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What I love about England


by Sunny on 6th November, 2006 at 4:03 pm    

Over at Dave Hill’s excellent blog Temperama, I’ve contributed to his Big England series with a short piece on what I love about England.



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  1. Anas — on 6th November, 2006 at 6:23 pm  

    Like all good Scots, I hate England.

  2. lol — on 6th November, 2006 at 6:30 pm  

    Sunday roast > Haggis

  3. Vikrant — on 6th November, 2006 at 6:45 pm  

    Like all good Scots, I hate England.

    Nay, Scotland is a crappy crappy place. Heck Scottish cities look as if Scousers run them. Whats more its goddamn hard to understand your accent. England rocks me says.

  4. William — on 6th November, 2006 at 6:56 pm  

    Well I was born in Scotland (dad Scottish mom English)
    Haven’t heard that many Scots hate the English, but my grandad did refer to the English side of my family as bandits!

  5. Vikrant — on 6th November, 2006 at 7:05 pm  

    William i kinda empathise with you. Sames with my folks. Ethnic prejudices cloud my materbals and paternal family’s preception of eachother.

  6. Don — on 6th November, 2006 at 7:07 pm  

    ‘Scottish cities look as if Scousers run them’

    Ha! Also, most Scottish pubs seem to have discovered Formica and decided that this was the end of the rainbow.

    But three hours and the best we can say about England is that it isn’t Scotland?

    (All my grandparents were Scots and I have a fondness for the place, but I wouldn’t want to live there.)

  7. Vikrant — on 6th November, 2006 at 7:11 pm  

    One more reason why i love England more than India:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6119928.stm

    Hundreds of people applying to join the police have gone on the rampage in the northern Indian city of Ghaziabad.

    Riots began because many felt a written test was too difficult, officials say.

    I shudder to think what wouold happened if this lot would have actually joined the police!

  8. Neil — on 6th November, 2006 at 7:18 pm  

    That is jokes !

  9. Anas — on 6th November, 2006 at 7:30 pm  

    Scotland:

    the people are nicer and the scenery’s nicer;

    but the weather and the food are shit.

  10. Anas — on 6th November, 2006 at 7:36 pm  

    Gonna be a lot of Muslims voting for the SNP in the Scottish Assembly elections (possibly me included, haven’t decided yet).

  11. Vikrant — on 6th November, 2006 at 7:41 pm  

    the people are nicer and the scenery’s nicer;

    Ho ho… I’ve lived in Glasgow for about a month. Poeple can be as rude as hell. As for the scenery part, England (except Liverpool ofcourse) is MUCH more scenic and had much more variation. I’d prefer Romney Marsh to Scotlands desolate ghostly peaks.

  12. Amir — on 6th November, 2006 at 7:42 pm  

    I think you should re-title your article to “What I love about London” - not England.

  13. Vikrant — on 6th November, 2006 at 7:43 pm  

    Gonna be a lot of Muslims voting for the SNP in the Scottish Assembly elections

    Turncoat! You might as well declare you alleigence to Sinn Fein!

  14. Anas — on 6th November, 2006 at 7:43 pm  

    Ho ho… I’ve lived in Glasgow for about a month. Poeple can be as rude as hell

    I think maybe that was just you.

  15. Vikrant — on 6th November, 2006 at 7:44 pm  

    had much more variation.

    has much more variation.

    eek.. methiunks me keyboard is jinxed.

  16. Anas — on 6th November, 2006 at 7:45 pm  

    What’s wrong with Sinn Fein?

  17. Anas — on 6th November, 2006 at 7:46 pm  

    Some of us quite like desolate ghostly peaks, they remind us of our mortality.

  18. Amir — on 6th November, 2006 at 7:47 pm  

    Anas,

    “Gonna be a lot of Muslims voting for the SNP in the Scottish Assembly elections.”

    Yeah, there’s also gonna be a lot of white, working-class English folk voting for the BNP in 2009.

    Cheers Maggie.

    Cheers Tony.

  19. Anas — on 6th November, 2006 at 7:48 pm  

    There’s more than a letter’s difference between the BNP and the SNP, Amir. You can’t compare the two.

  20. Amir — on 6th November, 2006 at 7:50 pm  

    Anas,

    “What’s wrong with Sinn Fein?”

    That’s a bit like asking: what’s wrong with cutting off ya’ cock and eating it with a bit of salt and Chianti.

  21. Vikrant — on 6th November, 2006 at 7:52 pm  

    My feelings about SNP:

    Lord grant that Marshal Wade
    May by thy mighty aid
    Victory bring.
    May he sedition hush,
    And like a torrent rush,
    Rebellious Scots to crush.
    God save the Queen!

  22. Vikrant — on 6th November, 2006 at 7:56 pm  

    “Gonna be a lot of Muslims voting for the SNP in the Scottish Assembly elections.”

    Typical M0$!3M tendency aint it Anas? Vote en block! Much like Algerians voting Parti Québécois in Canada?

  23. Don — on 6th November, 2006 at 7:58 pm  

    Wade? Pretty good at building roads, totally screwed up in ‘45.

  24. Vikrant — on 6th November, 2006 at 7:59 pm  

    re Amir: I think you missed my response to your post at

    http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/877#comment-43365

  25. Anas — on 6th November, 2006 at 7:59 pm  

    Again I don’t see what’s wrong with protest voting. Why single out Muslims, countless other ethnic, or ideologically/religiously defined groups do it?

  26. Don — on 6th November, 2006 at 8:00 pm  

    Dave,

    Aren’t members of the armed forces familiar with the national anthem?

  27. Anas — on 6th November, 2006 at 8:02 pm  

    Remember the English “crushed” and invaded the Scots and the Irish people as a prelude to their imperialist adventures abroad (although I’m not excusing those Scots who played a prominent role in British Imperialism).

  28. ZinZin — on 6th November, 2006 at 8:07 pm  

    Vikrant
    Birmingham is by far the ugliest city in England. It is also the only city in England that has made little contribution to the cultural life of the nation.

    Amir post 13 nailed it perfectly.

  29. Amir — on 6th November, 2006 at 8:09 pm  

    ZinZin,

    Yeah!! ;-)

  30. ZinZin — on 6th November, 2006 at 8:12 pm  

    I await the howls of anger from PPs Brummies.

  31. Vikrant — on 6th November, 2006 at 8:15 pm  

    Are there Brummies here? For records i’m from Leicester, if you are mistaking me for a brummy.

  32. Vikrant — on 6th November, 2006 at 8:16 pm  

    @ Dave 3para: Sadly its not my composition! It actually the 6th verse of our national anthem. Dropped ofcoure fro its unPC references to Scots.

  33. Vikrant — on 6th November, 2006 at 8:23 pm  

    Dave you r really in Afghanistan?

  34. ZinZin — on 6th November, 2006 at 8:41 pm  

    Still waiting.

  35. Don — on 6th November, 2006 at 9:26 pm  

    Give him time, he’s only killed six Taliban today. Must have a few more before he comes off shift.

  36. Rakhee — on 6th November, 2006 at 9:55 pm  

    I love England too. This is my home. There’s opportunity, passion and a vibe that isn’t celebrated enough. That’s why i make it a point to go to things like The Notting Hill Carnival. There are so many positives but this is masked by the problems in the world today. Such a shame.

    Hey Sunny, can we have a special Pickled Politics day once a year? Like an independence day, maybe on the next bd. Can be themed, e.g all the things we love about politics or freedom or something. Yay. We could have a PP flag and everything. Can we? huh? huh?

    Back to England, I also love the fact that amongst all the ill-mannered people out there, occassionally I’ll come across a true english gent. Worth staying just for that if you ask me ;)

    Bad side: the weather. Brrr. *buries head under duvet*

  37. Average White Bloke — on 6th November, 2006 at 9:57 pm  

    @Anas

    Don’t forget that those poor, oppressed Celts in Wales, Ireland and Scotland had previously slaughtered their way right across Europe from the Urals before parking their caravans on the British Isles. I’m sure they would have kept on moving west had they developed anything bigger than the coracle for sea travel. They introduced skirts for men, bagpipes, food wrapped in sheep’s stomach linings and Mel Gibson’s penchant for historically, and hysterically, inaccurate anti-English films. Crushing seems quite a measured response ;-)

  38. Anas — on 6th November, 2006 at 10:28 pm  

    AWB, Scots invented the TV, the telephone, economics, tarmac, penicilin, adhesive postage stamps, anaesthetics, the cure for scurvy, deep fried mars bars and we were the first to clone sheep.

    Many of Scotland’s writers, poets, scientists and thinkers are reckoned amongst of the finest and most influential the West has ever produced e.g., Walter Scott, Rabbie Burns, David Hume, James Maxwell, Lord Kelvin, Thomas Carlyle, and Adam Smith. Scots had a hand in laying the foundations for modern liberal democracy with the declaration of arbroath — whose influence on the US declaration of Independence has been widely acknowledged.

    Scotland is great! Hooray!

  39. Sukhjit Singh — on 6th November, 2006 at 10:45 pm  

    But they have crap football teams :-)

  40. ZinZin — on 6th November, 2006 at 11:02 pm  

    Anas
    How could you leave out Rab C. Nesbitt

  41. Average White Bloke — on 6th November, 2006 at 11:06 pm  

    Anas, I’m well aware of what the Scots have done as I have researched the subject. I’m also aware of the amount of Scots that never fail to mention it at the drop of a Tam O’Shanter.

    I’m aware, too, of the influence of Native American Indian laws on the US Constitution. The work of The Diggers in England had a huge impact in devising the US’ laws also. Ever heard of them?

    I’m also aware of the massive amount that the English invented or discovered…and for that matter, the Arabs and the Indians, who also had a big influence on the modern world but get little credit for it in the West. There are too few Westerners that acknowledge the debt we owe those early scientists and mathematicians from the East. Standing on the shoulders of giants, to quote one genius that wasn’t afraid to credit his sources.

    I guess my problem with any nationalist is this, and you are a prime example: When someone English does something great then the Scots nationalist will call it a British achievement. When a Scot does something great the Scots nationalist will call it a Scot achievement.

    And then there’s the Celtic victim mentality that the rest of us have to constantly suffer but that’s another issue for another time.

  42. Anas — on 6th November, 2006 at 11:09 pm  

    How could you leave out Rab C. Nesbitt

    A lot of that was filmed near my house, y’know.

  43. Don — on 6th November, 2006 at 11:33 pm  

    ‘When someone English does something great then the Scots nationalist will call it a British achievement. When a Scot does something great the Scots nationalist will call it a Scot achievement.’

    The reverse is more true.

  44. Sunny — on 6th November, 2006 at 11:45 pm  

    Hello? Here I am writing about what I love about England (I’m sorry but who cares about Scotland? - I kid Clairwil!)… and later I find you boys comparing sizes again. Tsk tsk…

  45. justforfun — on 6th November, 2006 at 11:47 pm  

    The reverse is more true.

    preceicley Don - because it is more true.

    Walter Scott, Rabbie Burns, David Hume, James Maxwell, Lord Kelvin, Thomas Carlyle, and Adam Smith were great men in spite of being Scots , not because they were Scots. So it seems only polite to call them British. ;-) . The Scots were a bunch of piratanical, dispossesed Ulstermen, - who I forgive because they did invent whiskey, or was it that Chinaman who sailed around the world in his invisible boat.

    Justforfun

  46. Amir — on 6th November, 2006 at 11:52 pm  

    Vikrant, - gimme a sec.

    I’m writing a response to your query on a previous thread.

  47. justforfun — on 7th November, 2006 at 12:01 am  

    England - I love it. The grass is green. Greener I think the further you go from London. A lnsd of eccentrics.

    Sunny - I have great difficulty reading beyond your desire for a pint of Fosters. Can you please edit this in your article ;-) - I am sure you must have some other beers available in London or a typo. God forbid - we’re about to defend the Ashes and you mention some shite Oz export they refuse to drink themselves.!!

    Justforfun

  48. Average White Bloke — on 7th November, 2006 at 12:37 am  

    Don,

    You say the reverse is true. In fact, until the last few years an Englishman/woman would have been more likely to refer to any British achievements as British, no matter which end of the land they occured. The rise of the Stroppy Scot in recent years has caused an equal rise of the Idiot Englishman. Not a great surprise at all, if somewhat sad.

    I’ll leave you with a question:

    Do you know what happened to the native people of “Scotland” before the Scotti arrived from Ireland and displaced them?

    We’re all murdering imperialists under the skin, eh? Sleep well :-)

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