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  • UK public ‘shaming the world’ on Pakistan flood donations

    by Sunny
    25th August, 2010 at 4:56 am    

    This is a nice bit of news.

    The generosity of the British public in helping Pakistan’s flood victims is “shaming politicians around the world”, the head of the Disasters Emergency Committee (DEC) has said. Brendan Gormley, chief executive of the DEC, said the UK public was leading the way in donations, but that further funds were urgently needed.

    The DEC’s Pakistan Floods Appeal has now raised more than £30m.

    I’m going to a fund-raiser this Friday, do attend if you can. All money goes to the DEC appeal.

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    1. Kismet Hardy — on 25th August, 2010 at 8:25 am  

      Flood, you’re like my blood
      Only you flow far away x2
      Flood, you’re no good
      Why don’t you go away x2

      Oh Flood, why don’t you give a dam?
      Oh Flood, ebb off, we don’t need your scam

      Woah Yeah, flood
      Woah Yeah, flood
      I think you misunderstood
      My tears

      • The new single Flood by Bono is out now on Island records. All proceeds go to U2

    2. damon — on 25th August, 2010 at 11:31 am  

      30 Million isn’t very much at all. It’s only the price of a mansion like this one in Park Lane London.

      I’ve never been into these fund raising dinners.
      It’s often just the great and the good who turn up, or rich people who are into charity.

      I read somewhere that the people of Pakistan haven’t been giving much. The wealthy people I mean. Those who have been pretty unaffected by this.
      I don’t know why ordinary people in a place like the UK send off their tenners and twenty quids to a situation like this. Does it do any good actually?

    3. Kismet Hardy — on 25th August, 2010 at 11:43 am  

      “I don’t know why ordinary people in a place like the UK send off their tenners and twenty quids to a situation like this.”

      Oh come on. Without us chipping in our pennies, a nation like Ethiopia wouldn’t be the financial hub of Africa and global economical leader it is today

    4. platinum786 — on 25th August, 2010 at 11:50 am  

      As long as the money isn’t given to the Pakistani government, it shouldn’t be a problem. Any money aid or otherwise that goes into the hands of the Pakistani government, doesn’t get spent on the Pakistani people.

      I’d like to know where people are “hearing” that Pakistani people aren’t donating any money. I was watching a telethon on a Pakistani channel last night were they raised upwards of £1 million. It is true though that the billionaire elite aren’t contributing, but how can we expect contributions from those who are actively taking money from the poor even right now.

    5. damon — on 25th August, 2010 at 1:04 pm  

      I’d like to know where people are “hearing” that Pakistani people aren’t donating any money.

      Fair question: it was on some news programme in the last week - just a line I remember being said. Probably on Channel 4 News or Newsnight, but I can’t be any more specific than that.
      I don’t mean to be too critical when saying such a thing btw - who in Pakistan is really in a position to donate money? The wealthy who got their money how I don’t know, and the ordinary people who have a tradition of giving small amounts regularly at the mosque for example. It’s not a country I’d imagine that has a culture of the ‘Live Aid’ type fundraising.
      I mean, I doubt if much money went from Pakistan to the Haiti earthquake appeal - completely understandably.

    6. Edwin Drood — on 25th August, 2010 at 1:04 pm  

      As it’s a muslim nation set up specifically for and by muslims, the perfect religion they keep telling us, why don’t they just pray to allah?

      Surely this would both solve their immediate water related situation and prove the superiority of islam?

      If of course praying doesn’t work, then perhaps they are the wrong religion. The recent ‘tragedies’ which have happened to mostly muslim countries would seem to suggest that they are praying down the wrong path.

      What about the aid from fellow muslim countries? This aid from the ‘ummah’ must run into billions as we are constantly told muslims are one big happy family.

      Your comments etc….

    7. abdul abulbul emir — on 25th August, 2010 at 1:39 pm  

      Mrs A asks

      Why can’t we just give our money to men of integrity like Rupert Murdoch and Tony Bliar who can look after it safely and make sure it gets spent properly.

      We have to trust our betters in this world Abdul.

      After all that’s why they are where they are and we are where we are.


    8. Soso — on 25th August, 2010 at 1:45 pm  

      I gave via The Church. Donating any other way will just enrich a clique of islamist kleptocrats.

      As it’s a muslim nation set up specifically for and by muslims, the perfect religion they keep telling us, why don’t they just pray to allah?

      Surely this would both solve their immediate water related situation and prove the superiority of islam?

      Perhaps its punishment and retaliation from Allah for all the attacks on India.

      Afterall, and as any pious Muslim will tell you, nothing happens but by the will of Allah.

    9. Kismet Hardy — on 25th August, 2010 at 1:47 pm  

      Sacrilege. May the willy of allah spunk on all you heathens

    10. mk1 — on 25th August, 2010 at 2:53 pm  

      Well the Pakistanis now, after initially telling the West that ‘we do not care about them’, say the money pledged greatly exceeds what the UN asked for:

      And how about Zardari and co set an example to us all. His wealth is in the billions (thanks in part to the Pakistani tax payer) yet someone like Angelina Jolie has donated more than him:

    11. platinum786 — on 25th August, 2010 at 3:07 pm  

      If anyone is actually interested in donating and wants to ensure the money doesn’t go to Zardari, try the Edhi foundation.

      If Edhi was a Christian I’m sure after his death he’d be made a saint.

    12. joe90 — on 25th August, 2010 at 4:25 pm  

      post #10

      I agree the president of pakistan is a billionaire and his bank accounts should be the first port of call to cover costs for any disaster like this flood.

      But being a convicted criminal and fraudster as usual he will get away with it.

    13. Jai — on 25th August, 2010 at 4:26 pm  

      Re: #11

      Someone needs to nominate Edhi for a “CNN Heroes” award as per CNN’s current coverage in advance of their annual awards ceremony, assuming that his name hasn’t been put forward already.

    14. platinum786 — on 25th August, 2010 at 5:04 pm  

      People like Edhi are the reason I know despite everything, Pakistan will come through. Terrorists can’t destroy us, corruption cannot destroy us, poverty cannot destroy us, because the spirit to survive and continue exists.

      Edhi is one example, a great example, but that spirit is found in every corner of Pakistan, it’s what the country runs on.

      Here is another example, Master Ayub, a teacher who has spent his life teaching under privileged children for free in the local park in his spare time.

      At Data Darbar there is a constant langar (free food). Has been for 900 years. The poor come and eat for free. It’s funded by the devotees who visit. Data is not the only darbar with a langar, it’s just a very popular and large scale example. The same data Darbar was targetted by a double suicide bombing earlier this year. Many of those killed were the poor attending the langar.

      I know of private schools in Pakistan where students from poor backgrounds pay lesser fees to study.

      There are endless such examples.

    15. Cronous — on 26th August, 2010 at 2:43 am  

      One wonders whether the high amount of donations in the UK is a result of the Pakistani diaspora as opposed to the generosity of the public at large.

    16. Trofim — on 26th August, 2010 at 9:29 am  

      Cronous @ 15:

      Upton-on-Severn has organised a special event in September for Pakistan. If you look at the video on the site you will see that Upton could hardly be said to be multicultural.

      Perhaps some representatives from PP will be there.

    17. Wasim watio — on 2nd September, 2010 at 11:26 pm  

      It is the inability of the present PPP lead coalition government to have failed in mobilizing the people as a nation in this time of need. People of Pakistan are going through the worst flood of history are increasingly impatient over a lack of food ,water, shelter and other relief goods, criticizing Pakistan government for mismanagement. The government has failed to live upto the expectations of the people in providing relief. The previous regime did wonders when it not only mobilized everyone but also carried out the relief works successfully when the earthquake stroked.
      During the chaotic situation the nation felt pleasant when PM Gillani met Nawaz sharif . Their joint declaration of setting up a trust worthy and transparent tribunal to look after the flow of flood rehabilitation fund was a very positive move. But it did not prove to be turning point when, later, PM announced that Nawaz sharif’s idea of setting up the tribunal is not practical. This stance clearly showed the true colors of the government. The government, both federal and the provincial, have no insight into handling a disaster in an efficient way. This change in PM Gillani’s stance on the issue of transparency and fair distribution raised many eye brows from every segment of the society. The nation once again realized that after all it’s the turn of PM and his cabinet to follow the presidency’s footstep. PM like always tries to portray his “gentlemen” image but fails to do so. It is very unfortunate for the nation that the government has placed an additional authority over the already controversial NDMA just to monitor the flow of funds. That’s the same organization which the government was cursing after the famous trip of PM Gillani to the fake medical camp at Mianwali.

      No doubt , the international community is willing to help us. W must be thankful to Saudi Arabia that has risen up to the occasion. Saudi Kingdom has really gone an extra mile with its effort for the flood victims of Pakistan. On the other hand UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon visit was highly commendable as it projected the entire episode in front of the international community. In addition to this we must be thankful to every state which came to our help in this time of need but the way our political forces have behaved so far, they must be thinking twice before lending a hand to us again. Nobody believes the money will get to those who need.
      Today the world knows Pakistan as a country with excessive corruption and pathetic under-performance of the state institutions. The world wonders what type democracy Pakistan has. Unfortunately the state is captured by small band of political elite which has the control over the resources of the country. Meanwhile I would say that the second so-called major party namely PML (N) is no different from the ruling party PPP. These two parties have looted the wealth for decades. As long as these two corrupt parties keep playing the musical chair game of power with the nation, one must not hope for any improvement to the lives of the people of this country. May Allah bless us and keep our country away from all perils.

    18. damon — on 6th September, 2010 at 12:54 pm  

      platinum786 @4

      I’d like to know where people are “hearing” that Pakistani people aren’t donating any money.

      I heard ex Pakistan cricket captain Imran Khan say just that a couple of hours ago on Talk Sport radio.

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