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  • Sweden draws up plans to fight ALL sorts of extremism

    by Sunny
    6th August, 2011 at 10:44 am    

    Looks like Sweden has woken up from its one-dimensional approach to extremism:

    Stockholm - Sweden has drawn up a plan to fight extremism in response to attacks in neighbouring Norway that killed 77 people last month, government ministers wrote in an opinion piece published Friday.

    They identified the fringes of three extremist groups as the most dangerous: the white-power far-right, the far-left and Islamists.

    “We need to have a broad concept of violent extremism and not limit our line of vision,” Reinfeldt, Justice Minister Beatrice Ask and Democracy Minister Birgitta Ohlsson wrote in the Dagens Nyheter newspaper. “There are many similarities in the processes that lead individuals to use violence to reach political goals, regardless of the political or religious content of their extreme ideas,” they wrote.

    This is a much better approach than one that just focuses on Islamist extremists. Wonder if UK will now also take note.

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    1. sunny hundal

      Blogged: : Sweden draws up plans to fight ALL sorts of extremism

    2. Belinda Webb

      Blogged: : Sweden draws up plans to fight ALL sorts of extremism

    3. Phil Dickens

      Jesus. Stumbled upon Scumdal applauding Sweden including "the far-left" in its definition of "extremist": #facepalm

    4. Phil Dickens

      Jesus. Stumbled upon Scumdal applauding Sweden including "the far-left" in its definition of "extremist": #facepalm

    5. majsaleh

      Jesus. Stumbled upon Scumdal applauding Sweden including "the far-left" in its definition of "extremist": #facepalm

    6. sdv_duras

      Sunny Hyndal applauding Sweden's stupid inclusion of "the far-left" in its definition of extremist via @AKblackandred

    7. dominic

      Jesus. Stumbled upon Scumdal applauding Sweden including "the far-left" in its definition of "extremist": #facepalm

    1. Dr Paul — on 6th August, 2011 at 12:23 pm  

      I’m a Marxist which almost certainly makes me an ‘extremist’ in Ms Ohlsson’s eyes, and I’ve always felt that the battle of ideas in society should be fought out without resort to bans and proscriptions. I have often had arguments with fellow left-wingers who believe that the state should ban far-right organisations, saying aren’t we, wishing thoroughly to remould society, more of a threat to the status quo than the far right, and that asking for a state ban on fascists is asking for trouble for our side.

      What Ms Ohlsson is proposing should make left-wingers think again about calling for state bans upon the far right.

    2. Abraham Gold — on 6th August, 2011 at 12:29 pm  

      Clearly you are not aware of the highly organised Nazi networks that have existed in Sweden for years. During the eighties a number of them murdered police officers, and left wing activists, robbed banks for funds and Swedish army armouries for guns.

      The magazine and anti fascist network Searchlight has exposed their activities over a long period of time. I think you should do a little more reading. Islamism is the new fascism.

    3. Trofim — on 6th August, 2011 at 8:53 pm  

      These Nazi networks are pussycats in comparison with the Red Army Faction/Baader Meinhof:

    4. Abraham Gold — on 6th August, 2011 at 9:56 pm  

      Once again little difference between all of them. Common to all the belief that they have the truth and that they will impose it on others by force. Interestingly Horst Mahler one time leading member of the Red Army Fraction is now a nazi.

    5. BGB — on 6th August, 2011 at 10:37 pm  

      Yes, hopefully they will take note:
      1 - Islamic fundamentalists
      2 - second rate bloggers who purport not to sympathise with Islamic fundamentalists but do.
      3 - Irish terrorists.

      Works for us. Thanks for the tip!

    6. damon — on 7th August, 2011 at 9:45 am  

      They identified the fringes of three extremist groups as the most dangerous: the white-power far-right, the far-left and Islamists.

      Who knows where they could take this? The police in the UK aren’t known to be that sophistacated in their understanding of the different kinds of political groups and grouplets that exist. I was once questioed about being a part of a group that I had never had any contact with. But they do like to photograph everyone who turns up on a political demonstration - are they competent to make the right intelligence? I don’t have much faith in police getting these things right.
      Their modern tactic seems to just raid people’s homes and take away their computers.

      In Sweden they could label everyone on this demonstration as dangerous subversives. Harry’s Place seems to think they are some kind of fascists. I would say something different - and who knows what the cops make of it?

    7. Dr Paul — on 7th August, 2011 at 11:58 am  

      Re Abraham G’s comments: Does Sweden not have adequate laws to deal with the sort of criminal behaviour that you describe? Surely anyone engaging in such activities will be liable to have his collar felt.

    8. Abraham Gold — on 7th August, 2011 at 12:02 pm  

      Damon @6,

      The three types identified are correctly so in my view. All espouse some form of violent overthrow of the existing order and the imposition of what they believe to be a more appropriate one.

      All are totally undemocratic and espouse some form of statism that has previously failed or is doing so at the moment.

      The far left look to the former Soviet Union, China, Cuba or any other number of repressive failed experiments in workers paradises.

      The far right hark back to Hitler’s Germany or Mussolini’s Italy. The Islamists seek a Muslim theocratic state which will usher in a utopia whether we want it or not.

      All in all not much difference. Yes, Dr Paul, you are an extremist because the only way you will win your battle of ideas is with the secret police, gulags, starvation and war which is all your kind have ever brought us.

    9. TORY — on 8th August, 2011 at 1:18 am  

      One wonders if you ever provide evidence the UK government, police and security services do not pay attention to far-right extremism.

    10. Frank — on 8th August, 2011 at 8:27 am  

      Why is the Swedish model better? What evidence do you have that it is better? This is purely based on your assumptions, not evidence.

      The point is that the police and security services are looking out for far-right attacks and have disrupted several. More over, there are processes in place and schools, colleges etc to address racism and bigotry.

      The problem with Islamist extremism is that those processes currently don’t exist, hence the need for Prevent etc.

      Moreover, MI5 consistently tell us that there is an organised threat from al-Qaeda and other Islamist terrorist groups whereas there is a small (but real) risk of individuals carrying out violent attacks inspired by far-right violence.

      As you (should, but probably don’t) know, there is bugger all that can be done about lone-wolf terrorism, be that far-right or whatever.

      So, you are proposing diverting efforts from the primary threat to our security to attempt to address something we have no absolutely no track record of being able to curb (lone-wolf, in this case far-right) attacks and to duplicate the already good work which is being done to challenge racism.

      You make absolutely no sense.

    11. persephone — on 8th August, 2011 at 11:24 pm  

      As to UK - since its classed as domestic extremism ie a threat to public order, but not to national security then its normally investigated by the police, not the Security Service. And the police appear to only see thru’ the one type of terrorism window. Perhaps it/police should be led/overseen by security personnel who have a better grasp of all extremist groups.

      But the new research, information and communication unit, [RICU]appears to be targetting muslim extremism

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