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  • Hitchens vs Galloway - who cares!?

    by Sunny
    18th September, 2005 at 4:34 am    

    Don’t know about you guys, but the big debate between Christopher Hitchens and George Galloway has bored the hell out of me. Hopes that it would be sophisticated discussion that would raise interesting points for discussion are now dashed.

    Galloway, supremely opportunistic and is about the only person likely to believe his own hyperbole (possibly). Hitchens on the other hand reckons he’s the posterboy for a new generation of ‘progressives’ that were right in supporting this phony war in Iraq because they were out to ‘liberate’. In the end, all they did was swear at each other and compare dick sizes. What a surprise.

    Nav Purewal and Angry Arab have some good analysis. Harry’s Place and Popinjays have also been covering it extensively. Don’t know why you bothered guys.

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    1. Spirit of 1976 — on 18th September, 2005 at 9:12 am  

      I’m inclined to agree. I’ve left my own view on the debate/bitchfight here.

    2. leon — on 18th September, 2005 at 1:27 pm  

      Watching Galloway is always funny but yeat it means so very little and Hitchens is a prick anyway; they could have altleast got someone better for this…

    3. Spirit of 1976 — on 18th September, 2005 at 3:03 pm  

      Ultimately it’s just a battle of egos. Admittedly it was entertaining to watch them slug it out, but it really didn’t amount to more than entertainment.

    4. Al-Hack — on 18th September, 2005 at 5:42 pm  

      True Spirit, it seems to be egotistical. Having read up on this now, don’t see what the fuss was all about. Both Galloway and Hitchens seem to make up facts to suit them.

    5. Guvnor — on 18th September, 2005 at 7:23 pm  

      Galloway needs shooting! The less I hear him say the better it is. Bloody Commi!

    6. Siddharth — on 18th September, 2005 at 11:32 pm  

      Hey I’m in agreement with all you guys. Thanks to Spirit for the Jon Stewart link. Between the two of them, Galloway and Hitchens seemed to generate a small oil slick of sleazy self promotion.

    7. Kulvinder — on 19th September, 2005 at 4:12 am  

      It was utter shite. Complete and utter shite. Two demigod, self promoting walruses each representing the ‘real left.’ I say the following with utter contempt, they both displayed the panache of seasoned politicians playing to their party faithful. As the insults grew and each attempted to passive-aggresively out insult the other i was left in complete bemusement.

      What was the point?

      Ah but then it dawned on me, the preachers having raised the hackles of their supporters retreated to their respective corners, groupies lapping at their feet gwaffing at the utter idiocy of the opposition and the intellylectural superimiority of their prophets. With gleaming eyes they took out their pens, and wait for it…signed copies of their latest books.

      So THATS the left huh? Hear the new visionaries! the sons of socialism! come all ye faithful! tickets 20 dolla! 30 dolla! 40 dolla! buy the personally signed bibles of the tsars comrade! this is America buddy, we’re all capitalists now.

      I defy anyone to tell me the whole thing didn’t amount to anything more than a marketing gimmick designed to raise the blood pressure of idiots and part them with their money.

      For what its worth i reject the dichotomy of both prophets. If Galloway and his like are apologists of tyrants and murderous psychopaths then Hitchens and his rabble appear to believe its all ok if the ends justify the means.

      I opposed the war in Iraq, i still oppose the war in Iraq and i will continue to speak out against it because it was shown to be based on nothing less than a conspiracy theory. We did not go to war to free the Iraqi people. I don’t have an intrinsic problem with kicking despots and neither does the majority of the populous. Millions of people did not march around the world against invading afghanistan. Having said that I do not in anyway condone the actions of the iraqi insurgents. I hope, wish and pray that Iraq does get a peaceful and successful democracy as soon as possible.

      I cannot and will not allow a government to whitewash its own justifications and say the ends justify the means, to do so would allow any successive executive to do whatever it wished without anyone being answerable. I cannot and will not accept that an evil decapitator of innocent people is in someway ‘good’ for iraq or that Saddam Hussein wasn’t that bad a chap.

      There is nothing contradictory about that.

      America can keep Galloway and Hitchens, if there are people idiotic enough to want to pay to hear them and buy their whorish merchandise let them, it keeps them away from us.

    8. Siddhartha — on 19th September, 2005 at 11:17 am  

      Yeah but you know the ‘New Left’ and the Right have run of anti-War ideas because all they can focus on is the despicability of Galloway. Check out the feed at Harry’s Place and Popinjays. The wankers are jostling to make the only point they have left to defend the war, and that is the assassination of Galloway’s character. Thats all they’ve got.

    9. Sunny — on 19th September, 2005 at 4:46 pm  

      Heh, well said Kulvinder.

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