TWISTED BNP chief Chris Hurst gives a Nazi salute at a fascist gig by the singer who inspired massacre monster Anders Breivik.

Hurst, the BNP’s London Regional Secretary, cried “Sieg heil” as pop girl Saga sang the Norwegian fiend’s favourite songs at a rally in Hungary.
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The warped 22-year-old reckoned the victims were needed to “breed” to increase the white population.

And blaming immigration for Breivik’s shocking slaughter, he added: “Isolated incidents like that are going to happen more and more as the problem gets worse.”

Read the full piece here

Two points to note: he blames immigration for Breivik’s actions, echoing other people on the right who predict more such far-right terrorism on the basis of immigration.

Second, note how he also focuses on the demographics of white identity versus minorities.

The Norwegian fanatic has been in close contact with hundreds of British right-wing extremists for two years, it emerged last night. He chatted about ‘tactics’ on social networking sites with hundreds of members of the English Defence League (EDL) and the British National Party (BNP) and attended demonstrations and meetings here… Breivik has claimed he was recruited by two English Right-wing extremists at a UK meeting in 2002 attended by seven others.

It is good to see that far-right groups are being put under increasing scrutiny. For years we have seen neo-Nazis and their allies convicted of various terrorism-related charges, from plotting terror campaigns to detonating nail bombs. Yet much of the mainstream media has rarely focused on this threat, apart from when trials were going on. Even then, the coverage has seemed muted at times. This should be a wake up call for many that there are armed and dangerous far-right extremists out there, who are willing to slaughter their fellow citizens in the name of their twisted ideology.

Nor should the EDL and BNP be ignored in this debate. Whilst they will publically disown convicted terrorists like Anders Breivik, there is a significant overlap in many areas of their respective ideologies, which is why Anders Breivik was able to get on with so many BNP and EDL activists.

Born into the spring of 1982, during its early years the party steered clear of elections. It was not until the arrival of Nick Griffin as chairman in 1999 that a serious quest for votes commenced. Influenced by his time in the 1970s National Front, and inspired by its more successful French counterpart, Griffin went about revamping the BNP under a strategy of “modernisation”. The goal was to attract a broad and stable electorate by detoxifying the brand, adopting community-based activism and throwing resources at local and European elections.

At this point, it seems unlikely that the BNP will pose a serious electoral threat in the near future, as the anti-Griffin rebellion grows and senior figures leave or have left already. But, as Matthew Goodwin argues, there is still space for an “anti-immigrant populist party”. This opens the way for the EDL.

On the Continent, recently successful far-right parties have not followed the old neo-Nazi model of outright racism, but rather focused on Islam and immigration; this has helped these parties gain a respectability denied to neo-Nazis. The EDL fits this mould, as they have made a great deal of effort to avoid being seen as racist, preferring instead to talk as much as possible about Islam and terrorism.

Yet they are not a party at present, being more of a lobby/protest group. If they wished to become a party however, then they would be able to absorb much of the now-fragmented BNP’s grassroots activists, who are experienced campaigners. This could be done without taking the BNP’s name, and thus avoiding the toxic branding of being an openly racist party.

There is certainly plenty of overlap between the EDL and BNP. Already Barking, once a BNP stronghold, has seen co-operation between local EDL and BNP activists in attacking UAF (Unite Against Fascism):

Some 25 EDL thugs threw bricks and rocks at Crown House causing damage to the building’s exterior. They chanted “EDL” and shouted racist abuse and death threats. At least two Barking BNP activists were involved in the mob attack.

The EDL has been active in Barking & Dagenham recently whipping up race hatred over proposals to build a mosque in the borough. Anti-fascist activists believe the local BNP branch is turning back to street thuggery after the losing all 12 of its councillors in last year’s elections.

Is this a sign of things to come? Possibly.

The problem with the BNP and other extremist groups is not that they might send a representative or two to a legislature (where they usually behave badly and often fail to get re-elected), but that support exists for them at all.

If the BNP/EDL have, say, 5% support nationally, then that is what needs to be addressed, not worrying which voting system will best keep them out of power. It is in day to day life that this matters the most; the BNP are a racist, anti-immigrant party, so it will be local non-whites and immigrants who bear the brunt of living in an area where people support the BNP.

Having no BNP representatives at any level doesn’t mean that support for them has disappeared. No one should be happy if a BNP representative is elected, but that is a symptom of the problem, not a cause.

On Friday, police were given a video which appeared to show Mr Owens dousing a copy of the Koran with a highly flammable fluid, before setting it alight and watching it burn. Later that day he and another of the party’s candidates for the assembly election, Swansea East candidate Joanne Shannon, were arrested.

Mr Owens was charged on Saturday night. He is in custody in Swansea, and due to appear in court on Monday. Ms Shannon has been bailed pending further inquiries.

Sion Owens, who has links to alleged Nazis, was arrested after an Observer investigation tracked down the perpetrators of a Qur’an-burning video and handed the evidence to the police:

The footage of the burning in Britain clearly identifies Owens, who is wearing a “Whitelaw No Surrender” T-shirt. The film starts with the Qur’an lying in a Quality Street tin before Owens begins dousing the holy book in flammable liquid and then setting fire to it. The camera zooms in as the Qur’an burns.

It is clear that Sion Owens is a racist yob, who belongs to a party with links to terrorists such as the Klu Klux Klan. Book burning is also abhorrent, and this was clearly an attempt to provoke an extreme reaction. Yet it is worrying that book burning can get someone arrested. In some scenarios it is understandable; for instance, if Mr. Owens did it in a crowded mosque, as this could potentially provoke a riot or stampede (the old ‘don’t shout fire in a crowded building’). But this wasn’t the case. The fact that this could cause violent demonstrations once it was exposed doesn’t justify arresting someone, any more than burning a copy of My Side by David Beckham would if there was an outrage.

I do not know about her competency in her present role, but she is wasted there. Prior to the general election she was Shadow Minister for Community Cohesion, which has a faintly sinister ring, but she was an effective advocate in that position. She faced down both far-right and Islamist extremists: in Luton she was pelted by eggs thrown by Anjem’s Choudary’s gang. On Question Time she confidently bested Nick Griffin, a night which in hindsight was probably one of the BNP’s biggest setbacks. As a British Muslim woman too, her background meant her words often carried more weight, whether speaking on extremism or forced marriage.

She has been a consistent opponent of forced marriages and ‘honour’-based violence, speaking out against them on numerous occasions and helping to research and combat forced marriage in Pakistan. For all the faults of the previous Labour government, they did make some progress in tackling ‘honour’-based violence and forced marriage, from increasing funding for specialist police officers to establishing a Forced Marriage Unit. This momentum has stalled under the Conservatives. The most powerful advocate against such practices was Baroness Warsi, and her current role doesn’t really allow her to focus on these things, and who else in the Coalition is talking about this?

Baroness Warsi should again become the Minister for Social Cohesion, because these issues need a competent champion.

One of the great joys of the BNP having LJB as their chief legal adviser was knowing that every time he spoke, he spoke with the authority of a senior BNP figure. This could take the form of detailed responses, such as answering our eighty five questions, or merely promising us a “quick trial, a short rope and a long drop.” His interests range from cheering on arson attacks to detecting the hidden hand of Zionism behind affairs.

BNP watchers will have a duller time after this.

(Via Harry’s Place)

Before the ban was imposed Mr Griffin, an MEP for North West England, described the Buckingham Palace invitation on the BNP website as a “highly symbolic breakthrough” for the party and e-mailed supporters asking for questions they would like him to ask the Queen.

Mr Griffin also appeared on GMTV to talk about his invitation to the garden party.

But, in a statement, Buckingham Palace said: “Nick Griffin MEP will be denied entry to today’s garden party at Buckingham Palace due to the fact he has overtly used his personal invitation for party political purpose through the media.

Clearly the palace wasn’t withdrawing the invite because he is a member of the BNP, as the other MEP from the BNP, Andrew Brons, is still invited. Yet this decision, though correct, is likely to be used as a way for the BNP to continue to claim they are being persecuted. Their portrayal of themselves as outsiders and victims is their strongest weapon, and distracts attention from their actual policies and performance whilst in office.

BNP:

1. Nick Griffin is finally admitting that the BNP’s disastrous defeat in the recent General Election was due to them being comprehensively outclassed by the other political parties, particularly (in Griffin’s view) the Labour party. The URL link includes Griffin’s bizarre, rambling email to BNP members in full, detailing his plans to revamp the party prior to his alleged stepping down from the Chairmanship in 2014 so that he can lead a block of “nationalist opponents” in the European Parliament. Apparently a BNP “Campaign Executive” group has been formed, as a way to integrate the various groups involved in the BNP’s overall strategy. Griffin also wishes to create an “Operations Command Centre” (described by him as a “BNP academy of political excellence”), which will include a “National Training Department” for their key officials. The BNP also plan to create a distance learning website, described by Griffin as “a sort of Nationalist Open University” (one would assume that white supremacist websites such as Stormfront already perform that function). Amusingly, Griffin is still insisting that the BNP are the “Real British People”, despite the fact that more than 98% of Britain’s entire electorate did not vote for them in the General Election.

2. The BNP’s annual “Red, White and Blue” gathering has been cancelled this year, to the considerable relief of the local residents.

3. Graham Partner, one of the BNP’s few remaining councillors, has joined the calls for Griffin to be replaced as the party’s chairman; he has stated that the BNP is not being managed in an “open and honest way” and that there is “something to hide”. Partner has also called the BNP’s constitution “antidemocratic” and a “farce”, where BNP members are “merely a source of income” for the party’s senior leaders such as Griffin.

4. Griffin has openly stolen the EDL’s slogan “England is for life, not just for summer”, rephrasing it for the BNP’s summer campaign as “England is for life, not just for football”. This is of course despite their ongoing claims that there are no links between the BNP and the EDL; Griffin himself, in his usual antisemitic way, has even claimed that the EDL is a “Zionist false flag operation” with the aim of “provoking a civil war on the streets of Britain” and ultimately intended to trigger nuclear attacks against Arab countries in the Middle East. However, it is worth noting that the EDL’s main website creator has been confirmed as a BNP activist, and the administrator of the Luton EDL Facebook page is also a BNP member.

5. A joint investigation (also here) by Birmingham University and the interdenominational organisation ‘Faith Matters’ has confirmed that the BNP are deliberately playing the “divide and rule” game of trying to inflame & exploit tensions between Sikhs and Muslims.

6. The BNP’s “Sikh” supporter Rajinder Singh is now being formally investigated by the central Sikh authorities at the Akal Takht (part of the Golden Temple complex) in Amritsar, India, for his vociferous & very public promotion of bigotry and hatred towards Muslims (especially compared to the actual pluralistic, non-sectarian, humanitarian message of Sikhism and the lives of its historical founding Gurus, as detailed on PP here, here and here). Potentially Rajinder Singh could be formally excommunicated because of his actions, resulting in him being officially declared a global pariah from the world’s entire Sikh population.

7. BNP activist Tom Holmes, who stood as a candidate for Rotherham in the General Election and works for TalkTalk as a field representative, has been exposed as being desperate to prevent his employers and colleagues from finding out about his racist views and his membership of the BNP. Holmes, who has boasted online about being a Gold Member of the BNP and apparently models himself on his idol Nick Griffin, has been using his Facebook page to discuss his “black book” of people to be “put up against the wall” along with his eagerness for what he believes to be an impending “race war”.

EDL:

1. A few weeks ago, BBC Three had a documentary about the EDL, called “Young, British and Angry”. It’s no longer available via the BBC’s iPlayer service, but you can still see highlights from the documentary via Youtube here. The EDL’s “Sikh” poodle-cum-sepoy Guramit Singh (sometimes known as “Amit” Singh) is continuing to be heavily involved in the EDL’s activities as their public spokesman; he has also been forcefully condemned by Dr Jasdev Rai of the British Sikh Consultative Forum (BSCF), whose chairman is “Bhai Sahib” Mohinder Singh, one of the most respected figures within Britain’s Sikh population and who has been actively involved in opposing bigotry towards ordinary Muslims. (Bhai Sahib was recently discussed in detail on PP here). The BBC documentary included numerous examples of the EDL’s frequent lack of self-awareness, such as one of their balaclava-wearing activists complaining “Why do people call us Nazis ? We’re nothing like Nazis”…..whilst speaking in a dingy basement and surrounded by similarly-attired thugs.

2. An excellent article discussing the results of a recent investigation into the EDL by the Guardian (includes undercover video footage), exposing the EDL’s aims to target a number of locations with Muslim populations this summer in order to deliberately provoke disorder. Like the BNP – whose current chairman Nick Griffin has been caught on video admitting that he’s deliberately scapegoating & persecuting Muslims as a vehicle to achieve political power – the EDL is persistently exposed as being an extremely racist organisation, despite their public claims to the contrary and despite their claims to only be opposed to “militant Islam” rather than ordinary Muslims en masse.

3. An associated article by The Guardian here, providing further detailed analysis of the EDL. It is clear that the EDL not only has striking parallels with Al-Muhajiroun along with the KKK, the National Front, and certain European fascist groups from the first half of the 20th century, but as a self-appointed paramilitary organisation geared towards terrorising & intimidating ordinary members of the civilian population (especially people from minority groups), the EDL is also exactly like the Taliban (particularly the version currently wreaking havoc in Pakistan) and fringe extremist Hindutva groups in India such as the RSS, Shiv Sena, Bajrang Dal and Sri Ram Sena.

4. A Muslim author discusses the necessity for British Muslims to refuse to “take the bait” in response to the EDL’s deliberately-provocative actions. On a related note, it goes without saying that – again, like the BNP – the EDL are justifying their stance by promoting a highly-distorted caricature of huge numbers of ordinary Muslims, and are disingenuously ignoring (or being grossly ignorant of) numerous influential contemporary and historical Muslims whose lives and actions completely contradict the EDL’s assertions, including the Muslims discussed on PP here, here, here, here, here, here, and here.

5. An article by (believe it or not) the Daily Mail openly labelling the EDL as “fascists”, focusing on a recent EDL march through Newcastle and including a number of photographs of the event.

6. Further evidence of the EDL’s plans to deliberate incite violence in Bradford this August. The EDL activist Jeff Marsh (who recently released a widely-ridiculed and now-deleted Youtube video under the alias “Arrylad”) has responded to the recent Guardian expose with violent threats against the main journalist responsible, specifically referring to the gangland tactic of weighing people down and drowning them.

7. Two members of the EDL have appeared in court accused of soliciting the hate killings of Jews; they specifically face a total of 7 counts of “soliciting to commit murder”, and “using threatening or abusive language likely to stir up racial hatred”. These included posting comments on the extremist website ‘The Aryan Strike Force’ such as “Jews are parasites feeding off others”, “Jews will always be scum” Kill the Jew, Kill the Jew! Burn down the synagogue. Burn the scum”, “Jews will always be scum and must be destroyed”, and “I would encourage any religion or race which wants to destroy the Jews, I hate them with a passion”.

8. Paradoxically, the EDL are attempting to set up a “Jewish division” in order to recruit Jewish members to support their campaign against Muslims.

9. The EDL are also in the process of creating a children’s division. “Hitler Youth”, anyone ?

10. The EDL are violating British copyright laws by producing World Cup clothing bearing the Three Lions logo, which actually belongs to the FA. The FA’s legal department has contacted the EDL and demanded that they stop, but the EDL have refused to do this, and are still selling the illegal clothes via their clothing website.

11. A summary of an ongoing drama involving the recent Guardian investigation, one of the EDL’s media representatives, the British armed forces, Facebook, and the anti-BNP/EDL blog 1 Million United (“1MU”). Includes details of the fake threats the EDL representative is making against 1MU along with her wild claims of being supported by the “military chain of command”. The EDL’s media representative has subsequently been reprimanded by her husband’s commanding officer in the British Army for their involvement in the EDL and the claims they have been making.

1. An excellent summary from the Guardian here.

2. Nick Griffin’s delusional post-election “analysis”, addressed to BNP members, including a huge exaggeration of the number of MPs the BNP would theoretically possess under the proposed proportional representation system.

3. Griffin’s subsequent message in relation to the escalating civil war within the BNP. More ranting.

4. Griffin’s third public message, including fabricated “percentages” of Barking & Dagenham’s non-white electorate along with the assertion that the BNP is the “British Resistance”. Believe or not, Griffin’s apocalyptic faux-Churchillian call to arms isn’t actually a spoof; he really did write this message.

5. Griffin’s latest message, which can be summarised as “denial, denial, denial”. According to Griffin, any incriminating information which reflects badly on the BNP (described by Griffin as a “movement of national salvation”) is falsified and part of a huge global conspiracy.

6. The BNP is facing a renewed legal prosecution over their constitution, since it turns out that they haven’t actually removed the problematic racist clauses as instructed (re: the previous successful prosecution by the EHRC) but just moved them to different parts of the document and slightly reworded them in an attempt to circumvent the injunction. Griffin was directly responsible for this, so he could be charged with contempt of court and potentially be imprisoned.

7. The BNP’s London organiser Bob Bailey has been arrested for assault (and bailed until July) due to the clash with a group of Asians in Barking a day before the election. Two of the Asians involved have also been arrested on suspicion of assault and affray, and have subsequently been bailed.

8. Just before Griffin was leaving the premises after the election results for Barking & Dagenham, he was confronted by Nick Lowles from Searchlight about the incident in Barking involving Bailey. Lowles’ impromptu confrontation with Griffin was captured on video. Griffin makes false allegations about the Asians carrying knives and also refuses to condemn Bailey’s actions (especially Bailey’s attempt to forcefully kick the Asian lying on the ground) despite being repeatedly questioned about the matter by Lowles. Also note Griffin’s Freudian slip when he refers to the [white] “British majority” and then corrects himself by stuttering “minority”, along with his claim that the BNP now needs to change into a “civil rights” organisation for them.

9. A very professional and thorough analysis of the legal ramifications of ‘Marmitegate’. The use of Marmite was a deliberate publicity stunt by Griffin, and the BNP’s Legal Director Lee John Barnes was also fully aware of this despite the potentially catastrophic legal consequences. This has obviously backfired spectacularly, as the huge multinational company Unilever is using its full resources to launch a prosecution against the BNP. The party’s disgruntled webmaster Simon Bennett is also involved in assisting the prosecution, so this may result in a further exposé of “where all the bodies are buried”. The BNP recently attempted to launch a “gagging order” against Bennett in order to scare him into silence, but Bennett has refused to back down, resulting in Griffin and the BNP now dropping their court action; this has been estimated to have cost the BNP £3000 in legal fees, unwittingly funded by the BNP’s members.

10. The BNP implosion continues, with ex-Director of Publicity Mark Collett now publicly joining in the attacks on Griffin. Collett is the individual Griffin has recently accused of plotting to assassinate him.

11. The BNP has effectively split in two; Simon Bennett and rival for the leadership Eddy Butler have set up a new website demanding that Griffin resigns and calling for an urgent internal debate within the BNP. Bennett has also unilaterally removed Griffin’s personal EU website. He was responsible for sabotaging the BNP’s official website and terminating the party’s Facebook pages and Twitter feeds shortly before the General Election, thereby completely derailing the BNP’s online propaganda campaign.

12. Multiple articles from ‘Vote No to the BNP’. Includes Eddy Butler’s letter to BNP members, an article about BNP councillor (and governor at two Stoke-on-Trent secondary schools) Steve Batkin’s affiliations with three neo-Nazis photographed giving Nazi salutes next to a war memorial and who are members of the “Blood and Honour” fascist group, and Simon Bennett’s removal of the BNP’s private Trafalgar Club website (used by the BNP to fund Griffin by donations from people who do not want there to be any public records of their donations to the BNP).

13. More information about Steve Batkin via ‘Nothing British about the BNP’. Apparently the BNP have refused to sack him; ex-BNP councillor Alby Walker claims that Batkin is not an exception, and that this is the reason that he left the party (more information about the BNP’s real agenda and ideology via Walker here). Walker also states that his aim is to now expose to the public the true face of the BNP. The National Union of Teachers has called for Batkin to resign his school governorships, and South Staffordshire Royal British Legion manager Peter Smith expressed revulsion at the photo, saying “Three hundred and twenty six thousand servicemen and women died in World War II so that we wouldn’t have Nazi salutes on the streets of Britain”.

14. BNP school governor Debra Kent, also an administrator of the BNP’s official Facebook page and authorised by Griffin to stand as PPC for Lancaster and Fleetwood, has angrily claimed online that “Jews have a massive influence in this country. The BBC and most of the media is Jewish-owned”. This is yet another well-known antisemitic myth.

15. Just in case Nick Griffin’s own hatred of Jews needed any further clarification, here is video footage of Griffin stating on the record to Dominic Carman that “If Hitler hadn’t been so daft, they’d have exterminated the German Jews”. Griffin is also on record stating “The Jews have bought the West and control the press for their own political ends”.

Some further information:

• Griffin believes in the ”New World Order” global conspiracy (a paranoid theory particularly prevalent amongst members of the extreme far-Right in the US). He has mentioned the “New World Order” in every speech he’s given at the EU parliament, and this article includes a video clip of his assertions on the topic and the alleged links to a global conspiracy involving climate change/global warming (it’s the first video, titled “EU Parliament – Nick Griffin MEP on Global Warming”).

• Griffin is on record claiming that there is a “criminal gene” which justifies a Nazi-style eugenics policy involving the sterilisation of criminals. The hypocrisy continues to mount, considering how many BNP members possess criminal records and the fact that Griffin himself is on record boasting about repeatedly breaking British laws.

(Hat-tip: Jai for the video)

The BNP’s 2010 campaign has descended into a fratricidal bloodbath after Simon Bennett, the BNP’s web-master, attacked the BNP leader Nick Griffin MEP on the party’s website and nationalist internet forums.

The extraordinary episode started yesterday, when Bennett removed the BNP’s website replacing it with an angry message aimed at Griffin and Jim Dowson.

The BNP are a threat; their racism and violence is deeply worrying. But we must never forget that their policies have been exposed, and that they are a shower in many ways:

Burnley:

The BNP’s position deteriorated even further when another of its councillors, Luke Smith, smashed a bottle into the face of a fellow BNP supporter. In the resulting by-election the BNP vote halved and the party slipped down into third place.

Blackburn:

The BNP did have one councillor in Blackburn, Robin Evans, but last September he walked out of the party. He then wrote a letter to his former BNP colleagues denouncing Blackburn BNP as a party of drug dealers and football hooligans … Last year Searchlight reported that Evans could not follow council business. “This is all mumbo jumbo,” he told fellow councillors. “I don’t understand a word of it.” The mumbo-jumbo he was referring to was the council budget!

Sandwell:

Last summer Sandwell’s two BNP councillors thought they would outfox their political rivals by proposing a motion to the full council calling on the government to stop sending asylum seekers to the borough.. They knew full well that the motion would fall but they would then be able to tell electors that the BNP was the only party that opposed the arrival of more asylum seekers in the area.

To their surprise the motion was passed with an amendment. The BNP happily supported the new motion quite unaware that the changes reversed everything the BNP originally wanted. So the BNP councillors voted for a motion that sympathised with the plight of asylum seekers, condemned the government for being too harsh on them, attacked the press and politicians who tried to whip up racism and called on the council to accept their responsibility to take more.

Stoke:

Steve Batkin, the BNP’s Stoke councillor, has also failed to impress. During his election campaign last year he questioned the Holocaust and claimed that Jewish people only made an issue of it to make money. His performance has not improved since then. He missed a few meetings early on but now just sits in silence. After eight months in post he had to ask council officials to explain what abstaining meant.

Earlier this year it emerged that he had not paid his council tax since becoming a councillor. He claimed this was because of the long queues of asylum seekers at the council tax office but of course this was nonsense because that office has nothing to do with asylum seekers. However, while he dodged his tax, he did find time to claim his full councillor’s allowance of £100 a week.

(Hat-Tip: Jai for the website story)

[Disclaimer: All characters and events in this article — even those based on real people — are entirely fictional. All celebrity voices are impersonated.....poorly. The following article contains coarse language and due to its content it should not be viewed by anyone]

The Chairman of the BNP is interviewed by Jermyn Pacman on the BBC’s flagship current affairs programme ‘Newsnite’.

NN: “Good evening. How are you ?”

BNP: “I’m feeling particularly indigenous today, thank you.”

NN: “Do you want an apple juice ?”

BNP: “Oh, I’d love an apple juice.”

NN: “Here you go.”

BNP: “Thank you, it’s fabulous.”

NN: “Yeeess. How are you going to reduce Britain’s non-white population from 10% to 1% ?”

BNP: *splutter* “I’m sorry ?!”

NN: “You confirmed directly on Question Time last October that one of the BNP’s main goals is still to reduce Britain’s non-white population from 10% to 1%. Exactly how will you achieve that ?”

BNP: “We’d offer them a firm incentive to accept voluntary repatriation.”

NN: “By getting everyone else in Britain to aim their Citizen’s Assault Rifles at them ?”

BNP: “Yes. Er, no. We’d offer them some money to leave.”

NN: “How much ?”

BNP: “Our new General Election manifesto stipulates a budget of £18 billion which –“

NN: “There are 6 million non-white British citizens, so that works out at just £3000 per person. Do you seriously think that would be enough ?”

BNP: “Er…..well, some people have previously proposed the figure of £50,000 –“

NN: “If you offered them £50,000 per person, you’d need £300,000,000,000 to cover the 6 million people who are non-white British citizens. Where are you going to get that money from ?”

BNP: “Well, we’d use the foreign aid budget and –“

NN: “You think Britain’s foreign aid budget contains £300,000,000,000 ?”

BNP: “Um, it could be a combination of taxation with –“

NN: “You think you could raise that much money by taxing the British public ?”

BNP: “Look, once we’re in power and we’ve convinced them of the benefits, I’m sure they’d be happy to cough up a few hundred billion pounds after we’ve performed a formal survey to verify how many non-white British citizens there actually are, and –“

NN: “You don’t trust the current figures ?”

BNP: “Why should we trust some Government-funded left-wing Marxist quango which –“

NN: “If you don’t trust the current figures then how do you know that 10% of Britain’s citizens are non-white ?”

BNP: “That’s just it. We don’t.”

NN: “Then how can you make the claim that you want to reduce Britain’s non-white population from 10% to 1% ?”

BNP: “I’d like to plead the Fifth Amendment.”

NN: “That only applies in the United States. You’re giving an interview in London, not another one of your speeches at those white supremacist American Renaissance conferences.”

BNP: “I can’t tell you because European law prevents me.”

NN: “None of which applies here in Britain.”

BNP: “But unfortunately, the French courts and the German courts would not recognise that freedom.”

NN: “Why won’t you just answer the question ?”

BNP: “Ve ask ze questions.”

NN: “I beg your pardon ?”

BNP: “I said that our time is limited, so let’s move on.”

NN: “Very well. Who do you think you speak for in Britain ?”

BNP: “We represent the views of the silent majority of the great British public.”

NN: “How do you know they’re the majority if they’re silent ?”

BNP: “What ?”

NN: “In fact, how do you know what they think at all if they’re silent ?”

BNP: “You just look…..You just know…..”

NN: “I see.”

BNP: “Look, if Anjem Choudary of Al-Muhajiroun can claim to speak for the silent majority of Muslims in Britain, I can claim to speak for the silent majority of the ‘indigenous British’.”

NN: “Are you admitting you’re the equivalent of Anjem Choudary ?”

BNP: “Yes. No. What ?”

NN: “And do you know who was the primary original source of the term ‘silent majority’ ?”

BNP: “Well, no, but I’m sure it was a wise and great aboriginal white person.”

NN: “It was the disgraced American ex-President Richard Nixon.”

BNP: “Ah. Well, he was probably framed by Zionists.”

NN: “Right…..”

BNP: “Like I was when I was on Question Time.”

NN: “You don’t think that was your own fault ?”

BNP: “No.”

NN: “Let’s examine a selection of examples. You repeatedly made the false claim that the last Ice Age ended ‘17,000 years ago’.”

BNP: “Er –“

NN: “You started smirking when discussing the Holocaust.”

BNP: “Um –“

NN: “You initially claimed that you hadn’t shared a public platform with ex-KKK leader David Duke even though the video footage is actually available online.”

BNP: “I –“

NN: “You then claimed that your numerous incriminating remarks had been misquoted.”

BNP: “They –“

NN: “And after David Dimbleby read out your speech verbatim, including your statements about aiming to take over the British broadcasting media so that you could use it as a vehicle for racist propaganda and your explanation of the BNP’s need to publicly use Trojan Horse terms like “identity” instead of “racial purity” until then, you actually attempted to act as an apologist for the KKK.”

BNP: “But apart from that, it went really well.”

NN: “And do you seriously believe that the last Ice Age ended 17,000 years ago ?”

BNP: “Look, I was poorly briefed, it was an easy mistake to make –“

NN: “It’s such a universally-known fact that your level of ignorance is the equivalent of being unaware that the planet Saturn has rings.”

BNP: “SATURN HAS RINGS ?!”

NN: “Hmm…..I’m going to say ‘No’.”

BNP: “Oh thank God.”

NN: “Let’s move on. You’ve admitted that you found the propaganda section of Hitler’s book Mein Kampf to contain ‘some really useful ideas’.”

BNP: “Of course. Hitler’s been tremendously misunderstood. Most great men are.”

NN: “I see.”

BNP: “Hitler was personally almost completely non-violent, by the way.”

NN: “Right…..Well, our time is up. It’s certainly been enlightening.”

BNP: “Gosh, thanks awfully.”

NN: “So how do you think this interview went ?”

BNP: “Oh, it was clearly a roaring success. Like when Apollo 1 landed on the moon – a great triumph for indigenous Europeans all over the world, incidentally.”

NN: “That was Apollo 11. Apollo 1 was destroyed by fire on the launchpad and all the astronauts inside it were killed.”

BNP: “Oh…..Well, nothing like that, then.”

NN: “Yeeess.”

On yesterday’s Today programme, BNP leader Nick Griffin told the Radio Four audience that “Liberal economics … have utterly bankrupted this country.”

The truth is that Nick Griffin was himself declared bankrupt in 1991. Over several years thereafter he destroyed his parents’ finances as well.

Griffin’s parents are on record telling the story of how their son ruined their lives.

It is the story of a man whose gross financial incompetence brought misery to his entire family. Griffin racked up debts of several hundred thousand pounds through a series of disastrous property investments, which he describes as “a big cock up” and a result “of my over-ambition”. He was declared bankrupt and then caused the financial ruin of his parents.

Griffin borrowed very heavily on several properties in the early 1990s, especially on a large country house in France. His father, Edgar, guaranteed the borrowing – at Nick’s request.

Edgar Griffin explains that to finance the enormous accumulated debt they had to sell their own substantial farm house in Suffolk, all their shares and a flat left to Griffin’s mother – all disposed of in order to meet the high interest payments and the effects of negative equity.

“We came out of it very badly,” explains Edgar. “My father had left me a rich man… I was very, very comfortably off.” But everything went to pay Nick’s debts.

Jackie, aka Mrs Nick Griffin, paints a picture of her husband as an idle, feckless egomaniac: “His parents taught him that the sun rose and set in his arse because he doesn’t know how to do anything at home and is always, always right.”

According to Jackie, Nick idled around for 20 years playing at fascism while she went out to work and paid the bills with four kids to feed – until he got the job as BNP leader, by which time he was 40.

Before then, he hardly worked at all, except for short periods chopping down trees and teaching eastern Europeans English in Wisbech, as she slaved away. For a year they lived on benefits – she took unpaid maternity.

Jackie Griffin says of her husband: “My mother thinks he could do with a damned good slap and get out there and do something. We’ve had four kids. I’ve worked all my life. I’ve always worked. I’ve had children and gone back to work. She’d have been a lot happier if he’d been able to provide.”

In the eyes of his parents and of his wife, Nick Griffin is manifestly unfit to lead a party which aspires to run a council, Barking & Dagenham, where the annual budget approaches £200 million.

If they don’t trust him, how on earth can the voters of Barking?

By Dominic Carman

Dominic Carman spent several days interviewing and filming Nick Griffin, his family and collaborators. He is standing as Lib Dem candidate in Barking and Dagenham on a platform of exposing Griffin.

To see more about the real Nick Griffin, see the interviews with him on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=dominiccarman67#g/u

Marmite sues BNP! Oh the number of puns that could apply here…

Marmite is beginning legal action against the British National Party after an image of a Marmite jar was used on a political broadcast without its permission, the company said.

“It has been brought to our attention that the British National Party has included a Marmite jar in a political broadcast shown currently online. ‘We want to make it absolutely clear that Marmite did not give the BNP permission to use a pack shot of our product in their broadcast. Neither Marmite nor any other Unilever brand are aligned to any political party.

”We are currently initiating injunction proceedings against the BNP to remove the Marmite jar from the online broadcast and prevent them from using it in future.”

Then, it turns out Nick Griffin is furious that one of his people is trying to steal the limelight.

I’ve picked up news that the BNP is planning some sort of St George’s Day parade in Barking on Friday morning. It fact, it may well turn out to be their election launch despite them telling the press that it will be in Stoke-on-Trent. Perhaps they are having two launches.

In previous years local BNP leader Richard Barnbrook has ridden through the East London borough on a white horse. Griffin it appears is not impressed and is telling those around him that in no circumstances must Barnbrook ride the horse.

With Griffin being criticised over the poor election campaign it’ll be interesting to know who carries the day.

A horse ban?? It’s political correctness gawn maaaad!

(Celtic Nations Map)

The BNP’s ongoing assertions about “English indigenousness” have some interesting ramifications, particularly in the context of claims of primacy, dominance and territorial “ownership” based on the notion of “we were here first”. The first inhabitants of the British Isles were the group now termed “Celts” as per the accepted definition in mainstream British discourse, and as a result, Celts and people exclusively descended from them are actually the only genuinely “indigenous” inhabitants of the British Isles.

Therefore, as a Devil’s Advocate exercise in the interests of extrapolating the type of logic that the BNP themselves use in their assertions about non-white British citizens and the BNP’s rationale for wishing to “repatriate” the latter, I’m going to use the BNP’s own terminology to demonstrate how the same line of thinking can be applied to them, as follows :

Celts have had most of their ancestral homelands in the region now called “England” stolen from them by Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Danes (Norse Vikings), Normans, and people descended from these groups, who have committed genocide towards the Celts via a combination of miscegenation, warfare, displacement, and territorial annexation.

Furthermore, the BNP’s expectation that people exclusively descended from Celts should continue to tolerate this situation and indeed actively participate in it is an unjustifiable assumption that Celts on the British Isles should commit autogenocide; even the very act of miscegenation with Celts by members of the aforementioned groups results in the destruction of a Celtic family line that stretches back into deep prehistory.

Consequently, people exclusively descended from Celts would be justified in wishing to halt and indeed reverse any further genocide of them as a distinct people, involving both miscegenation and the colonisation & occupation of their ancestral homelands; as a result, they have the full right to demand that British citizens possessing Angle, Saxon, Jute, Norse Viking and/or Norman ancestry are repatriated back to their geographical regions of origin on mainland Europe, if necessary via the use of multiple independent DNA testing to identify and confirm non-Celtic ancestry.

At the very least, people of exclusively Celtic ancestry have the right to demand that BNP members with non-Celtic ancestry should be subject to this course of action……and as a current resident of Wales and therefore an active participant in the “bloodless genocide” of the indigenous Welsh, the BNP’s present chairman Nick Griffin should be at the front of the queue for DNA testing, with Celtic Welsh people having the right to subsequently remove his presence not just from Wales but from the British Isles as a whole.

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The British National Party (BNP) frequently suggests that it attracts support because it is the only party to take into account communities’ ‘real’ experiences of immigration.

ippr has explored whether or not this is the case by looking at the roots of BNP support across 149 local authorities. We conducted regression-based analysis to see whether or not high levels of immigration do raise communities’ support for the BNP, or if other variables – such as political disengagement – are important.

Our findings suggest that areas that have higher levels of recent immigration than others are not more likely to vote for the BNP.

In fact, the more immigration an area has experienced, the lower its support for the far right.

It seems that direct contact with migrants dissuades people from supporting the BNP For example, of the 10 local authorities in which the BNP gained most support in the 2009 European elections, nine had lower than average immigration (with Barking and Dagenham the only anomaly).

Rather, the evidence points to political and socio-economic exclusion as drivers of BNP support. In particular, areas with low average levels of qualifications (which can mean people struggle in today’s flexible, knowledge-based economy), low levels of social cohesion, and low levels of voter turnout (indicating political disenchantment) are the ones that show more BNP support.

We therefore urge mainstream politicians to strongly resist the notion that people have been driven into the arms of the BNP by the harm immigration is causing to their communities.

Instead, they must focus on building strong communities and strong education systems, and on rebuilding trust and confidence in democratic politics, so that marginalised people do not feeling so disconnected. This should enable them to both better serve the interests of these communities, and undercut support for the BNP

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Download the full study from here.

Griffin recently reiterated the BNP’s “voluntary repatriation” plans (apparently now expanded to include people originally from mainland Europe) in a lengthy interview with Iain Dale published online by Total Politics, as follows:

In your 2005 manifesto you said: “We will end immigration to the UK and reduce our land’s population burden by creating firm but voluntary incentives for immigrants and their descendants to return home.” What does “firm” mean and what does “home” mean, because they are quite difficult to define?

Firm would mean that certainly in the case of serious criminals and illegals and people whose right to work was removed. For instance, when we left the European Union, there wouldn’t be a choice about it. They would have to go.

Where?

If we are talking about the Eastern Europeans, who have got the right to come here, it is obvious where home is. With most people, it is clear where they have come from. If people have entered this country and torn their documents up, then even if they have been granted asylum, they shouldn’t have been, and we would reverse that.

But if you don’t know where they have come from, you can’t return them there.

If you want to, you can virtually find out which village they come from in Africa with DNA tests. Someone has got to take them. But their presence here isn’t fair. And it is not legal.

Just because you want to send them somewhere, doesn’t mean that the state you want to send them to has to accept them. What do you do if they say no?

Well… we’ll find some silly European liberal state which will happily take them. Someone will take them.

You reckon?

Yes, someone will take them.

“Firm but voluntary incentives for immigrants and their descendants to return home…” Is that policy still your policy now?

Yes, broadly so. Let’s reword the bit in the case of ones who have no right to be here. It would be firm. It wouldn’t be brutal, it would be firm. In the case of people who have come here legally, who are integrated into our society, we would say: “Look it is on the table. If you want to take it, you can take it.”

This is despite the fact that the proposed “voluntary repatriation” policy is actually financially inviable, even if cash was diverted from foreign aid budgets or there were attempts to raise it via taxation; for example, the amount of money potentially required to cover 6 million people (the number of non-white British citizens) is truly astronomical. Even a relatively modest £5000 per person would require a total budget of £30,000,000,000. A larger repatriation “incentive” such as £50,000 per person would require a total budget of £300,000,000,000. And, of course, the choice of people taking up the offer is allegedly “voluntary”.

Nevertheless, Griffin has directly confirmed that the intention is still to eliminate the presence of 90% of the non-white citizens of Britain. Therefore, this raises the question of exactly how a BNP government would achieve a population reduction on that scale.

In fact, this question was formally posed to the BNP’s Legal Director a few months ago here on Pickled Politics, after he had expressed a willingness to openly debate BNP policies :

have the guts to undertake a real debate with people in the BNP….then give me a call.

I will debate with you anytime, anywhere.

….muzzle free speech.

Fine. I’m removing all alleged “free speech restrictions”; therefore, providing a detailed and comprehensive answer in writing and on the record to the following straightforward question should not be an issue:

Exactly how would a BNP government reduce Britain’s non-white population from 10% to 1% — confirmed as one of the BNP’s continuing aims by Nick Griffin directly on the BBC’s “Question Time” in October 2009 — considering that Nick Griffin also confirmed during the latter half of 2009 that the BNP is now formally abandoning its proposed “voluntary repatriation” policy ?

Since “free speech muzzles” do not apply in this case, for the benefit of the public the maximum amount of detail possible should be provided in relation to the specific procedures and actions involved in the planned BNP population reduction programme.

The response should be restricted to the specific question asked and should also be accompanied by written confirmation that the contents have been formally authorised by the BNP’s senior leadership, are on the record, and are an accurate representation of the specific measures a BNP government would implement in order to achieve the aforementioned population reduction upon winning a national General Election in the United Kingdom.

Finally, the response should be copied in full & verbatim in an email from a verifiable BNP email account to this website’s editorial team via both of the contact forms displayed here: http://www.pickledpolitics.com/contact in order to provide an authenticated electronic record of the contents along with electronic confirmation that the author is indeed who they claim to be and has been formally authorised to speak for & represent the BNP in this matter.

Absolutely no details have been forthcoming. The silence is deafening.

This very simple question, focusing on one of the BNP’s major policies, and presented to a self-proclaimed legal & democratic political party which is campaigning in the General Election, is not posed solely to the BNP’s legal director but to any member of the BNP’s senior leadership.

Assuming that the BNP has nothing to hide about exactly how they plan to achieve a population reduction of that magnitude, of course.