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    And you thought our MPs were crooks

    by Rumbold on 21st July, 2008 at 5:43 pm    

    “India is to temporailly release six jailed MPs to take part in a crucial vote next week that could seal the fate of the government. The MPs – including murderers and and an extortionist – are to spend two days out of jail on bail as Prime Minister, Manmohan Singh scrambles for support for a tight no-confidence vote on July 22 .

    The vote was called after 59 communist MPs withdrew support from Mr Singh’s Congress Party-led federal coalition over a contentious civilian nuclear deal with the United States. The release of the jailed MPs – five of whom are supporters of Mr Singh – are approved under longstanding constitutional provisions.”

    Two of the most charming are:

    “Mohammed Shahabuddin from the lawless eastern state of Bihar, who is serving a life term for killing a political opponent. His bail has been granted on the condition that he pays his expenses and those of his police escort. Another is Rajesh Ranjan, a fellow National Socialist Party MP also from Bihar, who was imprisoned for murdering a local trade unionist.”

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    15 Comments below   |  

    1. Dalbir — on 21st July, 2008 at 10:17 pm  

      The congress party involved in murder………..(gasp)

    2. fugstar — on 22nd July, 2008 at 12:43 am  

      comparing a country like the uk, which has had about 1000 years of political soverenty?!? with another that is 61 years old…

    3. persephone — on 22nd July, 2008 at 12:59 am  

      don’t anyone tell Boris Johnstone - he may seek to recruit them to fill a few gaps in his team

    4. Don — on 22nd July, 2008 at 2:12 am  

      61 years old…

      How long does it take to realise that a convicted killer is not a suitable legislator? Sixty two years?

    5. Gurpreet2 — on 22nd July, 2008 at 2:56 am  

      Murderous and Crooked Indian Politicians? Tell us something new please!

      Its an unwritten rule in India that as a Politican you can kill anyone that opposes you.

    6. fug — on 22nd July, 2008 at 8:34 am  

      Since independence the calibre of politicians in south asia has plummetted. before people didnt go into politics to make money like they do now in todays moronarchys.

      The society there didnt create and evolve its system of governance and politics upon its own terms in an uninterrupted continuous way like, say the UK. so its not like comparing like with like. They are running on someone elses engine, because ‘there is nothing better’ or other such captive commonsense.

      thats all.

      i think our UK MPs have a lot of blood on their hands in a more remote sense. An awful lot more and its a whole lot more disgusting because the stakes arent so high here, they just make war for greed even though things are comfortable.

    7. platinum786 — on 22nd July, 2008 at 9:03 am  

      Our politicians are more corrupt than your politicians.
      At least yours have never worked to bankrupt your country. Furthermore they are sent to prison knowing full well they will not be released if their party comes into power, as the judges have some say.

    8. justforfun — on 22nd July, 2008 at 10:09 am  

      India is leading the way ;-) The UK is falling behind - a truelly representative democracy should have a few murderers in its parliament. Swindlers & liars in the Lords and Commons is just not keeping up with the times.

      Seriously - its all about vote banks. If we, as individuals, start to allow ourselves to be defined by one issue or identity - then don’t be surprised if people on the make claim to represent you to and use this ‘claim’ to try and persuade others that your vote and others like you is ‘in the bag’. Then when in the future you show a bit of individaul thought, the men who had previously promised your vote lose face. As community politics is all about ‘face’ and false claims of legitemacy, they then send around the ‘muscle’ to make sure it doesn’t happen again.

      God help this country if it gets sub-continental communal politics here. Like rabies - there must be zero-tolerance. In the UK we need to bang up the vote riggers for life - as they are the thin end of the wedge to chaos and murder. Community service or a few months behind bars is not good enough - it needs to be 20 years minimum.


    9. Parvinder Singh — on 22nd July, 2008 at 10:54 am  

      Just moving the debate from crooked Indians politicians (nothing new there) to the vote in the Indian Parliament that’s taking place today which will determine which way India will go for the next decade, ie. closer to the US and at last being able to sort out its power problem by using Nuclear fuel offered by the US, future of the present Manmohan Singh government and the intransigence of Indian Left in moving India forward.

      This is D-Day folks

    10. justforfun — on 22nd July, 2008 at 11:21 am  

      Parvinder - you are quite correct - India is certainly at a fork in the road, and due to India’s sheer size , the planet is at a fork in the road.

      I have not read any good (reliable?)reviews eitherway on this issue. Anyone got any good links to comments and background on the issues involved?


    11. Parvinder Singh — on 22nd July, 2008 at 11:38 am  

      The Times and Guardian have a good intro on this crucial vote: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article4376999.ece

      For a more indepth look at the issues try: http://www.tehelka.com/story_main39.asp?filename=Ne260708cover.asp

      The vote today takes place 6pm Indian time so that’s 13.30 GMT

      You can get live webcast of the Parliamentary debate from NDTV: http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/default.aspx

    12. Parvinder Singh — on 22nd July, 2008 at 12:09 pm  

      BREAKING NEWS: All hell has broken out in the Indian Parliament which has just been adjourned amid scenes of BJP MPs waving wads of cash. Both BJP and CPI (M) are claiming 3 MPs have been offered bribes in order to abstain from today’s vote.

    13. Dave S — on 22nd July, 2008 at 12:11 pm  

      justforfun @ 8:

      a truelly representative democracy should have a few murderers in its parliament

      But we do have murderers in parliament in the UK! They may be slightly less direct about it, but they still have blood all over their hands.

      Incidentally, they’re not my MPs - never have been, never will be!

    14. Parvinder Singh — on 22nd July, 2008 at 4:03 pm  

      For those who are interested, the Manmohan Singh government has won the vote in the Lok Sabha parliament
      UPA (govt coalition): 275
      Opposition: 256

    15. Mangles — on 22nd July, 2008 at 5:11 pm  

      And they have won the vote (and opposition lost) with their respective integrities intact (not!). One is alleging that votes were being bought for 2.5 Crore rupees (approx £312,000) each and the other at 9 Crore rupees (approx £1.125M) each. If in a developing country a single vote cast by an MP is worth over a million times the daily income of an ordinary labourer- is this a good indicator of the true value of voting(LOL).

      More seriously though, if the figures are correct that’s equivalent to about £100M at UK earning rates. WOW!! What sort of flush funds do these ‘democratic’ parties have, and where does the money come from, if they are able to throw this sort of money around to try to oust/keep the governement in power?

      Is it any wonder why this the world’s largest democracy and one of the fastest growing economies still has 300,000,000 people still living in poverty? Now that’s playing with peoples lives and having blood on your hands; with thousands dying everyday from malnutrition, debt ridden farmers committing suicide and children having to abandon their education to help bring food to the table.

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