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by Sunny on 14th May, 2006 at 12:37 am    

Whatever it is folks, get it off your chest. And no Rohin, I’m not referring to your t-shirt.

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  1. Jay Singh — on 14th May, 2006 at 12:47 am  

    Anyone seen/heard that Hassidic Jewish reggae singer called Matisyahu? Cool as hell to see a Hassidic guy doing reggae.

  2. Rohin — on 14th May, 2006 at 12:53 am  

    Yepski, I saw him perform in the States and I got his album. I like it - a few very good tracks. Got an obscene amount of music recently.

    Sunny don’t hate on my T-shirts dawg, I just got a great free one. It’s pure Angolan propaganda, with a portrait picture of Engo José Eduardo Dos Santos, Presidente da República de Angola. I’m wearing it now and I wear it with pride.

    Who saw the final? What a match.

  3. Jay Singh — on 14th May, 2006 at 12:55 am  

    What a match!! Fuckin’ unbelievable! What a goal by Gerrard in the 90th minute! Amazing. I like scousers.

  4. Rohin — on 14th May, 2006 at 12:57 am  

    Well, I was kind of neutral. But I have lots of Liverpool-supporting mates and I’m a Londoner, so I supported West Ham. Unlucky, but fantastic match for a neutral fan. Best I can remember. Roll on Wednesday.

  5. Jay Singh — on 14th May, 2006 at 12:59 am  

    Yeah - come on Arsenal!!!!

    Liverpool are the comeback kings.

  6. Sunny — on 14th May, 2006 at 12:59 am  

    Angolan propaganda? wtf! Why?

  7. Sunny — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:01 am  

    By the way, I changed the look of the comments entirely because of mirax’s complaints. I hope she bloody appreciates.
    What do you guys reckon? Better than before?

  8. Jay Singh — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:03 am  

    Much better Sunny

  9. Rohin — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:06 am  

    My Mum was given it at some Embassy shin dig this week. Here, I just posted this up. Cool or what? I’ll make this guy the new Ché.

  10. Sunny — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:07 am  

    Posted it where?
    cheers Jay.

  11. Rohin — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:07 am  

    Yes, comments are very nice now. I am convinced, I eat humble pie and so forth. I thought she meant the WHOLE background a different colour and I didn’t want that. I didn’t think ‘o’ this, good job son. I mean Sunny.

    Damn Amir.

  12. Jay Singh — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:09 am  

    He doesnt have the Che look Rohin he’s dressed in a suit and tie for gods sake. There must be cooler looking Angolan rebels than him.

  13. Rohin — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:15 am  

    That’s what makes this T-shirt such pure comedy. It’s got the flag on the back, which seems to be some commie hammer-sickle variant with a machete and half a gear. And a random suited African on the front.

    He’s also about 20 years older now. Hilarious. You feel like he’ll email you saying:

    Dear Mr. Sir,


    I am Dr. Bakare Tunde, the cousin of Nigerian Astronaut, Air Force Major Abacha Tunde. He was the first African in space when he made a secret flight to the Salyut 6 space station in 1979. He was on a later Soviet spaceflight, Soyuz T-16Z to the secret Soviet military space station Salyut 8T in 1989. He was stranded there in 1990 when the Soviet Union was dissolved. His other Soviet crew members returned to earth on the Soyuz T-16Z, but his place was taken up by return cargo. There have been occasional Progrez supply flights to keep him going since that time. He is in good humor, but wants to come home.

    In the 14-years since he has been on the station, he has accumulated flight pay and interest amounting to almost $ 15,000,000 American Dollars. This is held in a trust at the Lagos National Savings and Trust Association. If we can obtain access to this money, we can place a down payment with the Russian Space Authorities for a Soyuz return flight to bring him back to Earth. I am told this will cost $ 3,000,000 American Dollars. In order to access the his trust fund we need your assistance.

    I love 419.

  14. Jay Singh — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:18 am  

    Those Nigerian scammers are great. I’m going to e-mail them back next time, showing lots of concern.

    Here’s a story from the Sunday Times very worth getting on:

    THE Poles have arrived in Britain in such numbers that they now constitute the largest wave of immigration for at least 300 years, according to experts.

    The influx, estimated at more than 350,000 in the past two years, follows the European Union’s decision to allow Poland and other former Soviet bloc countries to join in 2004.

    Home Office figures show 204,895 Poles had signed up to work in Britain by the end of last year, but experts agree the true figure for those living here is likely to be far higher since many do not have to register.


  15. Sunny — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:18 am  

    These people are getting cleverer and more hilarious in their stories day by day.

  16. Jay Singh — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:18 am  

    Coleman believes the only comparable migration was that of French Protestants, known as Huguenots, after the revocation of the edict of Nantes in 1685 ended their right to practise their faith at home.

  17. Jay Singh — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:22 am  

    Here’s the most interesting bit:

    The number of Poles easily surpasses other post-war immigrant groups. “The Indians are getting on for a million, the Pakistanis several hundred thousand and the West Indians about 500,000. But that includes roughly half born in Britain and they arrived over much longer periods of time,” said Coleman.

  18. Rohin — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:24 am  

    I would say the actual number could be higher than 350,000 if 204,000 have registered. I think I quoted a stat a few months back, which said as of Feb, 94 Polish plumbers were registered in the UK. 94! In the whole country! There’s about that much in West London. Quite interesting Jay.

    The Huguenots were generally rich immigrants, they brought all their worldly possessions with them.

  19. Sunny — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:25 am  

    Another blog post worth reading is Mash’s takedown of the American govt’s wiretapping scandal.


    The American administration is hilarious.

  20. leon — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:39 am  

    *yawns* ‘Sup peeps?

  21. Sunny — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:40 am  

    I was sitting next to a bunch of Poles on the nightbus the other day, and they were all drinking heavily, and the big guy could not stop smiling and sayying hello to everyone.
    What I don’t get is, why the Polish plumber stereotype?

  22. raz — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:40 am  

    Sikh pervert gets busted on US TV. LOLZ :)


  23. Sunny — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:41 am  

    Leon - filling in application forms eh mate?

  24. leon — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:42 am  

    @raz, fucking hell, pendu alert!

  25. leon — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:43 am  

    @ Sunny, heh, nah taking a break for the weekend and just unable to sleep (insomnia the course of the news junkie…)…

  26. Rohin — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:43 am  

    Raz the funniest thing is the comments.

    He’s NOT ARAB - he’s SIKH!

    I say he should be executed.

    Saala kuta bhenchod.


  27. raz — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:44 am  

    Sunny, did you try any of those games i recommended you last week?

  28. leon — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:45 am  

    Games? *raises eyebrow and wakes up*

  29. raz — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:48 am  

    Rohin, this programme is funny stuff. Basically they go on the internet and pretend to be underage girls. These sickos chat them up and then arrange to meet them for sex. They then get busted in front of the tv audience, and then arrested for good measure afterwards. There’s a whole load of clips on youtube, including some real freaks!

  30. raz — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:48 am  

    VIDEO GAMES, leon, don’t get any funny ideas :)

  31. leon — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:53 am  

    @ raz, no its cool, wasn’t thinking anything dodgy! In fact I’m such a sad gamer (been into gaming in one form or another for over twenty years) that I just spent the alst hour watching the making of Halo 2! It was fecking cool!

    So, kof kof, anyway, what games, what system?:)

    On another note, Sunny what happened to the post preview thing?

  32. raz — on 14th May, 2006 at 2:00 am  

    Have you seen the Halo 3 teaser trailer from E3? It’s gonna be awesome. Sadly, an x360 is way out of my reach at the moment - let alone the HDTV you need to make the most of it :(

    I think we need a PP chatroom you know. Sunny? Please? :)

  33. leon — on 14th May, 2006 at 2:04 am  

    Yup, was watching it yesterday (spent the afternoon drooling over all the E3 coverage! Check out my blog for a very cool mock up of what a Light Sabre ala Wii could look like!).

    And yeah me either, 360 is beyond my means at the mo, will just have to lump it with my PC, Nintendo DS, Gamecube and Xbox…it’s a hard life…

    Lol! Yeah a chat room would be cool!:)

  34. Rohin — on 14th May, 2006 at 2:06 am  

    Vids of note I’ve seen on YouTube recently (and then I’m switching the computer off and going back to work. Back, ha):

    Ask a Ninja on Physics

    Nice editing

    Goodfellas redux

    Casino redux

  35. Sunny — on 14th May, 2006 at 2:08 am  

    Chatroom? Listen, this is a serious politics blog I’ll have you know. I don’t want it to be spoiled by your tendencies to link to fit Pakistani babes and dodgy Indian freshies looking for girls!

    Although I’m also heavily into gaming, I’ve been way tooo busy past year or so to play properly. In my spare time I read the news, how sad is that :(
    Like Leonn, news junkie galore.

  36. leon — on 14th May, 2006 at 2:12 am  

    Looks like we gotta organise a PP gaming night somewhere down the line.;)

  37. Bikhair — on 14th May, 2006 at 2:14 am  

    Jay Singh,

    I’ve heard of that guy Matisyahu and I think it is cool he doesnt shake has with women. One less guy I have to offend. I think those ultra orthodox jews would make good dhimms. They really do get us.

  38. leon — on 14th May, 2006 at 2:22 am  

    Heh heh check out the South Park meets Matrix Reloaded: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5EmCRa6dlc&search=south%20park

  39. Bikhair — on 14th May, 2006 at 2:27 am  


    I dont know what is up with Dateline but they have these shows every week. Next week, there will be another ethnic guy who, as soon as he walks in the house, will undress and run around the house with whip cream on his body searching for the little girl. Crazy.

    I saw that espisode with the Sikh guy. Lol… There was one guy on the other day who came looking for a little boy and had his very young son with him. I dont even want to think about why he brought his own son.

  40. raz — on 14th May, 2006 at 2:30 am  

    Some of the best from E3:

    Halo 3


    Lost Planet (sleeper hit of the year - you heard it here first!)


    Metal Gear Solid 4


    Gears of War


  41. Sunny — on 14th May, 2006 at 2:30 am  

    Leon - oh I wouldn’t mind… ;)

    Rohin - that is some serious damn editing going on. Sheesh… who has the time?

    Raz stop trying to get me back into gaming mate, otherwise I’ll have no time to write any articles. :|

  42. leon — on 14th May, 2006 at 2:55 am  

    Wow, this is very cool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCMJ0KjXP60&search=urban%2075

    Fans of Japanese animation and the UK band Muse will like.;)

    Sunny, heh well the summer is soon upon us, I reckon one lazy sunday can be found amongst it for a few beers and games.:)

  43. Vikrant — on 14th May, 2006 at 8:59 am  


    Didint we agree last month NOT to have footy talks on Weekend open threads? Or does only apply to me and El Cid?

    BTW the other day i was reading Currant Bun and saw this story of 11 year old gal getting pregnant…. Sheesh 11year old…chain smoker…. and pregnant!!! I have an inkling that i might be the second oldest virgin in the whole freakin South East… Sunny ofcourse being the oldest.

    Do you only play FPS crap? I’m sort of RPG ‘n RTS guy. Busy with World of Warcraft and AoE 3 atm. Btw did you know the only console our Rohin owns in N64!!!

  44. Tilling — on 14th May, 2006 at 9:08 am  

    I want to shag the man in the picture in the post about desi culture. What a fox!

  45. Vikrant — on 14th May, 2006 at 9:09 am  

    Ok are are you a gal or queer?

  46. Sakshi — on 14th May, 2006 at 9:44 am  


    How about checking this out!!

  47. Fisking Central — on 14th May, 2006 at 10:06 am  

    Why I hate Matisyahu by Johann Hari

    It’s not a joke. Matisyahu – the ultra-Orthodox rapping rabbi from New York City – is not Sasha Baron Cohen with a new character. He really is a dark-robed religious fanatic who won’t stage-dive because of fears he might accidentally touch a woman, and sings in a cod Jamaican accent about the need to “return to Zion”. (What next, an Amish version of Take That?). But when I see his posters splattered over London, I feel pin-pricks of rage. His songs might sound like pleasantly bland homilies, but in fact they are rallying calls for a particularly nasty, misogynistic and homophobic far-right strain of religious fanaticism. When he says repeatedly “rebuild the Temple,” anybody who has been to the Settlements in Israel/Palestine will know what he means – demolish the Muslim Dome of the Rock and rebuild the Third Temple. Calls for World War Three are not my idea of a sweet melody.

  48. Katy Newton — on 14th May, 2006 at 10:23 am  

    Jay - join the fine tradition of 419 scambaiting:


    I did. Hours, nay, days of fun guaranteed.

  49. Katy Newton — on 14th May, 2006 at 10:27 am  

    Oh and Sakshi - not just you. This plagiarism is becoming a bit of an epidemic in the blogosphere.

  50. raz — on 14th May, 2006 at 10:57 am  


    I like RPGs, although RTS is not really my thing. I’m playing Dragon Quest 8 at the moment.

  51. Sakshi — on 14th May, 2006 at 11:04 am  

    Katy - I agree, but this dude is a PRO. And he apparently writes his so-called original work…for MSM in India and overseas.

  52. Vikrant — on 14th May, 2006 at 11:21 am  

    I did. Hours, nay, days of fun guaranteed.

    Funny that you mention it…. 419scambaiting is a pure waste of time… i’d rather watch a porno movie.

  53. Rakhee — on 14th May, 2006 at 11:37 am  

    I’ve just woken up from an 11 hour sleep. Never slept so much in my life. What a week.

    Vikrant - 11yr old girl getting pregnant story hit the headlines the same day as the 29 yr old woman murdered on her doorstep in Wembley. Awful. I remember reading the papers that day and it was one hit after another for bad news.

    Am off to see Sonu Nigam and Abida Parveen at the Royal Albert Hall later. Love that place.

  54. Jay Singh — on 14th May, 2006 at 11:38 am  

    Sounds like a good concert Rakhee - post a review when you get home!

  55. Judy — on 14th May, 2006 at 12:12 pm  

    Sunny, since it was your comments on HP that got me curious about whether the googlebombing campaign to free Alaa, here’s the tribute link.

  56. reformist muslim — on 14th May, 2006 at 12:18 pm  

    ok, someone needs to write nomething defending the human rights act. blair wants attack dog reid to do something about it and dc has already said that he will repeal it (there goes my vote). this is something the lib dems should be good for, but then again maybe them supporting it will be counter-productive. where is kulvinder?

  57. sunray — on 14th May, 2006 at 12:21 pm  

    I didnt know Indian women were into space flight!

    Sunita Williams will be the second Indian astronaut after Kalpana Chawla. Sunita will form part of a three member crew for a six month long International Space Station expedition slated to begin this year. Sunita will travel to Expedition 14 on the space shuttle STA-116 and serve as flight engineer on the space station.


    sunny write an article if its not already done.

  58. El Cid — on 14th May, 2006 at 12:36 pm  

    Shame about the Hammers.
    I was supporting them too.
    Proper London team.
    Still, WHAT A GOAL BY SUPER G! He should be England Captain. Drop Lampard and Backham, only because Gerrard is better mind, and have Lennon on the left, Cole on the right, and Carrick in a defensive holding role.
    Maybe if we adopt a 4-5-1 we could bring Lamps or Beckham back in.
    Oh shit, I’m talking footy!
    I won’t mention anything else coming up then, not even the copius amounts of champagne I plan to drink on a certain train on Wednesday. Nope, that’s it. Finito.

  59. Rohin — on 14th May, 2006 at 12:42 pm  

    Sakshi, that sucks. You are one of the more well known bloggers in the Indian blogosphere, and the Indian MSM is infamous for plagiarism, so it was only a matter of time before you got ripped off. Sorry to say, but there doesn’t seem to be much you can do - apart from try to make more aware of this guy Amitav’s practices.

    Vikrant you seem to be in a rather irritable mood at the moment! But I’ve come to expect this from you now…I would want nothing else. Don’t go nice now. And actually I never owned an N64, I just used to play on my friend’s console. I don’t like consoles, they’re a waste of time. I’ve bought about 4 games in my life, all for PC (not including when I had an Amiga as a kid). My PC is a sparkling work of art, my geek money goes on that, not games or consoles which won’t do anything for me.

    Oh and Tilling, that chap you fancy is married!

  60. Vikrant — on 14th May, 2006 at 12:43 pm  

    Hah you only want Lampard out coz hes from Chelsea. This Wednesday i’ll be supporting Barcelona.

  61. Rohin — on 14th May, 2006 at 12:46 pm  

    Sunray she’s Indian American, as opposed to Indian. And she’s the second Indian American woman to go into space, as you say, after Kalpana Chawla who died aboard the Columbia.

  62. Rohin — on 14th May, 2006 at 12:48 pm  

    Vikrant - I really dislike people who do that. Arsenal’s a British club. How lame to support a club you have no connection to, simply out of jealousy. If it was Man U, I might understand.

    And yes, Stevie G for England captain. I have a terrible feeling this WC’s going to be a shambles. Or then again…perhaps the lack of expectation means they’ll perform well.

  63. Vikrant — on 14th May, 2006 at 12:55 pm  

    I really dislike people who do that.
    Couldnt care less.

    How lame to support a club you have no connection to, simply out of jealousy.

    I s’port Chelsea, is that connection enough?

    Vikrant you seem to be in a rather irritable mood at the moment!

    Sort of… was metally raped by my gf las’ night. One of these days i think i should follow your advice and dump her in Thames… the bitch.

  64. Katy Newton — on 14th May, 2006 at 12:56 pm  

    Sakshi - try http://www.plagiarismtoday.com; might be able to help with how to stop this bloke publishing your stuff. (Vikrant, if you’d rather watch a porno film I’ll understand.)

  65. Vikrant — on 14th May, 2006 at 12:56 pm  

    oopsie should read * mentally raped. *

  66. Katy Newton — on 14th May, 2006 at 12:57 pm  

    PS “metally raped by your girlfriend”? Ouch.

  67. raz — on 14th May, 2006 at 12:58 pm  

    “was metally raped”


    You’re a bit young for that sort of thing, Vik!

  68. Katy Newton — on 14th May, 2006 at 12:58 pm  

    Dammit you just got in there first.

  69. Vikrant — on 14th May, 2006 at 12:58 pm  


  70. El Cid — on 14th May, 2006 at 12:58 pm  

    Oops, is that a piece of my tongue that has just fallen into my lap?
    By the way, did anyone spot my delibefrate mistake? Yes, of course you did, I meant Lennon on the right and Cole on the left.

  71. Rohin — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:01 pm  

    What advice?! I didn’t tell you to dump her in the Thames! When you get arrested for murder, you ain’t pinning this on me!

    I’m not asking you to care about my opinion Vikrant. Tell me, when did you start supporting Chelsea?

  72. Vikrant — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:10 pm  

    Yes you did Rohin…


    Rohin — on 16th February, 2006 at 3:49 pm

    I had a blonde girlfriend once. Just once.

    Well she wasn’t my girlfriend, she just lived opposite me and never closed the curtains.

    I kid! Actually I was Vik’s age! If you’re copying my model Vik, you’ll dump her in the Thames and she won’t speak to you again. Don’t worry, it was a warm day.

    Anyway, I’m with Sunny, I’ve always found brunettes way hotter. Sorry, am I stereotyping?

    Btw i started supporting Chelsea by the time i realised Leicester City F.C was never gonna make it to premiership. That wuld be 2003.

  73. Vikrant — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:11 pm  

    If anybody from MI5/MI6/Scot Yard/AOWLFT is reading this… i was obviously joking.

  74. Katy Newton — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:12 pm  

    Oh Rohin. The Thames is probably awash with ex girlfriends of PP readers by now and it’s all your fault.

  75. Jay Singh — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:13 pm  

    I agree - Steven Gerrard should be England captain - as captain he has lifted the European Cup and FA Cup and on a weekly basis and in crunch high pressure games inspired and raised the team like no other player out there. Make Gerrard captain of England.

  76. Vikrant — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:22 pm  

    So there alteast some thing we both agree on Jay…

  77. El Cid — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:22 pm  

    Btw i started supporting Chelsea by the time i realised Leicester City F.C was never gonna make it to premiership. That wuld be 2003.
    What a joke.
    I had a friend when I was 8 — D.Ahmed — who switched to Man U just because the Arse were going through a bad patch. I still haven’t forgiven him. How could I take him seriously ever again?
    The answer was I couldn’t.
    Anyway, I’m off to a social family engagement.

  78. Rohin — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:25 pm  

    Hey, watch your mouth Katy or you might be sleepin weeth the feeshes.

    I’ve been in the Thames many times. I was a sea cadet and I also tried a bit of rowing in school. It’s so unbelievably foul. I just gagged whilst typing this as I remembered swallowing lots and then seeing a condom next to my face.

    I feel sick.

    Hang on, Leicester went up in 2003 and then you abandoned them because they got relegated in 2004? So you ARE a glory supporter Vikrant, just as I suspected ;)

  79. Vikrant — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:25 pm  

    Well that doesnt mean i dont support Leicester City…

  80. Jay Singh — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:26 pm  

    The man with multiple identities has to support multiple football teams!

  81. Rohin — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:28 pm  

    So you have a division 1 team and a premiership team? And you just so happened to choose a team that finished second?

    El Cid. I hate D. Ahmed and I’ve never met him. My posh school was full of those people. Fair weather supporters. Suddenly take an interest in football, who shall I support? Oh Man U! Arsenal! Remember that character in the Fast Show? Them to a T. “Up the Arsenal! Who wants some champers?”

  82. Jay Singh — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:28 pm  

    That condom image is gross Rohin - I’m surprised you didnt catch a disease.

    What we need is a shark getting lost and swimming up the Thames, not some whale. Whales are pussies. We need a motherfukkin’ great white shark getting lost and eating some people now that would be a news story.

  83. Vikrant — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:28 pm  

    Owwie this is turning into yet another Vikrant-gang-rape .

  84. Vikrant — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:31 pm  

    And you just so happened to choose a team that finished second?

    Had no choice…. i live in a stupid Surrey village not London.

  85. Rohin — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:32 pm  

    “I’m surprised you didnt catch a disease”

    Well, I used to be six foot tall and white. Just look at me now.

    One of the medical students I worked with in SAfrica got eaten by a shark. He wasn’t even in the water, it jumped out and ate him. Apparently the only place where they jump to grab prey.

    Vikrant, we shall desist. All I ask is that you put your hatred of Arsenal (which is understandable) aside and support the British club, not the Spanish bastards who don’t like you. They don’t want your support. Down the pub or in uni, the guys who support the European team because they hate the British club playing are always the dicks. Don’t be a dick, you’re not one.

  86. Vikrant — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:33 pm  

    Oksie… i’ll be neutral.

  87. Rohin — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:38 pm  

    Good enough :)

  88. Katy Newton — on 14th May, 2006 at 1:38 pm  

    Sleeping with the condoms, more like. Ugh. I used to go canoeing on the Welsh Harp reservoir and that was bad enough.

  89. Sunny — on 14th May, 2006 at 2:50 pm  

    The Thames is probably awash with ex girlfriends of PP readers

    See, this is why I saw its important to still have love for your ex-girlfriends! Unless they stalked you and tried to kill you. In which case an odd hello will do.

    Reformist - to be honest I have read about it a little here and there but don’t know much about it. I expect the people at The Sharpener will be writing something about it soon… any good places to read up on what’s going on?

    Hey Sakshi - that is annoying, but if its any consolation we’ve all been there. In fact I’ve had people lift whole paras from my work for the Indian MSM and not even get a mention :(

    Judy - cool, will have a look now! Though for somereason your blog is not loading up…

  90. Sunny — on 14th May, 2006 at 2:56 pm  

    FiskingCentral - Where can I read that Hari article btw? Judy - got to your blog, am writing a reply now…

  91. squared — on 14th May, 2006 at 3:08 pm  

    I was going to say this in the other thread but felt it would be inappropriate. So I’ll say it here.

    Gautam Malkani is a bit of alright. Num num.

  92. sonia — on 14th May, 2006 at 3:33 pm  

    just back from the Mela in brick lane. heaving and colourful!

  93. Katy Newton — on 14th May, 2006 at 3:40 pm  

    Hey, my blog has been banned by the Pakistani government! Perhaps they are bored with my internet dating?

  94. Rohin — on 14th May, 2006 at 3:41 pm  

    Sunny that’s the whole article: http://www.johannhari.com/archive/article.php?id=870

    And I’m going to put my foot down, having crazy hate-filled exes makes life more interesting. I’ve had girls do all kinds of weird things to mess me up, I’ve never thought it’s anything but amusing. And you can tell funny stories later on. One who really hated me (and maybe still does) I barely even went out with, so I figured dumping her via MSN Messenger’s predecessor was all right. She worked two floors above me, but I said:
    “look I really can’t be bothered to climb the stairs”
    “but there are four lifts”
    “I know but that’s like, thirty metres away”
    You know…all the psycho ones have been Asian. Hmm…

  95. Rohin — on 14th May, 2006 at 4:03 pm  

    Did you take any pics sonia? I’d like to see some of all the festivities at the moment. All my friends are heading down that way tonight and I’m stuck at home in my pyjamas.

  96. Sunny — on 14th May, 2006 at 4:05 pm  

    You know…all the psycho ones have been Asian. Hmm…

    Don’t be hating on the Asian women brother. Admittedly they are more psycho and prone to try to homicide straight after wondering why you ended a loving relationship - but then I’ve stopped trying to figure them out. There’s an element of dangerous living there that cannot be replicated.

    Katy - that was a while back unfortunately, they blocked all blogspot blogs.

    squared stop being such a groupie :p

    sonia - any pictures??

  97. Amir — on 14th May, 2006 at 4:13 pm  

    Without my daily dose of the ‘Paramount Comedy Channel’ and Rohin’s ‘Regular Outburst Channel’, there would be seldom anything to laugh about in life! Again: thank you.

    I’ve been in the Thames many times.

    Okay, this sounds interesting in a Silent Witness-Tess Gerittsen kinda’ way.

    I was a sea cadet and I also tried a bit of rowing in school.

    Having been mocked by your dear self ad nauseam for my pretentious lexicon… [those witticisms of yours acquire a certain patina after a while! :-) ] am I correct in assuming that the streetwise Rohin is a public-school boy? And with everything that this entails – chess clubs, skimmy dipping, naked showers, strip poker, carravanting in the local woodland [naked] with your school-chums Rupert Rupertwill and Wilbur Smithsonian III? Naked rugby games, tea-bagging, ‘cock-off’s’ near the urinals, circle jerks, expensive sports that no working-class person could ever afford (i.e. polo), reminiscing about the good ‘old days’ in ya’ blue blazers, and willy nilly awards at the Annual Summer Ball? Rohin, ma’ bruv – I didn’t know u waz so hardcore! Hardcore, you knows za score bruthva. But wait, but wait… you did a bit of rowing? Okay, fair enough – it’s a very demanding sport, both physically and mentally. But wait, but wait… YOU WERE ALSO A SEA CADET! A ‘sea cadet’! AAAAAAAAAAhhhhhhhhhhhhhahahahahahahahahahaha!!! Awesome. Fuckin awesome! I can just imagine you, in ya’ little blue uniform and beret. How cute!

    It’s so unbelievably foul. I just gagged whilst typing this as I remembered swallowing lots and then seeing a condom next to my face.

    Was this your initiation, then?

    [You’ve made my day, son]

  98. Jay Singh — on 14th May, 2006 at 4:15 pm  

    Just watched the trailers for X Men 3 and Superman - Superman looks a bit gay, X Men 3 looks wicked.

  99. Fisking Central — on 14th May, 2006 at 4:19 pm  

    Cheers for finding the link Rohin. Hari has written about it in a couple of different places, and I think he was on Newsnight Review talking about it as well recently (if I remember right).

  100. Jay Singh — on 14th May, 2006 at 4:20 pm  

    Seven minute preview of X Men 3 here:


    The actor playing the blue hairy werewolf in a suit ‘Minister for Mutant Affairs’ is the guy who plays Frasier.

  101. squared — on 14th May, 2006 at 4:44 pm  


    Pictures of pretty boys helps the exam pain. MORE SUNNY, MORE!

    If I must partake in intelligent conversation (using my already dying brain), I shall give you another reason to hate Blair:


    Get angry sunny, GET ANGRY. He wants the ameeenals to die. :(

  102. Jay Singh — on 14th May, 2006 at 5:01 pm  

    He doesnt want animals to die squared - he just doesnt want psycho mad people digging up the dead bodies of old people and making death threats to scientists and their families - good on Tony Blair!

  103. Katy Newton — on 14th May, 2006 at 5:33 pm  

    Oh. So nothing to do with my incisive political commentary then.


  104. Rohin — on 14th May, 2006 at 5:49 pm  

    Of course I’m a public school boy (and not just ANY public school I’ll have you know). I’ve written about it here before. I’m fucking posh and I don’t want anyone forgetting it. I did all of the things you listed Amir, ALL. But do you actually know what a sea cadet is? It’s not scouts, which is what you seem to be thinking of.

    I’m with Tony Blair on this squared. Another thing I think Sunny and I will disagree on!

    ‘The guy who plays Frasier’, ‘blue hairy werewolf in a suit’. Oh Jay, oh Jay Jay Jay, you disappoint me. The legend that is Kelsey Grammer is BEAST (aka Dr Hank McCoy). Also in it is Vinnie Jones as Juggernaut, Shohreh Agdashdaloo playing Dr. Kavita Rao (aw, why couldn’t they find an Indian actress?) and new characters are Shadowcat, Angel, Colossus, Multiple Man, Psylock…I can’t remember any more off hand.

  105. John Browne — on 14th May, 2006 at 5:55 pm  

    About 10 years ago I was living in Wimbledon. I noted whenever I discussed politics with asian people (they were all muslim) they were all in favour of the EU whereas the middle class native people I associated with in the area where mainly anti-EU.

    My questions are:
    1) Was my sample too biased to be meaningful (eg muslims only)?
    2) However, even if it was small, was it, nevertheless, correct?
    3) Is it still true? Are asian britians still very pro-EU?

    Owning up to my own views.
    I am tending towards being anti-EU as the history of democracy in Europe has not been particularly good. I’d like to keep some distance. On the other hand I can see that the Roman Empire (treaty of Rome) retaking Constantinople after 600 years might be quite a cool event (perhaps it would even extend to cover Iraq and Israel).But I still favour a small democratic state then a large non-democratic state.


  106. Amir — on 14th May, 2006 at 6:03 pm  

    I’ve just seen a picture of your face Mr. Francis, and can I just say [in a non-gay way] that you’re cuter than a baby seal or even a gummi bear. Remember the theme tune?

    Gummi Bears lyrics”
    They’re Dashing and daring,
    Courageous and caring,
    Faithful and friendly,
    With stories to share.
    They march through the forest,
    They sing out in chorus,
    Marching along as their song fills the air.

    Gummi bears, bouncing here and there everywhere.
    High adventure that’s beyond compare.
    they are the gummi bears.

    Well, magic and mystery are part off their history.
    along with the secret off gummi bear juice
    Their legend is growing, they take pride in knowing,
    They’ll they’ll do what is right in whatever they do.


    And do you know what’s really, really, scary? You have no idea (a)who I am, (b)what I look like, or (c)how obedient I am to the law!

  107. Sunny — on 14th May, 2006 at 6:10 pm  

    Tony Blair can **** my **** [grabs crotch aggressively] for his views on animal rights.
    For now that is all I have to say on the matter.

  108. Joolz — on 14th May, 2006 at 6:11 pm  

    Old ladies in their graves have rights too!

    So do the children being targeted by animal rights terrorists!

  109. Rohin — on 14th May, 2006 at 6:21 pm  

    Amir, sometimes you’re all right. Then you go all gay.

  110. Sunny — on 14th May, 2006 at 6:40 pm  

    Who says old ladies in graves don’t have rights? And who says I support children being targeted by these nutters? But this word ‘terrorist’ is being bandied about lamely. Has anyone blown up people for supporting animal vivisections? I think not.

    And saying that if I support animal rights means I support the ALF is also a huge leap in some bizarre logic.

    Katy - much is your shenanigans with chocolate fountains are hilarious, I doubt they will bring down the Pakistani administration. Though stranger things have happened.

  111. Rohin — on 14th May, 2006 at 6:46 pm  

    Of course you don’t support ALF. But terrorists is quite appropriate. The word has nothing to do with blowing people up, it’s to do with causing terror. And these ‘activists’ do exactly that, they make people’s lives living hells as they live in terror.

  112. Katy Newton — on 14th May, 2006 at 6:48 pm  

    That was no mere chocolate fountain. That was an Orwellian, metaphorical sort of chocolate fountain.

    On a serious note, people connected with animal vivisection definitely have been blown up, or at least attempts have been made to do so.

  113. Amir — on 14th May, 2006 at 6:52 pm  


    Tony Blair can **** my ****

    Well, his eyesight ain’t that good bro! Tony Blair needs pin-point accuracy to execute d’at operation! Dya’ get me? 8)

  114. squared — on 14th May, 2006 at 6:58 pm  

    Heh Jay, I agree with him. *Pro animal-testing*

    I just wanted to piss off sunny for the day. :)

    And PETA are EVIL, sunny. EVIL.

  115. Amir — on 14th May, 2006 at 6:59 pm  

    Seaman Francis,

    Amir, sometimes you’re all right. Then you go all gay.

    Cheers big ears! If I get any more effeminate, will you let me reminisce with you and ya’ sea buddies about the good old times on Clappham Common with ya ‘tea-bagging’ competitions? :-)

  116. squared — on 14th May, 2006 at 7:02 pm  

    Tony Blair needs pin-point accuracy to execute d’at operation! Dya’ get me? 8)


  117. Sunny — on 14th May, 2006 at 7:08 pm  

    Hehe, I’m not pissed actually. I’m happy in the knowledge that any campaign Tony Blair puts his name to these days instantly starts going down the pan.

    My definition of a terrorist involves mass-murder. Just terrorising someone can be filed under illegal harassment. If your ex-gf starts stalking you and threatening you, is it logical to call her a terrorist and then try and get her locked up for 30 years?

  118. Katy Newton — on 14th May, 2006 at 7:11 pm  

    I tend to think of a terrorist as someone who targets a random member of the public (or more) for death or serious harm in order to draw attention to a political issue.

  119. Katy Newton — on 14th May, 2006 at 7:12 pm  

    - because if mass murder becomes

  120. Katy Newton — on 14th May, 2006 at 7:13 pm  


    Because if mass murder becomes a requirement then you get into a farcical “how many murders does it take to be a mass murderer” discussion. I think that what differentiates terrorism from general criminal behaviour is that it is impersonal.

  121. Joolz — on 14th May, 2006 at 7:19 pm  

    Animal Rights Terrorists


  122. El Cid — on 14th May, 2006 at 8:09 pm  

    Oi oi OI!!!!
    What’s with the “Spanish bastards” Rohin?
    Watch it Sinbad — 2 can play at that game.
    (I assume you were trying to be funny. So am I).

  123. El Cid — on 14th May, 2006 at 8:11 pm  

    You forgot the biscuit game — public school boys love the biscuit game.

  124. Amir — on 14th May, 2006 at 8:20 pm  

    Please, please… tell me! What’s the biscuit game?

  125. squared — on 14th May, 2006 at 8:20 pm  

    HAHAHA… Soggy biscuit?

  126. squared — on 14th May, 2006 at 8:23 pm  

    And since when did you have to target mass populations to be a terrorist?

    Some activists just go too far… My mate’s dad’s a geneticist, working with GM foods and all that playing with God malarkey.

    He had a car bomb put in his car just for his line of work. :|

    If that’s not terrorism, I dunno what is… Groups like PETA are pretty much in the same page.

  127. El Cid — on 14th May, 2006 at 8:26 pm  

    I’m not sure I can; there are testosterone-heavy and confused teenagers present who might get a little too excited. It’s a rather yucky and very rugger bugger activity, as its alias ’soggy biscuit’ suggests. Maybe a Google search might tell you all you need to know.

  128. Amir — on 14th May, 2006 at 8:34 pm  


    Rohin, you naughty boy! There’s stuff here that Rakhee wouldn’t even do for me… and that’s saying quite a bit.

  129. Sakshi — on 14th May, 2006 at 8:38 pm  

    Katy - Thanks

    Rohin - You make me *blush*, “well-known blogger”. Hai! Thanks.

    Sunny - Yup…I know..nothing in our hands. Wish I cud personally *kick* him, where it hurts the most.

  130. Amir — on 14th May, 2006 at 8:59 pm  

    Sexy Sakshi,

    Wish I cud personally *kick* him, where it hurts the most.

    If you’re referring to me, then, well, let me tell ya this sis: it’s a very easy target (eazzyy)!! If it’s Sunny, however, d’hen prepare to wear ya pin-point Adidas boots with heat-seeking technology… cos it ain’t going to be dat easy (eazzzy!).

    Great blog, but,…errmm, could I ask you just one question?
    You see: I can’t tell with Indian girls…

    Who’s who in the photograph? :-)


  131. El Cid — on 14th May, 2006 at 9:04 pm  

    That’s a bit mean Amir. Bad play

  132. Amir — on 14th May, 2006 at 9:06 pm  

    I was only joking! I love Indian girls - I was, well, engaged to one a few years ago. :-)

  133. Amir — on 14th May, 2006 at 9:07 pm  

    It’s a good blog. I like it. Good resource for animal rights, vegetarianism, etc.

  134. Jay Singh — on 14th May, 2006 at 9:08 pm  

    Amir you think you’re really outrageous and cutting edge with your lines - I suppose you reckon you are ‘provocative’ and ‘dangerous’ - but the truth is yo’re just obnoxious and a bit of a twat. As well as pompous and witless - you commit the worst, foulest and most unforgivable sin of not being funny, and compound it all by seeming to think you are - and that’s just embarassing. I’m embarassed for you.

  135. Amir — on 14th May, 2006 at 9:19 pm  

    I’m sorry. I didn’t mean to cause any offence. I was only having a bit of fun… sorry if it went over the top.

    I’m not a bad guy

    And I’m not trying to be ‘provocative’ or ‘witty’ or ‘whatever’. It’s just dumb-ass humour… I like it when people give the abuse back (but not ‘real’ abuse obviously)
    Whoa, sorry.

    Rohin – I don’t have anything against people from public schools.
    Sunny – big fan. My piss-taking is a sign of affection. Sorry.
    Sakshi – you’re really *hot*. I live with so many Indian guys - we have a funny, supremacist attitude to each other!

    But anyway…good look with the blog and everything.
    Peace. Xxx
    [It was good while it lasted]

  136. Jay Singh — on 14th May, 2006 at 9:22 pm  

    Amir - you need to just calm down. You make good contributions when you talk sensibly but the thing about Shaskhi was out of order. And you get carried away. Just cool it and be sensible and nobody will mind you being around and I’m sure you’ll make more of your good contributions.

  137. Ravi4 — on 14th May, 2006 at 10:18 pm  

    Whoa, things seem to have got a bit heated here. Amir really went a bit too far with his banter there, but doesn’t look like he meant any harm. Hope he keeps contributing.

    Sunny, Rohin – are you guys on the new look PP going to do a story about Sri Lanka anytime soon? The situation there seems to be going from bad to worse (news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4768329.stm). And there’s a discussion to be had about whether Sri Lankan origin Tamil people living here (& in Canada, Australia) can make a more effective contribution to resolving the situation. I was going to go on at great length about this, but I’m guessing it’s all too much (and far too late) for a weekend open thread. I hope there’s interest in talking about it.

    By the way, did I spot some of the PP pages displaying a picture of Prince Naseem? What a sad story his turned out to be. (Even if he was a bit irritating in his heyday.)

  138. raz — on 14th May, 2006 at 10:20 pm  

    There is something very fishy about this ‘Amir’ character, in my opinion.

  139. Rohin — on 14th May, 2006 at 10:34 pm  

    Amir, no need to run off. But you just started being a bit of a dick, to put it succinctly. We’ve all praised some of the things you’ve said on here, but it’s just when you try your hand at humour it all comes unstuck. Some people are just not funny. I haven’t taken any offence and your line about Sakshi wasn’t nice because you don’t know her. The things you’ve been saying to her, me, whoever are the kinds of things you say to friends, not random acquaintances.

    Ravi I’ve been trying to keep tabs on what’s happening in SL, but as you’ve probably gathered I’m a bit busy w/ exams. Hence we’ll repeat the call we made a few weeks back for those in the know to submit a piece because I don’t want to rush it and do a ham-fisted job. However Prince Naseem doesn’t really seem like much of a story. Some fat git drives like a plonker and gets locked up!

    El Cid, many sincere apologies for the bastards line! My bad. It’s just the behaviour Vikrant was exhibiting boils my blood so I was using emotive language! btw, I was reading all about El Cid this weekend, after I read a piece comparing him to Wayne Rooney. Haw haw haw!

    (I’m still laughing at Jay’s “you think you’re ‘dangerous’” Great choice of words. And the inverted commas only make it funnier. You’ve redeemed yourself for the X-Men lapse, SON.)

  140. Amir — on 14th May, 2006 at 11:30 pm  

    I had a bad day. I have to put food on my table. And money doesn’t grow on trees. Not everyone has a rich family or even a family at all. Not everyone lives in the ‘right’ area or knows the ‘right’ people or comes from the ‘right’ background. Internet and politics is just escapism for me. I don’t give a shit about the policies of Tony Blair or the politics of multiculturalism if I can’t pay the rent or have at least one meal a day. I read [copiously] to relax and to meditate. And I share it with people on a blog. Nuff said. I fool about and act like a twat when I’m stressed out or ‘deep financial trouble’. Don’t take it personally (although I don’t blame you, if you do.)

    And anyway, who says that acting like a ‘twat’ isn’t a sign of affection? For some guys (and, yes, it’s a curse), they act real stupid in front of people whom they find attractive or admirable in some special way. I never ever, for instance, say anything complimentary to a cute girl,… the opposite is usually the case. And I hate it. Don’t ask me why? It just happens.

    But on a computer screen, of course, it looks different. People superimpose their own ‘tone of voice’ and their own schemas onto the voices of other bloggers and contributors. Txt messages and emails have the same pitfall. If Jacques Derrida were alive, he’d agree.

    I’m just, well, misunderstood. And yes Rohin, I was/am acting like a dick. No doubt about it. But listen, you and your ilk in London have it easy – don’t forget that. It always makes me laugh when some Asians refer to themselves as ‘progressive’ or ‘left-wing’. In reality, only people with enough dough in the bank and enough clothes in their trunk can ‘afford’ to be progressive (Kant said exactly the same thing in his day). Not everyone gets the opportunity to pursue their own interests in life. And the idea that we live in a ‘meritocracy’ is just, well, bullshit.

    Anyways, good luck with the PP blog. Just bear in mind… the real ‘progressives’ don’t live in ivory towers. For your own sakes: always be open to criticism and always be open to openness itself. And stop this Pickled Politics ‘gang mentality’ when a contributor doesn’t tug the party line. It’s fucking pathetic. Yeah, and dat includes you, too, Jay Singh.

    Mr. Singh. If you knew how hard I worked (just to keep myself afloat) and knowing - in the process - that there’s no light at the end of the tunnel, you’d have a bit more fucking respect.

    I’m going back to work 2morrorow (I’ve been physically incapable for the last two weeks or so). 13-hour shift: no blogging. Just dreaming. But I’ll make it…

    eventually :-)

    Au revoir

  141. Jay Singh — on 14th May, 2006 at 11:36 pm  

    What a performance.

    *round of applause*

  142. Sunny — on 14th May, 2006 at 11:39 pm  

    Hey, no offence taken… I have a pretty thick skin when it comes to insults on the web. Jay I don’ think there was a need to come down on the brother so hard.

    Anyway, it’s a bloody politics blog. Let’s try and stick to politics talk during the week and weather/football/plagiarism/chocolate fountains on the weekend. End of story.

    Ravi - got your email mate, cheers. Kesara has actually written something on the SL situation and I’ll try and edit it and post it up tonight/tomorrow if I can.

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