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by Sunny on 7th May, 2006 at 2:34 pm    

I’ve got to cut the grass again today. Anyone doing anyonething interesting?

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  1. Rohin — on 7th May, 2006 at 3:07 pm  

    This week I have been mostly avoiding revision by:

    Learning pen tricks. I have discovered several crazy sites with ultra-geeky uber serious pen trick debate. This is the main one’s video page: http://www.pentrix.com/videos/videolist.php

    I’m pretty basic at the mo, but I waste a great deal of study time trying to master the fingerpass and the sonic. I find the sonic so hard, I can’t figure out if I’m doing it right. I want to blog about this on my own blog, it’s awesome. Jai already knows this, but you’re probably wondering why do I want to know this? Well obviously to impress Chinese people worldwide, but also - I’ll be the fucking dandia master!

    I also got a cool watch and new stetho. And won some money. So that’s my weekend. Anyone else?

  2. leon — on 7th May, 2006 at 3:39 pm  

    I’m preping for a job interview and hating the fact that the weather is so fecking good and I can’t enjoy it. Bastard nature…

  3. Jay Singh — on 7th May, 2006 at 3:43 pm  

    Brought office work home and am playing computer games and browsing through the sunday papers online instead

  4. al — on 7th May, 2006 at 4:02 pm  

    “Anyone doing anyone interesting? ”

    no - she wasn’t that interesting .

  5. Don — on 7th May, 2006 at 4:03 pm  

    Trip to the tip, re-potted some plants, light lunch of scrambled egg and smoked salmon for lunch, cycle ride along the Allen Banks.


  6. Jay Singh — on 7th May, 2006 at 4:08 pm  

    Wrestled with a crocodile, battered it, strangled a giant anaconda. Ran a marathon, spotted a UFO, made first contact with extra terrestrial life, stumbled into a changing room full of women athletes naked at the gym by accident, got locked in, they said dont worry, you may as well just shower with us. Ran over a rhinoceros on the way home, ate caviar and foir gras for a late lunch. Just a normal Sunday, boring really.

  7. Sunny — on 7th May, 2006 at 4:10 pm  

    Lol - al.

    Rohin - that watch is some next shit. Did you buy it from NASA? And what the hell does it do? It would take me ages just to figure out the time. Go and do your revision! Leave us work people/full time layabouts [delete as appropriate] to waste time on here.
    I went to an Arabic restaurant yesterday in the west end. Waaaay too much sheesha in one evening than is healthy. :(

    Jay - what games you playing? I’m toying with the idea of getting some new games as I’ve finished the ones I had (Unreal tournament and Far Cry).

    Leon - it isn’t that good. I thought last weekend was better.

    Don - errr how can you cycle around there?

  8. Jay Singh — on 7th May, 2006 at 4:11 pm  


    I have the old Atari arcades - Asteroids at the moment. Havent bought a new game for over a year. Might buy the new FIFA and play every world cup fixture on the computer as it happens.

  9. Don — on 7th May, 2006 at 4:29 pm  

    There are paths.

  10. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 4:33 pm  

    Anyone doing anyone interesting?

    Yeah, Queen Rania of Jordan!

  11. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 4:47 pm  

    Could I ask everyone a really stupid and out-of-place question?

    Who would ‘you’ like to see succeed George W. Bush as 44th President of the US?

    Your choice, however, must be within the confines of reality.
    [Sorry Rohin - you’re not a contender :-) ]

  12. Jay Singh — on 7th May, 2006 at 4:50 pm  

    Hilary Clinton

  13. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 4:54 pm  

    I fancy John McCain
    Republican senator for Arizona

  14. Sunny — on 7th May, 2006 at 4:55 pm  

    Amir - Howard Dean.

    Jay - oh man… I was expecting some top of the range game answer from you.

    Don - what, for a tractor?

  15. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 5:02 pm  

    Howard Dean’s a pussy, man! :-)

  16. raz — on 7th May, 2006 at 5:03 pm  

    Sunny, try Call of Duty 2 or FEAR.

    BTW guys, don’t fuck with Asian women:



    All the players out there (Rohin I’m looking at you) beware!

  17. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 5:06 pm  

    Hilary Clinton has more testosterone than Howard Dean!

    [But Sunny, I expect a ’soft’ choice from the likes you!]
    D’ya get me? 8)

  18. Katy Newton — on 7th May, 2006 at 6:22 pm  

    My step-uncle (I like to make up new degrees of relationship, it’s something to do), who is a manic depressive, has just left the house after a four-hour rant, so I shall be spending the rest of the weekend lying down in a darkened room until the hyperventilation stops…

  19. Katy Newton — on 7th May, 2006 at 6:23 pm  

    … although now that you mention it, my step uncle would make a very interesting 44th US President.

  20. Sunny — on 7th May, 2006 at 6:45 pm  

    Raz - no comment. :|

    Katy - whoa! Might I also suggest some hot-chocolate. That is good at calming nerves and the chocolate is good at lifting the mood. Chocolate….mmmmmmmm *drools*

    Amir- trust a neo-con like you to come out with that. I want what is best for Americans and the world. Hence Dean.

  21. Don — on 7th May, 2006 at 7:02 pm  


    Just because it ain’t asphalt with a bike painted on it doesn’t mean you can’t cycle on it. Townie.

  22. Rohin — on 7th May, 2006 at 7:03 pm  

    Raz that’s intense - and hilarious. I’ve been stalked. Nothing on that level though.

    Katy forget the choc and hit the hard stuff. Booze is great when you’re feeling down, nothing chases the blues away like a depressant.

  23. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 7:05 pm  


    Trust a neo-con like you to come out with that.

    Well, I was only being sarcastic – no offence intended. Judging by the discursive tonus you put on ‘neo-con’, however, it would appear that you’re more concerned about parading a hobbyhorse than doing what’s ‘best for the world’ (what an awful cliché).

    I’m not a Republican. I’m not a democrat. Nor am I Labour or Tory or Liberal democrat.

    My approach to politics is piecemeal. My approach to ethics is particularist (or ‘value-holistic’).

    Don’t confuse my sense of humour with any substantiated political judgment. That would be silly. In any case, you should always learn from your political opponents. - a failure to do so shows a lack of intellectual humility on your part.

  24. Sunny — on 7th May, 2006 at 7:11 pm  

    yeah whatever, tractor driver!

  25. Sid — on 7th May, 2006 at 7:11 pm  

    Gore Vidal is the best president the USA never had.

  26. Sunny — on 7th May, 2006 at 7:13 pm  

    My above comment was for Don.

    Amir - don’t worry I was also joking around. It’s the open thread remember… and its the weekend. I don’t want to get involved in long serious discussions.

    Rohin - if you want funny stuff, read Katy’s blog. Seriously required reading.

  27. Rakhee — on 7th May, 2006 at 7:14 pm  

    Easy Sunny, what are you, trying to run for Presidency yourself?

    Oh and correction. You should always learn from the MISTAKES of your political opponents - unless you want to be either letting criminals in to the country or screwing a minger who’s young enough to be your daughter.

    Ps - if you haven’t seen it already, take a look at todays Sunday Times magazine. Front cover has a Muslim girl covered in a British flag - inside feature on what it is like to be Muslim in Britain…

  28. Rohin — on 7th May, 2006 at 7:14 pm  

    Amir has certainly carved out a niche for himself at PP for achieving the highest jargon:content ratio in history.

    I don’t know who I want to be Pres of the USA. Someone who will get on with Gordon Brown?

  29. Rakhee — on 7th May, 2006 at 7:14 pm  

    Sorry - message directed at Amir!

  30. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 7:24 pm  

    All apologies,
    Sorry, I just hate the word ‘neo-con’: with me, it’s like waving a red flag to a bull {and yes: I know they’re colour blind} People just reduce it to the level of a swearword and it gets floated around like a fart that won’t go away.

    Anybody who calls themselves a ‘neoconservative’ is an idiot (i.e. Oliver Kamm). Anyone who accuses others of being a ‘neo-con’ deserves to be shot (i.e. Salma Yaqoob).

    What a stupid, pathetic, loathsome, and meaningless word.

  31. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 7:30 pm  

    The jargon isn’t my fault:

    …I was only 15 when I started reading AA Gill and WIll Self.

    Old habits die hard.

  32. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 7:34 pm  

    You’re now calling me a tractor driver!!

    Kick a dog when he’s down! :-)

  33. Rohin — on 7th May, 2006 at 7:42 pm  

    You’re now calling me a tractor driver!!

    But you just called yourself a dog.

    AA Gill and Will Self…yes that explains a lot.

  34. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 7:51 pm  

    Too right! British bulldog bites back!

    [oh no, that’s the name for a right-wing BNP spinoff that campaigned in Rusholme, Manchester. They amassed a total of 3 votes!]

  35. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 8:05 pm  

    I’ve read the Sunday Times magazine, and the article you refer to (at last: some self-exculpatory coverage of British Moslems). Is that you on the front cover by any chance? If it is, then please give me your phone number!!

    I went out with a Moslem girl once. Iranian – absolutely beautiful: huge, glowing brown eyes, perfect complexion, bulbous lips, and hips that used to swerve from side-to-side in the most seductive way you could ever imagine – personality wise: she was witty, super-intelligent, empathic, caring, and always thinking about the welfare of other people. Sigh.

    Just one tiny problem: her father.

  36. Rakhee — on 7th May, 2006 at 8:33 pm  

    Amir, that was OUR secret. And (imagine strongest indian accent possible) don’t your dare bring my father in to this. You ruined the relationship when he overheard you telling your mates about my hips and Angelina Jolie lips.


  37. Sunny — on 7th May, 2006 at 8:43 pm  

    I love Iranian women. I met some in Las Vegas… they were off the scale.

    Amir, err.. I called Don a tractor driver not you!

  38. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 9:01 pm  

    Rakhee, (sigh)
    Those were the days. We were like Preity Zinta and Shahrukh Khan in ‘Veer-Zaara’, or Kate Winslet and Leonardo de-Caprio in ‘Titanic’ – it was so beautiful, but so tragic.

    “But I, being poor, have only my dreams / I have spread my dreams beneath your feet / Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.” [William Butler Yeats]


  39. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 9:07 pm  

    I know,… that was the joke! But alas, my humour is too high-brow for you. :-)

  40. Rakhee — on 7th May, 2006 at 9:13 pm  

    Sunny - Iranian women in LAS VEGAS??
    Amir - I only wear stilettos.

  41. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 9:26 pm  

    The U.S. contains the highest number of Iranians in the world outside Iran. The Iranian-American community has produced a sizeable number of individuals (in 1996, their numbers were estimated at 1,560,000) notable in many fields, including medicine, engineering, and business. They tend to reside in California, particularly Los Angeles, Orange County, La Jolla, and San Jose. There are also large concentrations in Washington DC, and around Dallas and Houston, Texas.

    Many Persian-Americans are also of Azeri, Armenian, Kurdish, and Chaldean/Assyrian in origin. Many of whom are either Jewish or Christian.

  42. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 9:30 pm  

    Here, arguably, is the most famous Iranian-American.

    Shock! Gasp!

  43. Rakhee — on 7th May, 2006 at 9:33 pm  

    Thanks A, I never knew that. The US is one place I haven’t frequented much - just been to Hawaii and that’s about it.

    Which reminds me, can you believe I visited there about 4 months after 9/11. We landed really late, we were the only 2 Asian people on the flight and out of the ENTIRE plane load of people, we were the only ones who were stopped to have our bags checked.

    Really hate to say it but it made me feel so uncomfortable for the rest of the trip and has put me off going back. Ridiculous I know.

  44. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 9:37 pm  

    An Iranian-American Republican.

    The founder of a ‘tiny-big’ business.

    A model that looks (frighteningly) similar to my ex-girlfriend.

  45. Sunny — on 7th May, 2006 at 9:39 pm  

    Agassi is Iranian???

    I repeat, Iranian women are seriously hot. If only GW Bush and his ilk knew, they’d never even bother threatening the country. Damn fools.

  46. Katy Newton — on 7th May, 2006 at 9:39 pm  

    Thank you, Sunny! That cheered me up almost as much as the large slice of chocolate cake to which I just helped myself.

    Ahhhhh… endorphins.

  47. Katy Newton — on 7th May, 2006 at 9:42 pm  

    (To clarify, I meant the nice thing you said about my blog rather than the fact that Iranian women are seriously hot, although obviously that’s good news too.)

  48. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 9:49 pm  

    Yeah, I can understand why it put you off. There’s nothing more humiliating than racial-profiling – but, then again, what’s the alternative to it in a climate of fear and pre-emption? People’s heuristics go all awry after a terrorist attack.

    If it’s any consolation, Indian girls are really, really hot too! :-)
    Asians and Persians are aesthetically very pleasing.

  49. Sunny — on 7th May, 2006 at 9:54 pm  

    Mmmmmm…. endorphins…. *drool*

  50. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 10:00 pm  

    Here’s another woman I really like:

    There’s nothing better than a girl with attitude.

  51. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 10:04 pm  

    ‘Mouth from the South’

    Ha ha ha!!

  52. Sunny — on 7th May, 2006 at 10:20 pm  

    Katy as long as you don’t fall under the curse of Newton we’re good ;)

  53. Rohin — on 7th May, 2006 at 10:32 pm  

    Iranian girls…meh overrated. Too much makeup too many nosejobs (highest rate in the world). I had a brief dalliance with an Iranian girl too, bit weird. Now, I have too many Iranian friends than I care to think about. One reads this occasionally so I better not be too rude (although she’s not talking to me at present). Agassi only half Iranian. It should be pronounced Ag-haasi.

    Yeah Iranians are all over Cali, more so than Vegas (were they from California Sunny?) One of the guys I went to the States with this time is Iranian, half his entire family live in LA and San Diego. I was terribly disappointed he didn’t get anally probed in JFK, even with Farsi and Born in Tehran on his passport.

    Both of the two most recent Miss Canadas have been Iranian too. Ramona Amiri (half Iranian) did well at Miss World last year - you can see why. And you can also see she has had a nosejob. Oh yeah, and she wants to be a doctor, w00t!

  54. Sunny — on 7th May, 2006 at 10:37 pm  

    Holy macaroni! I stand by my Iranian girls comment. Your frighteningly good knowledge of beauty pageant winners comes in quite handy sometimes Rohin. Keep up the links.

    I don’t know where the hell they were from. You could have asked me where I was from and I’d be unsure given the state I was in. One was half-portugese too… hot damn.

  55. Rohin — on 7th May, 2006 at 10:42 pm  

    So Sunny…did you actually score? No more of this ‘I met some Iranian girls’, we want a yay or nay. No details necessary, we’re not girls in a lavatory, but I want an affirmative or negative.

    Half Portuguese and half Iranian does sound like a smoking combo.

  56. Sunny — on 7th May, 2006 at 10:50 pm  

    Do I have to admit everything on a public forum, damn you? Yes I did. The pure Iranian one was a bit wierd though… kinda like an Iranian goth…. who loved techno. Not that I’m complaining mind you. Anyway, haven’t you got revision to do?

  57. Rohin — on 7th May, 2006 at 10:53 pm  

    Got my answer, now I can go revise :) Night night

  58. Sunny — on 7th May, 2006 at 10:56 pm  

    You know I just realised now that I’d mistakenly written “doing anyone interesting” on top… when al pointed it out I thought he’d just altered my words. No wonder this thread has gone down the pan.

  59. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 11:02 pm  

    It’s my birthday in a few hours… 8 May
    How old do you think I am?

    If you get it right (+/-1), I’ll defend you unconditionally on the next two threads.

    [Hardly the most amazing prize ever, but hey!]

  60. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 11:06 pm  

    Sunny… you ravaged an Iranian chick? Awesome.

    RESPECT (Ali G. ‘respect’, not Salma Yaqoob ‘respect’)

  61. Sunny — on 7th May, 2006 at 11:17 pm  

    The less of my personal life the better, but no I wouldn’t say “ravaged”.

    I reckon 23 Amir.

  62. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 11:23 pm  

    That’s what you get for pandering to medical students before their medical exams! 8)

    I’ll be 22
    Unconditional support for two threads
    [Just don’t write anything ‘nice’ about Hugo Chavez or Ken Livingstone]

  63. Sunny — on 7th May, 2006 at 11:32 pm  

    Believe it or not I WAS planning a thread on Hugo Chavez and you’ll have to stick with your agreement.

  64. raz — on 7th May, 2006 at 11:43 pm  

    “So Sunny…did you actually score? ”

    Is this a question which even needs to be asked? This is Sunny Hundal, uber-pimp of the British Asian world who we are talking about!

  65. Bikhair — on 7th May, 2006 at 11:47 pm  


    I live in South Cali and there are so many, Persians, not Iranians here. The impression I get from them is that the men are all metrosexual types and they all seem to be apart of this swarthy socialite click. I really hate the way they react to seeing a Muslim such as myself. You would think they were as ignorant as your average white America. Its seems so phony.

  66. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 11:48 pm  

    Sunny… I’ve just seen your photograph

    I reckon you’re 36?
    Am I close?

  67. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 11:51 pm  

    No way? How come? I’ve met some Iranian chicks in LA, and they seemed pretty chilled-out.

  68. Sunny — on 7th May, 2006 at 11:51 pm  

    I really hate the way they react to seeing a Muslim such as myself.
    Bikhair - does your husband even let you out?

    Amir - err, from where? No you’re about 8 years out.

  69. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 11:52 pm  

    Shit man, I was only joking!


  70. raz — on 7th May, 2006 at 11:53 pm  


    Ladies, watch out!

  71. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 11:58 pm  

    That’s Sacha Baron Cohen, not Sunny Hundal!

  72. Amir — on 7th May, 2006 at 11:59 pm  

    8 years out?
    What, …. are you like 44 or something?

  73. Amir — on 8th May, 2006 at 12:01 am  



  74. Amir — on 8th May, 2006 at 12:03 am  

    NO, NO……


  75. Katy Newton — on 8th May, 2006 at 12:04 am  

    I’d forgotten about the Curse of Newton. I’d better go to bed whilst you’re still updating…

  76. Sunny — on 8th May, 2006 at 12:06 am  

    right… almost time for lift-off.

  77. Xerxes — on 8th May, 2006 at 12:06 am  

    Lots of the Iranians in LA are probably not even Muslim - they are Bahai or they are just secular Muslims turned off the religion by the disgusting behavious of the mad mullahs of Teheran and their stupid repressive idiocy

  78. Sid — on 8th May, 2006 at 12:07 am  

    I’m so excited
    i just can’t hide it
    i’m about to lose control

  79. Sunny — on 8th May, 2006 at 12:25 am  

    Whooops. A few things are out of sync.

  80. Amir — on 8th May, 2006 at 12:32 am  

    What da fuc..?

    No, no, Rohin’s Mexican mushrooms are kicking in already?

  81. Jay Singh — on 8th May, 2006 at 12:36 am  


    I have that brand new feeling.

  82. Amir — on 8th May, 2006 at 1:26 am  

    Hey Jay,
    Can I just say: You’re an excellent commentator. Keep it up, son.

    Great diary, too.

  83. Jay Singh — on 8th May, 2006 at 1:33 am  

    Son? I’m older than you mate ;-)

  84. Amir — on 8th May, 2006 at 1:45 am  

    Okay,… good diary, gramps. :-)

  85. Amir — on 8th May, 2006 at 1:48 am  

    Sunny, you look young for 44.
    Fair play son.

  86. Sunny — on 8th May, 2006 at 1:53 am  

    I’ll tell you all about my skin moisturiser when you grow older ;)

  87. Amir — on 8th May, 2006 at 2:13 am  

    Dude, I can spot an ‘Oil of Ulay’ user a mile off! That finely cut goatee and glowing Indian complexion and gleaming blue eyes are too coincidental for condolence.

  88. Amir — on 8th May, 2006 at 2:25 am  

    You need to get your bearings right on this new template.

    If you’re using FrontPage, don’t trust the ‘preview’ option - it’s all messed up with bad, amateurish programming. [Bill Gates is so overrated]

    Keep the Pickler’s Section where it is. Just mess about with the main text for a bit.

    You’ll get it right.

  89. Jai — on 8th May, 2006 at 10:28 am  

    Sid (re: post #78) — Interesting response to Sunny’s photos ;)

    Sunny — You look like a bit of a ladykiller, bro…..

    Amir — You are shockingly intelligent and well-informed for someone who is a decade younger than me. Good for you — and welcome to PP. You should check out the American version “Sepia Mutiny” too — Rohin and myself (and occasionally Sunny) loiter there pretty frequently. If you like PP then you’ll enjoy SM as well.

    Re: Iranian women. I agree with the previous comments; I’ve met a few during my time at university and also during my subsequent career, a disproportionate number of them look like models (from our desi point of view anyway). Quite stunning. Of course it’s funny when you first meet them and initally you don’t realise they’re not actually (South) Asian and you start flirting in Hindi/Punjabi etc, and they just nod away politely…..

    Rohin — I remember the two Miss Canadas you mentioned. Yep, hot stuff indeed. Didn’t one of them do a belly-dance during the “talent round” ? I’d actually thought she was Indian or Pakistani so found her choice of “item number” curious, although now that you’ve clarified matters it does explain everything.

  90. Jai — on 8th May, 2006 at 10:31 am  

    *and they just nod away politely…..

    I meant in the sense of “nodding their heads”, not “drifting off and ignoring you while you’re talking to them”. The latter only happens to Sunny.

  91. Rohin — on 8th May, 2006 at 11:52 am  

    Most Iranians in Cali are Muslim, not Baha’i but they certainly aren’t religious. This Persian vs Iranian difference is asinine Bikhair. There is no such thing as Persia. My Iranian mates get ticked off with people who say they’re Persian. It’s like an Iraqi saying he’s Mesopotamian.

    I go away for a few hours, I come back and Amir’s 22, Sunny’s 44 (wtf?), the website’s all changed, Sunny’s engaged in a war with Flash Gordon, Jai’s diverting people to Sepia (for shame!), Jay’s Amir’s grampa and it’s OLAY not Ulay.

    Jai - yup her bellydance was phenomenal. I even blogged about it.

  92. Rakhee — on 8th May, 2006 at 12:08 pm  

    Is this a boys only conversation or are females invited to join?

  93. Rohin — on 8th May, 2006 at 12:16 pm  

    Oh please do. You are welcome to tell us about past conquests in Vegas, which ethnic group you find attractive and what you think of Sunny’s porcelain complexion.

  94. Rakhee — on 8th May, 2006 at 1:06 pm  

    Past conquests in Vegas? None. Past conquests? A whole other story…!

    See the problem with male Asians is that there isn’t really the equivalent of a beautiful Iranian (or Indian - on the subject of Miss Worlds see here for scoretable http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_World).

    Muslims, nice complexion but often not very manly in frame (I said frame, not size). Indians, can be dashing but very hairy. Middle East men, probably the best looking but without the facial hair (went to Dubai and some were rather lovely to look at). Punjabi men, never been out with one so couldn’t really comment. Have seen some crazy dance moves from them though at weddings. Didn’t know whether to just join in or run screaming in the opposite direction.

    Sunny’s porcelain complexion? Swoon.

  95. Rohin — on 8th May, 2006 at 1:29 pm  

    Your definitions are a bit whack Rakhee. Muslims - there is no such thing as a Muslim look. Then you say Indians separate to Punjabis. Who are Indians then? Anyway I shan’t say anymore as I don’t want to get you started on Bengalis…never good for the self esteem to hear what people have to say about Bengali men.

    Hey hey Sunny, you’re in there mate.

  96. Sid — on 8th May, 2006 at 1:41 pm  


    My comment on #78 was in response to Sunny’s comment about in #76 (”almost time for lift-off”) about the unveiling of the new PP look. But to be fair, the new HTML design isn’t as fwaaaaaar! as Sunny.

  97. sonia — on 8th May, 2006 at 1:42 pm  

    nice new look..

  98. Rohin — on 8th May, 2006 at 1:50 pm  

    the new HTML design isn’t as fwaaaaaar! as Sunny.

    Hey hey Sunny, you’re in there (again) mate.

  99. Rakhee — on 8th May, 2006 at 1:58 pm  

    Rohin, sorry, I should have differentiated between Gujaratis and Punjabis.

    And of course there’s such a thing as a Muslim look. Muslim guys tend to have fairer complexions and often, a really good features / bone structures.

    Bengalis? Let me loose, come on…

    ps see this article which appeared in off the back of a Maxim survey - check out the quote from Tony Patel from Hackney who wants a girl who hasn’t had any boyfriends. He’s 43! http://www.davidnicholson.com/www/sex02.htm

  100. Rohin — on 8th May, 2006 at 3:17 pm  

    Ah well those sorts of Asian men won’t be found round here Rakhee!

    No I mean ‘Muslim’ can be black, white, brown, Chinese etc etc. There isn’t a Muslim look, saying they have fair complexions makes no sense. Even in India it makes no sense as you have Muslims all over the place, from every ethnic background. You can say pathan, or punjabi or something, but not Muslim. It’s like saying Christians look a certain way.

    You want to pass judgement on Bengalis? Do your worst. Just remember one man. Mithuuuuuun! (PBUH)

  101. Charlie Patel — on 8th May, 2006 at 3:48 pm  

    I don’t get it. Ethinicities are mightily messed up. A Punjabi can be Sikh, Hindu or Muslim. A Bengali can be Hindu or Muslim. As can a Gujarati. So how can you talk of guys as having a physical look accorded by their religion when you talk of Asians? Strange thinking……

  102. Amir — on 8th May, 2006 at 4:05 pm  

    Strange thinking, yes…. But ‘fun thinking’ too!

    What’s so wrong about putting millions (billions?) of people in homogeneous boxes and labelling them as either ‘good’ or ‘bad’, handsome or butt-ugly? Stop being so politically-correct!

    The prettiest races on plant:

    1. Somalians
    2. Iranians
    3. Latinos
    4. Indians
    5. Japanese

    Triumph des Willens! Volksgenossen!

  103. Sid — on 8th May, 2006 at 4:09 pm  

    where are the Dutch and Bengali girls on that list?

  104. Charlie Patel — on 8th May, 2006 at 4:14 pm  

    I think you miss the point I was making Amir - I was talking about how it is wrong to suggest that a South Asian ethnicity is the preserve of a single religious group. Political Correctness has nothing to do with it.

  105. Amir — on 8th May, 2006 at 4:21 pm  

    I know… don’t worry. Just trying to provoke a response from the mushy-mushy ‘we should treat people as equals’ crowd! You should, in my opinion, listen more to this guy.

    Sid… you’ve just thrown a spanner in the works. Dutch?? Begali? Nice.

    Anyways, I’m not that choosy……….
    Rakhee, will you have me back?

  106. Rakhee — on 8th May, 2006 at 4:24 pm  

    Oh for goodness sake. Ok, ok, I take all of your points. I guess I should have been more careful with my words and confused origin and religion. Thank you for rectifying me. Muslim above perhaps should have read Pakistani who are fairer skinned than Punjabi guys (in the same way as you think Iranian women are beautiful).

    Am now leaving to find myself a nice Italian man before I upset you all.

    Amir, don’t you dare now send me a breakdown of Italians….

  107. Amir — on 8th May, 2006 at 4:34 pm  

    I will sing to you, buy you chocolates, read you poetry (any language), and whisk you away in my manly arms.

    After that, I’ll show you some of my David Brent impressions and buy you a chicken bucket from KFC.

    My Indian Princess, don’t leave me. Those greasy Italians are more concerned about their hair and football than they are about you.

  108. Jay Singh — on 8th May, 2006 at 4:42 pm  


    Most Pakistani men are Punjabi.

  109. Charlie Patel — on 8th May, 2006 at 4:46 pm  

    Amir - why do you think i need to listen to the redneck rush limbaugh? is it because you see yourself as an agent provocateur against political correctness and you assume everyone is stupid and needs advice even when you talk bollocks? Its so yawn inducing.

  110. Jay Singh — on 8th May, 2006 at 4:47 pm  

    Amir - the Barry White of Pickled Politics.

  111. Rohin — on 8th May, 2006 at 4:50 pm  

    Can I please say at this point: You all know me to be Bengali/English, but I am also part Dutch. I think you might fancy me Sid.

    You’re going for an Italian eh Rakhee? Some nice looking fellas there but between you and me, you may have trouble if you want to get knocked up - not too productive in the wee swimmers department if ya git me…

    And I was going to say what Jay said. Although is it MOST Jay? I thought it was about half. Someone find this out, NOW. I demand it.

  112. Jay Singh — on 8th May, 2006 at 4:54 pm  

    Yeah 70% of the Pakistani population is ethnically Punjabi.

  113. Rohin — on 8th May, 2006 at 4:56 pm  

    Thank you Jay.

    Entirely unrelated, but This is quite cool.

  114. Jay Singh — on 8th May, 2006 at 4:57 pm  

    Rakhee God Bless her is a little confused. I think Charlie Patel made a good point. I don’t know who she is referring to when she says ‘Punjabi’ - maybe she means generically Sikh - but as Sunny shows Punjabi Sikhs can be quite fair skinned. In fact a visit to the Golden Temple last year amazed me with the variety of ethnicity within the Punjabi Sikh group - green eyed white skinned mountain dwellers to your average Mexican looking Jatt.

  115. Sid — on 8th May, 2006 at 4:58 pm  

    Can I please say at this point: You all know me to be Bengali/English, but I am also part Dutch. I think you might fancy me Sid.

    After seeing you in your Matrix parody filmed in some Indian takeaway, I do Rohin. I so do.

  116. Jay Singh — on 8th May, 2006 at 5:00 pm  

    This thread is about to take a gay turn.

  117. Rohin — on 8th May, 2006 at 5:05 pm  

    “This thread is about to take a gay turn.”

    Now THAT’S the kind of thread I can dig.

  118. Sid — on 8th May, 2006 at 5:06 pm  

    oh shits, man!

  119. Rakhee — on 8th May, 2006 at 5:09 pm  

    Jay, you sound a little excited by that.
    Amir, thank you.
    Rohin, how the hell do you know about ‘productivity’ of Italian men?

  120. Amir — on 8th May, 2006 at 5:16 pm  

    Charlie Patel,
    Lighten up. This is an ‘open’ thread. If you want to talk politics, then I’ll be more than willing to assume the role of interlocutor… but on a different subject-matter.

    Its so yawn inducing.

    My friend, a failure to take oneself less seriously is a more obvious sign of immaturity. I know that from personal experience.

    …and you assume everyone is stupid

    I’ve learnt more about the machinations of Indian politics and the ‘ins’ and ‘outs’ of the Sikh community from this blog than any other.

    Amir - the Barry White of Pickled Politics.

    Jay: think of Barry white, spliced with Snoop Dogg and Chris de Burgh. Now,… you’re getting close!

  121. Jay Singh — on 8th May, 2006 at 5:18 pm  

    Not really excited Rakhee, just hoping for some variety on a boring late afternoon office overtime yawn-a-thon

  122. Jay Singh — on 8th May, 2006 at 5:27 pm  

    Sven has included a 17 year old Arsenal striker who has never played a full Premiership game in the World Cup squad as reserve in case Owen and Rooney are both injured - amazing story


  123. Amir — on 8th May, 2006 at 5:30 pm  

    I’ve written a poem for you:

    [cough, cough… clearing my throat]

    Rahkee, you are the only woman for me
    I will take you down to the sea
    With a cup of tea and a slice of brie

    Rakhee, you make me feel so free
    Like a flea or a monkey in a tree
    Or having to pee after six cups of coff-ee


  124. Rohin — on 8th May, 2006 at 5:30 pm  

    Oh I’ve been reading about the squad all morning, reactions, watching TV…as if the Internet wasn’t distracting enough already.

  125. Jay Singh — on 8th May, 2006 at 5:32 pm  

    What story if that kid gets to play and scores goals - he hasnt even made a Premiership appearance! Pure untested talent!

  126. Jay Singh — on 8th May, 2006 at 5:56 pm  

    Penis reattached after maid cuts it off

    Surgeons have reattached the penis of a Saudi man who paid the price for trying to have sex with his Filipina maid and she attacked him with a knife, a hospital source said on Monday.

    “This is a sophisticated operation. You are dealing with an organ in a difficult area and you want to try to return to its efficiency,” said a spokesman at Riyadh’s Takhassusi Hospital.

    Earlier this month newspapers reported that the maid removed her employer’s manhood when he tried to molest her in the middle of the night as his wife was sleeping. The maid is now in police custody.

    “It’s one of the rare cases … but they did it (the operation) last week and it went smoothly,” the spokesman said. “The hospital has done this kind of operation before, but only after people had car accidents.”


  127. Bikhair — on 8th May, 2006 at 6:04 pm  


    Sorry but they are totally materialistic but that is what young Middle Easterners are like anyway.

  128. Rohin — on 8th May, 2006 at 6:05 pm  

    I’m delighted that maid slashed his dick, shame it got sewn back on. But the reality is her life is over. In prison. In Saudi. For attacking an Arab. And she’s Filipino. She’s fucked, poor thing. They’ll probably rule that it was her fault he tried to rape her. The way Asian workers are treated in that shit hole of a country is below despicable.

  129. Bikhair — on 8th May, 2006 at 6:05 pm  

    Jay Sinhg,

    Music to your ears I am sure. Now why does this Islamically fundamentalist country allow their males to mix with females?

  130. Jay Singh — on 8th May, 2006 at 6:13 pm  

    I don’t know what your question means Bikhair or what you’re asking me.


    You are right - the poor girl’s life is going to get tough now. But its basically state sanctioned rape of Phillipino maids there - they dont stand a chance in hell and get no redress or protection. Shame his dick was saved.

  131. Rakhee — on 8th May, 2006 at 6:49 pm  

    His and those who allegedly work for the UN and are involved in using poor children for sex (I think in Africa but could be wrong). On the front of the Metro today. Makes me physically ill.

  132. Rakhee — on 8th May, 2006 at 6:53 pm  

    Amir -

    Rahkee, you are the only woman for me - WOULD HELP IF YOU SPELT MY NAME RIGHT
    I will take you down to the sea IT’S BLOODY FREEZING!
    With a cup of tea and a slice of brie LOVE BRIE, BUT NOT WITH TEA

    Rakhee, you make me feel so free YES, THAT’S BECAUSE I HAVEN’T MET YOU
    Or having to pee after six cups of coff-ee SPEECHLESS

    …but thank you for the lovely thought…

  133. Rohin — on 8th May, 2006 at 7:03 pm  

    Rakhee, cut a brother some slack, he’s trying. It was his birthday, you’re so cruel. He’s 22, right kind of age for you? About Italians - I heard they have low sperm counts due to tight trousers. I have no evidence to back this up. But if I say it convincingly, do you really need evidence?

    And Amir. I may have defended you, but please, no more poems. For the love of all that is sacred, no poems.

  134. Rakhee — on 8th May, 2006 at 7:11 pm  

    Aw. I feel bad now. Sorry Amir. HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

    Rohin, who said I wanted to have babies?

  135. Rohin — on 8th May, 2006 at 7:39 pm  

    I’m thinking of the long game here. Plus I just randomly wanted to throw in some trivia about Italian men. That’s about the extent of my knowledge, outside Mafia movies.

  136. Amir — on 8th May, 2006 at 8:32 pm  

    A poem for Rohin [a.k.a. Rohin’s problem]
    Now I’m old and feeble,
    And my pilot light is out,
    What used to be my sex appeal
    Is now my water spout.

    ‘Twas a time, when of it’s own accord
    From my trousers it would spring,
    But now I have a part time job
    To find the blasted thing.

    I used to be embarrased
    To make that thing behave,
    For every single morning
    It would stand and watch me shave.

    But as old age approaches
    It sure gives me the blues,
    To see it hang it’s withered head
    And watch me tie my shoes.

  137. Amir — on 8th May, 2006 at 8:44 pm  

    Sorry, I couldn’t help myself!

    Rakhee - I salute thee xxxx

  138. Amir — on 8th May, 2006 at 8:49 pm  


    Am I hallucinating, or is that ‘Lenin’s Tomb’ on your list of comrades? Is that meant to be ironic or somethin’, or are you guys actually comrades?

  139. Rakhee — on 8th May, 2006 at 9:06 pm  

    Amir - LOL. I am still at work writing a stakeholder mapping strategy. Losing the will. Fast.

  140. Amir — on 8th May, 2006 at 9:44 pm  

    Are you doing a BA/MA in Economics and Management?
    Or are you a fully-fledged businesswoman?
    [‘stakeholder mapping strategy’ – sexy!]

  141. Rohin — on 9th May, 2006 at 12:14 pm  

    Amir, er, thanks..I think. Stick to flirting with girls as opposed to penning poems about my manhood ;)

    Here, Gautam Malkani is in TIME. He’s dressed up in badboy clothes and a record bag. Strreeeeet mon. I’m jealous of this guy now, TIME has always represented a special publication for me, I’ve read it since the age of 10.


  142. Jai — on 9th May, 2006 at 2:13 pm  

    Re: The “old age” jokes in Amir’s poem.

    Er…..Rohin, aren’t you approximately the same age as Amir (plus or minus a year or so ?)

    PS I’m sure we’d all like to hear more about Rakhee and her stilletos…..

  143. Rakhee — on 9th May, 2006 at 2:24 pm  

    Really? YAY! Shoes. Love them.

    In fact here’s a question for you all. Was talking to my girlfriends about the first thing we notice about a man (clothing) and mostly all of them said shoes. Get polishing guys. Second is trousers/jeans. Nothing worse than a guy wearing jeans that just don’t fit right.

    What’s the first thing you notice on a girl? Keep it clean…

  144. Jai — on 9th May, 2006 at 3:45 pm  

    =>”What’s the first thing you notice on a girl?”

    It depends on the specific girl. I can’t speak for everyone, but I don’t think guys necessarily keep an eye out for assessing particular pieces of female attire (eg. shoes etc). Of course guys do have certain anatomical preferences, as per their own tastes and fetishes, so I guess they “notice” all that first.

    Which of course depends on the specific guy, too.

  145. Amir — on 9th May, 2006 at 8:36 pm  

    Rakhee, here’s my own taxonomy of ‘attractiveness’:

    1. Eyes Okay, it’s the biggest cliché of all – but it’s universally true. They’re the windows to the human soul. Big, brown eyes with long-eyelashes and a sleepy glare. Greeks, Italians, and Cypriots have beautiful eyes, as do Indians, Iranians, and Kurdish women. If I’m going to be especially greedy, then I’d also mention strong, masculine cheekbones. Check out Romilly Weeks.

    2. Body language: Potentially, the most lethal weapon in a woman’s arsenal. Body language tells us many things (consciously and sub-consciously): Is she a warm and endearing person? Confident? Open-minded? Polite (i.e., laughing at your unfunny jokes (a must-have in my case))? And is she horny? Don’t laugh, this is serious point: a girl who likes to flirt is very attractive to the opposite sex, regardless of how good-looking she is. Flirtatiousness and bubbly laughter, when combined, provide the ultimate aphrodisiac.

    3. Personality: Once you get past the small-talk and nervousness, you come to the ‘meat and potatoes’ of courtship: her demeanour and disposition of character. I, for one, am attracted to the following traits: modesty (excessive vanity is a major turn-off), humility (an attitude of ‘give’ and ‘take’ is essential), empathy (cold-hearted women are undeserving of love), playfulness, curiosity, and intelligence. ‘Insecurities’ are both natural and unavoidable – in both men and in women. They only become a ‘problem’, however, if it makes your partner unhealthily paranoid and irrationally jealous (the latter, by the way, goes hand-in-hand with sex – Billy Bob Thornton, the ultimate male ‘stud’, has made this point on numerous occasions; I concur)

    4. Clothing: No scantily-clad outfits: it’s unsubtle and unsophisticated. As for Moslem women, I have no problem with the hijab (ironically, it is often very seductive… which, I suppose, kinda defeats the object of covering your hair!?). Still, I am put off if the rest of her attire is baggy and monochrome – sorry, it just shouts out ‘religious insularity’. Indian girls, on the other hand, wear the most beautiful and exotic attire – saris score major brownie points with me. Louis Vuiton girls (i.e., big fashion spenders) are okay… just so long as they’re doing it for aesthetic reasons – not to make a point about their economic and social status. At the end of the day, clothing is just an extension of how you see yourself and the world you inhabit.

    5. Figure: Okay, I have no ‘set’ preference for a girl’s body - I think it’s disgraceful that the media put so much pressure on young girls to deprive themselves of food. All shapes and all sizes are attractive in their own right, just so long as the girl isn’t overly obese (which, in any case, is bad for her lifestyle and longevity on this planet). The classic ‘pear-shaped’ figure – i.e. big hips, big bum – is vastly underrated in my opinion!


  146. Rohin — on 9th May, 2006 at 8:53 pm  

    I think she asked which item of clothing do you notice first.

    And yes Jai, I’m only a wee bit older than Amir.

  147. Rakhee — on 9th May, 2006 at 9:27 pm  

    Yes Rohin I did but thank you Amir for the explanation in to exactly what you look for in a woman..

    I did write a detailed response back but my system just crashed. Muh.

    The one thing I would say is that eyes, I don’t think, are so much the windows to the soul anymore. A lot of people either aren’t in touch with their souls or are so secretive that their eyes give away a different story. It’s called lying. You want the truth - watch a person’s hands when in conversation. Dead giveaway.

    Also, you don’t mention the word passion in your entire explanation. Without it, you’re screwed. Or not, as the case may be….

  148. Amir — on 10th May, 2006 at 1:11 am  

    What can I say: I take de’ passion for granted! If you ever need some D.I.Y. lessons on how to handle a screwdriver, d’hen let me tell you: my services are readily available - I’ll put Fred Dibner and Handy Andy to shame! I ain’t so much a black‘n’decker as I am a play-her-and-****-her [Yvonne, if you’re reading this, then dat applies to you too! D’ya get me bruva?]

  149. Amir — on 10th May, 2006 at 3:00 am  

    On a more serious note,
    Here’s what Bertrand Russell had to say about the dangers of romantic love in a relationship:

    So long as passionate lovers are regarded as in revolt against social trammels, they are admired; but in real life the love-relation itself quickly becomes a social trammel, and the partner in love comes to be hated, all the more vehemently if the love is strong enough to make the bond difficult to break. Hence love comes to be conceived as a battle, in which each is attempting to destroy the other by breaking through the protected walls of his or her ego.

    [p621, History of Western Philosophy]

    This point of view has been popularized through the writings of Strindberg, and, of course, DH Lawrence. Now Rakhee, and ask yourself this: at what point does unmitigated passion become self-indulgent rather than self-fulfilling, and at what point does it become self-destructive rather than self-actualizing?

  150. Rakhee — on 10th May, 2006 at 8:09 am  

    - At what point does unmitigated passion become self-indulgent rather than self-fulfilling, and at what point does it become self-destructive rather than self-actualizing?

    True, unmitigated passion is self-indulgent from the very beginning of such a relationship surely. That’s the point about passion itself. As is self-destructiveness. Real, lose yourself in the moment passion is nothing to do with self-actualization at all, until at least passion wears off and reality sets in. That’s why people get in to so much trouble. And that’s why we continue to read books from authors like DH Lawrence.

  151. Bea — on 10th May, 2006 at 4:04 pm  

    Whoa, reading this thread from

    “I’ve got to cut the grass again today. Anyone doing anyonething interesting? ”

    to ….
    D.H. Lawrence

    was like watching The PP Grand Prix on a roller coaster. I am still a bit woozy!!

  152. Rakhee — on 10th May, 2006 at 4:41 pm  

    I know. Nothing to do with me. It’s all Amir..

  153. Jay Singh — on 10th May, 2006 at 8:06 pm  

    I love this story


    A newly elected British National Party councillor has denied being involved in the making of a gay porn movie

    Richard Barnbrook, one of 11 BNP winners in Barking and Dagenham at last week’s local elections, said it was “an art film… not a bloody porn film”.

    The Evening Standard has a copy of the film HMS Discovery: A Love Story, which it says includes naked men clawing passionately at each other’s bodies.

    But Mr Barnbrook said: “It is not about homosexuality - it’s about sexuality.”

    According to the Evening Standard, the film includes long scenes of men undressing and fondling each other, full-frontal nudity and a naked man apparently performing a sex act on another.


    Wonder what the chaps at Stormfront are saying about this?

    Anyway - the killer line at the end:

    In the party’s election manifesto, the BNP raised the prospect of a local vote so parents could decide if they want to “prohibit the teaching of homosexuality as an alternative lifestyle choice”

  154. Amir — on 11th May, 2006 at 1:02 am  

    Here’s my favourite poem, which I’m going to devote to you:

    The fountains mingle with the river,
    …And the rivers with the ocean;
    The winds of heaven mix forever,
    …With a sweet emotion;
    Nothing in the world is single;
    …All things by a law divine
    In one another’s being mingle:-
    …Why not I with thine?

    See! the mountains kiss high heaven,
    …And the waves clasp one another;
    No sister flower would be forgiven
    …If it disdained its brother;
    And the sunlight clasps the earth,
    …And the moonbeams kiss the sea:-
    What are all these kissings worth,
    …If thou kiss not me?

    Love’s Philosophy
    by Percy Bysshe Shelley

    Sweet dreams. xxx

  155. Rakhee — on 11th May, 2006 at 9:27 am  

    Jay - how funny is that!? What a fabulous character Mr Banbrook is. Not only is he a racist bigot, he’s also a letcherous pervert. You’ve made my day with this one.

    Amir - thanks, you romantic fool.

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