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  • Here is an interesting idea.

    by Katy
    27th March, 2007 at 3:36 pm    

    Or at least I thought it was. Look at this.

    Perhaps once we have winnowed out the future goodies, baddies and uglies in the coming generations, we could dress them in colour-coded clothes depending on their status. And maybe tattoo a barcode on them.

    I can’t wait to hear what the tests will consist of.

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    1. Kulvinder — on 27th March, 2007 at 3:55 pm  

      I was reading this, which is quite an interersting take on a holiday in North Korea, i had a minor epiphany on the DMZ page when the author wrote under the photograph

      ‘Main North Korean building facing border in JSA - notice the four cameras’

      And all i could think was, the North Koreans only put up four cameras on that building! I’d expect at least 20 in Britain.

      But yes Vive la police state. And its impossible to call the path the UK is taking anything other than a decent into a police state. If one definition of Utopia is a society where everyone lives in harmony, and a dystopia is a society under massive social control, then its pretty clear which path the government wants to take.

      But fikkar not, New Labour takes its laws seriously, they’ve set aside 20 mins one friday afternoon to discuss any legislation. Thats all they can spare given the volume of other laws that they want to bring in.

    2. Jagdeep — on 27th March, 2007 at 3:58 pm  

      What was the exact moment, do you think, when Tony Blair lost his senses? Can we pinpoint it? Don;t jsut say when he spent long nights wanking over Harry’s Place and decided to go to war — I think he was actually sane then, rational and believed all that stuff. But at some point, he actually lost his marbles and started coming out with stuff like this. Just look at his eyes — they have become slightly maniacal.

    3. Kulvinder — on 27th March, 2007 at 4:08 pm  

      Around late ’99. Thats when New Labour ran out of ideas. Ever since then its been a downward spiral of crappyness. The westminster system means theres always a natural degredation in government, the most capable MPs are put in ministerial positions at the start of term. When they fail the next best candidate is used, this process continues till you reach the point we’re at now (ie hitting rock bottom and scraping).

      Tony Blair is basically stuck in a position where he can’t admit defeat as he’d have to resign, so he just plows on saying hes right and starts getting lesser and lesser competence from the cabinet.

    4. Sid Love — on 27th March, 2007 at 4:10 pm  

      I thought it was the mutual masturbators on Harry’s Place who got off on Tony’s muscular chops and not vice versa.

    5. Jagdeep — on 27th March, 2007 at 4:11 pm  

      No Kulvinder, I think it was around the time when he realised the utter catastrophe of what he decided to do in Iraq, just recently — and he’s like Macbeth gone crazy with guilt.

    6. Jagdeep — on 27th March, 2007 at 4:12 pm  

      Yeah Sid I was just being mischievous with the reference to Hairy’s Place

      I think he was sane until a year ago.

    7. Kulvinder — on 27th March, 2007 at 4:18 pm  

      I don’t think he feels guilty though, neither he nor the Labour party probably even accept they were wrong. Theres a tendency to think the government of the day is purposely fucking everything up through malice. I accept that New Labour genuinely feel they’re doing the right thing, the problem is all the people they’re listening to to get feedback are sycophants or have their own self interest.

    8. Leon — on 27th March, 2007 at 4:18 pm  

      Isn’t this a policy he announced last year being re-furbed and introduced as new?

    9. Kulvinder — on 27th March, 2007 at 4:20 pm  

      nb number one in the self interest stakes is obviously the police, everyone wants their job to be easier and the police are no different. Theres an unfortunate tendency amongst some MPs to forget that making the life of the police ‘easier’ makes ours far far more difficult.

    10. Leon — on 27th March, 2007 at 4:20 pm  

      What was the exact moment, do you think, when Tony Blair lost his senses? Can we pinpoint it?

      I can pin point it exactly; it was the first interview he gave just after Sept 11 happened. I saw him on tv and he just looked scared shitless…

    11. Sid Love — on 27th March, 2007 at 4:23 pm  

      Is that the one where he’d just returned from a stay at Bush’s Texas ranch, and Paxman asked him, staright off the bat:
      “Did you pray together?”

      Oh how we laughed.

    12. Sid Love — on 27th March, 2007 at 4:30 pm  

      Don’t think Blair is crazy, more like a deep-seated personality disorder. Maybe he’s got something sociopathic, like Machiavellianism.

      Subject “fails to capture the emotional, cognitive and interpersonality traits - egocentricity, lack of remorse, empathy or guilt - that are so important in the diagnosis of psychopathy.”

      heh heh

    13. Sid Love — on 27th March, 2007 at 4:33 pm  

      Evensong at Crawford?

    14. sonia — on 27th March, 2007 at 4:33 pm  

      Hilarious! Waste more public money in asinine ways. What is it with Tony? I really am curious…I sure hope i don’t turn into such a paranoid freak if i become a parent ( or a Prime Minister heh heh)

      I would have been picked up by these ‘checks’ i bet! As will whole schoolbuses full of kids -ooh that will be fun!

      I wonder what Ewan Blair would think about this.. daddy wasn’t too pleased when he was in trouble!

      i’m with you Katy - i can’t wait to hear what the tests will consist of.

      tester: have you had homicidal urges
      angst-ridden teenager: all the time!

    15. ZinZin — on 27th March, 2007 at 4:38 pm  

      He has been watching Logans run.

      Jagdeep,Kulvinder this is just part of the law and order auction that started in 1994 when Blair was shadow home secretary. Michael Howard was then the Tory Home secretary.

    16. sonia — on 27th March, 2007 at 4:45 pm  

      well we’ll have to drag up the PM’s past - i bet any checks he proposes should have in theory picked him up when he was a kid. same goes for boyo smoking spliffs in eton. should be good fun - wait for headlines like ‘are these kids going to be future Prime Ministers? or just criminals?

      hyuk hyuk

    17. ZinZin — on 27th March, 2007 at 4:49 pm  

      Good point sonia
      Those rich kids do a lot of drink and drugs. Did anyone watch Peter Hitchens hatchet job on David Cameron last night? the Bullingdon club members of the future will be on this list.

    18. sonia — on 27th March, 2007 at 5:03 pm  

      ah yes the Bullingon club…

    19. Don — on 27th March, 2007 at 5:28 pm  

      ‘Your Machiavelli score is: 64
      You are a high Mach, you endorse Machiavelli’s opinions. ‘

      But I don’t! The test must be flawed. Really, trust me.

    20. Sunny — on 27th March, 2007 at 5:46 pm  

      Oh boy, the PM really has gone crazy.

    21. Chairwoman — on 27th March, 2007 at 5:53 pm  

      He was probably always insane. It first manifested itself when Diana, Princess of Wales died, and he clasped and unclasped his hands, his voice dripping with sincere insincerity.

    22. Clairwil — on 27th March, 2007 at 6:57 pm  

      Chairwoman is spot on. I saw a clip of that recently and it’s chilling. It’s just that no-one noticed because it was a situation where he couldn’t do any real harm.

    23. Sid — on 27th March, 2007 at 8:39 pm  

      Not the Paxman interview I remember, but almost as funny. Even

    24. Taj — on 27th March, 2007 at 8:52 pm  

      Got in there before me with the Logan’s Run reference, Zinzin. Needless to say, if this policy also includes a scantily-clad Jenny Agutter, then I wholeheartedly support it.

    25. William — on 27th March, 2007 at 10:20 pm  

      It should at least include a cricket test. If they are found to cheat at cricket at an early age then monitor them in case they turn out to be future theives. Or murderers of cricket coaches!

    26. William — on 27th March, 2007 at 10:24 pm  

      Taj #25

      They are doing a remake of Logan’s Run. Saw the old one recently. I wanted to lick Jenny Agutter’s thighs!!!

      Apologise for the digression.

    27. lithcol — on 27th March, 2007 at 11:25 pm  

      It’s a job creation scheme for all those useless psychology graduates produced every year.

    28. ZinZin — on 27th March, 2007 at 11:39 pm  

      It’s a job creation scheme for all those useless psychology graduates produced every year.

      Like those upthread?

      Is there a Jenny Agutter film in which she does not disrobe?

    29. lithcol — on 27th March, 2007 at 11:59 pm  


      If there is one I wouldn’t watch it. Yes there is at least one, The Railway Children.

    30. sonia — on 28th March, 2007 at 4:49 pm  

      Chairwoman and Clairwil - yep you’re right! when i watched the Queen I quite liked the film : the thing that was annoying was seeing that insincerity from Tony all over again.

    31. Adnan Y. — on 28th March, 2007 at 8:30 pm  

      Didn’t Straw’s son get in a spot of bother over cannabis, and Blair’s son for having too much of a drink? Just wondering, that’s all…

      National IDs, checking for kiddie kriminals…I’d love to be a fly on the wall for those meetings.

      Anyone else get the vibe we’re walking into something out of Ken Macleod’s “Star Fraction/Fall Revolution” series?

    32. soru — on 28th March, 2007 at 8:53 pm  
    33. soru — on 28th March, 2007 at 8:54 pm  

      bah close brackets - I meant Learning the world

    34. Adnan Y. — on 28th March, 2007 at 9:29 pm  

      Soru, give me the true knowledge as espoused by Ellen May Ngwethu*, any day! ;)

      *Cassini Division

    35. soru — on 28th March, 2007 at 10:00 pm  

      ‘Soru, give me the true knowledge’

      You ask, I comply:

      Life is a process of breaking down and using other matter, and if need be, other life. Therefore, life is aggression, and successful life is successful aggression. Life is the scum of matter, and people are the scum of life. There is nothing but matter, forces, space and time, which together make power. Nothing matters, except what matters to you. Might makes right, and power makes freedom. You are free to do whatever is in your power, and if you want to survive and thrive you had better do whatever is in your interests. If your interests conflict with those of others, let the others pit their power against yours, everyone for theirselves. If your interests coincide with those of others, let them work together with you, and against the rest. We are what we eat, and we eat everything.
      All that you really value, and the goodness and truth and beauty of life, have their roots in this apparently barren soil.

      This is the true knowledge.

      We had founded our idealism on the most nihilistic implications of science, our socialism on crass self-interest, our peace on our capacity for mutual destruction, and our liberty on determinism. We had replaced morality with convention, bravery with safety, frugality with plenty, philosophy with science, stoicism with anaesthetics and piety with immortality. The universal acid of the true knowledge had burned away a world of words, and exposed a universe of things.

      Things we could use

    36. Adnan Y. — on 28th March, 2007 at 10:19 pm  


    37. Taj — on 29th March, 2007 at 9:37 pm  

      Am I right in believing that Jenny Agutter waves around her underwear in The Railway Children? I suspect she’s not naked at the time, but I can only hope so.

    38. Taj — on 29th March, 2007 at 9:40 pm  

      I realise I’m venturing into pervy old man territory here. So I’m going to disguise it as an interrogation of the British psyche:
      “Jenny Agutter: the English rose gone wrong. Discuss.”

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