Now – my impressions re the discussions i hear on this blog, and keep in mind I am a liberal and barely observant ny jew, are this:it is fine for jews to speak for or against Israel as individuals, and it can reflect any specific aspect – we don’t need blanket statements from anyone because then we get rhetoric.
I also understand that muslims speak their opinions. However, jews do not have to speak re Israel one way or the other in order to satisfy the whims of others in the country. They live in england and their behavior in England is what is pertinent. Are democratic principles of justice being served and are the individuals, both jewish and moslem, supportive of this justice? Are all voices heard, and then is the democratic process respected? If the police investigate and make an arrest based upon evidence do all respect this?U talk to death many issues re the middle east when u are threatened from within.

The Jewish nation have never held a collective view of life, we are a Nation of self oppinionists and Mavens.

We are guilty of many traits, The most harnmfull and the biggest cause of Anti Semitism is the self hating Jew, the Jew who changes his or her family name and comes up with some lame excuse, or the Jew who goes out of their way to appease enemies of his people over his own peoples rights.

I dont see the point in bending over back wards to aqppease my enemy and those who proclaim that becuase they are in the arts carry more weight of human understanding and compassion than “the other Jews” who are blind supporters of Israel.

Talk about ” heads up tuchoses” or what!

If you ” Stars ” of Screen, theatre and the Arts are so concerned about people why not be proud and blow the ” Shofar” for your people or the possative facts of what Israel has done since we re-claimed our freedom.

I would like to know why Jews in the ” spot light” do not feel able to openly support their nation and address issues like the rights of the Jews expelled from Islamic nations or support the Israeli soldiers who like it or not are defending the Jewish home land for you in the diaspora incase like our ancestors you had to flee.

If you are so indipendant as you say then act indipendant not as a group this is contradictory, you should talk about unpopular subjcts and issues that the ” other ” Jews are scared to talk about as they may upset the ” Goyim”.

Dont appologise for being associated with Israel, dont distance yourself from those who are fighting to survive. You are all Yids so you might as well be proud yids!

Be strong, show that you are Jews not by being against a goverment policy but by promoting Israel the Jews and your identity.

Dont be scared to think that the only way to be openly Jewish is that you have to knock Israel.

I am not scared to offend people by being a Jew, to me being a Jew is a good thing, a treasure, a gift.

We are a wonderfull nation of givers not takers, talk the truth of Palestine not just what people want to hear! especially from a bunch of yids.

If people dont like it I can argue my point openly in any way I feel is correct.

but I will never go against my people especialy in their hour of need and whilst so many wish to destroy my home land and the rest of us including you!

To all Jewish celebraties and Artists Wear a ” Star of David” next time you are on TV being interviewed or a Hebrew T shirt, lets see how brave you realy are or are you the sterio type yid you too belive to be deep down- Nebbish!

May I commend him or her to Anas’s well written and extensively researched blog. There he or she will find someone who shares at least some of his or her opinions, and who will support him or her in his or her aims.

“Yes, you say you disapprove of what Israel is doing, but are you OUTRAGED by it? Are you DISGUSTED by it? Do you think we should BOYCOTT them? Don’t you think they’re as bad as NAZI GERMANY? Yes, you say that Israel treats Palestinians badly, but I want you to say that it’s GENOCIDE. I want to hear ETHNIC CLEANSING. And if you won’t say GENOCIDE and ETHNIC CLEANSING and NAZI GERMANY then you’re clearly SUPPORTING EVERYTHING ISRAEL DOES!”

Hey no fair Katy, you stole my next blog entry.

oh no! this technique works! now i have to CONDEMN things – you forgot to mention the APARTHEID WALL!! you know, the one that seems to stop suicide bombings.

oops. i have revealed my true colours. hehehe.

b’shalom

bananabrain

“Yes, you say you disapprove of what Israel is doing, but are you OUTRAGED by it? Are you DISGUSTED by it? Do you think we should BOYCOTT them? Don’t you think they’re as bad as NAZI GERMANY? Yes, you say that Israel treats Palestinians badly, but I want you to say that it’s GENOCIDE. I want to hear ETHNIC CLEANSING. And if you won’t say GENOCIDE and ETHNIC CLEANSING and NAZI GERMANY then you’re clearly SUPPORTING EVERYTHING ISRAEL DOES!”

At all times I have said people should sit down and negotiate. I have explained over and over again that negotiation does not mean that one side gives in entirely to the others demands, but all this has fallen on deaf ears. There’s always someone here who says that Israel must do EVERYTHING that the Palestinians want, and more than that, no doubt.

I have tried not to be abusive in return. But really, this is now going too far. This Doctor person has deeply offended me. I am not a person who believes in the divinity of the medical profession, or that their opinions on anything other than medicine are worth more than anybody elses.

Does this person realise that Jewish Israeli doctors treat Palestinians in Israeli hospitals all the time? And not just victims of war, all complaints.

Does he or she know that Mogon Dovid Adom are still not allowed to display the star on their vehicles outside Israel in case Muslims are offended?

Does he or she know that the laws that Israel uses to do all those things that he and his associates loathe (destruction of house for example) are those that were inherited from British rule?

Does he or she know that Israelis also live in fear?

And does he or she care, or doesn’t it matter because they’re only Jews?

And finally, does he or she know that you don’t have to have a religion to be an antisemite? Because his or her comments on Jewish doctors who have the nerve to disagree with him are antisemitic, regardless of what he or she, or anyone else, says.

This is an extremely angry Chairwoman about to spend half an hour in a darkened room!!

I just wish these enthusiasts would realise the effect their words have on people like me.

Far from rallying me to their cause(s), they are so condemnatory and offensive and unable to see that the other side has a point of view, that I start to think ‘What’s the point, why not wholeheartedly support the Government of Israel and their errors, for nobody apart from the Jews gives a damn what happens to us’.

I wish he’d chosen Arsenal.

Whether this is actually him or not I can’t tell, I’d hope it is though, would be very interesting to hear his views on PP posts (broadening out the commenters a bit). Hope he sticks around…

(Google his name for more)