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    Finally some positive news on British immigrants

    by Sunny on 7th September, 2005 at 4:46 pm    

    The Institute of Public Policy and Research today published a detailed picture of Britain’s diverse immigrant society, which is explained in more detail by the BBC. It looks primarily at immigrants born abroad and turns up a few interesting stats.

    • Immigrants made up 7.5% of the total population in 2001 compared to 5.7% in 1991.
    • 41 per cent of immigrants are based in London, making up 25 per cent of the capital’s population.
    • No immigrant group constitutes a majority anywhere in the UK.

    Nick Pearce, ippr Director said:

    The standard classifications of Britain’s ethnic minorities are obsolete. In the last fifteen years Britain has become much more diverse. It is now home to communities from every corner of the globe. London is hyper-diverse, a world city in every sense.

    Many new immigrant communities are doing well. But others are doing badly. This report gives a fine-grained analysis to underpin integration strategies. We must stop any community getting left behind.

    Some key findings from the BBC site:
    People born abroad as % of total: 4.55 (1971) 5.14(1981) 5.75(1991) 7.53(2001)

    In London: 1.7m people born outside Britain were living in London in 2001; 25% of the city’s population was born abroad, up 6% on 1991; 52% of people in Wembley were born abroad – 18,258 people.

    Bangladeshis: They are the lowest of the low-earning new immigrants. “But this has a lot to do with the jobs they tend to come to, and there are improvements over time,” the BBC site says.

      Top non-UK birth places in 2001
    • Republic of Ireland: 494,850
    • India: 466,416
    • Pakistan: 320,767
    • Germany: 262,276
    • Caribbean: 254,740
    • USA: 155,030
    • Bangladesh: 154,201
    • South Africa: 140,201
    • Kenya: 129,356
    • Italy: 107,002

    There is a brief summary on this BBC news story.

    Minister tony McNulty said the immigration situation was a complex one with people leaving as well as entering the UK.

    We need the numbers that the country needs for economic success. The notion that the answer to any difficulties we have is to pull up a drawbridge and say no one else is allowed… is complete nonsense.

    Predictably, the chest-beater friends of the BNP, Migrationwatch, weren’t too happy that the number of immigrants weren’t as inflated as they usually make out to be. Or that immigrants seem to be doing well for themselves.

    Migrationwatch’s Sir Andrew Green said: “We believe there is a growing realisation that immigration simply cannot continue at these levels. He said the government was “riding roughshod over the views of the public”.

    Oh please! Someone give the man a slap.

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    1. rizwand — on 7th September, 2005 at 5:10 pm  


      Migrationwatch makes the valid point that unchecked growth can be destabilising.

      The fact is that we are not there yet and in fact, it is unlikely to become a real issue. To simply extrapolate current trends is a fools game. Old biology text books used to extrapolate population growth in countries and talk of a Malthusian disaster. It didn’t happen. Like many things in nature, population also has a feedback loop which takes things toward a natural equilibirum.

      In fact, in the UK, popluation growth has already slowed considerably, and while immigration is playing an increasingly important role in overall population growth the UK population is facing another problem. It is ageing due to both fewer births and lower mortality rates and immigration - this is the heart of the impending pensions crisis. Immigration is likely augmenting population growth in a beneficial way, by adding more workers to the labour force.

      Also, here are some facts to suggest we are getting a better type of immigrant:

      * In 2004 62% of new immigrants were in employment versus 49% in 1994.

      * The Black & White study shows that nationalities who come to the UK seeking work rather than refuge tend to do better economically. Importantly, Home Office statistics show a decline in asylum seeker applications in recent years. (In Q2 2005 applications were down 21% versus Q2 2004). This suggests the UK is getting a better type of immigrant from an economic perspective, morality aside.

      * The economic impact of immigration is widely thought to be slightly positive but close to neutral. However, this won’t stop the media from having a field with the data!

      * Immigration in action - If you want any manual work done (plasterers, truck drivers etc) you could do much worse than to employ one of the new wave of hard working Polish immigrant workers! Migrationwatch says of immigration in the UK, “This pattern exacerbates the already heavy pressure on transport, housing, education and health services.” Umm, I thought these were all key areas which attract immigrants in the first place. You could actually argue that immigrants are helping to alleviate these pressures by offering a better mix of salary/hard work to their employers!

    2. Sunny — on 7th September, 2005 at 6:29 pm  

      Rizwan - I disagree. Immigration has to be managed well, which this government really hasn’t done. I think we should do it like America- have citizenship tests, English language classes, and some basic lessons on English values and what the country can offer.

      Instead people come here, find a hostile population, and quickly become disillusioned. And then the problems start.

      Even then, there is no evidence to suggest that immigration in the past has led to major problems - apart from those stirred up by right-wing groups, or anything more excessive than normal.

      Migrationwatch frequently twist stats to suit their own agenda.

    3. rizwand — on 7th September, 2005 at 6:51 pm  

      disagree…with what? ….I think immigration has to managed well also. I just find most media spin on the issue to be too negative.

    4. Jay Singh — on 7th September, 2005 at 9:06 pm  

      I am surprised at the number of Germans who are migrating here - wonder why so many Germans are attracted to the UK. I have to say I have hardly noticed a large German influx - and a fair few Americans too - interesting statistics.

    5. Edward — on 8th September, 2005 at 12:32 pm  

      I’m not really in favour of citizenship tests. I read some crappy manual produced for immigrants on citizenship a while ago (can’t recall the name or source unfortunately) and frankly most of the views expressed there did not accord with my own.

      That in itself is not a test of the manual’s validity, of course, but it goes to show that what one person considers to be essential knowledge for citizens does not necessarily accord with the views of the next man.

      And I find it a trifle patronising to go ramming - supposedly standard - values down others’ throats anyway.

      What really irritates me about the immigration issue is how people who live in this country forget our history.

      Britain is founded upon immigration. Wave after wave of successive immigrants, from the start of Britain’s history, have made this country what it is.

      The process continues. Society evolves. It’s how it’s always happened. It is not a threat to our way of life - it is our way of life; it’s what makes our society dynamic.

      I wonder if citizenship lessons, outlining this aspect of our history, should be given to those already resident in this country, rather than to immigrants who move here?

    6. shabeena — on 7th April, 2006 at 6:41 pm  

      Just to say on your site you should comment and test people about what their views are about this issue by the way i am 15 Years old tomorrow.

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