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		<title>By: lithcol</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/997/comment-page-1#comment-54550</link>
		<dc:creator>lithcol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a problem and it does appear that the West Midlands Police are not to blame for the hype.
 The police and security services have to act if we are to avoid another atrocity in this country. However, the press should be more circumspect. If it turns out that leaks came from Government sources, then heads should role.
This should not of course detract from the obvious that the West and its values are under attack by a murderous fascist ideology.
The West is not alone. I fear for India, where innocent live are lost every day to this backward ideology. 
If another atrocity is perpetrated in this country, many progressive and innocent 
Muslims will suffer the backlash..
There are limits to tolerance, and it is a pity that Islamism is so intolerant. I do not want the religious sectarianism and murders seen in other countries ( and no it was not religious sectarianism in NI). In this country. Hindus, Sikhs etc do very well, as do many Muslims. So it is not brown skin ( not that all Muslims have brown skin), it is the religion itself when interpreted in the fanatical way that Saudi finance and  influence encourages.
I am afraid that things will get very much worse and the losers will be all Muslims and not just the fanatics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a problem and it does appear that the West Midlands Police are not to blame for the hype.<br />
 The police and security services have to act if we are to avoid another atrocity in this country. However, the press should be more circumspect. If it turns out that leaks came from Government sources, then heads should role.<br />
This should not of course detract from the obvious that the West and its values are under attack by a murderous fascist ideology.<br />
The West is not alone. I fear for India, where innocent live are lost every day to this backward ideology.<br />
If another atrocity is perpetrated in this country, many progressive and innocent<br />
Muslims will suffer the backlash..<br />
There are limits to tolerance, and it is a pity that Islamism is so intolerant. I do not want the religious sectarianism and murders seen in other countries ( and no it was not religious sectarianism in NI). In this country. Hindus, Sikhs etc do very well, as do many Muslims. So it is not brown skin ( not that all Muslims have brown skin), it is the religion itself when interpreted in the fanatical way that Saudi finance and  influence encourages.<br />
I am afraid that things will get very much worse and the losers will be all Muslims and not just the fanatics.</p>
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		<title>By: El Cid</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/997/comment-page-1#comment-54499</link>
		<dc:creator>El Cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 00:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone has decribed blogging as the modern way of talking to yourself. But I think this relevant:
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article2248782.ece</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone has decribed blogging as the modern way of talking to yourself. But I think this relevant:<br />
<a href="http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article2248782.ece" rel="nofollow">http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article2248782.ece</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bert Preast</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/997/comment-page-1#comment-54485</link>
		<dc:creator>Bert Preast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and.... breathe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and&#8230;. breathe.</p>
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		<title>By: Bert Preast</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/997/comment-page-1#comment-54484</link>
		<dc:creator>Bert Preast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Refresh - I&#039;m here \o/

But I&#039;m not even slightly amused by this one.  This has knocked the army back to the 80s, whatever happens soldiers home on leave to areas with a muslim population cannot relax.  Instead we&#039;re back to checking the car every morning for IEDs and hiding the uniform while pretending to be a fitness instructor.  Which is frankly undignified.

This plot fits perfectly with the sermons Izzadeen etc. have been spouting and I don&#039;t doubt that it&#039;s all too real.  Though unless the participants were extravagantly dumb what evidence can you have until the deed is done?  A video camera, headband, orange jumpsuit and a breadknife just isn&#039;t going to make the grade, is it?  It seems selling hateful material isn&#039;t enough, so the police will have to wait for them to saw someone&#039;s head off before they can be sure of a conviction.

And Sunny&#039;s attempts to equate everything to the BNP bombers are beginning to grip my tits.  Why not equate them to Meibion Glyndwr (the Welsh nationalists who never went further than rhetoric and vandalising some English owned holiday homes)?  When the BNP manage to blow some randoms to bits, you can have your equivalence.  In the meantime they&#039;re not in the same league.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Refresh &#8211; I&#8217;m here \o/</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m not even slightly amused by this one.  This has knocked the army back to the 80s, whatever happens soldiers home on leave to areas with a muslim population cannot relax.  Instead we&#8217;re back to checking the car every morning for IEDs and hiding the uniform while pretending to be a fitness instructor.  Which is frankly undignified.</p>
<p>This plot fits perfectly with the sermons Izzadeen etc. have been spouting and I don&#8217;t doubt that it&#8217;s all too real.  Though unless the participants were extravagantly dumb what evidence can you have until the deed is done?  A video camera, headband, orange jumpsuit and a breadknife just isn&#8217;t going to make the grade, is it?  It seems selling hateful material isn&#8217;t enough, so the police will have to wait for them to saw someone&#8217;s head off before they can be sure of a conviction.</p>
<p>And Sunny&#8217;s attempts to equate everything to the BNP bombers are beginning to grip my tits.  Why not equate them to Meibion Glyndwr (the Welsh nationalists who never went further than rhetoric and vandalising some English owned holiday homes)?  When the BNP manage to blow some randoms to bits, you can have your equivalence.  In the meantime they&#8217;re not in the same league.</p>
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		<title>By: blinbo</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/997/comment-page-1#comment-54473</link>
		<dc:creator>blinbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the legacy: a comedy of terrors
The breathtaking new novel that has the whole of the Conservative Party chattering!
The tale chronicles the progression of unbridled governance, its demise and inevitable descent into hubris.
The work’s title, subject matter and its reasonance with the public are obvious, but it is absolutely bulging with handy quotables and chic wisdom as well.
Freeview. Please use recycled paper.
www.myspace.com/thelegacyacomedyofterrors 
Grab your handy quotables and chic wisdom now!
 
To download a copy of my novel in pdf format, go to:
www.geocities.com/andrewblinman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the legacy: a comedy of terrors<br />
The breathtaking new novel that has the whole of the Conservative Party chattering!<br />
The tale chronicles the progression of unbridled governance, its demise and inevitable descent into hubris.<br />
The work’s title, subject matter and its reasonance with the public are obvious, but it is absolutely bulging with handy quotables and chic wisdom as well.<br />
Freeview. Please use recycled paper.<br />
<a href="http://www.myspace.com/thelegacyacomedyofterrors" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/thelegacyacomedyofterrors</a><br />
Grab your handy quotables and chic wisdom now!</p>
<p>To download a copy of my novel in pdf format, go to:<br />
<a href="http://www.geocities.com/andrewblinman" rel="nofollow">http://www.geocities.com/andrewblinman</a></p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 11:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But he added: “It is important we allow police to get on with their investigation without undue speculation.”&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t condone random acts of violence but people like him seriously test that principle...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But he added: “It is important we allow police to get on with their investigation without undue speculation.”</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t condone random acts of violence but people like him seriously test that principle&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nyrone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nyrone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C4 news mentioned animal-rights protestors possibly being behind the letter-bombs...there were lots of suspects, it felt a bit like cluedo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C4 news mentioned animal-rights protestors possibly being behind the letter-bombs&#8230;there were lots of suspects, it felt a bit like cluedo.</p>
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		<title>By: ZinZin</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/997/comment-page-1#comment-54372</link>
		<dc:creator>ZinZin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never mind the Jihadis the motorists are turning to terrorism. 

And this is John Reids response.

Home Secretary John Reid described the incidents as &quot;worrying&quot;.

But he added: &quot;It is important we allow police to get on with their investigation without undue speculation.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never mind the Jihadis the motorists are turning to terrorism. </p>
<p>And this is John Reids response.</p>
<p>Home Secretary John Reid described the incidents as &#8220;worrying&#8221;.</p>
<p>But he added: &#8220;It is important we allow police to get on with their investigation without undue speculation.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Chairwoman</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/997/comment-page-1#comment-54369</link>
		<dc:creator>Chairwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On my marriage certificate, where it says &#039;Father&#039;s occupation&#039; my father put &#039;company director&#039;.  He was quite peeved when I told him that meant &#039;member of the criminal class&#039; or &#039;minicab proprieter&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On my marriage certificate, where it says &#8216;Father&#8217;s occupation&#8217; my father put &#8216;company director&#8217;.  He was quite peeved when I told him that meant &#8216;member of the criminal class&#8217; or &#8216;minicab proprieter&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;prominent businessman&#039; = probably a fraudster?

Touches a bit of a nerve with me. One of the banes of my life is an ex-schoolmate and neighbour who is now ostentatiously rich and succesful. Mum actually saves newspaper cuttings to show me his latest triumph. &#039;I see blank has bought Poshbastard Hall&#039; she will remark, or (last Sunday) &#039;I see blank has bought a fleet of executive jets.&#039; This with a glance at the two year old Clio I bought last month and which I am really quite pleased with. &#039;Eee, blank did well for himself in the eighties.&#039; (i.e., while I was galivanting around the tropics without a pot to piss in). 

Twenty odd years of this but, because mum knows his mum, I can&#039;t say, &#039;Yes, by smuggling hard drugs from Holland and ruthlessly ripping off everybody he does business with.&#039;

Sorry, just needed to vent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;prominent businessman&#8217; = probably a fraudster?</p>
<p>Touches a bit of a nerve with me. One of the banes of my life is an ex-schoolmate and neighbour who is now ostentatiously rich and succesful. Mum actually saves newspaper cuttings to show me his latest triumph. &#8216;I see blank has bought Poshbastard Hall&#8217; she will remark, or (last Sunday) &#8216;I see blank has bought a fleet of executive jets.&#8217; This with a glance at the two year old Clio I bought last month and which I am really quite pleased with. &#8216;Eee, blank did well for himself in the eighties.&#8217; (i.e., while I was galivanting around the tropics without a pot to piss in). </p>
<p>Twenty odd years of this but, because mum knows his mum, I can&#8217;t say, &#8216;Yes, by smuggling hard drugs from Holland and ruthlessly ripping off everybody he does business with.&#8217;</p>
<p>Sorry, just needed to vent.</p>
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		<title>By: Chairwoman</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/997/comment-page-1#comment-54367</link>
		<dc:creator>Chairwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly!</p>
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		<title>By: El North Londoner</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/997/comment-page-1#comment-54366</link>
		<dc:creator>El North Londoner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this code thing a bit like an obituary in The Telegraph when it says:
&quot;He never married.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this code thing a bit like an obituary in The Telegraph when it says:<br />
&#8220;He never married.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Katy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;prominent Asian businessman&quot; = Asian (and probably a fraudster)
&quot;prominent Nigerian businessman&quot; = black (and probably a fraudster)
&quot;prominent North London businessman&quot; = Jewish (and probably a fraudster)

Now Mum&#039;s pointed it out, you&#039;ll spot it everywhere.  Trust me.  

Oh yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;prominent Asian businessman&#8221; = Asian (and probably a fraudster)<br />
&#8220;prominent Nigerian businessman&#8221; = black (and probably a fraudster)<br />
&#8220;prominent North London businessman&#8221; = Jewish (and probably a fraudster)</p>
<p>Now Mum&#8217;s pointed it out, you&#8217;ll spot it everywhere.  Trust me.  </p>
<p>Oh yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Chairwoman</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/997/comment-page-1#comment-54362</link>
		<dc:creator>Chairwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I&#039;m not hyper sensitive to this, I am both amused and irritated by it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I&#8217;m not hyper sensitive to this, I am both amused and irritated by it.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;but there are many who know the code.&lt;/i&gt;

Hmmm I&#039;m uneasy about things like this. I take your point but still part of me wonders if this isn&#039;t hyper sensitivity etc. That said, if in doubt do the right thing. The right thing here for me is probably to shut my mouth before it encounters my foot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>but there are many who know the code.</i></p>
<p>Hmmm I&#8217;m uneasy about things like this. I take your point but still part of me wonders if this isn&#8217;t hyper sensitivity etc. That said, if in doubt do the right thing. The right thing here for me is probably to shut my mouth before it encounters my foot.</p>
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		<title>By: Chairwoman</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/997/comment-page-1#comment-54360</link>
		<dc:creator>Chairwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leon and Rodrigo - Trust me, that&#039;s what it means.   

As Londoners you see it correctly, but there are many who know the code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leon and Rodrigo &#8211; Trust me, that&#8217;s what it means.   </p>
<p>As Londoners you see it correctly, but there are many who know the code.</p>
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		<title>By: El North Londoner</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/997/comment-page-1#comment-54357</link>
		<dc:creator>El North Londoner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ditto</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ditto</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/997/comment-page-1#comment-54353</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;‘North London Businessman’&lt;/i&gt;

That too!?! I&#039;ve lived in North London all my adult life (in fact most of my teenage life too) and never once thought &quot;Jewish person&quot; when that phrase has been mentioned. I guess I just don&#039;t see N London as primarily one ethnicity or another...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>‘North London Businessman’</i></p>
<p>That too!?! I&#8217;ve lived in North London all my adult life (in fact most of my teenage life too) and never once thought &#8220;Jewish person&#8221; when that phrase has been mentioned. I guess I just don&#8217;t see N London as primarily one ethnicity or another&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Clive Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/997/comment-page-1#comment-54349</link>
		<dc:creator>Clive Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 12:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;FOURTH ESTATE FOR SALE...&lt;/strong&gt;

An interesting post at Pickled Politics about the reporting of the Birmingham terror case. Yet more evidence of the perils of spin? On a related note, you can tell how serious the problem has become when the head of a...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>FOURTH ESTATE FOR SALE&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>An interesting post at Pickled Politics about the reporting of the Birmingham terror case. Yet more evidence of the perils of spin? On a related note, you can tell how serious the problem has become when the head of a&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chairwoman</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/997/comment-page-1#comment-54345</link>
		<dc:creator>Chairwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 11:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t dispute that for one moment Leon, I always thought he was a bad choice (Tone, that is), it&#039;s just always there. 

 The old buzz phrases, 

&#039;North London Businessman&#039;, &#039;Child of Holocaust survivors&#039;, or the alternatives &#039;Family own a corner shop in Barnsley&#039;, &#039;People in the community&#039;, &#039;I spoke with them after Friday prayers&#039;.

I could go on ad nauseam, but need I bother?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t dispute that for one moment Leon, I always thought he was a bad choice (Tone, that is), it&#8217;s just always there. </p>
<p> The old buzz phrases, </p>
<p>&#8216;North London Businessman&#8217;, &#8216;Child of Holocaust survivors&#8217;, or the alternatives &#8216;Family own a corner shop in Barnsley&#8217;, &#8216;People in the community&#8217;, &#8216;I spoke with them after Friday prayers&#8217;.</p>
<p>I could go on ad nauseam, but need I bother?</p>
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