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  • Death of Shahbaz Bhatti

    by Rumbold
    3rd March, 2011 at 11:10 am    

    Earlier in the week Shahbaz Bhatti, a Christian member of the Pakistani government, was murdered because of his support for a Christian woman facing execution and for his desire to reform the blasphemy law. He became the second high profile politician to be killed following the murder of Salman Taseer earlier in the year. As Pakistani blogger Raza Rumi put it at Pak Tea House:

    It is time for Pakistan’s political parties to take stock of this situation and get their own ideological house in order before they are wiped out as well. Pakistani state organs have been appeasing the Right and Islamofasicsts for too long. It is time to stand up. If they think they can be safe then they ARE WRONG.

    PTH condemns this murder and recalls that Pakistan was not created for this violence and bigotry that is now our halmark and has made us a joke in the international community. Taseer’s murderers have to be booked, Benazir Bhutto’s murderers have to be brought to book and Bhatti’s murder should not go to waste. Wake up Pakistan and our appeal to Pakistanis: stand up for your rights for living in a secure, tolerant society.

    Liberals and secularists are becoming an endangered species in Pakistan.

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    1. KJB — on 3rd March, 2011 at 2:53 pm  

      Well, looking at the Islamist infiltration on the prior thread - and that’s just ON THE INTERNET - sadly, a toxic political climate is going to endure in Pakistan where these unbelievably deranged and self-righteous people have forced everyone down to their level.

    2. cjcjc — on 3rd March, 2011 at 3:03 pm  

      The low number of comments on this thread so far I suspect reflects the fact that most people (certainly this applies to myself) simply feel full of despair with no idea as to how things might play out.

    3. llm — on 3rd March, 2011 at 3:44 pm  

      Talebans are descendants of pigs and apes. They admit it in Quran. They’ve too much hair all over to be human.

    4. boyo — on 3rd March, 2011 at 3:44 pm  

      Oh I always have an answer… not :-0

    5. platinum786 — on 3rd March, 2011 at 11:20 pm  

      It’s a real shame that another politican has been killed, for holding an opinion, as is suspected right now.

      There is somewhat of an irony to all this though. It’s politicians who allow intolerance and don’t challenge extremism, as most of them live their VIP lives with police protection.

      Pakistani society as a whole is not a society where this kind of thing is acceptable or normal. Just today I was watching a program on ARY news about a catholic church and a Masjid next door to each other in Peshawar. They get along just fine.

      The problem is, injustice is allowed to occur. A million people might live and let live with the congregation of that Church. It only takes 1 person to shoot the vicar or torch the place, and an injustice has occurred. A million people will tut and say what a terrible thing has happened, those million can do nothing. Those who can do something to bring justice to this situation, to prevent it from occurring again, are police and politicians. In Pakistan, both sides turn a blind eye against crime, unless you can grease their palms or victim has influence.

      Allowing injustice to continue and not tackling it, is what is feeding the fire. Terrorists are getting away with crime, all sorts of criminals are getting away with their crimes, and it’s burning society.

      The people of Pakistan voted in this government in free and fair elections. It’s the governments duty now surely to serve society.

    6. Boyo — on 4th March, 2011 at 11:23 am  

      I don’t have any solutions Platinum, but I will point out the logic of this:

      1. Islamists use terror to create a climate of fear
      2. Hey presto, they become the only people to deliver “justice”

      The rule is that the most ruthless extremists usually win, whether that be in Russia in 1917 or Northern Ireland, where the moderate parties on either side were squeezed to nothingness and the British ended up dealing with both sets of terrorists. Of course, the IRA didn’t literally win (because they had been beaten on the ground and lacked will and popular support) but I hope you won’t split hairs.

      The only remedy appears to be arguably worse than the cure - a violent and relentless crackdown by the government, backed by the military.

      The only alternative looks like (from my ill-informed position) the ultimate Talibanisation of the country in one form or another until it collapses under the weight of its own contradictions (hopefully not sparking a regional nuclear war). Sorry.

    7. platinum786 — on 5th March, 2011 at 1:51 pm  

      The country will never become talibanised. No thanks to anyone who has any interest in Pakistan, but thanks to the instinct for self preservation for all those at the top. What we will get though, is a long bloody road, that will make the current levels of carnage pale in comparrison.

      The day the political fuedals of Pakistan think the extremists are taking people from their clutches into their own, they will wage war using the tools of the state on extremists who operate in their territory.

      The days the generals decide that their livesw in ivory towers are being threatened by the Taliban, they will use the might of one of the largest militaries in the world.

      The day the sufi orientated mullahs decide their collection boxes are losin funds to extremists, they will come to the street and take up weapons if needed to protect their positions and status.

      Nobody will do anything for Pakistan or the Pakistani public. Until those in power are with status are unaffected by Talibanisation, to hell with Pakistan and it’s people.

    8. Dr Paul — on 5th March, 2011 at 2:57 pm  

      I asked this before in respect of Salman Taseer and I’ll ask it here in respect of Shahbaz Bhatti: what was his general political programme?

      I ask this as I do not know. I know about his opposition to the blasphemy act and his defence of those threatened by it — and these are acts that take great courage and principle in a place like Pakistan.

      But I feel that if opposition to religious obscurantism, however courageous, is not matched with an equally strong commitment to social justice and equality, that is, a commitment to overcoming the terrible poverty, ignorance, inequality and corruption that exist in Pakistan and which help to maintain religious obscurantism, then those political forces which promote extreme religious views will be able to associate secularism with social inequality and corruption.

    9. halima — on 5th March, 2011 at 4:32 pm  

      “Liberals and secularists are becoming an endangered species in Pakistan”.

      No, at at all, most of Pakistan and most people I have spoken to and know in Islamabad, Lahore and Karachi are deeply distressed about the assassination. It seems easy outside Pakistan to readily assert that liberal voices are disappearing, but I am afraid this isn’t the case.

    10. Kisan — on 6th March, 2011 at 7:50 am  

      From the wikipedia entry on Bhatti:

      President Zardari vowed to combat the forces of obscurantism, and said, “we will not be intimidated nor will we retreat.” The government declared three days of mourning. However, when the prime minister, Yousaf Raza Gillani, led a two-minute silence in parliament, three members of the Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam party remained seated. Muhammad Rafi Usmani, the grand mufti of Pakistan, referred to the possibility of the assassination being “an American conspiracy to defame the government of Pakistan, Muslims and Islam.”[15] The Pakistani delegate to the United Nations Human Rights Council, Asim Ahmad, said that it would not be right to link Bhatti’s murder to the issue of blasphemy. Ahmad said freedom of speech could not justify defamation and blasphemy; “It is important to prevent the deliberate campaign of defamation of Islam and its Prophet.”[16]

      1. Jamaatis deliberately disrespected the man after his death. Jamaat-e-Islam and its ideological brothers are the groups to blame for this atrocity.

      2. Pakistan at the foreign level seeks to spread their domestic blasphemy law to the international level. So instead of trying to bring this craziness under control the Pakistan Govt is instead try to spread their bigoted blasphemy laws to the whole world:

      In the rights council, Pakistan speaks for the 57-nation Organisation of Islamic States (OIC) which is campaigning hard with support from African states and others like Russia and Cuba for what critics dub “an international blasphemy law”.

      Ahmad said freedom of speech could not justify defamation and blasphemy. “It is important to prevent the deliberate campaign of defamation of Islam and its Prophet,” he said.


      By the way killing of critics of ‘prophet’ Muhammad as blasphemers goes all the way back to the holy days of the holiest of holies ‘prophet’ Muhammad himself. He ordered many of his critics / blasphemers slaughtered like Asma Bint Marwan. Such atrocious terrorism has helped secure the power of Islam and attract conversions from the early days of Islam:

      When the apostle heard what she had said he said, “Who will rid me of Marwan’s daughter?” `Umayr b. `Adiy al-Khatmi who was with him heard him, and that very night he went to her house and killed her. In the morning he came to the apostle and told him what he had done and he [Muhammad] said, “You have helped God and His apostle, O `Umayr!” When he asked if he would have to bear any evil consequences the apostle said, “Two goats won’t butt their heads about her”, so `Umayr went back to his people.

      Now there was a great commotion among B. Khatma that day about the affair of bint [daughter of] Marwan. She had five sons, and when `Umayr went to them from the apostle he said, “I have killed bint Marwan, O sons of Khatma. Withstand me if you can; don’t keep me waiting.” That was the first day Islam became powerful among B. Khatma; before that those who were Muslims concealed the fact. The first of them to accept Islam was `Umayr b. `Adiy who was called the “Reader”, and `Abdullah b. Aus and Khuzayma b. Thabit. The day after Bint Marwan was killed the men of B. Khatma became Muslims because they saw the power of Islam.

      This article expands on this phenomenom:

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