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  • The hottest decade on record

    by Sunny
    9th December, 2009 at 5:56 am    

    So the Met Office, the US Government’s National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and NASA all say the noughties were the “hottest decade on record”. Apparently, according to some idiots, global warming isn’t happening and temperatures have actually fallen over the last decade.

    But even the Telegraph admits:

    Depending on what happens in the last three weeks of the year, [this year] could end up as the fourth, fifth or sixth hottest on record, but it will certainly be much warmer than 2008, which was anomalously low thanks to a cooling La Nina in the Pacific. And the jump between average temperatures in the 1990s and the current decade is one of the greatest ever.

    Temperatures only appear to have fallen if 1998 - an anomalously hot year - is taken as the starting point. Beginning, for example, with 1997 or 1999 gives a very different picture and independent statistical analysis has concluded that a cooling trend could only be determined by “people coming at the data with preconceived notions”.

    Pre-conceived notions? I wonder who that could be…. Global warming deniers = flat earthers. There’s no other way to put it really. These people aren’t just ignoring the blatant facts, they are actually twisting them to say the opposite.

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    1. kismethardy — on 9th December, 2009 at 12:17 am  

      I have news for you: we're all going to die anyway. I'm actually starting to hope your hysteria is well-founded after all and I hope we find out human life as we know it will end in my children's lifetime. How lovely it will be for them to be the first (and last) generation to spend an existence on this beautiful, powerful planet without getting chained to a desk and bleating on about paranoid bollocks, and actually enjoy this wonderful life we get to live.

      It's party time, kids.

    2. yodelmiester — on 9th December, 2009 at 1:04 am  

      On recrod?

      So, we are taking 150 years as the benchmark for our temperatures?

      Give over Sunny with your flat earther rubbish.

      The earth heats up and cools down in cycles far bigger than 10 years.

    3. cjcjc — on 9th December, 2009 at 1:21 am  

      Is this the kind of data which has been released?…

      Guess those “adjustments” are tilting our bet in your favour!

    4. cjcjc — on 9th December, 2009 at 2:07 am  

      Slowly but surely other - scientific - voices are making themselves heard.
      And from Cardifff, too.
      It's east versus west!…

    5. Yakoub — on 9th December, 2009 at 3:41 am  

      Let's hope and pray the smart apes win the day on this one. It's not going to be a very nice world — especially for those who are already poor and vulnerable — if the deniers manage to convince our rather too comfortable and greedy culture that nothing much really needs to be done.

    6. marvin — on 9th December, 2009 at 4:07 am  

      Few on the spectrum of sceptical, from slightly sceptical about the methods or the attitude of the Guardian style narrative actually state nothing needs to be done or that we have nil influence on the climate. Those that do are probably (but not necessarily) anti-science, and irrational. Even if one thinks AGW is unlikely or negligible, the benefits of looking after our environment are self-evident.

    7. Sunny H — on 9th December, 2009 at 6:55 am  

      So you're with the Saudis then I take it cjcjc?

    8. Sunny H — on 9th December, 2009 at 6:56 am  

      Marvin, apart from your obviously stupid comment that we have nil influence on the environment, it is definitely true that the “benefits of looking after our environment are self-evident.” - I'm glad you recognise that.

    9. cjcjc — on 9th December, 2009 at 8:35 am  

      With the Saudis? Hardly!

      Just an honest seeker after truth… :-)

      Any thoughts on the Darwin “adjustments”?

    10. cjcjc — on 9th December, 2009 at 9:42 am  

      You'll enjoy this one too - from a former IPCC lead reviewer.

      Good news, right? Right….????

    11. Binky — on 9th December, 2009 at 10:34 am  

      Writing from Saudi Arabia, I can confirm that the recent Jeddah flood featured the drowning of several polar bears.

      The Zionist Rent Boys of the Murdoch Press are concealing the truth from you all!

      Wake up England!

    12. douglas clark — on 9th December, 2009 at 3:07 pm  

      cjcjc, Would this be the same Nils Axel-Morner?

      You know, I think it could be….

    13. douglas clark — on 9th December, 2009 at 3:19 pm  


      See here too:

      Mörner has written a number of works claiming to provide theoretical support for dowsing. [2] He was elected “Deceiver of the year” by Föreningen Vetenskap och Folkbildning in 1995 for “organizing university courses about dowsing…”[2]. In 1997 James Randi asked him to claim The One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge, making a controlled experiment to prove that dowsing works.[12] Mörner declined the offer.[13]

    14. douglas clark — on 9th December, 2009 at 5:34 pm  

      Here is an interesting take on Mr Nils Axel-Morner:

      It tends to be a bit, err, abusive about 'the Australian' too….

    15. cjcjc — on 10th December, 2009 at 1:33 am  

      Any observations on his decades of sea level work at all?

      Or on the Darwin temp “adjustments”.

      And I know this will cement your view of me, but I won't hear a word against dowsing - having seen it in action!
      We needed to locate the run of a water pipe before digging out a new lake.
      Builder recommended a local dowser and he found it.
      The process was quite amazing.

    16. douglas clark — on 10th December, 2009 at 3:09 am  


      If you look at the Deltoid article, you'll see he appears to dismiss the most direct means of measuring sea level changes, i.e. directly. The body that he claims authority from, INQUA, have asked him repeatedly not to associate his opinions with them. You'd also see a graph that shows that sea levels actually are rising, based on satellite and tide gauges.

      Anyway, as an early Christmas present for you cjcjc, how would you like $50,000? If you recommend your friendly neighbourhood dowser for the Randi test and he or she passes it, not only will the dowser win a million bucks, you'll also get the aforesaid finders fee. Check it out!

    17. marvin — on 10th December, 2009 at 3:58 am  

      You've got the wrong end of the stick, the I am describing the spectrum, at the very end you have people who say that humans have nil effect on the environment and that we should do nothing (and that it's a scam perpetrated by the left). I am at the other end, I think AGW is likely and we definitely should look after our environment regardless, though I am not buying in to the 20ft waves in 30 years alarmism from Al Gore and I accept that it's possible that some of the theories about climate change maybe off the mark or even incorrect, something the true believers refuse to accept. And that they may still be a decent person if they believe so, not 'scumbags' as George Moonbat describes people who disagree or 'deniers' - equivalent to holocaust deniers.

    18. douglas clark — on 10th December, 2009 at 4:17 am  


      On Darwin:

    19. Sunny H — on 10th December, 2009 at 5:31 am  

      marvin I'll still call them scumbags and deniers even though it's good to see you're on the sane side of the argument.

      on the other hand it looks like cjcjc is with his ideological allies - the Saudis - by claiming to be some kind of a “truth seeker” while citing some dodgy 'evidence' by some dodgy people.
      But hey! Maybe the Met Office and NASA are wrong on those figures, along with most scientists, and our friend cjcjc knows better. He is, after all, a renowned figure on these issues and will owe me a grand in a few years time.

    20. cjcjc — on 10th December, 2009 at 6:23 am  

      Ahem…owe a charity of your choice a grand…

      I'll see if I can contact our dowser…the Randi site seems to list people who claim to dowse for gold, for the dead (?), and for numbers on the reverse of cards (??), but no-one who dowses for dull old water!

    21. douglas clark — on 10th December, 2009 at 6:46 am  

      cjcjc, Best of luck!


    22. riz — on 13th December, 2009 at 1:34 pm  

      the topic has been hijacked by dirty politicians who, by spouting an endless stream of hot air and various other gases and effluents, are definitely contributing to global warming. This much we know.

      imo, it is very difficult to form a clear, strong minded view based on the evidence, and the opportunity costs associated with global coordinated action are too considerable to be pushed to the side. Of course, the rooftops will never be occupied by people shouting 'What are we? … We are NOT SURE!'

    23. Soso — on 14th December, 2009 at 10:19 am  

      If the earth is warming, then why have the past few winters in Canada and Russia been so cold. Jesus! Bring your beach-wear to Edmonton! I mean it's already up to minus 50C and we're not yet even January! Apparently this warming is most acutely felt in the more northerly latitudes, and yet it is in those same latitudes that temperatures appear to be falling. For instance, it,s only been in the past ten years that I,ve seen flat out blizzards ( 45cm of snow) in April>/b>in Montréal. And I'm well passed 50 years of age.…

    24. paulrye — on 14th December, 2009 at 9:00 pm  

      Just noting you misread the poster, Marvin. He was saying “few of the skeptical are saying we have nil influence.”

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