Monty facing problems in Australia


by Sunny
14th November, 2006 at 1:44 pm    

ENGLAND spin bowler Monty Panesar was racially abused by an Australian cricket fan in a warm-up match ahead of the eagerly anticipated Ashes series, according to a report.

The bearded Sikh was called a “stupid Indian” during a tour match against New South Wales at the Sydney Cricket Ground on Sunday, according to The Daily Telegraph newspaper.

The incident comes after Australian cricket authorities warned fans that “idiots” would not be tolerated at the grounds in the wake of racial abuse hurled at South African players during a tour earlier this year. [The Australian]

via Dave Hill. It’s not like this doesn’t happen regularly.


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  1. sandeep — on 14th November, 2006 at 1:59 pm  

    It wasnt so long ago British Pakistani fans were abusing Saj Mahmood and calling him a traitor! The WIs too have been subject to racist abuse from Indian fans during previous tours!

    This has just been blown out of proportion! Wait til the tests starts, he’ll face more abuse from the likes of mcgrath and warne!

  2. sandeep — on 14th November, 2006 at 2:00 pm  

    We should also note that monty and the ecb didnt want to make any sort of formal complaint and described this as a ‘non-issue’

  3. Jagdeep — on 14th November, 2006 at 2:01 pm  

    But you need to keep it in perspective – just one person in a crowd does not make Australia a racist nation.

  4. Jagdeep — on 14th November, 2006 at 2:06 pm  

    sandeep are you an Aussie? Because Monty and the lads are going to stuff that rabble down under. Just wait and see.

  5. funkg — on 14th November, 2006 at 2:12 pm  

    we should’nt make a great deal of this, there are probably quite a few herberts in oz they are renowned for their forthrightness

  6. Kismet Hardy — on 14th November, 2006 at 2:14 pm  

    I base everything I know about Australia squarely on Neighbours, Home & Away and Fosters Adverts.

    Ergo, there are no black or brown people in Australia.

  7. Sahil — on 14th November, 2006 at 3:41 pm  

    Wonder if this has anything to do with it:

    http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,,20718752-5003413,00.html

  8. Kismet Hardy — on 14th November, 2006 at 3:46 pm  

    Time to dig out a dusty old gag…

    When I went to Australia they asked me if I had any criminal convictions.

    I didn’t realise you still needed one to go there

  9. Kulvinder — on 14th November, 2006 at 4:36 pm  

    I’ve just skim read today since im in a hurry, but is that really considered racial abuse?!!!?

  10. Kismet Hardy — on 14th November, 2006 at 4:38 pm  

    the word stupid isn’t racial abuse. the word Indian isn’t racist either. Put the two together and the meaning changes

    A bit like pretty and awful

  11. Rav — on 14th November, 2006 at 4:45 pm  

    Well, saying ‘You’re a stupid Indian who can’t speak English, you can’t play for England because you’re a stupid Indian’ is pretty racist.

  12. Kulvinder — on 14th November, 2006 at 5:17 pm  

    I wish Panesar well and wouldn’t want those types of comments to continue, but they are australians. It really isn’t that big a deal.

  13. ZinZin — on 14th November, 2006 at 5:26 pm  

    Sahil

    Checked your link. Its not racist what Martyn did but its appalling bad manners its like telling the Duchess of Kent to do one after recieving the FA cup. Still they are Aussie cricketers the most obnoxious and ungracious sportsmen on the planet. Also lets not forget that they have an inferiority complex with regards the British

  14. Kulvinder — on 14th November, 2006 at 5:57 pm  

    NB stereotyping all australians was intentional

  15. ZinZin — on 14th November, 2006 at 6:15 pm  

    Stereotypes are sadly based on elements of truth. It is a guilty pleasure that in which all of us indulge. In fact i love how aussie typecast the english is whingers. It is true after all.

    Typical aussie joke;

    How do you know when a plane of poms has landed?

    The whining continues even when the engine is switched off.

  16. Don — on 14th November, 2006 at 6:44 pm  

    English immigrant to Oz, after six months, asked how he feels about Australia;

    ‘Wonderful. The endless sky, the marvel of the Great Barrier Reef, the haunting beauty of the outback, the vibrant cities.’

    ‘What about the bugs?’

    ‘Endlessly fascinating, such diversity and adaptability. One could spend a lifetime discovering new marvels.’

    ‘And the food?’

    ‘Amazing, such a variety of fresh produce, the exiting development of fusion cuisine. And of course the terrific, hospitable barbies. And the opportunities for sport! A wonderful place to raise a family.’

    ‘Culture?’

    It’s so exciting to discover new and vigouorous voices in poetry and the novel, to see how art is exploring and re-examining ancient traditions, the architecure … breathtaking.’

    ‘The people?’

    ‘Salt of the earth. Honest, forthright and reliable, yet forward looking and respected around the world.’

    ‘What about the weather?’

    ‘Outstanding, although it can get a little warm …’

    ‘Oh, bloody whinging poms.’

  17. sabinaahmed — on 14th November, 2006 at 7:06 pm  

    Ah Kismet
    A man close to my heart, I too only know Australia from Neighbours. Can I discuss the latest going ons in the series with you on this blog? Please!
    Everything and everyone else seems high brow and itelligent on these pages that i cant say anything,and me not understand anything.Me dont know good english.

  18. El Cid — on 14th November, 2006 at 7:27 pm  

    Kismet,
    I would like to point out one teeny-weeny flaw in your argument #6
    Starts with A, then there’s a b, and an o….. as Australia’s answer to Velasquez is prone to say “Can you see what it is yet?”

  19. ZinZin — on 14th November, 2006 at 7:29 pm  

    He was taking the wee-wee.

  20. El Cid — on 14th November, 2006 at 7:37 pm  

    so am i

  21. ZinZin — on 14th November, 2006 at 7:44 pm  

    Taking the wee-wee out of someone taking the wee-wee?

  22. ZinZin — on 14th November, 2006 at 7:47 pm  

    Another point at the risk of derailing this thread is Panesar as good as the hype suggests? I haven’t seen him bowl as sky owns the broadcasting rights to the test matches.

  23. El Cid — on 14th November, 2006 at 7:49 pm  

    um, yes… just your usual friendly chit-chat.. obviously not as rip-roaring hilarious as your original material :)

  24. El Cid — on 14th November, 2006 at 7:50 pm  

    I guess that’s taking the wee-wee out of the person objecting to having the wee wee taken out of a person taking the wee-wee :) :)

  25. El Cid — on 14th November, 2006 at 7:52 pm  

    anyway, whats this boring game of cricket all about? is it like baseball?

  26. El Cid — on 14th November, 2006 at 7:52 pm  

    :)

  27. ZinZin — on 14th November, 2006 at 7:58 pm  

    Stop it El Cid my sides are splitting.

  28. BevanKieran — on 14th November, 2006 at 8:07 pm  

    Here’s the footage from the Champions Trophy

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjSJ3qoLJ8k

  29. El Cid — on 14th November, 2006 at 8:16 pm  

    I guess it was rude.
    But good on ‘em I say. Too many times we have officials trying to take some of the limelight.
    Just give him the damn trophy and get out of the way dingbat!
    Having said that I remember when Spain played Australia in the Davis Cup and they played the wrong national anthem (something from when Spain was a republic in the 1930s). Anyway, they only went and did it again 4 years later. Now that was well out of order. C’mon England (I fear the worst though)

  30. Anon+1 — on 14th November, 2006 at 8:53 pm  

    “Stupid Indian” … wow what a shocking insult. Tbh this PC thing is getting very boring, theres more important things to raise a fuss over.

  31. Sahil — on 14th November, 2006 at 11:53 pm  

    Hi ZinZin, I’m not saying it was racist. Like you said it was just bad manners. But I wonder whether the Aussies are pissed with the ICB decision to let go Darrel Hair. And most people assume the ICB is run by the Indians, as that’s where the cash is. Or it simply could be people are trying to put him off his game. Or that individual could just be a dick who drank too much kangeroo piss. Another interesting take from Lawrence Booth:

    http://sport.guardian.co.uk/ashes2006-07/story/0,,1944481,00.html

  32. sniggerz — on 15th November, 2006 at 7:55 am  

    This isn’t a one of incident, they’ve been a few incidents everywhere over the years. An incident doesn’t predetermine the behavior of an entire nation nor does it reflect on a nation’s mind set. Black sheep don’t originate from one particular area, you find them all over the place in many forms.
    I agree it wasn’t called for like a lot of things aren’t, the problem doesn’t get solved by pointing fingers at each other and calling a certain group “racists”. If these kind of incidents are narrowed down to be coming from a certain area, then there is a problem, which needs to be identified and dealt with instead of tarnishing the imagine of the masses.

  33. Kismet Hardy — on 15th November, 2006 at 10:59 am  

    El Cid, you’re absolutely right once again damn your eyes. I saw those abo chaps in crocodile dundee. But they live in the jungle and eat ants and can’t afford clothes so I don’t think they play cricket

  34. funkg — on 16th November, 2006 at 10:21 am  

    Many Aussies however friendly and benign, can often be a little too blunt and forthright in their descriptions of others, descriptions of wogs (all encompassing) lebs etc. Chairwoman commented on how the English are generally too polite to use these slurs outright and in public. I know of many Aussies who have “come a cropper’ with their remarks in multikulti London. The saying ‘Come a cropper” derives from hunting, where it originally meant a heavy fall from a horse.

  35. Electro — on 16th November, 2006 at 9:02 pm  

    The use of such a term is, at least, very inappropriate.

  36. Debbie(aussie) — on 17th November, 2006 at 5:48 am  

    I am afraid that there will always be a few unpleasant people at cricket matches. Hopefully the threatened exclusion, will prompt better manners.
    I am very sorry to say that regardless, England has absolutely no hope of keeping the ashes.

  37. anti-knee-jerk — on 17th November, 2006 at 10:32 am  

    debbie, allow you. what does a woman know about cricket?

  38. Kismet Hardy — on 17th November, 2006 at 10:34 am  

    Prat

  39. Jai — on 17th November, 2006 at 10:42 am  

    Anti-Knee-Jerk,

    =>”debbie, allow you. what does a woman know about cricket?”

    At this point in time, probably considerably more than you know about Sikhism and spirituality.

  40. anti-knee-jerk — on 17th November, 2006 at 10:44 am  

    serious question. all the women i’ve come across who take an interest in cricket have never watched a test match, and think ‘cricket’ are those meaningless ODI things. I bet Debbie here wouldnt know her fine leg from her short leg.

  41. Jai — on 17th November, 2006 at 10:49 am  

    How many Australian women have you met, Anti-Knee-Jerk ?

  42. anti-knee-jerk — on 17th November, 2006 at 10:51 am  

    a few. why?

  43. Jai — on 17th November, 2006 at 10:52 am  

    Furthermore, Debbie’s post was mostly concerning the nasty treatment of Monty at the hands of some Australian spectators. Why are you trying to provoke her by launching ad hominem attacks and making needling comments about her presumed lack of knowledge of cricket ?

  44. anti-knee-jerk — on 17th November, 2006 at 10:55 am  

    Who cares about Monty? If he is going to go crying like a baby to a psychiatrist even before a single ball has been bowled then he is only opening himself up for trouble like that. It says he is vulnerable, and if he is indeed a threat, then some fans will take advantage of that. He should grow up and act like a proper singh, instead of being such a pussy.

  45. Jai — on 17th November, 2006 at 11:01 am  

    Does the use of the word “pussy” constitute “acting like a proper Singh” ? I must have missed that part of the transcript of Guru Gobind Singh’s speech at Anandpur Sahib in Vaisakhi 1699.

    In any case, you saying to Debbie “What would a woman know about cricket ?” is like an English person saying “What would an Asian know about football ?” if an Indian comments on the subject.

  46. anti-knee-jerk — on 17th November, 2006 at 11:02 am  

    yeh well i know plenty of indians who know their football inside out, so its not a valid comparison. she made the comment on the ashes – i responded to that, because i doubt she knows what she is talking about.

  47. Jai — on 17th November, 2006 at 11:07 am  

    =>”i know plenty of indians who know their football inside out,”

    And there are plenty of Indians who know relatively little about the subject. That still wouldn’t negate the racist stance of the hypothetical English person making such comments based purely on guesswork and his own possibly-limited interaction with Indians.

    =>”because i doubt she knows what she is talking about.”

    Based on what ? Purely the fact that she’s a woman ?

    Not the most rigorous basis on which to found one’s opinions.

  48. Kismet Hardy — on 17th November, 2006 at 11:20 am  

    antiji jerk, were you not breastfed, man?

  49. Jai — on 17th November, 2006 at 11:26 am  

    I don’t know about that Kismet, but I do think he’s on some kind of macho ego-trip.

  50. Kismet Hardy — on 17th November, 2006 at 11:36 am  

    it may interest you to know that the original meaning of macho, as coined by the mexicans, is a far cry from the image of testosterone-fuelled dipstick that springs to mind. Macho means: A man that works tirelessly to support his family and never asks for credit

  51. Jai — on 17th November, 2006 at 11:54 am  

    Kismet, you’re a neverending fountain of insightful facts and stroke-inducing badmaashi ;)

  52. Jagdeep — on 17th November, 2006 at 12:31 pm  

    anti knee jerk, you are a parody! As for Monty, well, he’s more of a Singh than you are.

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