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  • Sharia courts investigative survey

    by Rumbold
    23rd August, 2011 at 9:16 am    

    IKWRO, a charity dedicated to helping women of Middle Eastern origin escape domestic/’honour-based violence, is conducting an survey into the experiences of Muslim women who use the courts to settle family disputes. Sunny has written on Sharia courts in the past, and the issues surrounding them.

    It is for staff in organisations which have advised women who have used or considered using Muslim Arbitration Tribunals or Islamic Sharia Councils to resolve family disputes.

    The aim of the survey is twofold, as it seeks to discover:

    1. The experiences of women using Muslim Arbitration Tribunals and Islamic Sharia Councils to resolve family disputes.

    2. The level of experience and knowledge about Muslim Arbitration Tribunals and Islamic Sharia Councils among the women’s sector, and the sector’s information needs.

    Relevant individuals can take the survey here.

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    1. Refresh — on 23rd August, 2011 at 9:40 am  

      This is truly idiotic. But seems to be par for the course given that Gert Wilder’s Baroness Cox pushed for a change in the law and nobody questioned her rhetoric or her figures. Come to think of it, I don’t recall any figures quoted at all.

      And now this, an online survey.

      Rumbold, tell IKWRO from me that this is an incredibly pathetic effort to gather data. IF they were serious they would treat the survey seriously, and they would already know who and which organisations to approach.

      This is not the sort of survey to be run by the tabloids.

      And if it is down to finding the funds to do the survey. Then go find the money, don’t go round creating hooks for assortedd racists.

    2. Rumbold — on 23rd August, 2011 at 9:49 am  


      IF they were serious they would treat the survey seriously, and they would already know who and which organisations to approach.

      They are trying to get the survey out to as wide a group as possible- I do not see what is wrong with this approach. They are attempting to gather information about a little known and controversial topic. Given your critique of Baroness Cox, I thought you would have been happy to see IKWRO trying to get s accurate a picture as possible.

    3. Refresh — on 23rd August, 2011 at 10:34 am  


      Yes gather the information but do it so the data is credible. Whan has anyone taken an online survey seriously?

      From what I know of organisations operating in this sphere, it shouldn’t be difficult to get it out through the usual channels.

      Yes they will certainly get it out to a wide range of people. The question then will be how will they handle the data? How will they sift out the malicious from the genuine?

      Tell them straight, it will take a far greater effort sorting out the received data. And still not get it right. And presumably they will then publicise their findings or hand them over to the Baroness.

      The debate then will shift to methodology.

      I don’t doubt, given the climate of cuts in the voluntary sector, this will also be used to create an argument for more funding.

      Tell them Rumbold, its a recipe for disaster and it will not contribute anything towards their own reputation.

      And if they are genuinely interested in doing it properly, and need assistance then let them know there is help at hand.

    4. platinum786 — on 23rd August, 2011 at 3:56 pm  

      A great idea, but a silly method to collect the data.

      Firstly, surely it would be better to also approach the people who decided to go to the shariah courts?

      Secondly, it’s an online Survey with no method of verifying the data within it is accurate. I just filled one out. Whats to say others with an agenda won’t do so either. Take the example of the fat man voted the publics choice to become a next model.

    5. Refresh — on 23rd August, 2011 at 4:08 pm  

      I would also add that they are not the right people to collect the data as they have already prejudged the situation, going by their website.

    6. Sarah AB — on 23rd August, 2011 at 4:26 pm  

      I think (because of agendas on both sides) one might want to approach any *statistics* the survey threw up with scepticism - but the results might offer some specific information about particular courts, trends or cases, which could be verifed and which might be useful.

    7. Refresh — on 23rd August, 2011 at 4:36 pm  

      Sarah AB, you are wrong.

      What it will throw out is a lot of heat and very little light.

      What is needed is a survey of the different ways domestic violence is reported and dealt with. That would include reporting it directly to the police, going to a trusted party (a mutual friend perhaps, or family member, community, church, religious elders), a tribunal.

      The police have not always been the best players in the domestic violence charade. Safe to say women, in general, do not report the crime the first time it happens, its usually as a last resort. And they still fail them.

      What’s needed is a broad analysis so we can establish what works. It seems IKWRO are not up to the task.

    8. Kismet Hardy — on 23rd August, 2011 at 4:49 pm  

      I know someone who escaped an abusive ‘union’ (which remained abusive thanks to the shariah law telling her to go back to him because they’d gave him a ticking off, then again, when she finally broke free, being told asking for a divorce settlement was unislamic). I’m sure when she was in her private little hell, answering an online survey would’ve felt like much of a release…

    9. Don — on 23rd August, 2011 at 5:59 pm  

      The point has already been made, but I agree that on-line polls/ surveys are worse than useless.They cannot possibly produce reliable results, are ridiculously easy to skew and can end up being mistaken for evidence, thereby degrading the discourse.

    10. Rumbold — on 23rd August, 2011 at 9:20 pm  

      Refresh (and others):

      Well the survey does contain a section where the respondent puts information about their organisation, which would act as a cross check (against say charity/company records). I do share you concerns about any survey and the accuracy involved, though this isn’t an attempt to work out precise percentages but rather to get a feel of what is involved.


      I will pass on your points to IKWRO.

    11. Refresh — on 23rd August, 2011 at 9:38 pm  


      ‘I will pass on your points to IKWRO.’


      ‘though this isn’t an attempt to work out precise percentages but rather to get a feel of what is involved.’

      Why have they presented a position, and then sought evidence to back it up in such a crass manner? How can they be trusted with the ‘feel’ of it? It sounds like they are seeking to provide Baroness Cox with something that can pass for facts.

      I have only ever been one step removed from the coalface of tackling domestic violence for the last three decades, and I am appalled at what IKROW are trying to do. This could easily appear to be an attempt to use the genuine plight of extremely vulnerable women to strike a blow for Wilders’ Cox and the EDL-ites.

    12. LibertyPhile — on 24th August, 2011 at 4:18 pm  

      In general a survey based on a self-selecting sample is highly dubious and misleading research (as has been pointed out above).

      The mitigating factor in this case is that the universe being sampled may not be that big in relation to the sample achieved. How many organisations are we talking about?

      So as long as IKWRO gets a significant number of completed online questionnaires, more than 5-10% of the universe, say, then they are producing something useful even if it requires qualification. They should be given every encouragement.

      It would be interesting to know (and another check on the value of their research) how they are “recruiting” respondents and what they know about the universe being sampled?

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