Saddam Snuffed

Woke up this morning to the news, flooding the news channels, that Saddam Hussein has been hanged in Iraq. There’s even an accompanying snuff movie of the execution (linked off the BBC page above) for all you who get off on a bit of gallows pornography.

So that’s Augusto Pinochet and Saddam Hussein down in the same month.

Who do you think deserves to feel the rope next?

Top of the list is, of course, sexy Henry Kissinger, who deserves an ICC hearing at the very least.

256 Responses to “Saddam Snuffed”

  1. andrew morris Says:

    … and so little mention in all this (save for a brief allusion on Channel 4) on the role we played in building up Saddam. Come to think of it, very little either on the way we built up Pinochet. I agree that Kissinger needs to go next, surely the most undeserving Nobel Laureate ever. Would there be room for Bush and Blair who have made of Iraq a far worse place than Saddam ever managed to?

  2. Lars Andersen Says:

    You forgot Turkmenistan’s Niyazov.

    That is three dictators in one month, when did that happen last? If the world continues in that pace, 2007 is going to be a pretty good year.

    Also, next to go is Castro.

  3. Lars Andersen Says:

    Hmm… on second thought, maybe Alexander Lukashenko. Sadly, there are still plenty to choose from.

  4. Sid H Arthur Says:

    Andrew - you’re right. Fuck-all on how the USA plied him with weaponry to use in the killing of 1 million Iranians. He was tried on charges for a lesser crime that the West were not complicit in (the Dujail atrocities) but not on the crimes that the West had a direct hand in. For example, Bush Snr encouraged the Kurds and the Marsh Arabs to rise up against Saddam, but left them without any support, which allowed him to go in and slaughter them.

    As for this execution, the timing, the feeling that he was rushed to the gallows in spite of facing a raft of other charges means that any chance of Saddam singing like a canary and implicating Western agencies that were complicit in his crimes have gone to the grave with him.

    Tariq Ali calls it a colonial hanging.

    That Saddam was a tyrant is beyond dispute, but what is conveniently forgotten is that most of his crimes were committed when he was a staunch ally of those who now occupy the country. It was, as he admitted in one of his trial outbursts, the approval of Washington (and the poison gas supplied by West Germany) that gave him the confidence to douse Halabja with chemicals in the midst of the Iran-Iraq war. He deserved a proper trial and punishment in an independent Iraq. Not this.

    The double standards applied by the west never cease to astonish. Indonesia’s Suharto who presided over a mountain of corpses (at least 1 million, to accept the lowest figure) was protected by Washington. He never annoyed them as much as Saddam.

    And what of those who have created the mess in Iraq today? The torturers of Abu Ghraib; the pitiless butchers of Fallujah; the ethnic cleansers of Baghdad, the Kurdish prison boss who boasts that his model is Guantánamo. Will Bush and Blair ever be tried for war crimes? Doubtful. And Aznar, currently employed as a lecturer at Georgetown University in Washington, DC , where the language of instruction is English of which he doesn’t speak a word. His reward is a punishment for the students.

    Saddam’s lynching might send a shiver through the collective, if artificial, spine of the Arab ruling elites. If Saddam can be hanged, so can Mubarak, the Hashemite joker in Amman and the Saudi royals - as long as those who topple them are happy to play ball with Washington.

  5. Princetonian Says:

    So this disgusting show trial and barbaric execution is what democracy in post-Saddam Iraq is all about? This is what regime-change, at the expense of 600,000 Iraqis and hundreds of coalitions soldiers has been about?

    If Saddam is guilty, then when will we see Blair, Bush, Bashir, Mugabe and yes, Henry Kissinger go on trial?

  6. Sid H Arthur Says:

    Lars, true enough. But why did Bush Snr promise them this support in the first place? Only to pull out at the last minute to protect his own and thereby hand them over to Saddam to slaughter. I suspect you’ll tell me it was realpolitik. But you’ll accept that that’s just a euphemism for treachery, pure and simple.

  7. Lars Andersen Says:

    I’ll accept that there is a fine line between treachery and realpolitik.

    Whether or not “treachery” is applicable depends on what precise statements Bush Snr made in 1991. I must admit I haven’t been able to find that out.

  8. Nasser Says:

    You see, Saddam is dead and half the world are saying that Bush and Blair deserve to be dispatched in the much same way.

    The rationale behind this seems to be that previous governments of their respective countries (ie., the US and UK) were instrumental in putting Saddam into power and subsequently provided him with finances, intelligence, arms, and the political leeway to kill many Shias, Kurds and Iranians when it in was in their politico-economical interests to do so. Therefore, they are equally accountable. No one seems to be denying this. But let’s be be clear: not a hair on the heads of Blair or bush will ever be touched as a result of Iraq, so why bother going on about it?

    What should perhaps be stressed more often is that the whole Iraq debacle - the site Saddam on the gallows and the lack of any accountability on the part of the US/UK, despite the few sham ‘enquiries
    ‘ - should remain a salutory lesson for any other prospective muslims (leaders or otherwise) who choose to side with westen oil-consuming countries in the hope of turning against their fellow muslims.

  9. sunday Says:

    The snuff film was an amazing example of the insanity of this war. Here we send Saddam to the gallows being heckled by sectarian thugs. I would think they would want to stamp this execution with a state seal of transparency. I guess the would rather feed the flames of hatred with this politically moronic move. Good times ahead

  10. Nazzina Says:

    I think 6 people should follow Hussein:

    George W Bush
    Tony Blair
    Donald Rumsfeld
    Dickie Cheney
    Condoleezza Rice
    George Bush Snr

    A bit more on this: http://framedland.com/nikonian/?p=31

  11. Lars Andersen Says:

    The rationale behind this seems to be that previous governments of their respective countries (ie., the US and UK) were instrumental in putting Saddam into power and subsequently provided him with finances, intelligence, arms, and the political leeway to kill many Shias, Kurds and Iranians when it in was in their politico-economical interests to do so. Therefore, they are equally accountable. No one seems to be denying this.

    In general, whenever someone ends a sentence with No one seems to be denying this. it is either trivial or blantantly absurd. This is a case of the latter.

  12. Sid H Arthur Says:

    Nazzina

    You realise we’ll see pigs making chartered transatlantic flights before any of your six follow Saddam.

  13. Sid H Arthur Says:

    Here’s an interesting film on Saddam, the facts of which no one seems to be denying:

    http://www.ericblumrich.com/thanks.html

    Although Lars will most likely find it “trivial or blatantly absurd”. ;-)

  14. Lars Andersen Says:

    Well Sid. You’re right, and I don’t find it trivial.

    Seriously, if this guy or anyone else has any credible evidence, that the Reagan administration supplied chemical weapons to Iraq, do everyone a favour and send to the N.Y.T. because they will run it on the cover, and it will most likely force Bush to resign.

    Anyway, I’m not out to defend previous U.S. policy on the middleeast. It has been rather horrible - a point Condoleezza Rice has come as close to admitting as she can: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4109902.stm

    My point is just, that there is no need to resort to Michael Mooreish fiction to deliver that message.

  15. Lars Andersen Says:

    That’s strange. I could swear I had more than one comment in this thread yesterday…. :(

  16. Nasser Says:

    Hello Lars, I am looking for some logic in your comment but cannot find it. A generalisation cannot disprove a specific assertion. If you really want to show that the following statement is absurd:

    “The rationale behind this seems to be that previous governments of their respective countries (ie., the US and UK) were instrumental in putting Saddam into power and subsequently provided him with finances, intelligence, arms, and the political leeway to kill many Shias, Kurds and Iranians when it in was in their politico-economical interests to do so. Therefore, they are equally accountable. No one seems to be denying this.”

    all you have to do is name one person (other than yourself) who is denying it. Have fun.

  17. Lars Andersen Says:

    A generalisation cannot disprove a specific assertion.

    No, but a counterexample can disprove a generalization. And you’re the one making the generalization: “no one seems to be denying this”. I deny it - so your sentence as stated is false, since at least one person (me) is denying it.

    But that is beside the point. What I’m questioning is your premise, that the governments were instrumental in putting Saddam to power. Do you have any evidence that, say, the UK has had, what can reasonably be described as an instrumental role in putting Saddam to power and his subsequent genocides?

  18. Sid H Arthur Says:

    Oh come Lars, there is more than enough evidence that the US provided munitions and intelligence to Saddam during the Iraq-Iran war years. Pick up Dilip Hiro’s Secrets and Lies for starters. Anyway, since when did you need evidence to invade and change a country’s regime?

  19. Nasser Says:

    Lars, the statement that “no one is denying this” but quite obviously a simple subject-verb-object statement and not a generalisation about observed phenomenon. Rather, your post was quite clearly a generalisation because it begain with the words “In general”.

    But please let’s exit this spiral into semantic hell by the quickest route.

    And look, with regard to your question for evidence, do you think that the western diplomats who aided Saddam all the way upto his rather unwise foray into oil-rich Quwait will leave such evidence lying around?

    Do you think that the understanding that Western diplomacy is just a thin veneer over lies and corruption will be a *popular* one which you will readily find in daily newspapers and consumer TV news shows? Do you think that western diplomats are not capable of manipulating evidence (”weapons of mass destruction?”)

    Do you think that it is easy to undo your brainwashing and to see the truth for what it is?

    The evidence is everywhere if you look for it.

    I can give you a few starting points:

    http://www.unknownnews.net/saddam.html
    http://www.casi.org.uk/discuss/2000/msg01267.html
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2225.htm
    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2003/0304.marshall.html

    Have fun.

  20. Nasser Says:

    For Lars:

    Please read these articles follow any links from the article. Here you may find the evidence you requested. This is after 7 minutes of my time on google. I am sure you can find more if you choose. And if you do choose to do so, then you will be amongst the small minority of your European compatriots.

    U.S. Diplomatic and Commercial Relationships with Iraq, 1980 - 2 August 1990
    (Nathaniel Hurd and Glen Rangwala).
    http://www.casi.org.uk/info/usdocs/usiraq80s90s.html

    An article by NY Times correspondent Patrick Tyler: (Yes, the NY Times is already aware of it):
    “Reagan Aided Iraq in War Despite Use of Gas”
    http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.19B.reagan.iraq.htm

    Did Saddam Gas the Kurds? Or was it Reagan?
    Marc Perkel
    http://marc.perkel.com/archives/000295.html

    Arming Iraq: A Chronology of U.S. Involvement
    By: John King, March 2003
    http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/arming_iraq.php

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