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  • 1. Jay Singh  |  February 2nd, 2006 at 5:46 pm

    They shouldnt have been prosecuted unless there was a direct and causal incitement. It was a bad decision - this is the best thing to happen to the BNP in years - publicity, money, everything. They have come up on top.

  • 2. Siddharth  |  February 2nd, 2006 at 6:18 pm

    All Hail Heros of Freedom Of Speech.

  • 3. Siddharth  |  February 2nd, 2006 at 6:19 pm

    They Shoot Muslims Don’t They?

  • 4. j0nz  |  February 2nd, 2006 at 6:23 pm

    Haha. Yes well one of them said “he felt like getting a machine gun and using it for those coming out of the mosque”.

    It was his own grotesque opinion.

    Now if he’d of said “I urge all white Britains to machine gune those coming out of the mosque” then he should have been banged up for a long, long, time.

    Well done New Labour. In your pathetic half-arsed attempts to ‘woo the Muslim vote’ after the Iraq war, you have surely achieved the antithesis to this?

  • 5. Siddharth  |  February 2nd, 2006 at 6:26 pm

    I think you’re being very unkind to the ProWar Left’s Missionary Position bedmates.

  • 6. squared  |  February 2nd, 2006 at 7:36 pm

    Oh great; this’ll do wonders for their ego.

  • 7. Kay  |  February 2nd, 2006 at 8:28 pm

    Believe it or not, the BNP and their racist ethos is influence more and more people. It was always presumed that such a ‘political party’ appealed to the working classes but surprisingly the ‘white’ middle class are seeming inclined to follow suit.

    I’m def. not happy with ‘em being ‘freed’, not after the kind of comments that were made in that undercover documentary.
    It was obvious that they exist purely to incite hatred.
    And the media’s obsession with ‘terrorism’ and ‘islamophobia’ fuels the situation even more.

    By the way things are looking now, I think that such a party may perhaps come into power in a few decades as sadly to say that many individuals are influenced by their illusive ideologies.

    After a weekend in a remote part of Dorset, its worrying to how oblivious some ‘white’ people are towards us asians.

  • 8. Kay  |  February 2nd, 2006 at 8:34 pm

    sorry for typos
    is- *are
    influence- *influencing
    *seemingly

    Sorry still stuck in the office- Aaarrrgggghh.

  • 9. oliver  |  February 2nd, 2006 at 9:21 pm

    Think the Danish newspapers were a bit reserved. After all they could have shown Mohamed consummating his marriage to his 9 year old child wife!……..PS will be voting BNP next election, free speech and all that….

  • 10. David T  |  February 2nd, 2006 at 9:56 pm

    yeah, yeah.

    wanker.

  • 11. j0nz  |  February 2nd, 2006 at 11:08 pm

    lol

    Ignore the trolls!

  • 12. ian  |  February 2nd, 2006 at 11:17 pm

    the BNP and their racist ethos is influence more and more people

    Because the ‘liberal’ media keep it underground and spin their commentary to everything the BNP say.

    Let the BNP appear on Question Time as often as the SNP do, and they’ll damn themselves out of their own mouths. People will see them for what they are. And they’ll have a chance to ask them the $64,000 questions, too. The BNP have support because people think oh, they must be doing something right, because the government’s trying to stamp them out.

    I remember a programme on C4 about paedophiles some years ago. Before anyone saw it, half the press were condemning it, because it was pretty much wall to wall these creeps speaking for themselves, no opposition. My gut feeling was that they’d shoot themselves in the foot: there’d be no propagandising because they’d give their agenda away. They did. The programme was a success. Just like the undercover expose of the BNP some while back.

    The majority of people in this country are good. Show them badness directly, and they’ll recognise it. Be oblique and mealy-mouthed about it, and they won’t take it in.

  • 13. ian  |  February 2nd, 2006 at 11:42 pm

    Exactly the same with Iqbal Sacranie, come to think of it.

  • 14. Geezer  |  February 2nd, 2006 at 11:57 pm

    Great post Ian

  • 15. Sunny  |  February 3rd, 2006 at 12:20 am

    I was going to say the same as Ian. It pisses me off to no small degree that people make out the BNP to be such a big problem that they’re gonna start running the country. There is NO WAY the BNP will ever run the country, and I can stake all my websites on that :)

    I’d rather, as he said, let them speak and hang themselves. They’re a bunch of nitwits and the more they talk, the more people get annoyed with them. The hoo-haa last year about that documentary got so out of hand. I was annoyed that all these people ran silly campaigns to stop it being shown.
    http://www.asiansinmedia.org/news/article.php/television/456

  • 16. jamal  |  February 3rd, 2006 at 1:23 am

    So Abu Hamza should get off aswell then?

  • 17. Rohin  |  February 3rd, 2006 at 1:57 am

    No, as we have explained on more than one occasion here jamal.

    In fact, I can’t believe you actually asked that.

  • 18. James Sutherland  |  February 3rd, 2006 at 2:15 am

    “let them speak and hang themselves. They’re a bunch of nitwits and the more they talk, the more people get annoyed with them.”

    You mean like when Griffin warned that suicide bombers from northern England would blow themselves up (a year before it happened)?

    If the idiots producing that documentary had concentrated their efforts on infiltrating Islamic groups the attacks might have been prevented.

    “Let the BNP appear on Question Time”. Jeremy Paxton tried it - and lost MISERABLY to Griffin. Griffin and others would destroy them, easily. And they know it. The BBC refuses to even link to their website.

    And why the hell should anyone be prosecuted for inciting hate? ‘Hate’ is not illegal so neither should be incitement to it. Shall we make it illegal to incite hatred against say, America? Or Satanists?

  • 19. oliver  |  February 3rd, 2006 at 9:04 am

    Well said James.Still can’t understand why these Muslims take offence at the FACT Mohamed was a paedophile.

  • 20. Gaz  |  February 3rd, 2006 at 11:06 am

    I agree that Paxman didn’t do very well against Nick Griffin. Paxman would have been better served ripping into their pathetic policies; they are after all a political party. Paxman should not have focussed on the repeated line of questioning about Griffins thoughts on his son or daughter marring outside of their race. Paxman made it all to easy for Griffin to counter this line of questioning.

    I agree that the BNP should be invited onto question time/newsnight but I don’t think it is a foregone conclusion that they can be made to look like idiots, especially Griffin.

    The rest of party that I have heard speak do come across as a bunch of fascist half-wits.

  • 21. Cinnamon  |  February 3rd, 2006 at 11:13 am

    And now the silly govt. is going to try and reproscecute Griffin… I’m wondering, is there some sort of Labour plot to promote the BNP?

  • 22. oliver  |  February 3rd, 2006 at 11:47 am

    I hear the BNP received one donation of £20,000. Well if the CPS prosecute Nick Griffin again i will double that amount.

  • 23. Jay Singh  |  February 3rd, 2006 at 12:12 pm

    Like I said, whoever made the decision to prosecute Griffin and the other Nazi was a fool (Griffin’s goosestepping co-accused was also filmed undercover a couple of years back by Channel 4 saying that the Jews deserved the gaschambers)

    However, I am all for giving the BNP more exposure for one reason - they are flaiiling bunch of thugs, racists, fascists, anti-semites and scumbags who will be exposed as soon as they have any kind of critical light shone on them - so shine the light on their toilet! The British people are the fairest, most decent and understanding people in the world. They can smell a Nazi when they see one and they will see plenty of them in the BNP.

  • 24. Armour_Knight  |  February 3rd, 2006 at 12:19 pm

    Dear Oliver - have you ever taken it upon yourself to investigate the age when Mary mother of Christ was given in marriage to Joseph according to Christian doctrine?

    Yes she was a young girl and then gave birth to Christ when she just became a teenager.

  • 25. Siddharth  |  February 3rd, 2006 at 12:26 pm

    I hear the BNP received one donation of £20,000. Well if the CPS prosecute Nick Griffin again i will double that amount.

    You mean you’re actually willing to put your money where your arse is?

  • 26. Geezer  |  February 3rd, 2006 at 12:27 pm

    Lol ^^^

  • 27. Jay Singh  |  February 3rd, 2006 at 12:40 pm

    I really hope he gives the money to the racist and Jew hating runts - it will be throwing it into a sewer. And then he will have lost all his money. Ha ha ha.

  • 28. Vikrant  |  February 3rd, 2006 at 12:47 pm

    Shit man £20,000… to BNP.
    Get a life.

  • 29. Kay  |  February 3rd, 2006 at 2:21 pm

    ‘However, I am all for giving the BNP more exposure for one reason - they are flaiiling bunch of thugs, racists, fascists, anti-semites and scumbags who will be exposed as soon as they have any kind of critical light shone on them ‘

    Jay, that’s not necessarily true. You’ll be surprised to the number of people that are gullible and be influenced by the overtly racist views of the BNP.
    Ian, agree with your comments but as I said that there are some really gullible individuals out there. And its increasingly evident.

    I still don’t think that that verdict was fair, why were they ‘freed’. Whom did the jury panel consist of?

  • 30. Proud Brit  |  February 3rd, 2006 at 3:20 pm

    So if the BNP are so off track with the rest of the voters,why is the need to perscute them, ban large parts of the community from being a member and give out so much bad press. I thought the idea of politics was to debate before you legislate. By saying that a large number of people are gullible and may be influenced by these racist views is stupid. If these people are that gullible who did they vote for in the last election? Oh I forgot ‘nu labour’! So to be entitled to vote you must now prove you are not gullible or lose your vote. I think that is more offensive to a large proportion of our population than certain cartoons.

  • 31. oliver  |  February 3rd, 2006 at 4:53 pm

    Wow hold on! The BNP do NOT hate Jews .We have a Jewish councillor and many Jewish members voters, and supporters. We stand side by side with our Jewish allies against Islam who wishes to destroy us all.We also have many Hindu and Sikh supporters and someday soon we will all join together and kick out the whinging Muslims from the UK. PS Great result from Heanor council by election over 400 votes beating Conservatives and Liberals. Maybe the BNP will form a Government sooner than you think……

  • 32. Col. Mustafa  |  February 3rd, 2006 at 5:05 pm

    Oliver, i hope your aware of this, cos if your not theres obviously something wrong with the inner workings of your mind.
    99 % of sikhs and hindus hate the BNP’S guts and always will.
    99% of jews hate the BNP’s guts as well.

    By the way im being nice by saying 99%.

  • 33. Cinnamon  |  February 3rd, 2006 at 5:11 pm

    Oliver,

    I hate to prick your bubble, but, it takes more to win an election than to win a court case.

    The BNP has some valid points about Islamism, but I and many others think it is better if people with more gravitas and a higher ethical standing take the debate over and keep it where it belongs — within the realm of civility and actual practical problem solving.

    Just because people can agree over some facts with the BNP, it does not mean that the BNP ideology is accepted.

  • 34. oliver  |  February 3rd, 2006 at 5:35 pm

    OK, you little Muslim paedophile worshippers you. ….. PS I am Jewish……..Shalom

  • 35. Col. Mustafa  |  February 3rd, 2006 at 5:40 pm

    “OK, you little Muslim paedophile worshippers you. ….. PS I am Jewish……..Shalom”

    Ahh, the comment that says i can’t debate with you, but instead i shall make a cheap remark about your religion in the hope that this turns into a fistcuff.
    Well done Oliver; youv’e shown us why you are more superior.

  • 36. Jay Singh  |  February 3rd, 2006 at 6:13 pm

    Oliver

    You are not Jewish.

    And here is what Nick Griffin’s right hand man is all about regarding Jews:

    Modell has little in common with his subject and finds himself taking an exception to some of Collett’s interests and occupations - which range through rabid anti-Semitism (’Jews aren’t white’) to explaining how he likes to “break” people, in particular his ex girlfriend

    In the end Modell has to confront Collett to explain he has recorded his anti-Semitic pro-Nazi comments on tape. When he realises Modell is of Jewish descent, for once Collett is speechless.

    http://www.channel4.com/news/2003/special_reports/young_nazi_proud.html

  • 37. oliver  |  February 3rd, 2006 at 6:30 pm

    Do i have to give you my bamitzvah date and show you my circumcision scar? Then again you Muslims have always hated my people,you are no better than Hitler. Long live the state of Israel !

  • 38. Siddharth  |  February 3rd, 2006 at 6:37 pm

    You guys: Jay, Col Musty

    The BNP trolls are mine!!

  • 39. oliver  |  February 3rd, 2006 at 8:09 pm

    Hi, little paedophile Siddarth i’m all yours. You are an evil muslim pervert, just like your Mohamed. Lock up your little girls Siddarth is on the prowl…..

  • 40. Proud Brit  |  February 4th, 2006 at 1:25 am

    Siddhairth!
    If the BNP trollls are yours who is gonna deal with the Islamic flag burning, death threatening, embassy demostrating islamic lunatics? Oh sorry we must not persecute them. And we can’t expect the ‘moderate’ muslim to condem them. I say muslim in the singular as I have not seen any group criticise them. Jack Straw (praise be upon him) criticises newspapers for cartoons but accidentaly fails to condem death threats. ErrrHHH YOU CHOOSE, which is worse?

  • 41. Vikrant  |  February 4th, 2006 at 5:57 am

    Move aside Baul; They belong to a Vampire Vicky.

  • 42. Siddharth  |  February 4th, 2006 at 6:33 pm

    There seems to be some confusion here. Proud Brit and oliver are brutish, stupid racist ne’er-do-wells. Exactly what BNP say they are not.

    So are you guys wrong or is the BNP wrong?

  • 43. Oliver  |  February 4th, 2006 at 10:18 pm

    Wow Siddharth, getting a little deep aren’t we? Using the old fallback “racist” when you get a mite vexed. Well i should think we as indigenous folk should have the right to be a tiny bit angry at idiot Muslims threatening to bomb us once again with no ounce of remorse for the 7/7 victims. The British National Party can’t fail to go from strength to strength due to fools like you. PS 50, 000 people on Sky news poll voted for the British press to print those little cartoons…….. take a look Siddharth.

  • 44. Oliver  |  February 4th, 2006 at 10:41 pm

    Well said Proud Brit !

  • 45. Siddhartha  |  February 4th, 2006 at 11:08 pm

    Yes right, the SKY poll means the UK is craving some BNP.

  • 46. Jack Sprat  |  February 10th, 2006 at 8:14 am

    The BNP and their leader, the venerable Mr Griffin
    are not racist idiots.

    Many of my posts state different points on the subject.

    The BNP’s agenda is fairly broad, the Islamic issue is just one part of it.

    The reason the BNP is more involved is poorer areas is because that is where the problems are more pronounced, it is not because the BNP feel that it is where they can more easily influence potential supporters.

    It is perfectly valid for citizens of any country to be concerned with immigration, it’s effects and related governmental policies. The BNP are a legal, political organisation and have every right to discuss such matters with British citizens.

    An increasing number of British citizens are aware of the truths that the BNP explain.
    The BNP’s agenda is entirely transparent, they are
    stating their intentions and policies clearly, they have no hidden agenda, you don’t need to decipher what they say. There is no reason to keep the truth from middle class British citizens, they are just as entitled
    to know the truth as any other class of British citizen.

    The BNP and the Muslim fundamentalists causes and agendas in the Uk and globally are not equivalent or equal. The equivalent of the BNP in a densely populated African country for instance would be a legal and democratic political party that decides that they need to limit the number of immigrants to that African country for various reasons including economic, cultural and environmental reasons and that they would like to ensure that their own citizens are not at a disadvantage simply because they are indigenous to that country while the legal and democratic political party would not wish to interfere and meddle in other countries affairs and would wish to protect the agricultural sector of the country to ensure a secure food supply. The hypothetical group of people would be nothing like typical Muslim fundamentalists extremists.
    The charges against Mr Griffen are entirely false and have no other purpose than to damage a legal opposition political party.

    The fact that Mr Griffen has caused the prosecution to fail is because the case against him is false and Mr Griffen and his excellent legal team simply stated the facts regarding his speeches and the context and circumstances in which his speeches were made, the only reason he wasn’t found not guilty on all charges is because the juries judgement has been heavily affected by lies and propaganda spread to mislead the British people on the issues being discussed.

  • 47. Jack Sprat  |  February 10th, 2006 at 8:20 am

    When Mr Collet spoke of showing ethnics the door
    in 2004 he was referring to the BNP policy of offering
    all those individuals who perhaps felt they could not
    integrate into UK society as any law abiding and decent citizen would do then they should be offered a generous
    financial resetlement package to assist them in
    settling in a country more suited to their way of life such as and African an Asian country.
    I hope this clears up any misunderstanding and helps to disemminate the truth regarding the BNPs policies.

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