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  • Catherine Bennett, Rod Liddle, me and the Chinese Communist Party

    by Sunny
    4th April, 2010 at 7:25 pm    

    Readers, you’ll be happy to know PP has been featured in the print and online edition of today’s Observer. Ms Bennett says:

    For some on the left, progressiveness is denoted by the denial of platforms for one or more of the following: the BNP, Islamists, Israeli academics, climate change deniers, arrogant BBC comedians, newspaper columnists pushing their idea of “free speech” that bit too far. Last week, the progressive website Pickled Politics was enjoying the humbling of its current bête noir: “[Rod] Liddle doesn’t believe in free speech,” declared Sunny Hundal, “he simply believes in his right to say what he wants without regard for facts or any blowback.” Blowback? As in a critical response to one’s opinions? If so, it seems Tory commentators are apt to be equally heedless. At ConservativeHome, Tim Montgomerie has counselled offenders that “there is constructive criticism and there is destructive criticism. There is a time for debate on the right and a time to either be silent or gun for Labour”.

    God knows what reassures such speakers that their high-minded support for gagging has absolutely nothing in common with, say, that of the Chinese communist party and, moreover, that they will never suffer the consequences of their own selective approach to free expression.

    There was a time when I’d be awestruck by national columnists because of their stature and the belief that they had cast-iron arguments. There was even a point when I had high regard for Catherine Bennett. But it strikes me that when your article compares lil’ ole me to the Chinese Communist Party on the premise that I was calling for the “gagging” of Rod Liddle - then I can’t help but question the author’s sanity.

    Bennett has attacked me before, and I replied back at the time to point out that criticising anyone isnt not the same as censoring them or even “gagging” them.

    It really is getting ludicrous when some self-important national columnist tries and defend her mate, who is a columnist on a national newspaper and a high-profile magazine, from a blogger on the basis that he is “gagging” her mate. She’s living in a parallel universe. Earth calling CB - are you still in the vicinity?

    Bennett also neglects to mention that her friend Rod Liddle, the self-styled defender of free-speech, threatened us with libel lawyers on two separate occasions when we ran a campaign questioning his suitability as editor of the Indy. Twice! Once on Facebook and later on the Millwall football site.

    And yet this is the guy who is meant to be a poor victim? Hell, sometimes even George Bush was less hypocritical than this shower of journalists-playing-victims idiots.

    It’s also worthwhile noting that a few years ago Bennett wrote this silly article attacking bloggers and Guardian website comments, describing them as people who, “who can dish it out, but they can’t take it” — the naked hypocrisy of these people boggles.

    At that time it was ok to generalise about bloggers and deride them for saying things you thought were smutty. But the minute they actually start criticising your mates, people like Catherine Bennett start crying about how they all feel bullied and victimised.

    The Chinese Communist Party must be quivering in their boots thinking that they’ve got competition. Can someone now please point out where the money is so I can build that vast army, a team of internet censors and massive gulags??

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    1. Gez Kirby

      Great QT line-up!< RT @robinince: RT @pickledpolitics: Catherine Bennett,Rod Liddle, me and the Chinese Communist Party http://bit.ly/dATxUj

    2. Robin Ince

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    5. sunny hundal

      @mrcivlib @bnzss Heh. Don't be under the impression I'm a fan of Bennett http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/8177

    1. earwicga — on 4th April, 2010 at 8:33 pm  

      Sunny - you really should stop censoring all the comments on this post ;)

    2. Don — on 4th April, 2010 at 8:55 pm  

      How on earth does pointing out that Liddle is a pretty unpleasant type constitute gagging or censorship? It’s not a well thought out piece at all.

    3. rantersparadise — on 4th April, 2010 at 9:26 pm  

      Hmm, I’d be interested to see or know who else she has stuck up for that has been for freedom and anti-discrimination.

      Only then and only then would I even bother to google her but the fact that she’s sticking up for this not that good writer and utter tw*t.

      I won’t bother.

      Good for you Sunny!

    4. halima — on 4th April, 2010 at 10:59 pm  

      strange, i couldn’t follow her article

    5. Rumbold — on 4th April, 2010 at 11:46 pm  

      Nice to be mentioned in despatches, even if it is inaccurate. Our bete noire is Lee John Barnes.

    6. Fentonchem — on 4th April, 2010 at 11:56 pm  

      Well, does he have a point?

      The BNP are a racist hateful party, but so is RESPECT.

      Like Griffin, George Gallaway is an antisemite and a supporter of terrorism.

      The leaders of Sinn Fein, Martin McGuinness andGerry Adams, are war criminals who should be in the Hague for the murder and torture of civilians.

      So Sunny, will you pull these true comments?

    7. Don — on 5th April, 2010 at 12:04 am  


      Speak for yourself. My bete noire has not yet been spawned.

    8. Naadir Jeewa — on 5th April, 2010 at 12:32 am  

      Time to put this in Video Heaven.

    9. Sarah AB — on 5th April, 2010 at 7:29 am  

      I agree with Don - the conflation between ‘sharp criticism’ and ‘gagging’ is a common one but I’m surprised to see an experienced journalist like CB making it.

    10. Boyo — on 5th April, 2010 at 8:04 am  

      The thing is, as people treat what they read on a blog like PP with the same respect as they read CB in the Grauniad, the number-crunchers who employ them will begin to question their six figure salaries… not that this has anything to do with her hostility, of course ;-)

    11. Dalbir — on 5th April, 2010 at 9:46 am  

      Time to put this in Video Heaven.

      The syncronisation skills of the Chinese never fail to impress me! Great link!

    12. Rajesh — on 6th April, 2010 at 9:26 am  

      Sunny, I agree that you are not trying to silence Liddle though you clearly did try to influence the Indy not to employ him. However, your repeated comments about Liddle threatening you with Lawyers are overheated. My understanding is that you never received any formal communication from a lawyer so Liddle’s comments in online fora could easily be ignored and treated as typical website trash talk.

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