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		<title>By: soru</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/924/comment-page-1#comment-46829</link>
		<dc:creator>soru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant &lt;a href=&quot;https://eteraz.wordpress.com/2006/04/13/i-am-a-dark-elf/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nerd&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant <a href="https://eteraz.wordpress.com/2006/04/13/i-am-a-dark-elf/" rel="nofollow">nerd</a></p>
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		<title>By: soru</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/924/comment-page-1#comment-46828</link>
		<dc:creator>soru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whaever Eteraz’s politics, he is definitely a way big &lt;a&gt;nerd&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whaever Eteraz’s politics, he is definitely a way big <a>nerd</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jai</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/924/comment-page-1#comment-46814</link>
		<dc:creator>Jai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 18:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>=&gt;&quot;Jai Sonia&quot;

Sounds like we&#039;re the new Brangelina.

Not as hot as Anjailina though, mind you ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>=&gt;&#8221;Jai Sonia&#8221;</p>
<p>Sounds like we&#8217;re the new Brangelina.</p>
<p>Not as hot as Anjailina though, mind you <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/dablog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/924/comment-page-1#comment-46812</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 18:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jai Sonia

I agree that that a strict linear way of looking at things doesn&#039;t work. It is all about factors, conditions, politics, peoples pyches, religion, sequence of events, cycles, people and groups percieving causation and more cycles. I am watching the world and still trying to work it all out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jai Sonia</p>
<p>I agree that that a strict linear way of looking at things doesn&#8217;t work. It is all about factors, conditions, politics, peoples pyches, religion, sequence of events, cycles, people and groups percieving causation and more cycles. I am watching the world and still trying to work it all out.</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/924/comment-page-1#comment-46792</link>
		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 13:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>4. Jai - good one. :-) of course everything feeds into everything else! structure and agency. might as well be time we all recognized that and things don&#039;t work one way  or linearly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4. Jai &#8211; good one. <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/dablog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  of course everything feeds into everything else! structure and agency. might as well be time we all recognized that and things don&#8217;t work one way  or linearly.</p>
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		<title>By: Chairwoman</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/924/comment-page-1#comment-46715</link>
		<dc:creator>Chairwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 19:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to be, Sid :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to be, Sid <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/dablog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sid</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/924/comment-page-1#comment-46712</link>
		<dc:creator>Sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 19:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ramble On! CW auntyji is one cool cookie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ramble On! CW auntyji is one cool cookie.</p>
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		<title>By: Sahil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sahil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 18:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YES!!!!!!!  TELL MORE!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES!!!!!!!  TELL MORE!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 18:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No! Continue the derail! Er over at the open weekend thread------------&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No! Continue the derail! Er over at the open weekend thread&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Chairwoman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chairwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 18:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes and Yes.  I knew him before Zep, and also for a while afterwards.  I&#039;ve got an old &#039;Access all areas&#039; pass somewhere.  I&#039; ve also got a Live Aid one, amongst others, but most of those were the late Chairman&#039;s who was in the music business.  I&#039;d better stop now before Sunny tells me off for de-railing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes and Yes.  I knew him before Zep, and also for a while afterwards.  I&#8217;ve got an old &#8216;Access all areas&#8217; pass somewhere.  I&#8217; ve also got a Live Aid one, amongst others, but most of those were the late Chairman&#8217;s who was in the music business.  I&#8217;d better stop now before Sunny tells me off for de-railing</p>
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		<title>By: Anas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 18:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;but Jimmy Page was a friend when we were young.&lt;/i&gt;

Wow! You must have some stories to tell!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>but Jimmy Page was a friend when we were young.</i></p>
<p>Wow! You must have some stories to tell!</p>
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		<title>By: Anas</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/924/comment-page-1#comment-46694</link>
		<dc:creator>Anas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 18:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Who?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Who?</p>
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		<title>By: Sahil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sahil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 18:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Love the bastard.  But as a bass player more a fan of John paul jones, however, I&#039;ve never seen a band where everyone one of them is a musical genius and actually create something constructive, maybe Tool!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Love the bastard.  But as a bass player more a fan of John paul jones, however, I&#8217;ve never seen a band where everyone one of them is a musical genius and actually create something constructive, maybe Tool!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 18:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Er at the Jimmy Page thing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er at the Jimmy Page thing!</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/924/comment-page-1#comment-46691</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 18:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Innit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Innit!</p>
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		<title>By: Anas</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/924/comment-page-1#comment-46690</link>
		<dc:creator>Anas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 18:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger, I&#039;m sorry, I don&#039;t agree with your analysis. I don&#039;t think Israel&#039;s actions are merely down to murderous incompetence; rather the murders, demolitions, enforced impoverishment and starvation, and the attempts at destroying civil society, are all part of longterm strategy to render Palestinian existence in Gaza unviable. 

&lt;i&gt;Maybe Ali is just a bit more nuanced and intelligent (you may want to read the articles to debate him specifically) than you so-called ‘real’ Muslims want to admit.&lt;/i&gt; 

I&#039;m not denying that Ali is a hugely intelligent and often very perceptive commentator, nor am I even remotely qualified to judge whether he is a real or true Muslim or not, I just disagree with the guy on certain things to do with politics. 

And yes, I have read his articles and commented on them, &lt;a href=&quot;http://eteraz.wordpress.com/2006/10/31/satellite-illogic/#comment-14723&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; on his rather negligent opinions on I/P and &lt;a href=&quot;http://eteraz.wordpress.com/2006/08/24/the-fanatics-not-foreign-policy/#comment-7572&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; here&lt;/a&gt; on the contention he shares with you that it&#039;s &quot;the fanatics not the foreign policy&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger, I&#8217;m sorry, I don&#8217;t agree with your analysis. I don&#8217;t think Israel&#8217;s actions are merely down to murderous incompetence; rather the murders, demolitions, enforced impoverishment and starvation, and the attempts at destroying civil society, are all part of longterm strategy to render Palestinian existence in Gaza unviable. </p>
<p><i>Maybe Ali is just a bit more nuanced and intelligent (you may want to read the articles to debate him specifically) than you so-called ‘real’ Muslims want to admit.</i> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not denying that Ali is a hugely intelligent and often very perceptive commentator, nor am I even remotely qualified to judge whether he is a real or true Muslim or not, I just disagree with the guy on certain things to do with politics. </p>
<p>And yes, I have read his articles and commented on them, <a href="http://eteraz.wordpress.com/2006/10/31/satellite-illogic/#comment-14723" rel="nofollow">here</a> on his rather negligent opinions on I/P and <a href="http://eteraz.wordpress.com/2006/08/24/the-fanatics-not-foreign-policy/#comment-7572" rel="nofollow"> here</a> on the contention he shares with you that it&#8217;s &#8220;the fanatics not the foreign policy&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sahil</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/924/comment-page-1#comment-46689</link>
		<dc:creator>Sahil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 18:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’m just prone to be wary of people who don’t like Led Zeppelin&quot;

True, but not sure about Prince, even though he&#039;s really gifted.

Chairwoman, are you serious????????????????????? You know Jimmy Page.  Did you ever get to see the band??

That&#039;s so cooooooooolll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m just prone to be wary of people who don’t like Led Zeppelin&#8221;</p>
<p>True, but not sure about Prince, even though he&#8217;s really gifted.</p>
<p>Chairwoman, are you serious????????????????????? You know Jimmy Page.  Did you ever get to see the band??</p>
<p>That&#8217;s so cooooooooolll.</p>
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		<title>By: Chairwoman</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/924/comment-page-1#comment-46686</link>
		<dc:creator>Chairwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 17:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love Coltrane, not keen on Prince, but Jimmy Page was a friend when we were young.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love Coltrane, not keen on Prince, but Jimmy Page was a friend when we were young.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 17:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I’m just prone to be wary of people who don’t like Led Zeppelin or Prince or Coltrane or support the Euston Manifesto.&lt;/i&gt;

Well said. Especially the Zeppelin thing.;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’m just prone to be wary of people who don’t like Led Zeppelin or Prince or Coltrane or support the Euston Manifesto.</i></p>
<p>Well said. Especially the Zeppelin thing.;)</p>
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		<title>By: Sid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 17:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all good. We&#039;re talking about States of Islam. If &#039;hal&#039; is a Muslim&#039;s state of being, spiritually, philosophically, ontologically, cosmologically and hormonally then I dig and respect Eteraz&#039;s state. He&#039;s compassionate in the same way Hirsi Ali is self-serving.

I&#039;m just prone to be wary of people who don&#039;t like Led Zeppelin or Prince or Coltrane or support the Euston Manifesto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all good. We&#8217;re talking about States of Islam. If &#8216;hal&#8217; is a Muslim&#8217;s state of being, spiritually, philosophically, ontologically, cosmologically and hormonally then I dig and respect Eteraz&#8217;s state. He&#8217;s compassionate in the same way Hirsi Ali is self-serving.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just prone to be wary of people who don&#8217;t like Led Zeppelin or Prince or Coltrane or support the Euston Manifesto.</p>
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