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    Idiots beat up Indy journalist Jerome Taylor over voting fraud


    by Sunny on 4th May, 2010 at 11:15 am    

    This is sickening, and exactly why more investigation needs to be done into voting fraud in East London:

    “What are you doing?” asked one of the two, seemingly inquisitive, Asian teenagers who approached me on a quiet cul-de-sac in Bow, east London, shortly after 1pm yesterday.

    “There’s been a photographer around here, do you know her?” he added.

    I didn’t, but I explained I was a journalist for The Independent looking to speak to a man at an address in the area, who was standing as a candidate in the local elections, about allegations of postal vote fraud. “Can we see your note pad,” the boy asked.

    I declined and then the first punch came – landing straight on my nose, sending blood and tears streaming down my face. Then another. Then another.

    Read the full article here. A bunch of idiots and thugs. I hope the police find them up and lock them up.


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    1. platinum786 — on 4th May, 2010 at 11:29 am  

      One of them dropped a phone apparently, so hopefully they will be found. There is too much of this stuff beginning to surface in the Asian community. It needs to be stamped out right at the start.

      For a start, look at people who “collect postal votes”. If you report them to the police, the police should raid their homes at least to investigate.

    2. cjcjc — on 4th May, 2010 at 11:30 am  

      Electoral fraud (mysteriously in favour of Lab) in East London of all places?
      Whatever next?!

    3. Wyrdtimes — on 4th May, 2010 at 11:31 am  

      If this had been an Asian reporter and two white lads would the attackers have been described as a “bunch of racist idiots”?

      Why is it that virtually all cases of election fraud appear to happen in Asian communities?

    4. Sunny — on 4th May, 2010 at 11:34 am  

      WyrdTimes - stop playing the race card all the time yeah? It’s getting boring. I’ve known of Asian journos getting beaten up for investigating voting fraud as well. Twat.

    5. A Councillor Writes — on 4th May, 2010 at 11:39 am  

      It isn’t all in Asian communities, there has in the past been abuse in other communities and of people in residential/nursing homes.

      It’s always the vulnerable groups who suffer from this abuse.

    6. Sean — on 4th May, 2010 at 11:44 am  

      I think thugs is a better word than idiots.
      More importantly, were they working for their uncle at the time of the attack?

    7. Wyrdtimes — on 4th May, 2010 at 11:45 am  

      That’s not a very nice response to a fair question - is it?

      I’m not playing any card just asking a question.

    8. Sunny — on 4th May, 2010 at 11:48 am  

      Not very nice? Perhaps you should stop threatening me over Twitter then.

      You didn’t ask a fair question - you tried to inject race into an issue which is more to do with thuggery and fraud than anything else

    9. Wyrdtimes — on 4th May, 2010 at 12:05 pm  

      I said this in response to being called a twat

      “@sunny_hundal watch who you call twat you fucking arsehole - you wouldn’t say it to my face I guarantee it”

      It’s not a threat it’s a statement. In the heat of the moment, but then - you did just insult me. Actually I stand by it - you wouldn’t say it to my face. If you call someone a “twat” you should expect something back shouldn’t you?

      All I did was to ask a broader question based upon the topic of your post. It’s a fair question as far as I’m concerned.

      Why is it so much electoral fraud seems to emanate from Muslim communities - there now it’s not about race so it’s not racist.

    10. Naadir Jeewa — on 4th May, 2010 at 12:08 pm  

      Bastards.

    11. platinum786 — on 4th May, 2010 at 12:17 pm  

      Excuse me, electoral fraud does not only occur in Muslim communities.

    12. Wyrdtimes — on 4th May, 2010 at 12:22 pm  

      I’m not saying electoral fraud only occurs in Muslim communities. But based on various news sources it looks to me like a disproportionate amount of of electoral fraud does occur within English Muslim communities.

    13. Naadir Jeewa — on 4th May, 2010 at 12:42 pm  

      That’s probably too specific.

      This type of machine politics was routine amongst immigrant communities in the United States half a century ago, though I’ve never bothered to read up on the causal explanations.

      I’m guessing its the vertical ties of authority that incoming waves of poorer immigrants have to rely upon without adequate social infrastructure, reinforced by the British policy of promoting community leaders. And partly, the unique form of machine politics in Bethnal Green is due to the importation of forms of politics that exist on the Indian subcontinent. I’ve heard a presentation that’s made this point, based on a case study of Leicester.

    14. platinum786 — on 4th May, 2010 at 12:51 pm  

      I’m not saying electoral fraud only occurs in Muslim communities. But based on various news sources it looks to me like a disproportionate amount of of electoral fraud does occur within English Muslim communities.

      That’s because the media portrayal of Muslims is “disproportionate”, ie anything bad a Muslim does becomes front page news.

    15. Naadir Jeewa — on 4th May, 2010 at 12:57 pm  

      Oh yeah, forgot to mention that a friend of mine got burned* by a particularly powerful figure in Asian media for not playing by the local party machine’s rules in Southall - not a predominantly Muslim area.

      * metaphorically

    16. Anand — on 4th May, 2010 at 1:54 pm  

      Glenrothes was dodgy as fuck, lets not purely lay the blame on asian/muslim communities (although apart from, Glenrothes, every other electoral fraud story in the press HAS been focused on an Asian Muslim alleged perpetrator.

      Sometimes, you need to call a spade a spade, and getting overtly defensive about it doesnt make it less true!

      More significantly, the Majority of Electoral Postal Fraud is tied to LABOUR ratehr than any other party

      DISCUSS!

    17. Naadir Jeewa — on 4th May, 2010 at 2:00 pm  

      Easy:

      Labour holds more seats with slimmer majorities than Conservatives. These are also urban areas where there’s organizational advantages.
      Postal fraud therefore much more likely, even after you take out the socioeconomic element.

    18. respect sucks — on 4th May, 2010 at 2:31 pm  

      Well RESPECT have seemed to betray their “muslim allies” back in 2005.

    19. cjcjc — on 4th May, 2010 at 2:59 pm  

      Wonder in how many seats there will be legal challenges wrt postal vote fraud?

    20. Sunny — on 4th May, 2010 at 3:04 pm  

      But based on various news sources it looks to me like a disproportionate amount of of electoral fraud does occur within English Muslim communities.

      So you don’t actually have any evidence but you like bringing race, and now religion into the mix. Do you do that a lot?

    21. Wyrdtimes — on 4th May, 2010 at 4:48 pm  

      Not a lot - but I don’t regard race or religion forbidden subjects either.

      But I do know that the vast majority of articles I’ve read about electoral fraud over years have involved muslim names.

      Seems Anand has seen that too. S/he’s also right about Labour usually being involved as well.

    22. I AM DUFFY — on 4th May, 2010 at 5:11 pm  

      The whole electoral system is wide open to this sort of abuse. Allowing Commonwealth citizens to vote in UK elections, when the privilege is not reciprocated, is an imperial anachronism that should be abolished.

    23. Don — on 4th May, 2010 at 7:58 pm  

      EU citizens, also. Is that, too, anachronistic?

      I hadn’t realised that Commonwealth citizens and other resident foreigners could also vote in Antigua and Barbuda, Barbados, Belize, Dominica, Grenada, Guyana, Jamaica, Malawi (all foreign residents, not only Commonwealth citizens), Mauritius, Namibia (all foreign residents, not only Commonwealth citizens), New Zealand (all foreign residents, before 1975 only Commonwealth citizens), Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines.

      So it is not universally reciprocated but it’s not uncommon.

      I wonder who holds the record for voting in multiple countries.

    24. I AM DUFFY — on 4th May, 2010 at 8:11 pm  

      EU citizens may not vote in national elections, only municipal and elections for the European Parliament.

      The list of Commonwealth countries which show reciprocity to British citizens omits of course those that have (a) the largest populations and that (b) provide the largest number of migrants to UK.

      Not to mention other countries which have no imperial connection such as Mozambique, Cameroon and Rwanda. Well to be fair a tiny sliver of the former German colony of Kamerun was administered under a League of Nations mandate for a period after WW I.

      However the insanity of allowing foreigners to vote in UK national elections is compounded by the structural flaws in the voter registration system. You don’t actually even have to live here to be entered onto the electoral roll. You only have to declare that you do and can then be secure in the knowledge that nobody will ever check. Needless to say there is no identity check performed at any point in the process. The assumption is that everyone who registers is who they say they are, a quaint old British tradition from earlier and simpler times.

    25. I AM DUFFY — on 4th May, 2010 at 8:27 pm  

      PS I have just filled in a Voter Registration form as Mohammed Mohammed resident 3 doors down from my Auntie in Longsight and am now popping out to put it in the post.

      Should be through in time for Thursday.

    26. Kulvinder — on 4th May, 2010 at 8:55 pm  

      Its appalling and hopefully both the assualt and the vote rigging will be prosecuted.

    27. KJB — on 4th May, 2010 at 9:30 pm  

      I was going to find this and email it to you - spotted it in today’s Indy, nicked off a train. Glad you got there first!

      Naadir:

      I’m guessing its the vertical ties of authority that incoming waves of poorer immigrants have to rely upon without adequate social infrastructure, reinforced by the British policy of promoting community leaders. And partly, the unique form of machine politics in Bethnal Green is due to the importation of forms of politics that exist on the Indian subcontinent.

      YESS!!! THANK YOU for making this important point. Glad you highlighted the Southall case; I’m pretty sure I’ve heard about corruption in Southall politics before, certainly in gurdwara politics there is a LOT of dodginess.

    28. Cauldron — on 5th May, 2010 at 5:34 am  

      Violence is an integral part of the DNA of this diaspora.

      http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703866704575223832888768098.html#articleTabs%3Darticle

    29. douglas clark — on 5th May, 2010 at 11:01 am  

      I think political parties will ‘use’ voting fraud.

      I think it is up to us to argue against it.

      This is not an easy gig. Political Parties may benefit from cheating, who knows?

      The aftermath of Glenrothes was, how do I say this, doubtful.

      And that is no Asian constituency.

      Losing the records in what what otherwise likely to be an SNP gain stinks to high heaven.

      Though there is no evidence of cheating….

      I would like this General Election to be honest. I think it might not be.

      That is all.

    30. damon — on 5th May, 2010 at 11:06 am  

      … but you like bringing race, and now religion into the mix.

      If it’s not ”race and religion” it’s surely something to do with the fact that the Bangladeshis of Tower Hamlets are pretty tight as a community, and that race and religion are the community’s defining features.

      The elders come from Bangladesh where political corruption and violence is endemic.
      So why wouldn’t some of the Awami League verses Bangladesh National Party style of politics come with them when they moved to England?

    31. sonny — on 5th May, 2010 at 11:21 am  

      so they were supposedly sent to beat the journo up by the candidate? who is the candidate and why arent they mentioned in the piece?

      really awful stuff though. i hope they catch the guys responsible. and whoever gave them their orders too as this obv wasnt a random attack, but quite purposeful.

    32. Alexander van Terheyden — on 5th May, 2010 at 11:39 am  

      One of the reasons I decided to stand as a candidate in Bethnal Green was because I was sick of the fradulent system that is in place.

      Please Check out Pirate Party Policies and Vote Pirate Party if you want a party that is completly neutral and doesn’t have gangs working for it. http://vanterheyden.blogspot.com/

      Vote Pirate Party - Alexander van Terheyden - Bethnal Green and Bow

    33. KJB — on 5th May, 2010 at 3:20 pm  

      sonny:

      who is the candidate and why arent they mentioned in the piece?

      Er, perhaps because he threatened legal action against the reporter?

      Last night, I managed to speak to the man I wanted to interview about the alleged fraud, and whose house I was outside when I was attacked. He said: “I am not going to talk to you about this. Why have you been knocking on my door. You don’t disturb me. If you knock on my door again I will take you to court.”

    34. damon — on 5th May, 2010 at 8:19 pm  

      You don’t disturb me. If you knock on my door again I will take you to court

      That’s a laugh if its accurate.

      It doesn’t have to be a candidate ordering such violence, it could just be the result of a slightly paranoid minority who are a part of serial wrongdoing, attacking those who they feel are sniffing around and might expose what they have been up to.

    35. Vikrant — on 6th May, 2010 at 12:27 am  

      Allowing Commonwealth citizens to vote in UK elections, when the privilege is not reciprocated, is an imperial anachronism that should be abolished.

      Commonwealth itself is an imperial anachronism which needs to be abolished. I think commonwealth citizens with right of abode in the UK become Queen’s subjects, thus enjoying all the privileges of British citizens, thus making them qualified to vote in the UK elections. I can see why allowing them to vote in local council elections is a good idea (they pay their taxes to the council afterall!) but there is no reason whatsoever why they should vote in the UK elections!

    36. Naadir Jeewa — on 6th May, 2010 at 1:09 am  

      Commonwealth itself is an imperial anachronism which needs to be abolished.

      That was true in the past. It certainly isn’t now. Especially when countries who weren’t ever a British colony apply for membership (Madagascar and Algeria), and declaration of becoming a republic no longer requires exit from the Commonwealth since 2007.

      Also, “Commonwealth Citizen” is the post-imperial category that replaces British Subject, since the Commonwealth of Nations is no longer a political union, but simply an IGO that has the Queen at the top.

    37. sonia — on 6th May, 2010 at 3:12 am  

      look, its payback time for us Commonwealth Citizens OK? deal with it :-)

      As some commentator pointed out in the run-up to the Commonwealth Games, what do all Commonwealth Countries have in Common? “Britain stole all their wealth”

      brilliant :-)

    38. Naadir Jeewa — on 6th May, 2010 at 5:03 am  

      @36

      Lolz

    39. chetas — on 15th May, 2010 at 8:17 pm  

      I think its less because they are muslim and more to do with them being less well off.

      I’m sure poor white people would be up the same tricks if they were as well organised…

      but hey wait sunny thinks im racist too.

    40. Muslim Online Network — on 23rd May, 2010 at 4:43 pm  

      Nice one and I think you people should visit the link of online Muslims community where you can find the Muslims all over the world at one place and you can share your views and many other activities better than facebook. So do visit the link and join it.

    41. Fahd — on 23rd May, 2010 at 6:13 pm  

      “ Cauldron — on 5th May, 2010 at 5:34 am
      Violence is an integral part of the DNA of this diaspora.

      http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703866704575223832888768098.html#articleTabs%3Darticle “

      Sieg Heil. A report from the zionazi Wall Street Journal no less. If its part of their DNA what do you suggest - concentration camps maybe ?

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