Comments on: ‘Might offend other passengers’ http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972 Current affairs for a progressive generation Sat, 04 Feb 2012 17:02:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: douglas clark http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52855 douglas clark Thu, 25 Jan 2007 09:58:51 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52855 Mr Squares, Re your link. The point is? Mr Squares,

Re your link. The point is?

]]> By: 天變得歇斯底里超過漠不關 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52588 天變得歇斯底里超過漠不關 Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:22:27 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52588 http://www.thecleverest.com/countdown.swf http://www.thecleverest.com/countdown.swf

]]> By: El Cid http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52585 El Cid Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:40:09 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52585 what's it all about eh Arif? what’s it all about eh Arif?

]]> By: Bert Preast http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52576 Bert Preast Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:53:23 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52576 I don't see it as a security threat, but others might. There is no good reason I can see to frighten them so this bloke can make his political statements. For the Massive Malaga Mutiny, the two are convicted fraudsters so I'll take the word of the 180 people on the plane over theirs, thanks. I don’t see it as a security threat, but others might. There is no good reason I can see to frighten them so this bloke can make his political statements.

For the Massive Malaga Mutiny, the two are convicted fraudsters so I’ll take the word of the 180 people on the plane over theirs, thanks.

]]> By: Sahil http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52575 Sahil Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:50:08 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52575 Thanks for the links, but nothing there indicates that the passengers knew anything about the two, or that the idiots said 'bombs', 'die' or 'terrorist' whilst in the plane. Why assume they were a security threat? Plus again how is wearing a t-shirt saying terrorist in any context a security threat. Damn stupid, insulting, YES, security threat, how? Thanks for the links, but nothing there indicates that the passengers knew anything about the two, or that the idiots said ‘bombs’, ‘die’ or ‘terrorist’ whilst in the plane. Why assume they were a security threat? Plus again how is wearing a t-shirt saying terrorist in any context a security threat. Damn stupid, insulting, YES, security threat, how?

]]> By: Bert Preast http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52573 Bert Preast Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:44:57 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52573 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/manchester/6037697.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/manchester/6037697.stm

]]> By: Bert Preast http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52572 Bert Preast Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:41:28 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52572 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/730 http://www.blogcharm.com/eeore/44523/Daily+Mirror+Hoax+Sparks+Racist+Alarm.html http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/730

http://www.blogcharm.com/eeore/44523/Daily+Mirror+Hoax+Sparks+Racist+Alarm.html

]]> By: Sahil http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52571 Sahil Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:35:55 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52571 Since when, can you link me up? Assuming the above is true what does that have to do with them being kicked off their aeroplane. Did anyone on the plane know that they were attention seekers, or conmen. Did anyone on the aeroplane understand urdu, and what conversation they were having? I'm saying this paranoia thing is absurd. Since when, can you link me up?

Assuming the above is true what does that have to do with them being kicked off their aeroplane. Did anyone on the plane know that they were attention seekers, or conmen. Did anyone on the aeroplane understand urdu, and what conversation they were having? I’m saying this paranoia thing is absurd.

]]> By: Bert Preast http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52570 Bert Preast Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:32:15 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52570 Er, they were also attention seekers. And con men. Er, they were also attention seekers. And con men.

]]> By: Sahil http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52569 Sahil Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:26:14 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52569 Okay, I do get that. What I am saying is that there are words that are scary without any context. Frankly Bert I am also thinking about the two boys who got kicked off their plane because they were speaking in urdu, and someone got scared and demanded that they get off the plane. Okay, I do get that. What I am saying is that there are words that are scary without any context. Frankly Bert I am also thinking about the two boys who got kicked off their plane because they were speaking in urdu, and someone got scared and demanded that they get off the plane.

]]> By: Bert Preast http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52568 Bert Preast Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:23:32 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52568 It's the word terrorist, nothing to do with Bush, USA, OBL, or anything else. It's not a word anyone in their right mind would wear on an airliner. It's only likely to scare people - there are children on planes, remember. "Daddy, is that man a terrorist? Will he blow us all up?" If I'm having trouble explaining this to you lot, put yourself in the position of that daddy trying to explain it to his kid. It’s the word terrorist, nothing to do with Bush, USA, OBL, or anything else. It’s not a word anyone in their right mind would wear on an airliner. It’s only likely to scare people – there are children on planes, remember. “Daddy, is that man a terrorist? Will he blow us all up?”

If I’m having trouble explaining this to you lot, put yourself in the position of that daddy trying to explain it to his kid.

]]> By: Sahil http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52567 Sahil Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:22:10 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52567 sorry churlish sorry churlish

]]> By: Sahil http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52566 Sahil Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:19:32 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52566 But why? I just don't get this? The word terrorist automatically makes people paranoid on a airplane? Can I wear a t-shirt saying 'Allah praise the freedom fighters' but not 'terrorist are wankers'. You don't sound like a shurlish person to me Bert, so why the sematic issue? But why? I just don’t get this? The word terrorist automatically makes people paranoid on a airplane? Can I wear a t-shirt saying ‘Allah praise the freedom fighters’ but not ‘terrorist are wankers’. You don’t sound like a shurlish person to me Bert, so why the sematic issue?

]]> By: Bert Preast http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52565 Bert Preast Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:12:35 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52565 Nope. How is it so hard to avoid the word terrorist completely? Nope. How is it so hard to avoid the word terrorist completely?

]]> By: Sahil http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52564 Sahil Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:49:55 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52564 Okay can I wear a t-shirt stating 'terrorists are wankers' on a plane? Okay can I wear a t-shirt stating ‘terrorists are wankers’ on a plane?

]]> By: Bert Preast http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52563 Bert Preast Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:48:22 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52563 Sahil - I didn't say it was a threat and I don't care if it offends people. I said many people boarding planes are nervous and can do without seeing the word terrorist on their fellow travellers' clothing. It wouldn't be okay for a Saudi to wear a jihadi headband, so why is it okay for this bloke? Sahil – I didn’t say it was a threat and I don’t care if it offends people. I said many people boarding planes are nervous and can do without seeing the word terrorist on their fellow travellers’ clothing. It wouldn’t be okay for a Saudi to wear a jihadi headband, so why is it okay for this bloke?

]]> By: Arif http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52561 Arif Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:43:14 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52561 Intermediate grammar I express myself appropriately in the given context You misunderstand the context and are thin-skinned He/She is saying something that cannot be justified in any circumstances and will obviously cause people to get violent We define the context as it makes sense to us You (plural) are insensitive to the context and have misunderstood it so should expect a backlash. They are constructing a convenient fictitious story about the context in order to justify the unjustifiable. Intermediate grammar

I express myself appropriately in the given context
You misunderstand the context and are thin-skinned
He/She is saying something that cannot be justified in any circumstances and will obviously cause people to get violent
We define the context as it makes sense to us
You (plural) are insensitive to the context and have misunderstood it so should expect a backlash.
They are constructing a convenient fictitious story about the context in order to justify the unjustifiable.

]]> By: Sahil http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52559 Sahil Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:41:42 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52559 Bert agreed that he is a attention seeker, but how can his t-shirt that insults Bush be a security threat? I agree that it'll be offensive to some, but I'd say it'd be trendy to many young people. Just explain to me how this is a security threat, compared to an insult to an individual. Bert agreed that he is a attention seeker, but how can his t-shirt that insults Bush be a security threat? I agree that it’ll be offensive to some, but I’d say it’d be trendy to many young people. Just explain to me how this is a security threat, compared to an insult to an individual.

]]> By: Bert Preast http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52555 Bert Preast Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:06:00 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52555 "Bert, a school is nothing like as school. Do you wear a uniform while on a flight?" I think I know what you mean here. No, I don't wear a uniform unless you count union jack boxers, and I agree an airliner has little in common with a school. I have no problem with this bloke mincing up and down the high street in his cool tshirt, nor even him boarding buses and trains. This is because other people boarding buses and trains are not usually nervous over terrorism. However, these days quite a number of people boarding aeroplanes are nervous about terrorism and can do without this bloke bringing up the subject at any opportunity. Also as I proved above, he's just a fanatical Yank-basher trying to get noticed. And quite possibly insane. “Bert, a school is nothing like as school. Do you wear a uniform while on a flight?”

I think I know what you mean here. No, I don’t wear a uniform unless you count union jack boxers, and I agree an airliner has little in common with a school. I have no problem with this bloke mincing up and down the high street in his cool tshirt, nor even him boarding buses and trains. This is because other people boarding buses and trains are not usually nervous over terrorism. However, these days quite a number of people boarding aeroplanes are nervous about terrorism and can do without this bloke bringing up the subject at any opportunity.

Also as I proved above, he’s just a fanatical Yank-basher trying to get noticed. And quite possibly insane.

]]> By: El Cid http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52554 El Cid Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:51:44 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/972#comment-52554 Maybe the answer is in the context -- freedom of speech on a plane vs freedom of speech on the streets. It's a bit like freedom of speech on tv before the watershed and after (or freedom of speech inside a mosque vs outside!). Does that help with your "grammar" lesson Arif? Maybe the answer is in the context — freedom of speech on a plane vs freedom of speech on the streets. It’s a bit like freedom of speech on tv before the watershed and after (or freedom of speech inside a mosque vs outside!). Does that help with your “grammar” lesson Arif?

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