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  • ‘Race riot on Queen’s doorstep’


    by Sunny
    5th October, 2006 at 2:54 pm    

    Looks like at least one edition of the Evening Standard is leading with this silly headline. Scouring the news stories, it looks like a gang-fight has escalated as a Muslim businessman owned dairy was firebombed yesterday. But, as the BBC states:

    The disorder started on Monday evening following what is believed to have been a minor verbal dispute between a group of youths and another person.

    On Tuesday night, large groups of people gathered in the area and police arrested two 16-year-old boys and a 23-year-old man.

    So, a bunch of idiots start fighting with each other, some retaliate by attacking the dairy and suddenly it becomes a “race riot”.


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    1. Leon — on 5th October, 2006 at 3:01 pm  

      No doubt it’ll be more evidence for the loony right that the Muslim hordes are bringing about the collapse of civilisation as we know it…

    2. Jagdeep — on 5th October, 2006 at 3:01 pm  

      No doubt the Chalvey lads are waiting to get stuck in! Great stuff. Really makes me feel good.

    3. Jagdeep — on 5th October, 2006 at 3:05 pm  

      From the Times:

      Mohammed Azan, director of the dairy, said: “This has been going on for one-and-a-half years but it has been getting worse since last night. Although nobody was injured this time the three youths came and said they would come back with guns and would shoot us.

      Looks like some people are looking for a ruck.

    4. Raja — on 5th October, 2006 at 3:19 pm  

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    5. Leon — on 5th October, 2006 at 3:32 pm  

      Looks like a spamming fucktard if you ask me.

    6. Kulvinder — on 5th October, 2006 at 4:10 pm  

      Incidently the difference in responce to this and this made me laugh. I obviously don’t support anyone who has taken on a public duty selectively objecting on moral grounds. Any safety issues should be dealt with on a case by case basis.

      And the BBC have your say section is full of contradictory loons.

    7. . — on 5th October, 2006 at 8:08 pm  

      It’s worth noting the differences in tone between the Daily Mail’s report: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=408689&in_page_id=1770

      and that of the Sun’s, possibly written in the aftermath of their rather misleading article about the Israeli embassy this morning:
      http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006460324,00.html

    8. TottenhamLad — on 6th October, 2006 at 3:37 pm  

      So is this from the Daily Express true or not?

      “…The outbreak of disorder began after a mother and her daughter were set upon by a gang of 20 Asian youths armed with baseball bats, iron bars and pitchforks.

      The shaven-headed thugs – all dressed in white robes – launched the attack after pouring out of a former office building which is being used as an unofficial mosque.

      They attacked Karen Hayes, 46, and her 18-year-old daughter Emily before turning their weapons on the teenager’s car. The pair had gone to help after Karen’s 15-year-old son Sean and a friend were beaten up by the gang. Police have said it is unlikely the mob will be brought to justice…”

      Sounds like native Brits fighting back to me.

      Source:
      Riots over mosque on the Queen’s doorstep

    9. Sunny — on 6th October, 2006 at 3:57 pm  

      Anyone who uses the Daily Express as their source needs their head checked IMO.

    10. Amir — on 6th October, 2006 at 4:42 pm  

      Here’s an interesting segment from the Express article:

      One 17-year-old youth said: “The Asians have got no respect for us. What they normally do is start on the kids.” Meanwhile, scores of Asian youths marched through the streets chanting “We are getting our mosque”.

      If members of a gang based on a foreign ethnic identity ambush our citizens, it is more than a crime: it is an act of war, Fourth Generation war to be precise. We still think of wars as delineated by state boundaries, because we still envision a world made up of states. Non-state actors such as Hizb ut Tahrir or Al-Muhajiroun use a very different map. Their map has no state boundaries on it; they only think of the ‘dar al Islam,’ the Islamic world, and the ‘dar al harb’, the world of war. For them, our presence in parts of Preston or Bradford is an invasion, not of two countries, but of the ‘dar al Islam.’ The police may mop the floor with these petty thugs, but in doing so they make themselves universally hated.

      To put it bluntly – invasion by immigration easily can be more dangerous than invasion by a foreign army. At some point, the foreign army will go home. But immigrants stay, and if they do not acculturate, they permanently change the cultural landscape. As the Dutch recently discovered, the changes may go beyond introducing some highly exotic dishes into an otherwise bland cuisine. Yes, you know what I’m about say, Sharia Law is slowly being squeezed into parts of Christendom.

      Amir

    11. Kulvinder — on 6th October, 2006 at 4:45 pm  

      So is this from the Daily Express true or not?

      As with anything; yes and no.


      There was an altercation between a teenage boy and dairy staff during prayers. It escalated and the windows of several vehicles were smashed.

      Pure speculation obviously but since every paper has its own distinct angle on it id guess something along the lines of ‘white and asian teenagers start shouting at one another and it escalates’. Besides im reluctant to ever take a single account of these things as canon; theres always hyperbole and rumour involved. I’d have hoped that after the mini-riots in birmingham last year the papers would have been more cautious about taking an overly simplistic view.

    12. Kulvinder — on 6th October, 2006 at 4:52 pm  

      If members of a gang based on a foreign ethnic identity ambush our citizens, it is more than a crime: it is an act of war,

      Pretty much the sentiment uttered on the terraces, and by the idiots in football riots. Still if you’re overly paranoid at the changing face of britain i don’t really think the muslims should concern you. The number of east europeans; catholic east europeans, that have arrived and will arrive outstripes the muslims and/or asian population of this country.

    13. Amir — on 6th October, 2006 at 4:54 pm  

      Oh yeah, the link I provided for the Dutch story: ignore all the proposterous neo-conservative crap on the side of the screen. Just read the story.

    14. Amir — on 6th October, 2006 at 4:58 pm  

      Kulvinder,

      ‘Pretty much the sentiment uttered on the terraces, and by the idiots in football riots.’

      You don’t understand!! Conflict is changing. Violence is changing. Violence is getting fragmented and de-centralised; it’s local. And it’s now happening all over the world. In every country. It’s Fourth Generation Warfare. Which is different from traditional warfare with armies and uniforms and a clear chain of command. No, no, no, no… it’s Fourth Generation Warfare.

    15. Amir — on 6th October, 2006 at 5:02 pm  

      Buy this book.

      Please. I beg you.

    16. Vikrant — on 6th October, 2006 at 5:07 pm  

      Amir,

      I hope you realise providing WND links harms your credibility. Isnt it the same WND that puts up fabricated stories of “Christian persecution in India”?

    17. Vikrant — on 6th October, 2006 at 5:10 pm  

      Having being a JihadWatch regular i’ve realised rednecks can be as bigoted as jehadis.

    18. Vikrant — on 6th October, 2006 at 5:11 pm  

      Having been a JihadWatch regular i’ve realised rednecks can be as bigoted as jehadis.

    19. Amir — on 6th October, 2006 at 5:15 pm  

      Vikrant,

      ‘I hope you realise providing WND links harms your credibility. Isnt it the same WND that puts up fabricated stories of “Christian persecution in India”?’

      I searched the story on Google (I have a newspaper clipping from the Telegraph, but couldn’t find it on their Web site archives). I have no idea of this Web site’s history. Nor did I see those provocative banners on the side of the screen. Is ‘WND’ notorious or something?

    20. Vikrant — on 6th October, 2006 at 5:21 pm  

      Yes WND is part of a cabal of Redneck cabal that target non-Judeo-Christian religions. Their paranoid stories about persecution of Christians worldwide esp. ones about India are an amusing read.

    21. Amir — on 6th October, 2006 at 5:23 pm  

      Oh shit…

      Sorry dude!!

      I didn’t know… but you can find the same story (I’m sure) on other ‘non-redneck, Christian bigot’ Web sites.

      Shit [*blush* *blush*]

    22. Vikrant — on 6th October, 2006 at 5:25 pm  

      Yes WND is part of a cabal of Redneck cabal that target non-Judeo-Christian religions.

      *red faced*

      Shit sorry for typos mates… been without sleep for about 70 hrs now…

    23. Bert Preast — on 6th October, 2006 at 6:29 pm  

      Vikrant wrote: “Having been a JihadWatch regular i’ve realised rednecks can be as bigoted as jehadis”

      Amen to that. Spencer talks some sense but probably three quarters of the commenters there would be baying for commies blood if the jihadis went away. Then whoever’s next on the list. Quite depressing, really.

    24. Vikrant — on 6th October, 2006 at 7:40 pm  

      Have been on JW since early 2004! Anyways the general tone of JihadWatch has evidently become more american-centric and racist. The comments there are shockingly ignorant. They fail to distinguish between political Islamic ideology and Muslims.

      Most of them believe this is sort of a war between ‘Judeo-Christian’ values (Judeo-Christian values is ofcourse redneck invented bumkum) and pagans.

      They’ve had loads of British-bashing; pro-BNP threads over there. BNP-crew cyber-lynched me on a thread few months ago. (It annoys me when some random guy in America who has never been to UK tells me UK isnt my home.). Heck rednecks have chased away most British commentators including Old Pickler (who incidently introduced me to PP)

      Though Spencer says he doesnt support BNP and racists; his silence is deafning.

    25. Vikrant — on 6th October, 2006 at 7:51 pm  

      but probably three quarters of the commenters there would be baying for commies blood if the jihadis went away. Then whoever’s next on the list. Quite depressing, really.

      Actually thius thing is peculiar to Jesusland, i may not agree with Lib Dems or even Indian National Congress, but i certainly dont get into violent fits at the mere mention of their name.

    26. Bert Preast — on 6th October, 2006 at 8:27 pm  

      I got lynched for suggesting Spain wasn’t quite lost to the islamists yet. :D

    27. Bert Preast — on 6th October, 2006 at 8:30 pm  

      Not heard of Jesusland before, I like it.

      It’s been like that for centuries though, Canada never joined the US because Jesusland didn’t need any more Yankees voting than they already had.

    28. Electro — on 6th October, 2006 at 11:08 pm  

      Yeah Vikrant, the persecution of Christians is a myth.

      The mere fact that the more than 1,000,000 Christians working Saudi Arabia can’t even worship in the privacy of their own homes and apts for fear of arrest, imprisonment and expulsion provides ample and irrefutable proof of your assertion.

      And some day, provided the English make the right amount of effort and display a chin-up positive attitude, Great britian will be just as tolerant.

    29. Tottenham — on 6th October, 2006 at 11:18 pm  

      Sunny:
      Anyone who uses the Daily Express as their source needs their head checked IMO.

      Oh you are such a cad Sunny! :)

      How about:
      Anyone who uses the Guardian as their source needs their head checked IMO.

    30. Sunny — on 7th October, 2006 at 1:18 am  

      Yeah, the Daily Express is so balanced.

      And let’s not forget the rubbish stories about Muslims banning Christmas or banning piggy banks. All lies.

    31. Tottenham — on 7th October, 2006 at 11:28 am  

      Yeah, the Guardian is so balanced.

      Look at its blanket coverage of the worst ‘racist’ murder in Britain ever, that of Kriss Donald, a 15 year old Scottish boy kidnapped, tortured, stabbed, set on fire, and left naked to die by some Pakistanis.

      The trial started on 2nd October and the Guardian catches up today!

    32. TottenhamLad — on 7th October, 2006 at 11:34 am  

      PS I do realise this is the second trial over this murder, needed because the Pakistanis wanted for the murder ran back home to Pakistan to escape justice.

    33. ZinZin — on 7th October, 2006 at 1:13 pm  

      Tottenhamlad

      White and Asian youths travelling in cars looking for unsuspecting victims to abduct and assault goes on in West Yorkshire as well.

    34. TottenhamLad — on 7th October, 2006 at 3:21 pm  

      Not from the Daily Express this time

      Fighting started on Monday night outside the dairy resulting in a 46-year-old mother of two alleging she was beaten with a lead pipe.

      The woman’s daughter allegedly had her car smashed by what she told Express was gang of young adults, allegedly from Medina Dairy.

      The woman, a secretary from Dedworth who did not want to be named, had gone to check on her 15-year-old son after he had been involved in a previous altercation with men at the dairy.

      She said: “Before I had chance to think, there were 20 men coming from the Islamic centre, charging at me and my daughter with pitchforks, baseball bats, lead pipes and blow-torches. One of them hit me on the back of the legs with a lead pipe.

      “I told my daughter ‘we have to get out of here otherwise we are going to die’.”

      Then the ganag allegedly turned on a car now known to belong to the daughter and used pitchforks and other weapons, including a grease gun she later handed to the Express, to smash the car window and body-work.

      She said: “It was my daughter’s car, her pride and joy. They smashed through the windscreen with a pitchfork and then continued to smash the whole car up.

      “I have not been able to find a reason at all for why they did this. I asked the police why there are weapons kept in a place of worship but they didn’t answer me.

      “These were grown men coming for two small women. We did nothing to incite this. I think it was reverse racism.”

      She added: “As they were attacking us they were all smiling - they were delighted to be hitting me and destroying my daughter’s car. I thought they were going to kill us - they were fanatical.”

      The woman say she was unable to clearly identify any of her attackers, claiming the police told her it was not worth reporting. “The men were all wearing similar white clothing and were all shaven-headed, so I couldn’t pick anyone out. The police said it would be very difficult to identify anyone, so they may not get anything done.”

      Deport them I say.

      That night, a 23-year-old Slough man was arrested on suspicion of common assault.

      Bet he’s not English.

      From Laban Tall’s blog

    35. Laban — on 8th October, 2006 at 10:35 am  

      “The woman, a secretary from Dedworth who did not want to be named, had gone to check on her 15-year-old son after he had been involved in a previous altercation with men at the dairy.”

      Que ? Her son wasn’t at the dairy, was he ? Why did she go there to ‘check on him’ ?

      While I disapprove of attacking women, with lead pipes or otherwise - not the act of a gentleman - I think we have to read the above as “she’d gone down to the dairy to give them a mouthful”,

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