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		<title>By: Ravi Naik</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/950#comment-50687</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Naik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 16:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;If consensus, social integration, and general peace and love are to be advanced, we need to be more relaxed about religion and judge things on a case by case basis.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;ve always seen secularism as a way to protect people from religious persecution or from attaining a second-class status for their religious beliefs. I don&#039;t think secularism gives more power to atheists, which I believe has all the traits of religion, including faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;If consensus, social integration, and general peace and love are to be advanced, we need to be more relaxed about religion and judge things on a case by case basis.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always seen secularism as a way to protect people from religious persecution or from attaining a second-class status for their religious beliefs. I don&#8217;t think secularism gives more power to atheists, which I believe has all the traits of religion, including faith.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Naik</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/950#comment-50685</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Naik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 16:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should expand the Star Trek universe (pun intended) with new characters, rather then using the same old characters which have been associated with Nimoy and Shatner for decades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should expand the Star Trek universe (pun intended) with new characters, rather then using the same old characters which have been associated with Nimoy and Shatner for decades.</p>
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		<title>By: Chairwoman</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/950#comment-50680</link>
		<dc:creator>Chairwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 11:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been a devotÃ©e of Startrek since it first started, I am obviously in shock, but own up, have you seen William Shatner lately?  Even an old broad like myself shudders at the thought of him in spandex!

Oh, and wrinkly, green, pointy ears?  I don&#039;t think so, Picklers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been a devotÃ©e of Startrek since it first started, I am obviously in shock, but own up, have you seen William Shatner lately?  Even an old broad like myself shudders at the thought of him in spandex!</p>
<p>Oh, and wrinkly, green, pointy ears?  I don&#8217;t think so, Picklers.</p>
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		<title>By: El Cid</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/950#comment-50679</link>
		<dc:creator>El Cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 11:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this, and it reminded me of a recent discussion on schools:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1984003,00.html
I wouldn&#039;t have adopted such a conspiratorial tone as the writer since - without meaning to be patronising -- I think militant atheists know not what they do sometimes. I&#039;m not seeking confrontation -- even though I&#039;m disappointed I wasn&#039;t crowned belligerent pickler of the year 8) -- but intolerance is intolerance is intolerance. If consensus, social integration, and general peace and love are to be advanced, we need to be more relaxed about religion and judge things on a case by case basis. Everything is ok in moderation.

I&#039;m reminded about my own position on the monarchy. I used to be an ardent republican, but nowadays I couldn&#039;t give a toss (I think I&#039;m safe in saying that that&#039;s the majority view). I accept that the Queen etc is a symbol of the nation and a figurative head of state. There is no danger of a democratically elected Parliament&#039;s -- or more accurately, the government&#039;s -- sovereignty being usurped by the monarchy. There are also advantages to being born into the position rather than lying your way to it. In what way exactly would a politician President be significantly better than a jug-eared King? It&#039;s not a compelling argument. 
But then -- and this is the key bit -- I still feel I (and people like me) have more in common with republicans than with monarchists. I might tell republicans that I&#039;m not really that bothered about it anymore and anyway, it is part of our history and culture, so why change it? But I don&#039;t even mix socially with flag-waving toby jug-collecting Daily Mail-reading monarchists.

Na&#039;at&#039;a mean soops? Ya get me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this, and it reminded me of a recent discussion on schools:<br />
<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1984003,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1984003,00.html</a><br />
I wouldn&#8217;t have adopted such a conspiratorial tone as the writer since &#8211; without meaning to be patronising &#8212; I think militant atheists know not what they do sometimes. I&#8217;m not seeking confrontation &#8212; even though I&#8217;m disappointed I wasn&#8217;t crowned belligerent pickler of the year <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8212; but intolerance is intolerance is intolerance. If consensus, social integration, and general peace and love are to be advanced, we need to be more relaxed about religion and judge things on a case by case basis. Everything is ok in moderation.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m reminded about my own position on the monarchy. I used to be an ardent republican, but nowadays I couldn&#8217;t give a toss (I think I&#8217;m safe in saying that that&#8217;s the majority view). I accept that the Queen etc is a symbol of the nation and a figurative head of state. There is no danger of a democratically elected Parliament&#8217;s &#8212; or more accurately, the government&#8217;s &#8212; sovereignty being usurped by the monarchy. There are also advantages to being born into the position rather than lying your way to it. In what way exactly would a politician President be significantly better than a jug-eared King? It&#8217;s not a compelling argument.<br />
But then &#8212; and this is the key bit &#8212; I still feel I (and people like me) have more in common with republicans than with monarchists. I might tell republicans that I&#8217;m not really that bothered about it anymore and anyway, it is part of our history and culture, so why change it? But I don&#8217;t even mix socially with flag-waving toby jug-collecting Daily Mail-reading monarchists.</p>
<p>Na&#8217;at&#8217;a mean soops? Ya get me?</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/950#comment-50676</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 01:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Nothing could be worse than British science fiction of the 60â€™s and 70â€™s with itâ€™s cloth and plastic monsters&#039;

It was a Golden Age, damn your eyes.</description>
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<p>It was a Golden Age, damn your eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/950#comment-50675</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 00:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZinZin, cheers but no probs I&#039;ve a few people willing to lend me a copy, will get round to reading it one of these days...</description>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/950#comment-50673</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 00:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mentioning Star Trek. Tonight on BBC4 10.30 there was a prgramme on science fiction acting. Nothing could be worse than British science fiction of the 60&#039;s and 70&#039;s with it&#039;s cloth and plastic monsters doing gawky clumsy baby movements and it&#039;s workshop echo sound track. The New Generation seemed ok after thoughts of would it work without the original cast and characters. Maybe the new Spock and Kirk will become just as familiar, freindly and homely after a short while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mentioning Star Trek. Tonight on BBC4 10.30 there was a prgramme on science fiction acting. Nothing could be worse than British science fiction of the 60&#8242;s and 70&#8242;s with it&#8217;s cloth and plastic monsters doing gawky clumsy baby movements and it&#8217;s workshop echo sound track. The New Generation seemed ok after thoughts of would it work without the original cast and characters. Maybe the new Spock and Kirk will become just as familiar, freindly and homely after a short while.</p>
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		<title>By: El Cid</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/950#comment-50672</link>
		<dc:creator>El Cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 20:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or George Michael redoing Stevie Wonder&#039;s As. What you mean, he did? Ain&#039;t nothing sacred?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or George Michael redoing Stevie Wonder&#8217;s As. What you mean, he did? Ain&#8217;t nothing sacred?</p>
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		<title>By: El Cid</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/950#comment-50671</link>
		<dc:creator>El Cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 20:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing I imagine worse would be George Segal doing a remake of Enter the Dragon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing I imagine worse would be George Segal doing a remake of Enter the Dragon</p>
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		<title>By: El Cid</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/950#comment-50670</link>
		<dc:creator>El Cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 20:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soru, please, The Italian Job is a classic boys movie. Quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soru, please, The Italian Job is a classic boys movie. Quality.</p>
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		<title>By: soru</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/950#comment-50669</link>
		<dc:creator>soru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 20:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can != should</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can != should</p>
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		<title>By: ZinZin</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/950#comment-50668</link>
		<dc:creator>ZinZin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 20:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am surprised that you have not read BNW as Huxley has had a great influence on the 20th century and a lot of his predictions have come true. Read Nicholas Murrays biography. A great intellectual who is not given enough credit.

I will happily loan out my copy if your interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am surprised that you have not read BNW as Huxley has had a great influence on the 20th century and a lot of his predictions have come true. Read Nicholas Murrays biography. A great intellectual who is not given enough credit.</p>
<p>I will happily loan out my copy if your interested.</p>
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		<title>By: El Cid</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/950#comment-50667</link>
		<dc:creator>El Cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 20:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they can remake The Italian Job, they can do anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they can remake The Italian Job, they can do anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/950#comment-50664</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 19:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give it time; winter now happens in February and sometimes runs until early March...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give it time; winter now happens in February and sometimes runs until early March&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kulvinder</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/950#comment-50663</link>
		<dc:creator>Kulvinder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 19:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Winter isn&#039;t cold anymore, which is a tad dissapointing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Winter isn&#8217;t cold anymore, which is a tad dissapointing.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/950#comment-50659</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 17:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talking of TV, anyone else here like Peep Show?</description>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 17:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Katy, man oh man is that more WRONG!</description>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 17:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a sense it&#039;s a shame it&#039;s in his hands and not JMS (creator of Babylon 5), he and one of the guys who created Dark Skies came up with a treatment for &quot;re-booting&quot; franchise a few years back: http://bztv.typepad.com/newsviews/files/ST2004Reboot.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a sense it&#8217;s a shame it&#8217;s in his hands and not JMS (creator of Babylon 5), he and one of the guys who created Dark Skies came up with a treatment for &#8220;re-booting&#8221; franchise a few years back: <a href="http://bztv.typepad.com/newsviews/files/ST2004Reboot.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://bztv.typepad.com/newsviews/files/ST2004Reboot.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jai</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/950#comment-50654</link>
		<dc:creator>Jai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the next Star Trek movie, apparently the guy behind Alias, Lost, MI:3 etc (JJ Abrams) is going to be behind it, so it may well undergo quite an unexpected transformation in style compared to previous films in the franchise.

Regarding Shilpa Shetty -- for the benefit of those unfamiliar with her -- she used to be a fairly lightweight &quot;cute&quot; type in her on-screen persona, until she decided to revamp it a couple of years ago and became very glamorous indeed, turning herself into the long-haired svelte leggy supermodel type that you saw when she first made her entrance to the new BB house. Apparently she pursues a fairly punishing exercise routine these days too, so she&#039;s known for being one of the physically fittest actresses in Bollywood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the next Star Trek movie, apparently the guy behind Alias, Lost, MI:3 etc (JJ Abrams) is going to be behind it, so it may well undergo quite an unexpected transformation in style compared to previous films in the franchise.</p>
<p>Regarding Shilpa Shetty &#8212; for the benefit of those unfamiliar with her &#8212; she used to be a fairly lightweight &#8220;cute&#8221; type in her on-screen persona, until she decided to revamp it a couple of years ago and became very glamorous indeed, turning herself into the long-haired svelte leggy supermodel type that you saw when she first made her entrance to the new BB house. Apparently she pursues a fairly punishing exercise routine these days too, so she&#8217;s known for being one of the physically fittest actresses in Bollywood.</p>
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		<title>By: Katy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Leon, I know.  It is wrong.  And bad.

But arguably not as wrong and bad as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.swapz.co.uk/wantedz/dolls_plush/inflatible_woman/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Leon, I know.  It is wrong.  And bad.</p>
<p>But arguably not as wrong and bad as <a href="http://www.swapz.co.uk/wantedz/dolls_plush/inflatible_woman/" rel="nofollow">this</a></p>
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