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		<title>By: sonia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/796/comment-page-2#comment-38060</link>
		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 18:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>david miliband&#039;s got a blog...</description>
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		<title>By: Sunny&#8217;s diary &#187; Cameron embraces blogs</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/796/comment-page-2#comment-38046</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny&#8217;s diary &#187; Cameron embraces blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 17:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Last week I said on Pickled Politics that Gordon Brown needed to embrace blogs to at least try and re-connect with the youth. Labour is quite rightly seen as a party obsessed with spin and out of touch with its electorate. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Last week I said on Pickled Politics that Gordon Brown needed to embrace blogs to at least try and re-connect with the youth. Labour is quite rightly seen as a party obsessed with spin and out of touch with its electorate. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: beware the political advisor who says &#8220;blogging will save your bacon&#8221; &#171; Someday I Will Treat You Good</title>
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		<dc:creator>beware the political advisor who says &#8220;blogging will save your bacon&#8221; &#171; Someday I Will Treat You Good</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 06:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pickled Politics - Gordon Brown needs to embrace blogs [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chairwoman</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/796/comment-page-2#comment-37449</link>
		<dc:creator>Chairwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leon &amp; Kulvindar - Thank you both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leon &amp; Kulvindar &#8211; Thank you both.</p>
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		<title>By: Kulvinder</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/796/comment-page-2#comment-37430</link>
		<dc:creator>Kulvinder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; for italics &lt;/i&gt;

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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ABG compaign goes on it seems:

&lt;blockquote&gt;There are Downing Street people actively canvassing this conference for John Reid and Alan Johnson (I don&#039;t think they can make their minds up). They are also able to tell you in intimate detail why Brown should not, in their opinion, be allowed anywhere near the top job. Three times, I kid you not, I was regaled with the facts and figures from Monday&#039;s edition of Newsnight, where a rather wacky focus group went against the chancellor. Now, you would have thought Blair&#039;s people would have had better things to do before his big speech but actually, they don&#039;t.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/derek_draper/2006/09/the_enemy_within.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ABG compaign goes on it seems:</p>
<blockquote><p>There are Downing Street people actively canvassing this conference for John Reid and Alan Johnson (I don&#8217;t think they can make their minds up). They are also able to tell you in intimate detail why Brown should not, in their opinion, be allowed anywhere near the top job. Three times, I kid you not, I was regaled with the facts and figures from Monday&#8217;s edition of Newsnight, where a rather wacky focus group went against the chancellor. Now, you would have thought Blair&#8217;s people would have had better things to do before his big speech but actually, they don&#8217;t.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/derek_draper/2006/09/the_enemy_within.html" rel="nofollow">http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/derek_draper/2006/09/the_enemy_within.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bollox, it didn&#039;t show up...:( Sunny, can you switch on the html reminder code that used to be above every posting field?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bollox, it didn&#8217;t show up&#8230;:( Sunny, can you switch on the html reminder code that used to be above every posting field?</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/796/comment-page-2#comment-37391</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chairwoman: wrap the text in &lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt; (but without the spaces). For red italic text replace i with blockquote.</description>
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		<title>By: Courtney Hamilton</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/796/comment-page-1#comment-37381</link>
		<dc:creator>Courtney Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Leon&#039;s reservations about GB, the idea that this bean counter and political backstabber (witness the way GB orchestrated back-bench Labour pygmies to call for TB to resign only two weeks ago) could be some sort of inspirational political leader is risible.

GB is a about as inspiring as.... well.... my bank manager. If anything, his recent backstabbing antics are a sure sign of things to come for the Labour party, and for Britain.

I agree with Leon, but I&#039;d go further by arguing, if you think TB was terrible, GB will be far, far worse. There’ll be more managerialism instead of visionary ideas, more privatisation, more intrusive interference from the state, and more wars of intervention - all that, and no inspiration whatsoever.

 As it stands, New Labour are bankrupt financially, and the problem just keeps getting bigger and bigger - state funding for such bankrupt parties offers no real solution to that, in fact, it will only make matters worse - and no amount of &#039;blogging&#039; communication by Labour MP&#039;s will solve that problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Leon&#8217;s reservations about GB, the idea that this bean counter and political backstabber (witness the way GB orchestrated back-bench Labour pygmies to call for TB to resign only two weeks ago) could be some sort of inspirational political leader is risible.</p>
<p>GB is a about as inspiring as&#8230;. well&#8230;. my bank manager. If anything, his recent backstabbing antics are a sure sign of things to come for the Labour party, and for Britain.</p>
<p>I agree with Leon, but I&#8217;d go further by arguing, if you think TB was terrible, GB will be far, far worse. There’ll be more managerialism instead of visionary ideas, more privatisation, more intrusive interference from the state, and more wars of intervention &#8211; all that, and no inspiration whatsoever.</p>
<p> As it stands, New Labour are bankrupt financially, and the problem just keeps getting bigger and bigger &#8211; state funding for such bankrupt parties offers no real solution to that, in fact, it will only make matters worse &#8211; and no amount of &#8216;blogging&#8217; communication by Labour MP&#8217;s will solve that problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Chairwoman</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/796/comment-page-1#comment-37375</link>
		<dc:creator>Chairwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nyrone - First of all I&#039;m going to admit that I don&#039;t know the figures that make up the racial demographics of his constituency, but something that has to be remebered, and he is not the only MP who needs reminding, is that he represents all his constituents, not just the ones who voted for him, and it is they who are being short changed when he addresses so much of his time to foreign affairs.

I used to live in the old Hendon South constituency.  I have never been a Tory supporter (these days to be honest, there isn&#039;t a party I could legitimately suppport), but our MP for many years was John Marshall.  My politics were not his by any means, but I was always impressed by how hard he worked for his constituents, and how hard he tried to improve their everyday lives.
That is an MP&#039;s first task, and I feel that GG fails dismally in that area.  Were I a supporter of his foreign policies, which you know I am not, and a resident in his constituency, where no Newton has lived since 1940, I wouldn&#039;t vote for him because he doesn&#039;t do the boring bits.  

I&#039;m glad he replied to your emails, although I bet the subject was close to his heart, and you are obviously both educated and articulate, but I wonder if he also peronally replies to Mrs Jones, with her long-running battle with Thames Water/British Gas/BT, who can barely string a sentence together.

We will never know.


BTW can someone tell me how to do the italic thing.  I&#039;m too embarrassed to ask Katy.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nyrone &#8211; First of all I&#8217;m going to admit that I don&#8217;t know the figures that make up the racial demographics of his constituency, but something that has to be remebered, and he is not the only MP who needs reminding, is that he represents all his constituents, not just the ones who voted for him, and it is they who are being short changed when he addresses so much of his time to foreign affairs.</p>
<p>I used to live in the old Hendon South constituency.  I have never been a Tory supporter (these days to be honest, there isn&#8217;t a party I could legitimately suppport), but our MP for many years was John Marshall.  My politics were not his by any means, but I was always impressed by how hard he worked for his constituents, and how hard he tried to improve their everyday lives.<br />
That is an MP&#8217;s first task, and I feel that GG fails dismally in that area.  Were I a supporter of his foreign policies, which you know I am not, and a resident in his constituency, where no Newton has lived since 1940, I wouldn&#8217;t vote for him because he doesn&#8217;t do the boring bits.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad he replied to your emails, although I bet the subject was close to his heart, and you are obviously both educated and articulate, but I wonder if he also peronally replies to Mrs Jones, with her long-running battle with Thames Water/British Gas/BT, who can barely string a sentence together.</p>
<p>We will never know.</p>
<p>BTW can someone tell me how to do the italic thing.  I&#8217;m too embarrassed to ask Katy.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: nyrone</title>
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		<dc:creator>nyrone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops, only the first line should be italic!</description>
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		<title>By: nyrone</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/796/comment-page-1#comment-37367</link>
		<dc:creator>nyrone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;it doesn’t matter in real terms what their policies are, because all anyone sees is ‘Gorgeous’ George&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;

I Disagree chairwoman. I see a lot more than just GG when I read the manifesto, and I&#039;m sure others do too.

and to the best of my knowledge this GG affair regarding him not coming to the meetings is grossly exagerrated. He has practically more open access than any other MP. He speaks in various places pretty much weekly, he hosts a radio show where he has long conversations with his constituents and he&#039;s personally replied to 2 emails I have sent him. That&#039;s 2 more than the ones I sent Cameron.

I think that open-ended access is pretty unique in itself, I mean if I wanted to catch him and ask him a  question, I could probably do it.... though I am not defending his lack of show at home, he should be obliged to attened the home meetings. They are very important, but didn&#039;t the residents also vote him in to be a &#039;global&#039; mp that raises the publicity for Human rights affairs too? isn&#039;t he doing that by going to Lebanon etc? maybe he&#039;s doing what a lot of his constituents want him to do.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;it doesn’t matter in real terms what their policies are, because all anyone sees is ‘Gorgeous’ George&#8221;</i><i></p>
<p>I Disagree chairwoman. I see a lot more than just GG when I read the manifesto, and I&#8217;m sure others do too.</p>
<p>and to the best of my knowledge this GG affair regarding him not coming to the meetings is grossly exagerrated. He has practically more open access than any other MP. He speaks in various places pretty much weekly, he hosts a radio show where he has long conversations with his constituents and he&#8217;s personally replied to 2 emails I have sent him. That&#8217;s 2 more than the ones I sent Cameron.</p>
<p>I think that open-ended access is pretty unique in itself, I mean if I wanted to catch him and ask him a  question, I could probably do it&#8230;. though I am not defending his lack of show at home, he should be obliged to attened the home meetings. They are very important, but didn&#8217;t the residents also vote him in to be a &#8216;global&#8217; mp that raises the publicity for Human rights affairs too? isn&#8217;t he doing that by going to Lebanon etc? maybe he&#8217;s doing what a lot of his constituents want him to do.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Goodness Leon, I agree with you. How did that happen?&lt;/i&gt;

Heh, stranger things have happened! In all seriousness I take it as a good sign.:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Goodness Leon, I agree with you. How did that happen?</i></p>
<p>Heh, stranger things have happened! In all seriousness I take it as a good sign.:)</p>
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		<title>By: Chairwoman</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/796/comment-page-1#comment-37351</link>
		<dc:creator>Chairwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goodness Leon, I agree with you.  How did that happen?

Nyrone - Leaving aside GG&#039;s politics, and the fact that he&#039;s a self-serving publicist, he&#039;s an appalling consituency MP.  He hardly ever attends the House of Commons, his voting record is abysmal, and he&#039;s too busy cosying up to foreign worthies to attend to the day-to-day problems of his constituents.  

Whether you like it or not, he is the public face of Respect, and it doesn&#039;t matter in real terms what their policies are, because all anyone sees is &#039;Gorgeous&#039; George.

However, if you&#039;ve read their manifesto, and find that their policies are in agreement with your personal philosophy, then of course you should support them.  Perhaps you could become their second MP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodness Leon, I agree with you.  How did that happen?</p>
<p>Nyrone &#8211; Leaving aside GG&#8217;s politics, and the fact that he&#8217;s a self-serving publicist, he&#8217;s an appalling consituency MP.  He hardly ever attends the House of Commons, his voting record is abysmal, and he&#8217;s too busy cosying up to foreign worthies to attend to the day-to-day problems of his constituents.  </p>
<p>Whether you like it or not, he is the public face of Respect, and it doesn&#8217;t matter in real terms what their policies are, because all anyone sees is &#8216;Gorgeous&#8217; George.</p>
<p>However, if you&#8217;ve read their manifesto, and find that their policies are in agreement with your personal philosophy, then of course you should support them.  Perhaps you could become their second MP.</p>
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		<title>By: Arif</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon Jenkins sees his big idea (as he presents it) as returning power to local communities.

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/labourconference2006/comment/0,,1881895,00.html

He seems to think that Ruth Kelly is into double devolution, but I think that she isn&#039;t anything like as interested as Ed Miliband.  But anyway it would only be towards a settlement for local government power like the early 1980s.

Well, still not a bad thing.  And a manifesto for strengthening local government power seems like the one thing that can unite Amir, me and Gordon Brown(!)  But I doubt giving more power to town halls has much resonance in an election.  Telling foreigners they aren&#039;t wanted is a much bigger vote-winner, so I assume he&#039;ll play that for the election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon Jenkins sees his big idea (as he presents it) as returning power to local communities.</p>
<p><a href="http://politics.guardian.co.uk/labourconference2006/comment/0,,1881895,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://politics.guardian.co.uk/labourconference2006/comment/0,,1881895,00.html</a></p>
<p>He seems to think that Ruth Kelly is into double devolution, but I think that she isn&#8217;t anything like as interested as Ed Miliband.  But anyway it would only be towards a settlement for local government power like the early 1980s.</p>
<p>Well, still not a bad thing.  And a manifesto for strengthening local government power seems like the one thing that can unite Amir, me and Gordon Brown(!)  But I doubt giving more power to town halls has much resonance in an election.  Telling foreigners they aren&#8217;t wanted is a much bigger vote-winner, so I assume he&#8217;ll play that for the election.</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh yes - and i think given the context that here in Britain it &lt;em&gt;isn&#039;t&lt;/em&gt; the case that only British citizens can vote in both local and general elections..this &#039;Britishness&#039; thing will be interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh yes &#8211; and i think given the context that here in Britain it <em>isn&#8217;t</em> the case that only British citizens can vote in both local and general elections..this &#8216;Britishness&#8217; thing will be interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How amusing - in that link to what Brown said about &#039;Britishness&#039; it says that he thinks  &quot;The English language, he will say, should be made an essential element of citizenship&quot;

But it is now thanks to the Citizenship Test - what are politicians not aware of this?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How amusing &#8211; in that link to what Brown said about &#8216;Britishness&#8217; it says that he thinks  &#8220;The English language, he will say, should be made an essential element of citizenship&#8221;</p>
<p>But it is now thanks to the Citizenship Test &#8211; what are politicians not aware of this?!</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was going to say - it&#039;s regressive rather than progressive.</description>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good for brown - it&#039;s about time he stood up to Tony. but of course, no one is going to vote for him  - they&#039;ll vote for Cameron instead. he&#039;ll have to develop some charisma first - and in any case everyone&#039;s fed up with Labour. Some people might even think that Labour are so right-wing nowadays one may as well vote Tory. 

and the Lib Dems have done themselves out by electing that old fool Ming. Whereas they could have really gone somewhere with Simon Hughes.

Amazing how these parties don&#039;t seem to understand  personality politics much. 

this idea of britishness - who said there was no common british identity? in any case a common identity is not dependent on nationality. Localness is a pretty strong factor. Hence slogans such as &#039;We live London&#039; and &#039;We are Londoners&#039; or &#039;One London&#039; are pretty powerful and probably do a good job of encouraging people to think  about how they share the same environment. You can do that without resorting to focusing on nationality. It&#039;s hardly as if in this global age people who share the same environment are going to share the same nationality is it? what an old-fashioned view that is - it won&#039;t be very popular. Hardly progressive. it also hints at the global problem of generally only citizens are able to vote - so effectively local democracy isn&#039;t particularly democratic - and &#039;classes&#039; of people. Like Athens back in the day - slaves and women didn&#039;t vote. but they weren&#039;t considered &#039;citizens&#039; so in many ways things haven&#039;t changed much. 

so how this Britishness thing is going to deal with not seeming to exclude those residents of Britain who aren&#039;t British? i&#039;d like to see how that&#039;s managed :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good for brown &#8211; it&#8217;s about time he stood up to Tony. but of course, no one is going to vote for him  &#8211; they&#8217;ll vote for Cameron instead. he&#8217;ll have to develop some charisma first &#8211; and in any case everyone&#8217;s fed up with Labour. Some people might even think that Labour are so right-wing nowadays one may as well vote Tory. </p>
<p>and the Lib Dems have done themselves out by electing that old fool Ming. Whereas they could have really gone somewhere with Simon Hughes.</p>
<p>Amazing how these parties don&#8217;t seem to understand  personality politics much. </p>
<p>this idea of britishness &#8211; who said there was no common british identity? in any case a common identity is not dependent on nationality. Localness is a pretty strong factor. Hence slogans such as &#8216;We live London&#8217; and &#8216;We are Londoners&#8217; or &#8216;One London&#8217; are pretty powerful and probably do a good job of encouraging people to think  about how they share the same environment. You can do that without resorting to focusing on nationality. It&#8217;s hardly as if in this global age people who share the same environment are going to share the same nationality is it? what an old-fashioned view that is &#8211; it won&#8217;t be very popular. Hardly progressive. it also hints at the global problem of generally only citizens are able to vote &#8211; so effectively local democracy isn&#8217;t particularly democratic &#8211; and &#8216;classes&#8217; of people. Like Athens back in the day &#8211; slaves and women didn&#8217;t vote. but they weren&#8217;t considered &#8216;citizens&#8217; so in many ways things haven&#8217;t changed much. </p>
<p>so how this Britishness thing is going to deal with not seeming to exclude those residents of Britain who aren&#8217;t British? i&#8217;d like to see how that&#8217;s managed <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/dablog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m yet to be convinced that Brown will be anything other than a terrible PM (I hope to be corrected on that front!).

He&#039;s some interesting rhetoric but then so did Blair when he was first leader. They are both Neo Labour with all that entails. Brown is stuck in the legacy of Blairs triangluation; he can&#039;t differ too much from Blair otherwise the Tories will take the centre and if he sticks with Blairs vision there&#039;ll be no change.

That said, it will be interesting to see him wiggle and squirm in that bind attempting to make the Premiership his own...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m yet to be convinced that Brown will be anything other than a terrible PM (I hope to be corrected on that front!).</p>
<p>He&#8217;s some interesting rhetoric but then so did Blair when he was first leader. They are both Neo Labour with all that entails. Brown is stuck in the legacy of Blairs triangluation; he can&#8217;t differ too much from Blair otherwise the Tories will take the centre and if he sticks with Blairs vision there&#8217;ll be no change.</p>
<p>That said, it will be interesting to see him wiggle and squirm in that bind attempting to make the Premiership his own&#8230;</p>
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