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    Tories against racial discrimination

    by Sunny
    3rd June, 2010 at 12:13 am    

    Oh wait… What? It’s got official approval too? Ah well….

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    1. sunny hundal

      Blog post:: Tories against racial discrimination http://bit.ly/9YB9vB

    2. sunny hundal

      @BrymiroJ think lots of Tories also very hypocritical, esp when they claim they don't like racial profiling: http://bit.ly/9YB9vB

    1. Carl — on 3rd June, 2010 at 12:16 am  

      They’ve only bloody out-Amis’d Martin Amis. Same ol’ nasty party, different silent deputy leader.

    2. Sunny — on 3rd June, 2010 at 12:18 am  

      haha, I’ve not heard that expression before Carl. nice

    3. JSlayerUK — on 3rd June, 2010 at 12:58 am  


      Three steps forward, two steps back…

      (I altered the phrase because I acknowledge we are making SOME progress.)

      Reminds me of the new immigration laws in Arizona. Because sometimes, racial profiling is justified dontchaknow.

    4. cjcjc — on 3rd June, 2010 at 6:13 am  

      What percentage of Labour members or the population overall favour it?

    5. Cauldron — on 3rd June, 2010 at 8:12 am  

      #4 - I dare say that a fair percentage of ethnic minorities from those communities that do not shelter anti-British terrorists - British Chinese, British Sikhs etc - might also think it reasonable to do some form of profiling. Perhaps they are tired of being lumped together with the Pakistani and Somali communities? Of course, this narrative doesn’t fit in with the Left’s innate belief that they are the sole legitimate political representatives of all non-white peoples.

      Perhaps the better argument against racial profiling is that it is hopelessly ineffective as a counter-terrorism measure and just stirs up resentment. The Dean Headley case shows how terrorists can easily evade these kind of crude measures.

      Pretty much every intelligence agency in the west understands this. By all means use profiling to figure out which communities you are going to target for covert surveillance, but ultimately you don’t pick out individuals for further scrutiny unless you have specific intelligence.

    6. Rumbold — on 3rd June, 2010 at 8:31 am  

      Does it have official approval, or was it just a proposal from a councillor? I think the policy is disgraceful, and will only make matters worse (by increasing resentment and not actually catching the real terrorists).

    7. platinum786 — on 3rd June, 2010 at 11:14 am  

      Not only is the policy racist and ineffective as Ed Hussain writes, but it still wouldn’t work. The net would still be too wide. Being Somali or Bangladeshi or Pakistan or Indian AND Muslim at the same time, doesn’t make you a terrorist. It may increase you likeliness of being a terrorist, but it’s pretty negligible.

      Terrorism is based on a perceived ideologically motivated war, not a geographically restrictive one. You have English men, White American women, who are terrorists. You have to profile on ideas. How are they going to manage that? I think it’s safe to say 95% of Muslim “terrorists” are Wahhabi’s.How are you going to find out who is a Wahhabi/Salafi or not? At the same time, it’s safe to say that 99.9% of Wahhabi’s may have ideas f religion which seem archaic etc, but they’re not terrorists.

      Profiling doesn’t work, it’s a p1ss poor attempt at security.

    8. damon — on 3rd June, 2010 at 12:34 pm  

      I’m just p’d off at having my Nivea sun cream taken off me at Gatwick a couple of weeks ago.
      12 quid down the drain.

      Thanks terrorists.

    9. Sunny — on 3rd June, 2010 at 12:41 pm  

      Rumbold - official approval from ‘the Tory grassroots’, for whatever’s that worth. The self-styled defenders of freedom etc etc

    10. Random Guy — on 3rd June, 2010 at 4:08 pm  

      What a surprise! (not)

    11. Vikrant — on 3rd June, 2010 at 7:48 pm  

      I’m just p’d off at having my Nivea sun cream taken off me at Gatwick a couple of weeks ago.

      You see damon, if you were a brown man, you’d have anticipated it :) !

    12. Sunny — on 4th June, 2010 at 2:17 am  

      Vikrant - haha!

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