well that isn’t just the BBC is it now it seems to apply generally to most media outlets. This is the problem across the board. Media for most = entertainment.

and publicity – hell everyone in media seems to want publicity.

Which it is only if you measure relevance by your ability to grab the headlines for shows with little underlying substance. The New Labour spin technique all over again really I suppose.

In fact we don’t need to the BBC to continue giving them a platform to know what morons like Choudary and Nasrullah think, we already know, they have unbelievable amounts of air time already.

It seems headline grabbing is more important in the Beeb when it comes to advancing your career than serious reporting ofislamic events.

Roxsana

Its very hard to take Sunny’s comments are way off course when it comes to this subject.

His analysis sounds horrifying like Birt’s infamous “bias against understanding” argument that was imposed diastrously on the Beeb during the 90′s. The effects are now found in a declining audiences for news and current affairs. The real problem is making politics in a form relevant for normal people. If you want to freebase on politics do what i do and listen to the Radio 4 & the World Service as well : today in parliament, westiminster hour, newshour, the week in politics, the world tonight, bh etc.

There is still enough hardcore politic news and analysis on the Beeb for you politics junkies, even with its disappearance off the ITV. An example of this is increasing time given to foreign news during the 10 oclock news. Newsnight populist you must be off your rocker!

Lets not hark back to a golden age of serious politic broadcasting Panorama started off with light enteriatment and musical acts, Today started with no politics at all

As an example of how far the Beeb has moved from making News programmes about news, here is Newsnight editor Peter Barron’s justification for allowing Anjem Choudary a platform to spout his addled views on Newsnight earlier this year:

“We did receive a large number of complaints about the debate – as did the BBC’s Newswatch programme before which I was hauled on Friday – but the reality, I think, is that the vast majority of Newsnight viewers love the drama and danger of a highly charged live debate. One and a half million watched Mr Choudary’s antics, and I reckon they’re well able make up their minds about what they were seeing. ”

So it seems according to the unrepentent Mr Barron that ‘s not so much about calmly delivering the latest news and evetns but generating the “drama and danger of a “highly charged ” live debate”. Why not get some BNPers on as well Mr Barron?.

The BBC hires a subset of these few people, off hand I can only think of Messrs Paxman and Humphries – who because of their rather lonely position end up being driven to extremes – and then no one wants to speak to them anyway. Though as I haven’t watched TV in many years there may be others out there.

It’s an arms race; posit a Louis Theroux like character interviewing politicians and getting them to drop their guard, and he’ll only survive until they realise what’s going on.

It’s the right thing to call attention to injustice and hypocrisy etc- it’s an even better thing to practice what you preach.

And 24 hour rolling news, on the BBC and other channels, is designed for those who won’t spend half an hour watching the bulletins on the regular TV channel, which seems to me to be the opposite of what the opportunity is for.

They either play Punjabi or Bhangra music from UK all the time or bolly music that is punjabi or bhangra style in rhythm and lyrics or if its somehow related to muslims or ‘islamic’ style.

why dont you tune into –no no no
why not just listen back to any of the morning shows or drivetime shows!!

BBC are killing off Bollywood music.

The whole coverage of the middle east was bad enough before (see http://www.vigie-media-palestine.org/1anglais.html & http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=5770), but the handling recent Lebanese conflict was disgraceful. I mean, so many of the relevant facts were either underreported or ignored on the BBC — which is OK for any other news organisation but not one that’s funded by public money.

Check out this version of an article from Le Monde Diplomatique http://www.democratsdiary.co.uk/2006/09/britains-role-in-israeli-hezbollah-war.html I was watching the Daily Politics on Friday, and they were talking about why Blair is facing difficulties with his prime ministership. The focus was on the whole feud with Blair, and the powerplay within the labour party. No mention of why his role in the Lebanon conflict was an absolute disgrace.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5366270.stm

Where they devote the bulk of the text to bad news going on elsewhere in Iraq. Even though they cover that in several other stories too.

How did the handover come about? Was that area always quiet? If not, what made it so? When was this handover planned? When was it scheduled? Was it on time? Who are the bosses there now? How do they treat with the central government? Do the people have water, power, food, schools etc? Does the handover mean they life normal lives, or is it the same as the rest of the country just with no foreign troops?

None of that stuff seems important to the Beeb. It could be crap journalism, but I’m going with bias because it was just the same when they covered the last handover.

Also, the highest viewership for the BBC is over 55s. When it comes to race issues, for example, theres a great opp for the BBC to educate and use it’s power to change people’s perceptions. This target group is a tough one to break as their views are already formed and they are mainly exposed to the rubbish which is written in The Daily Mail. The BBC could actually change opinions if only they paid more attention to the content and understanding the issues.

I appreciate that the BBC has to be seen to report fairly, but at times, sitting on the fence doesn’t, in my view, help anyone.

I love you roger. Come round my gaff and watch some “DVD’s”

perhaps.
Haa –putting that into practice is another story.

Why am I paying the BBC money to watch NEWS on a Saturday morning! Its beyond belief.

and their was some controversy about their reporting on radio 4 on honour killing
http://www.gujarat-samachar.com/1currentdate/Y_HonourKillngs.html

Keep your ears on the BBC Asian Network radio as they bend backwards to please the muslims community over Ramadan and force us to listen to their religious beleifs.

BBC impartial? joke

Freudian Slip, I presume.”

Sorry- Jai and mirax- so intent on spelling Choudhary consistently I didn’t think.

“Islam is a pile of shit ? Islam is boring ? Islam and it’s followers are a pain in the ass ?”

Perfectly true. However, that should not deprive people of their rights under British law. If the fact that someone thought that of any set of beliefs deprived them of their rights no-one would have any rights. What does need debate sre the questions I raised in my first post.
People who write “it’s” when they mean “its”, however, should be shown no mercy, except when the absence of an edit button means it’s irrevocable.