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    Pakistan beats Sri Lanka in Twenty20 final

    by Sunny on 21st June, 2009 at 5:37 pm    

    As I just said on Twitter, thank fuck for some good news for Pakistan. Well done to the players. This is probably one of the few times I’d support Pakistan over Sri Lanka in Cricket. Heh.

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    1. zak — on 21st June, 2009 at 8:28 pm  

      “Pakistan? Turmoil in its national politics, turmoil in its cricket politics; no chance to prepare properly, no players in the IPL; a captain who didn’t seem to care early in the tournament, no domestic cricket structure worthy of the name. If they didn’t have talent, they’d have nothing. Of course, they do have talent, and so - sod Moneyball - they have everything.” —Gary Naylor:

    2. Sofi — on 21st June, 2009 at 9:30 pm  

      it was desperately needed and well deserved. i imagine its the first time in quite a while that pakistanis IN pakistan have something to celebrate.

      thank you sunny for your support; you never let me down :P

    3. platinum786 — on 22nd June, 2009 at 8:07 am  

      The important question is, did British Pakistani’s block the streets in your area celebrating? We certainly did here!

      Finally some of the massive potential that is Pakistan has materialised. I couldn’t be happier!

    4. justforfun — on 22nd June, 2009 at 10:48 am  

      Congratulations to the Pakistani team - they play well.

      The Sri Lankans also played well and after their initial batting collapse it took alot of inner strength to come back and post a total that Pakistan would have to chase and their bowlers stood a chance of defending and they made it a closer match than the final scorecard would suggest. Without out this the final would have been a whimper.

      Younus deserves his retirement from 20/20


    5. justforfun — on 22nd June, 2009 at 10:50 am  

      argh - Sunny - you’ve changed the “edit” again!!

      “- played well”

    6. chavscum — on 22nd June, 2009 at 11:37 am  

      Norman Tebbit would have noticed how the Indian and Sri Lankan supporters appeared to be from their respective countries. Yet, the Pakistani supporters appeared to be 2nd/3rd generation Britons.

      Is this an indication of the integration differences amongst South Asian immigrants? For example, Indians tend to be far more integrated and consequently, more successful than Pakistanis.

    7. Rumbold — on 22nd June, 2009 at 11:49 am  


      How do you know which supporters were from South Asia and which ones were born in britain?

    8. platinum786 — on 22nd June, 2009 at 12:22 pm  

      Chavscum, that’s pretty inaccurate.

      Firstly loads of of British born Indians supported India.

      Secondly assuming for a minute you where right, perhaps it has something to do with;

      1. The Sri Lankan community has not migrated to Britain in the 5o’s in the same numbers, Indians/Pakistani’s have.

      2. India does not allow you to hold dual nationality apparently, whereas Pakistani’s can be both Pakistani and British passport holders, hence making it easier for people to associate with Pakistan as a citizen of Pakistan.

    9. munir — on 22nd June, 2009 at 12:36 pm  

      “Norman Tebbit would have noticed how the Indian and Sri Lankan supporters appeared to be from their respective countries. Yet, the Pakistani supporters appeared to be 2nd/3rd generation Britons.”

      The fact that something annoyed Norman Tebbit is surely an even greater reason to celebrate than the cricket win

    10. Adnan — on 22nd June, 2009 at 1:19 pm  

      Seeing as chavscum @7 brought this up - Tebbit, on yer bike!

      In cricket I primarily support Pakistan. This is because of my Pakistani family background and the Pakistani team’s cricketing style.

      When I first became interested in cricket, I loved watching the Windies teams of the 70s and 80s beating England. The reasons for this are the way the Windies and Pakistan play the game (who doesn’t like seeing teams such as Argentina, Spain, Brazil, France ?) - Viv Richards’ flair against Chris Tavare’s blocking, the two Ws bowling for Pakistan - and because of the superior attitude of English and Australian commentators and cricketers when teams like the Windies and Pakistan beat them.

      OTOH, I’ve always supported England in football, but hated it when people needed to question Laurie Cunningham’s inclusion for England when teams such as France has multi-racial teams.

      I only started supporting the England cricket team since the mid-late nineties when they were led by Atherton (whose of a similar age to me). I don’t see why kids born here can’t support England in cricket, but I don’t see why they can’t support any other team either (a bit like the Man U or Liverpool fans from all over the country). People have many different reasons for supporting a person or team: it would be nice if Murray wins at Wimbledon, but I would much rather Federer won.

      The best two teams (for T20) were in the final and the best team overall did win. The England women’s team should be congratulated also - awesome record!

    11. chavscum — on 22nd June, 2009 at 1:41 pm  

      It was evident to anyone who attended any of the matches. No doubt many British born Indians supported India, but it was mostly Indian accents of Indians living or studying over here. Whereas, the Pakistan support was mostly regional English accents and I doubt whether people from Pakistan prefer to dress and act like Ali G. Your right that Sri Lankan immigration is more recent.

      There was virtually no support from the West Indies, which probably reflects the changing cultural preferences of the region and the integration of migrants from the Carribean. Then again they are the least successful of all long-term immigrants.

      Also, why do British born Chinese show little interest in supporting China patriotically?

    12. chavscum — on 22nd June, 2009 at 2:05 pm  


      I have to take issue with your description of cricket commentators. I have always found them fair and appreciative of good cricket. They used to always have a commentator from the opposition to give balance. Indeed, they were often overly critical of England because they expected better. In contrast, football commentary, especially from the BBC, is terrible.

      Looks like you only want to support a winning team. The worst kind of fair-weather supporter.

      I don’t remember questioning Laurie Cunningham. I suspect those that did weren’t convinced of his ability. John Barnes would sometimes get booed at Wembley because he was crap in too many appearances and the punters couldn’t understand why he would play brilliantly for Liverpool and then hug the touchline all game for England.

    13. Adnan — on 22nd June, 2009 at 2:31 pm  


      I agree that commentators are very good now. Also, the ball tampering debates or criticism of the Windies short-pitched bowling as being somehow unsporting. Wisden even published an

      “Looks like you only want to support a winning team. The worst kind of fair-weather supporter.”

      Well, I wouldn’t be support Pakistan if that were my attitude :)

      I’m afraid I do remember questioning about Laurie’s inclusion specifically on race grounds by schoolmates.

    14. platinum786 — on 22nd June, 2009 at 2:31 pm  

      Yo, we all know some comentators, still can’t stand that certain teams in Cricket beat other teams, look at doping charges, all the Asian guys get it to the letter of the law, Murali and shoaib have had careers threatened by people moaning about their actions, whereas shane warne claims he wasn’t taking steds, he had taken pain killers given to him by his gran…lol

      There is an old boys club…

    15. munir — on 22nd June, 2009 at 2:34 pm  

      “Also, why do British born Chinese show little interest in supporting China patriotically?”

      maybe because they are predominantly from Hong Kong not the mainland and strongly dislike the Communist regime?

    16. chavscum — on 22nd June, 2009 at 3:29 pm  

      Most people in HK are 1st/2nd/3rd generation migrants from mainland China. 100yrs ago it was a backwater with a few vilages.

      Do British born Pakistanis support the dictatorships of post independence?


    17. platinum786 — on 23rd June, 2009 at 11:07 am  

      ^^^ there is the fundemental problem. In Pakistan military rule is not really dictatorship. With democracy we get the same personal freedoms, nobody limits then with military rule. For the vast majority of people it’s a more efficient manner of running a country than our democratic system, until (and this happens with every single one), they try to legitimise their rule by getting involved in politics and then things go downhill.

      Funnily enough in Pakistan the greatest Media boom happened under a military dictator, Pervez Musharraf.

      Having said that support swings from pole to pole. Ideally everyone wants accountable government, however the democratic system is not accountable, it’s simply elected government, which makes it, choose your own dictator, rather than just getting one.

      Because of that, when democratic government has made things worse, and the military comes in, the military becomes popular, then when they fail to deliver on promises, years later, they become unpopular and the same buffoons who were elected 10 years ago and wrecked the country, become messiahs.

      So as you can see, Pakistan is not going to work in your example, choose somewhere else.

    18. munir — on 23rd June, 2009 at 11:59 am  

      platinum786 is right- the democrats in Pakistan are just the same people from a few families who use their time in office to loot the country

      Many pakistanis prefer military rule since at least the military isnt as corrupt and has some sembelenace of being for the country rather than just their family bank balance as the elected politicians are

      Pakistan has had military rule but its not from what I understans dictatorship in the sense that world conveys -people dont live in fear and they can criticise the governement

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