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  • Black cheerleaders not welcome

    by Rohin
    22nd May, 2008 at 7:26 pm    

    The Indian Premier League has invited cheerleaders from overseas to add a bit of US-style razzmatazz (read: flesh) to the matches. Two British girls were turned away just before going on stage during a match at Mohali. They were told the crowd don’t want to see black people, only beautiful white girls. The company responsible denies racism and says they will investigate when a formal complaint is made. The two girls did eventually get to perform. [Link]

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    1. Jonah — on 22nd May, 2008 at 7:58 pm  

      Bit like the way the likes of the “BBC” like to hire and over-represent so called “ethnic minorities” to fron the TV “news” and weather.

    2. Gege — on 22nd May, 2008 at 8:47 pm  

      I hear this sort of stuff happens regularly in India. Apparently such thinking is prevalent amongst certain british groups.

    3. Billy — on 22nd May, 2008 at 9:08 pm  

      Jonah sure “loves” his quotation “marks”.

    4. Uma — on 22nd May, 2008 at 9:22 pm  

      And you are really surprised by racism in India?

    5. Anas — on 22nd May, 2008 at 9:42 pm  

      black cheerleaders are always welcome round mine.

    6. fugstar — on 22nd May, 2008 at 9:54 pm  

      thats just so funny it couldnt have been made up.

    7. Inders — on 22nd May, 2008 at 10:27 pm  

      gege said:

      “I hear this sort of stuff happens regularly in India. Apparently such thinking is prevalent amongst certain british groups. ”

      That is bull. British Asians are used to dealing with all sorts of people on a daily basis and are well versed in the importance of getting along with others.

      Indians in India although members of a religiously and culturally diverse society aren’t really used to dealing with people of different races.

      Your comparison is based on some sort of idea where people of Indian extraction will act in the similar ways no matter what environment they have grown up and lived in. There is a word beginning with R and ending with -ist which describes that group of ideas.

    8. douglas clark — on 22nd May, 2008 at 10:27 pm  

      Anas at six,

      black cheerleaders are always welcome round mine

      What about white cheerleades? Whilst I’d probably fail to meet your definition -

      black cheerleaders are always welcome round mine

      I’d have thought I’m largely on your side. Given that I think you are complete utter arse on the the I/P stuff.

    9. Gege — on 22nd May, 2008 at 10:31 pm  

      Inders, i never said all indians would act in the same way regardless of their circumstances.

      I was just pointing out that in Britain,we also have such problems.

    10. Inders — on 22nd May, 2008 at 10:34 pm  

      I’ve never heard of black cheerleaders being turned away from cricket matches in the UK.

    11. Sunny — on 22nd May, 2008 at 10:34 pm  

      Bit like the way the likes of the “BBC” like to hire and over-represent so called “ethnic minorities” to fron the TV “news” and weather.


    12. Rohin — on 22nd May, 2008 at 10:53 pm  

      Sunny, don’t you mean:


      Inders, I’ve never heard of cheerleaders at cricket matches in the UK. And damn bloody right…disgusting idea.

      Angry in Tunbridge Wells.

    13. Raul — on 22nd May, 2008 at 10:59 pm  

      This is beyond stupid. I mean what were the officials who presumably made this outrageous demand thinking. But its important to remember the whole crowd did not boo the cheerleaders like some of the unfortunate incidents involving black football players. At the moment its some fathead who needs be dealt with asap.

      But there needs to be outrage about this sort of behavior, this is a deeper issue in Indian society and the attitudes that are prevalent in regard to caste, race, colour. But this is not the topic to discuss it.

    14. digitalcntrl — on 23rd May, 2008 at 12:43 am  

      Beyond the idiocy of this racist organizer, the article states tht crowd was receptive to the black cheerleaders.

      Issues of skin color in India are far more subtle than over here.

    15. Anas — on 23rd May, 2008 at 12:49 am  

      u think i’m complete arse on I/P, douglas? that hurts :(

    16. douglas clark — on 23rd May, 2008 at 4:55 am  


      In the sense that you see purity in your arguement. That you reject alliances with folk that see things much, but not exactly, as you do. To be honest, I think the I/P thing is the most polarising debate that there ever was. Compromise is not an option in that debate, and where I’d agree with Avi Cohen - the likes of Harry’s Place revel in it. Finger pointing, blame culture bullshit.

      Look in the mirror mate. You are the other side of that debate.

      Uncompromising, unable to see beyond your own position.

      Which is what is entirely wrong with the I/P conflict. And why I tend to stand back from it.

      There is little or no chance of a solution whilst both sides are thurled to their own agenda of grievance. It has struck me as ludicrous, ever since the Northern Ireland debacle, that we are obliged to go through a killing spree, up and until, sense, eventually, prevails. Needless deaths on both sides, whilst intellectual positions are held. Until they are abandoned. Can you not see the sterile and inhumane nature of that sort of game? Because that is what it is. A fucking game. A game where the chips are the numbers of deaths that your side, or their side, are willing to tolerate.

      I am for attempting to short circuit that process, which is quite evident in Iraq too. What I have tried to argue for, to little or no effect it must be said, is that compromise is the outcome and that prevaricating on the rightness of any position just implies that intellectuals are quite happy to see deaths as a means.

      Sorry, that’s how I see it. Apart from that I think you are an ace guy :-(

    17. Desi Italiana — on 23rd May, 2008 at 5:29 am  

      Everyone overseas (outside of Desi Land, that is) has been paying attention to the cheerleaders during the IPL matches, but I’ll be honest: my eyes have been feasting on the players. Sweaty brown men are nice to look at.

    18. Anas — on 23rd May, 2008 at 12:06 pm  

      This is not the place to discuss this, Douglas, and obviously I would say this, but I think you’ve got me dead wrong (pardon the pun). In fact I wish you’d actually challenged what I’d wrote on one of the threads discussing I/P directly, it’s hard to defend yourself against a general perception.

      For me it’s the most obvious thing in the world that there is no solution for I/P without compromise on both sides — so I’m not sure what you mean by calling me uncompromising. Yes, I do tend to criticise Israel more than I do, say, Hamas, but that’s only because I think morally and legally it bears greater responsibility for the situation. Would you attack someone who had taken a similarly ‘weighted’ attitude against aparthied in South Africa, the civil rights movement in the US, or to go back even futher back against colonial rule in India; or to take more modern examples who argued for the Tibetan cause in China, or for the Darfurians? It’s the easiest thing in the world to assume a posture of neutrality, but when the situation is as asymmetric as I/P, when the onus is clearly more on one side than the other (I’ll give you a clue it’s the country that’s occupying and annexing the other), then this fake neutrality is anything but morally courageous in fact it becomes very dubious.

      Anyway, if you want to discuss this further feel free to email me. I don’t know if you have my address, if not just leave a message on my blog, or even comment on this post I wrote in 2006 which still holds true, imo:

      One of the things I like about PP is that I do *sometimes* get the chance to discuss such issues in a relatively civil way with people I disagree with, and I welcome this.

    19. Desi Italiana — on 23rd May, 2008 at 1:26 pm  

      Well said, Anas jaan.

    20. Anas — on 23rd May, 2008 at 1:33 pm  

      Cheers Desi :)

    21. muhamad [pbum] — on 23rd May, 2008 at 8:24 pm  

      Inders @ 7
      Yeah, and what do you think the dalits/adivashis are in India?

    22. dave bones — on 25th May, 2008 at 10:32 am  

      There is a lot of bad feeling against blacks in India. An ex of mine got rocks thrown at her and refused from guesthouses all over Rhajistan. She started wearing a punjabi dress which didn’t help at all. Her grandad went to watch India vs The West Indies twice. Both times they had to be escorted everywhere and got oranges and bananas chucked at them from all sides.

    23. douglas clark — on 25th May, 2008 at 12:53 pm  



      You are quite right that this is not the right thread for this discussion, sorry Rohin :-( . I’ll leave a comment on you own blog, later today. We can take it from there, if you like.

      Good to see you posting here again, btw.

      One of the things I like about PP is that I do *sometimes* get the chance to discuss such issues in a relatively civil way with people I disagree with, and I welcome this.

      I agree with that sentiment completely. You have certainly become one of the most civil commentators on here. And that is not a back handed compliment!

    24. Andrew — on 28th May, 2008 at 1:15 pm  

      Sorry campers, but this article is spot on. India is racist enough to make your eyes water.

      I am white and have frequently been subjected to racist views about black people from Indain locals who assume that I will share them. I have also been denied hotel rooms when travelling in India with my Indian wife, basically because the owners disapproved of our being together.

      Before anyone starts quacking on about racist white people - I agree, they are - but its not relevant here. Two wrongs don’t make a right. Indians as a group are disgustingly racist - particularly towards the women of other races, who they talk about and often treat, as virtual prostitutes.

      No excuses please. If you don’t like being subjected to racism, at least have the moral consistency not to dish it out. Time to clean house people.

    25. RajiTheHarryApe — on 3rd June, 2008 at 3:47 pm  

      This thread makes one ask a question:

      Why are these people so obsessed with African people?

      I find it laughable that people:

      Who share the dinner on their plates with rats

      Who need assistance to pick up a loaf of bread at the store

      Whose women have more body hair than African men

      Whose men have just as much body hair as Apes

      Whose women have eyes that are bigger than an owl

      would have this abnormal obsession with Africans, blacks, etc.

      Is it to make up for all of the above?

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