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	<title>Comments on: Branson makes $3bn climate pledge</title>
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		<title>By: Amrevis</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/788#comment-36777</link>
		<dc:creator>Amrevis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 12:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Even though I did History A Level, years of drug abuse has turned my brain to a colander.&quot;
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Where did you do your A level History from?

Was it from Jullundur or Ludhiyana University. I went there too. 

Anyway, the basic point I want to make is that we need to learn from our &quot;historical&quot; mistakes. And we need to stop blaming others when we are ourselves to blame. 

It has now become a feature on CNN for British ASians to appear in shows and whine all the time about so called free doles that they are entitled to as a matter or right. I find this sort of conduct shameful. Why should we go overseas and beg for doles, when we can do it right here in India.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Even though I did History A Level, years of drug abuse has turned my brain to a colander.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Where did you do your A level History from?</p>
<p>Was it from Jullundur or Ludhiyana University. I went there too. </p>
<p>Anyway, the basic point I want to make is that we need to learn from our &#8220;historical&#8221; mistakes. And we need to stop blaming others when we are ourselves to blame. </p>
<p>It has now become a feature on CNN for British ASians to appear in shows and whine all the time about so called free doles that they are entitled to as a matter or right. I find this sort of conduct shameful. Why should we go overseas and beg for doles, when we can do it right here in India.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/788#comment-36744</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is more joy over one sinner that repenteth...&quot;
I hold the old-fashioned view that it&#039;s better not to commit the sin in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is more joy over one sinner that repenteth&#8230;&#8221;<br />
I hold the old-fashioned view that it&#8217;s better not to commit the sin in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Kismet Hardy</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/788#comment-36740</link>
		<dc:creator>Kismet Hardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amrevis, you&#039;re right. Even though I did History A Level, years of drug abuse has turned my brain to a colander. But I&#039;m not one to dwell on the past. If everyone just concerned themselves with the present, the future would be a lovely place. I&#039;m a hippy knobcheese and happy that way.

That&#039;s me done with. What is it about you that makes you feel so &#039;ashamed&#039; on behalf of others? Why do you cringe and get embarrassed to see fellow Asians act in ways that trouble you? If you see a twat, say &#039;twat&#039;, don&#039;t hide behind the sofa pleading: &#039;mummy, mummy, there&#039;s an Asian man on telly. Please make him stop, he&#039;s embarrassing me&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amrevis, you&#8217;re right. Even though I did History A Level, years of drug abuse has turned my brain to a colander. But I&#8217;m not one to dwell on the past. If everyone just concerned themselves with the present, the future would be a lovely place. I&#8217;m a hippy knobcheese and happy that way.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s me done with. What is it about you that makes you feel so &#8216;ashamed&#8217; on behalf of others? Why do you cringe and get embarrassed to see fellow Asians act in ways that trouble you? If you see a twat, say &#8216;twat&#8217;, don&#8217;t hide behind the sofa pleading: &#8216;mummy, mummy, there&#8217;s an Asian man on telly. Please make him stop, he&#8217;s embarrassing me&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Jagdeep</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/788#comment-36734</link>
		<dc:creator>Jagdeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh shaddap you pompous fart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh shaddap you pompous fart.</p>
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		<title>By: Amrevis</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/788#comment-36731</link>
		<dc:creator>Amrevis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right now I am reading Niall Ferguson&#039;s Empire. The book is about how the Brits kicked everyone&#039;s butt and forced the Asians to become civilized. 

Instead of crying ourselves hoarse over great men like Branson, we ought to look at ourselves, at our own faults. Why the hell did we have to wait for the British to come forward and civilize us? Why couldn&#039;t we do it ourselves????

Mr. Kismet Hardy has obviously a great sense of humor, but what is lacks is the sense of history. I would advise him to read Empire and when he has finished reading that book, then he might try reading Colossus by the same author. 

The fact is that Branson is a Colossus, he has created a great Empire like Virgin. That is a feat that South Asians can never equal. That is why we deveolp inferiority complex, and that is why we whine all the time. 

I am ashamed of you guys. And I am absolutely serious about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now I am reading Niall Ferguson&#8217;s Empire. The book is about how the Brits kicked everyone&#8217;s butt and forced the Asians to become civilized. </p>
<p>Instead of crying ourselves hoarse over great men like Branson, we ought to look at ourselves, at our own faults. Why the hell did we have to wait for the British to come forward and civilize us? Why couldn&#8217;t we do it ourselves????</p>
<p>Mr. Kismet Hardy has obviously a great sense of humor, but what is lacks is the sense of history. I would advise him to read Empire and when he has finished reading that book, then he might try reading Colossus by the same author. </p>
<p>The fact is that Branson is a Colossus, he has created a great Empire like Virgin. That is a feat that South Asians can never equal. That is why we deveolp inferiority complex, and that is why we whine all the time. </p>
<p>I am ashamed of you guys. And I am absolutely serious about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jagdeep</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/788#comment-36713</link>
		<dc:creator>Jagdeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can fly to Spain for less than it cost KH to get to Birmingham. Bloody disgraceful. 

&lt;i&gt;I wouldnâ€™t know having not met most British Asian and not being Asian myself...Iâ€™m 6â€²3â€³, hardly a pygmyâ€¦&lt;/i&gt;

LoL!

Amrevis, you always get things wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can fly to Spain for less than it cost KH to get to Birmingham. Bloody disgraceful. </p>
<p><i>I wouldnâ€™t know having not met most British Asian and not being Asian myself&#8230;Iâ€™m 6â€²3â€³, hardly a pygmyâ€¦</i></p>
<p>LoL!</p>
<p>Amrevis, you always get things wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Kismet Hardy</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/788#comment-36709</link>
		<dc:creator>Kismet Hardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amrevis, great press release. I once had to board a Virgin train from London Euston to Birmingham (I couldn&#039;t use my just Â£15 ticket from marlyborne as I needed to travel early). Because it was rush hour, I had to fork out Â£70+ for a return ticket. At Leamington Spa it conked out and stayed conked out for two hours. I got there an hour after I would have had I just waited and gone from Marlyborne, Â£55 richer.

Of course, I now blame all that on my inferiority complex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amrevis, great press release. I once had to board a Virgin train from London Euston to Birmingham (I couldn&#8217;t use my just Â£15 ticket from marlyborne as I needed to travel early). Because it was rush hour, I had to fork out Â£70+ for a return ticket. At Leamington Spa it conked out and stayed conked out for two hours. I got there an hour after I would have had I just waited and gone from Marlyborne, Â£55 richer.</p>
<p>Of course, I now blame all that on my inferiority complex</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/788#comment-36708</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;You tend to single out Branson/Virgin because you know that they are the best airline in the world.&lt;/i&gt;

LOL! I &quot;singled&quot; them out because that was what was in the news! Exactly how are they the best airline in the world, based on what criteria?

&lt;i&gt;This is the problem with most British Asians,&lt;/i&gt;

I wouldn&#039;t know having not met most British Asian and not being Asian myself.

&lt;i&gt;A pygmy hates great heights.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m 6&#039;3&quot;, hardly a pygmy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You tend to single out Branson/Virgin because you know that they are the best airline in the world.</i></p>
<p>LOL! I &#8220;singled&#8221; them out because that was what was in the news! Exactly how are they the best airline in the world, based on what criteria?</p>
<p><i>This is the problem with most British Asians,</i></p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t know having not met most British Asian and not being Asian myself.</p>
<p><i>A pygmy hates great heights.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m 6&#8217;3&#8243;, hardly a pygmy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Amrevis</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/788#comment-36705</link>
		<dc:creator>Amrevis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leon, You tend to single out Branson/Virgin because you know that they are the best airline in the world. Like all people who suffer from inferiority complex, you too take delight in trying to lambaste great organizations that are great. 

A pygmy hates great heights. A man who suffers from inferiority complex cannot ever forgive a superior personality. 

This is the problem with most British Asians, they suffer from inferiority complex and that is why they try to drag down to their own substandard level great individuals like Branson, whose organization Virgin has created billions of dollars in shareholder value and led to massive employment opportunities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leon, You tend to single out Branson/Virgin because you know that they are the best airline in the world. Like all people who suffer from inferiority complex, you too take delight in trying to lambaste great organizations that are great. </p>
<p>A pygmy hates great heights. A man who suffers from inferiority complex cannot ever forgive a superior personality. </p>
<p>This is the problem with most British Asians, they suffer from inferiority complex and that is why they try to drag down to their own substandard level great individuals like Branson, whose organization Virgin has created billions of dollars in shareholder value and led to massive employment opportunities.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/788#comment-36700</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If Virgin had not made the pledge the picklers would have whined - look he isnâ€™t doing anything for environment.&lt;/i&gt;

Would we? We haven&#039;t mentioned Branson/Virgin before so why would we single them out when there are so many polluting businesses we could target?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If Virgin had not made the pledge the picklers would have whined &#8211; look he isnâ€™t doing anything for environment.</i></p>
<p>Would we? We haven&#8217;t mentioned Branson/Virgin before so why would we single them out when there are so many polluting businesses we could target?</p>
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		<title>By: Amrevis</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/788#comment-36696</link>
		<dc:creator>Amrevis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 04:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Is this is just a cynical ploy to get more people on Virgin planes/trains because thisâ€™ll make them look â€˜greenerâ€™? &quot;
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The nonsensical statement quoted above is a clear example of a shoddy LEFTIST ploy of damning businessmen if they do something and damning them if they don&#039;t. 

If Virgin had not made the pledge the picklers would have whined - look he isn&#039;t doing anything for environment. Now that he has made a huge pledge the picklers are trying to find ulterior motives. 

How shameful of the picklers to be so suspicious of everyone! But this sort of attitude is not surprising. 

It is the typical South Asian distrustful nature of the South ASians that is behind the sordid mess in India, Bangladesh and Paki. We distrust each other even more virulently than we distrust the HIGHFLYING White Guys like Branson.  

We need to learn to trust people, unless we learn to trust we will not grow up as a civilization and we will remain a group of whining carping meaningless people dependent on handouts from the white guys so that we may eke out a living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Is this is just a cynical ploy to get more people on Virgin planes/trains because thisâ€™ll make them look â€˜greenerâ€™? &#8221;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
The nonsensical statement quoted above is a clear example of a shoddy LEFTIST ploy of damning businessmen if they do something and damning them if they don&#8217;t. </p>
<p>If Virgin had not made the pledge the picklers would have whined &#8211; look he isn&#8217;t doing anything for environment. Now that he has made a huge pledge the picklers are trying to find ulterior motives. </p>
<p>How shameful of the picklers to be so suspicious of everyone! But this sort of attitude is not surprising. </p>
<p>It is the typical South Asian distrustful nature of the South ASians that is behind the sordid mess in India, Bangladesh and Paki. We distrust each other even more virulently than we distrust the HIGHFLYING White Guys like Branson.  </p>
<p>We need to learn to trust people, unless we learn to trust we will not grow up as a civilization and we will remain a group of whining carping meaningless people dependent on handouts from the white guys so that we may eke out a living.</p>
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		<title>By: Rowshan</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/788#comment-36695</link>
		<dc:creator>Rowshan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 00:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah - more optimism please!  I watched the Gore doc, too, and if anyone lifts a finger to reverse climate change we should be appauding - at the rate we are all going with consumption - we&#039;re doing far more damage to our children&#039;s futures than any genocide i can imagine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah &#8211; more optimism please!  I watched the Gore doc, too, and if anyone lifts a finger to reverse climate change we should be appauding &#8211; at the rate we are all going with consumption &#8211; we&#8217;re doing far more damage to our children&#8217;s futures than any genocide i can imagine</p>
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		<title>By: Bert Preast</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/788#comment-36694</link>
		<dc:creator>Bert Preast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 23:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course not.  I&#039;m self employed too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course not.  I&#8217;m self employed too.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Stiles</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/788#comment-36692</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Stiles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 23:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;i&gt;
Branson has done nothing yet to make me distrust him. If we had to elect a god, heâ€™d do.
&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Tax evasion doesn&#039;t count?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
<i><br />
Branson has done nothing yet to make me distrust him. If we had to elect a god, heâ€™d do.<br />
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<p>Tax evasion doesn&#8217;t count?</p>
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		<title>By: Bert Preast</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/788#comment-36691</link>
		<dc:creator>Bert Preast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 23:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Branson has done nothing yet to make me distrust him.  If we had to elect a god, he&#039;d do.  

Man, I thought I had it bad but some of you lads are incurably cynical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Branson has done nothing yet to make me distrust him.  If we had to elect a god, he&#8217;d do.  </p>
<p>Man, I thought I had it bad but some of you lads are incurably cynical.</p>
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		<title>By: Rakhee</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/788#comment-36688</link>
		<dc:creator>Rakhee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 23:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a win win plan. Branson is about as shrewd as they come.  He puts money in to something to make something back. It&#039;s business and I like the transparency of it all.

The good things here are that:
a. it is a considerable amount of money
b. he&#039;s investing it in a sector which desperately needs these funds
c. importantly, he&#039;s sending a clear message that this is something which needs all of our attention - whether you&#039;re a consumer or a political leader

Genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a win win plan. Branson is about as shrewd as they come.  He puts money in to something to make something back. It&#8217;s business and I like the transparency of it all.</p>
<p>The good things here are that:<br />
a. it is a considerable amount of money<br />
b. he&#8217;s investing it in a sector which desperately needs these funds<br />
c. importantly, he&#8217;s sending a clear message that this is something which needs all of our attention &#8211; whether you&#8217;re a consumer or a political leader</p>
<p>Genius.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Stiles</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/788#comment-36686</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Stiles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 23:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question is do we mind if people do the right thing for reasons that might appear to us to be slightly ignoble?

&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;i&gt;
BTW, how does someone get so much money that they can give 3 billion of it away, no matrer how good the cause.
&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is not a donation - it&#039;s an investment fund which will provide venture finance to various green projects.  I also suspect that like most Virgin companies - excepting the Airline - the bulk of the money is not Branson&#039;s and he is merely acting as the front man.

Personally, I feel that reality dictates that the carbon reduction will always include a fairly significant contribution of this sort from the private sector.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question is do we mind if people do the right thing for reasons that might appear to us to be slightly ignoble?</p>
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<i><br />
BTW, how does someone get so much money that they can give 3 billion of it away, no matrer how good the cause.<br />
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<p>This is not a donation &#8211; it&#8217;s an investment fund which will provide venture finance to various green projects.  I also suspect that like most Virgin companies &#8211; excepting the Airline &#8211; the bulk of the money is not Branson&#8217;s and he is merely acting as the front man.</p>
<p>Personally, I feel that reality dictates that the carbon reduction will always include a fairly significant contribution of this sort from the private sector.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/788#comment-36684</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 20:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Arif. It is not earth-shaking but its a start towards hopefully a more meaningful policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Arif. It is not earth-shaking but its a start towards hopefully a more meaningful policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 20:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonia,

Point. But if he really means it, it puts him up there with Bill Gates in philanthropists. I wonder if it is possible, or even likely, that Virgin can offset their pollution with as even a generous gesture as this?

Douglas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonia,</p>
<p>Point. But if he really means it, it puts him up there with Bill Gates in philanthropists. I wonder if it is possible, or even likely, that Virgin can offset their pollution with as even a generous gesture as this?</p>
<p>Douglas</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/788#comment-36680</link>
		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well of course it&#039;s a &#039;good thing&#039; and should be encouraged! 

 i&#039;m sure he&#039;s perfectly aware if he invested the money into his own business to improve it that would count as a &#039;very good thing&#039; and &#039;green&#039; etc. Better cheaper trains would go a long way to reducing unnecessary air travel within the country and car journeys! a major way to cut down on carbon emissions.  so im a bit perplexed as to who he&#039;s going to give his money to - i mean - he could do both - which would be the sensible thing of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well of course it&#8217;s a &#8216;good thing&#8217; and should be encouraged! </p>
<p> i&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s perfectly aware if he invested the money into his own business to improve it that would count as a &#8216;very good thing&#8217; and &#8216;green&#8217; etc. Better cheaper trains would go a long way to reducing unnecessary air travel within the country and car journeys! a major way to cut down on carbon emissions.  so im a bit perplexed as to who he&#8217;s going to give his money to &#8211; i mean &#8211; he could do both &#8211; which would be the sensible thing of course.</p>
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