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		<title>By: GR</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/787/comment-page-2#comment-38533</link>
		<dc:creator>GR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dear Anna.

This is regarding the comments you have made on 22nd September, 2006 at 4:10 pm.
 
You have a wrong perception on Srilankan&#039;s and Buddhism in Sri Lanka. I was worried after going through your comments realizing that you have not only criticized the religion but also the country.

Yes there’s a civil war going on in the country. But the comments you have made are confusing the minds of people who reads your words.

If u can send me an email address I can send u a Power Point Presentation including how the LTTE have treated Sinhalese, Christian and Muslim also how they have killed their own Tamil brothers.

What you have written is not what you have experienced by your self but I’m sure you have phrased them from some where else.

So let me correct you by sending you the true artifacts.

Always with Metta.
Live long my friend</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dear Anna.</p>
<p>This is regarding the comments you have made on 22nd September, 2006 at 4:10 pm.</p>
<p>You have a wrong perception on Srilankan&#8217;s and Buddhism in Sri Lanka. I was worried after going through your comments realizing that you have not only criticized the religion but also the country.</p>
<p>Yes there’s a civil war going on in the country. But the comments you have made are confusing the minds of people who reads your words.</p>
<p>If u can send me an email address I can send u a Power Point Presentation including how the LTTE have treated Sinhalese, Christian and Muslim also how they have killed their own Tamil brothers.</p>
<p>What you have written is not what you have experienced by your self but I’m sure you have phrased them from some where else.</p>
<p>So let me correct you by sending you the true artifacts.</p>
<p>Always with Metta.<br />
Live long my friend</p>
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		<title>By: Chairwoman</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/787/comment-page-2#comment-36838</link>
		<dc:creator>Chairwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mirax, sorry you misread me.  Of course he didn&#039;t write it, and yes I did know it was written by Shakyamuni Buddha, if you read the sentence again with a different inflection you will see that &#039;his&#039; refers to Shakyamuni Buddha and not Nichiren.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mirax, sorry you misread me.  Of course he didn&#8217;t write it, and yes I did know it was written by Shakyamuni Buddha, if you read the sentence again with a different inflection you will see that &#8216;his&#8217; refers to Shakyamuni Buddha and not Nichiren.</p>
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		<title>By: mirax</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/787/comment-page-2#comment-36832</link>
		<dc:creator>mirax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sajini- my apologies for misunderstanding you.

Chairwoman, 
&gt;&gt; it was he who decided that the Lotus Sutra was his ultimate gift to humanity. 


Wait a sec, you do know that the Lotus Sutra was not authored by Nichiren, right? He merely focussed his teachings upon it, as he considered it the highest of Buddhist teachings. The Lotus sutra was probably put together in BCE 1 in Kashmir.It is supposed to be a discourse delivered by Sakyamuni himself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Sutra


as for the &#039;merit&#039; earning, yeah it exists as it is possibly a much easier concept for most lay buddhists than the somewhat counter-intuitive &#039;all karma, good and bad, binds you&#039; concept.

Only the discipline of Dharma can free one and those who do not devote themselves fully to the religious life (i.e., by entering the Sangha) cannot expect to achieve nirvana within the present life, but they can build up merit,providing a better rebirth, in which they might be able to live the religious life more fully. Hence merit is simply a means to a better chance of working out one&#039;s dharma, not a means of achieving nirvana itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sajini- my apologies for misunderstanding you.</p>
<p>Chairwoman,<br />
&gt;&gt; it was he who decided that the Lotus Sutra was his ultimate gift to humanity. </p>
<p>Wait a sec, you do know that the Lotus Sutra was not authored by Nichiren, right? He merely focussed his teachings upon it, as he considered it the highest of Buddhist teachings. The Lotus sutra was probably put together in BCE 1 in Kashmir.It is supposed to be a discourse delivered by Sakyamuni himself.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Sutra" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Sutra</a></p>
<p>as for the &#8216;merit&#8217; earning, yeah it exists as it is possibly a much easier concept for most lay buddhists than the somewhat counter-intuitive &#8216;all karma, good and bad, binds you&#8217; concept.</p>
<p>Only the discipline of Dharma can free one and those who do not devote themselves fully to the religious life (i.e., by entering the Sangha) cannot expect to achieve nirvana within the present life, but they can build up merit,providing a better rebirth, in which they might be able to live the religious life more fully. Hence merit is simply a means to a better chance of working out one&#8217;s dharma, not a means of achieving nirvana itself.</p>
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		<title>By: SajiniW</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/787/comment-page-1#comment-36828</link>
		<dc:creator>SajiniW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mirax - I&#039;m trying to agree with you - the JHU are a bunch of racist gimps who should have no role in the political process thanks to the path they&#039;ve chosen to follow. I don&#039;t approve of them/their policies/their supporters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mirax &#8211; I&#8217;m trying to agree with you &#8211; the JHU are a bunch of racist gimps who should have no role in the political process thanks to the path they&#8217;ve chosen to follow. I don&#8217;t approve of them/their policies/their supporters.</p>
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		<title>By: Chairwoman</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/787/comment-page-1#comment-36827</link>
		<dc:creator>Chairwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mirax - I assure you that there are many Buddhist groups who &#039;earn points&#039; by chanting, and attempt also to &#039;store up good Karma&#039;.  Also certainly the Sokka Gakai&#039;s aim is not only one&#039;s personal human revolution (ie working towards enlightment), but also Kosen Rufu.  I didn&#039;t pull this out of a hat.  Dammit, I did it for 7 years! But then, although Nichiren devotees revere Guatama, they believe that he is not the Buddha for this age, and that Nichiren is, as it was he who decided that the Lotus Sutra was his ultimate gift to humanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mirax &#8211; I assure you that there are many Buddhist groups who &#8216;earn points&#8217; by chanting, and attempt also to &#8217;store up good Karma&#8217;.  Also certainly the Sokka Gakai&#8217;s aim is not only one&#8217;s personal human revolution (ie working towards enlightment), but also Kosen Rufu.  I didn&#8217;t pull this out of a hat.  Dammit, I did it for 7 years! But then, although Nichiren devotees revere Guatama, they believe that he is not the Buddha for this age, and that Nichiren is, as it was he who decided that the Lotus Sutra was his ultimate gift to humanity.</p>
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		<title>By: mirax</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/787/comment-page-1#comment-36826</link>
		<dc:creator>mirax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;personally think the JHU (monk party) have no role in SL politics - the clergy are supposed to be impartial.

Oh please! A political party (JHU)that fields 260 candidates -ALL MONKS- in the 2004 elections is a long, long way from impartiality. 

&gt;&gt; Anyway, both sides in the conflict have people of all races/religions fighting for them - what’s at stake isn’t religious

Maybe not for you, or even the Tamil tigers. but the monks from the JHU campaigned on a platform for 
&quot; establishing a dharmarajya in Sri Lanka, the JHU drew support mainly from the urban, middle-class voters, .... who were opposed to the peace negotiations with the LTTE, shifted loyalties to the JHU, which presented to the electorate a militant version of Sinhalese nationalism along with a message of moral regeneration.&quot;

 http://www.hindu.com/2004/04/12/stories/2004041201111000.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;personally think the JHU (monk party) have no role in SL politics &#8211; the clergy are supposed to be impartial.</p>
<p>Oh please! A political party (JHU)that fields 260 candidates -ALL MONKS- in the 2004 elections is a long, long way from impartiality. </p>
<p>&gt;&gt; Anyway, both sides in the conflict have people of all races/religions fighting for them &#8211; what’s at stake isn’t religious</p>
<p>Maybe not for you, or even the Tamil tigers. but the monks from the JHU campaigned on a platform for<br />
&#8221; establishing a dharmarajya in Sri Lanka, the JHU drew support mainly from the urban, middle-class voters, &#8230;. who were opposed to the peace negotiations with the LTTE, shifted loyalties to the JHU, which presented to the electorate a militant version of Sinhalese nationalism along with a message of moral regeneration.&#8221;</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.hindu.com/2004/04/12/stories/2004041201111000.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.hindu.com/2004/04/12/stories/2004041201111000.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: mirax</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/787/comment-page-1#comment-36824</link>
		<dc:creator>mirax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buddhist shrines all over south east asia from cambodia to bali often have a few hindu deities onsite. Chinese buddhist temples have Guan Yin(kannon in Japanese), an avolokiteswara incarnation, as well as taoist deities like Tua Peh Kong. Buddhism for the masses just does not work without these humanising additions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buddhist shrines all over south east asia from cambodia to bali often have a few hindu deities onsite. Chinese buddhist temples have Guan Yin(kannon in Japanese), an avolokiteswara incarnation, as well as taoist deities like Tua Peh Kong. Buddhism for the masses just does not work without these humanising additions.</p>
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		<title>By: mirax</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/787/comment-page-1#comment-36821</link>
		<dc:creator>mirax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like the earliest vedic hindus had animal sacrifices - including cattle- and had few restrictions against eating meat, the Buddha himself evidently ate meat and taught nothing of vegetarianism. It is Jainism&#039;s influence that led to the incorporation of a non-meat dietary tradition in the two religions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like the earliest vedic hindus had animal sacrifices &#8211; including cattle- and had few restrictions against eating meat, the Buddha himself evidently ate meat and taught nothing of vegetarianism. It is Jainism&#8217;s influence that led to the incorporation of a non-meat dietary tradition in the two religions.</p>
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		<title>By: SajiniW</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/787/comment-page-1#comment-36820</link>
		<dc:creator>SajiniW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason Buddhist temples in SL have Hindu shrines is due to former Kings having had to import wives from India. The wives &amp; their ladies in waiting needed somewhere to pray, Hinduism practices (e.g. praying for what you&#039;d like) spread in popularity &amp; the kovils did v.well thanks to the numbers coming with offerings of money &amp; goodies.

Hence, tagging a kovil onto your temple was a profitable plan. Cue their popularity. 

I personally think the JHU (monk party) have no role in SL politics - the clergy are supposed to be impartial. Anyway, both sides in the conflict have people of all races/religions fighting for them - what&#039;s at stake isn&#039;t religious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason Buddhist temples in SL have Hindu shrines is due to former Kings having had to import wives from India. The wives &amp; their ladies in waiting needed somewhere to pray, Hinduism practices (e.g. praying for what you&#8217;d like) spread in popularity &amp; the kovils did v.well thanks to the numbers coming with offerings of money &amp; goodies.</p>
<p>Hence, tagging a kovil onto your temple was a profitable plan. Cue their popularity. </p>
<p>I personally think the JHU (monk party) have no role in SL politics &#8211; the clergy are supposed to be impartial. Anyway, both sides in the conflict have people of all races/religions fighting for them &#8211; what&#8217;s at stake isn&#8217;t religious.</p>
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		<title>By: mirax</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/787/comment-page-1#comment-36819</link>
		<dc:creator>mirax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shared Assumptions of Buddhism and Hinduism (Upanishads):

1)Ordinary views concerning reality are inadequate and ultimately delusory(maya).

2) Earthly existence is essentially flawed: we form false and improper attachments, and, as a consequence, reap a miserable existence. Through rebirth, we are locked into a vicious cycleof suffering and delusion. This cycle is called samsara.

3) Ignorance (avidy_) prevents us from understanding reality as it truly is, and prevents us from perceiving the true nature of our own reality.

4) Through dispelling ignorance, we can learn to perceive the true nature of reality, and to free ourselves from false and improper attachments. As a result, we can eliminate suffering, and escape the vicious cycle of eternal suffering.

5) Self-effort is mandatory: we cannot look to any external forces to solve our problems for us. 

&lt;b&gt;The major difference is  Buddhism rejects the Upanishads&#039; idea of an abiding universal “self” or soul, the Atman. It has the concept of the non-self or non-soul, anatman, instead.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shared Assumptions of Buddhism and Hinduism (Upanishads):</p>
<p>1)Ordinary views concerning reality are inadequate and ultimately delusory(maya).</p>
<p>2) Earthly existence is essentially flawed: we form false and improper attachments, and, as a consequence, reap a miserable existence. Through rebirth, we are locked into a vicious cycleof suffering and delusion. This cycle is called samsara.</p>
<p>3) Ignorance (avidy_) prevents us from understanding reality as it truly is, and prevents us from perceiving the true nature of our own reality.</p>
<p>4) Through dispelling ignorance, we can learn to perceive the true nature of reality, and to free ourselves from false and improper attachments. As a result, we can eliminate suffering, and escape the vicious cycle of eternal suffering.</p>
<p>5) Self-effort is mandatory: we cannot look to any external forces to solve our problems for us. </p>
<p><b>The major difference is  Buddhism rejects the Upanishads&#8217; idea of an abiding universal “self” or soul, the Atman. It has the concept of the non-self or non-soul, anatman, instead.</b></p>
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		<title>By: mirax</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/787/comment-page-1#comment-36817</link>
		<dc:creator>mirax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chairwoman,

Buddhism 101: 

&gt;&gt;think people get a bit confused about Buddhism, although the ultimate aim is Kosen Rufu (world peace),

Erm, this is not the ultimate aim of Buddhism, at least not as that bloke Gautama Sidddharta saw it. The aim of buddhism is to free oneself from the karmic cycle of successive lives - as all life is suffering, dukka.

&gt;&gt;Also if someone takes a warlike action that is ultimately a good thing, it could be good Karma.

Good karma is as binding as bad karma and it is not  the aim of buddhism to &quot;earn&quot; good karma but to end karma (for oneself).

Btw, a buddhist has no soul- just in case that comes up next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chairwoman,</p>
<p>Buddhism 101: </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;think people get a bit confused about Buddhism, although the ultimate aim is Kosen Rufu (world peace),</p>
<p>Erm, this is not the ultimate aim of Buddhism, at least not as that bloke Gautama Sidddharta saw it. The aim of buddhism is to free oneself from the karmic cycle of successive lives &#8211; as all life is suffering, dukka.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;Also if someone takes a warlike action that is ultimately a good thing, it could be good Karma.</p>
<p>Good karma is as binding as bad karma and it is not  the aim of buddhism to &#8220;earn&#8221; good karma but to end karma (for oneself).</p>
<p>Btw, a buddhist has no soul- just in case that comes up next.</p>
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		<title>By: mirax</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/787/comment-page-1#comment-36816</link>
		<dc:creator>mirax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aum shinrikyo is as buddhist/hindu as david koresh&#039;s sect was &quot;christian&quot;. 

Anas, a note on the japanese examples you give above. Many of the east asian mahayana sects esp the Japanese ones have an eclectic mix of buddhist, taoist, confucianist and shinto beliefs, not to mention the founders&#039; personal fetishes. Suzuki may have yakked on all he liked about holy war, but there&#039;s no mention of that in ANY mainstream buddhist texts or teachings. You betray your own ignorance of buddhism if you take suzuki as a reference for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aum shinrikyo is as buddhist/hindu as david koresh&#8217;s sect was &#8220;christian&#8221;. </p>
<p>Anas, a note on the japanese examples you give above. Many of the east asian mahayana sects esp the Japanese ones have an eclectic mix of buddhist, taoist, confucianist and shinto beliefs, not to mention the founders&#8217; personal fetishes. Suzuki may have yakked on all he liked about holy war, but there&#8217;s no mention of that in ANY mainstream buddhist texts or teachings. You betray your own ignorance of buddhism if you take suzuki as a reference for it.</p>
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		<title>By: mirax</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/787/comment-page-1#comment-36815</link>
		<dc:creator>mirax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;In short: taking over a country of pious Buddhists is gonna be far easier than that of a nation of any other major religion imo. 

Wonder why the Americans lost in Vietnam then! And the genocide in Cambodia was just an aberration? Nope, devoutly buddhist nations like the thais, khmers, burmese etc have as bloody a history as anyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;In short: taking over a country of pious Buddhists is gonna be far easier than that of a nation of any other major religion imo. </p>
<p>Wonder why the Americans lost in Vietnam then! And the genocide in Cambodia was just an aberration? Nope, devoutly buddhist nations like the thais, khmers, burmese etc have as bloody a history as anyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Anas</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/787/comment-page-1#comment-36806</link>
		<dc:creator>Anas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 15:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops.  I should have differentiated the points I was responding to from the quotes I was pasting in that last post. But, you live and learn!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops.  I should have differentiated the points I was responding to from the quotes I was pasting in that last post. But, you live and learn!</p>
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		<title>By: Anas</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/787/comment-page-1#comment-36805</link>
		<dc:creator>Anas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 15:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Im sure they were - finding examples where folks committed violent acts in the name of Buddhism or using it as justification is quite a different matter altogether. &lt;/i&gt;

Didn&#039;t you look at the links I posted?
 
&lt;i&gt;With his oft-pictured gentle and sagacious appearance of later years, Suzuki is revered among many in the West as a true man of Zen. Yet he wrote that “religion should, first of all, seek to preserve the existence of the state,” followed by the assertion that the Chinese were “unruly heathens” whom Japan should punish “in the name of the religion.” Zen master Harada Sogaku, highly praised in the English writings of Philip Kapleau, Maezumi Taizan, and others, was also quoted by Hakugen [a Rinzai Zen priest and scholar teaching at Hanazono University in Kyoto]. In 1939 he wrote: “[If ordered to] march: tramp, tramp, or shoot: bang, bang. This is the manifestation of the highest Wisdom [of Enlightenment]. The unity of Zen and war of which I speak extends to the farthest reaches of the holy war [now under way]” (Victoria, 1997).&lt;/i&gt;

Holy war? Now where have I heard that one before?

&lt;i&gt;[A]s a means of bringing into harmony those things which are incompatible, killing and war are necessary (in Victoria, 1997). &lt;/i&gt;

That was from Suzuki&#039;s Master.

Another pertinent quote:

&lt;i&gt;Likewise for the sagely Omori Sogen, “lauded as the ‘greatest Zen master of modern times,’ whose very life is ‘worthy to be considered a masterpiece of Zen art’”: 

Instead of a master concerned with the “life-giving sword” ... of Zen, we encounter someone who from the 1920s took an active part in the ultra-right’s agenda to eliminate parliamentary democracy through political assassination at home and promote Japan’s imperialist aims abroad. In short, a man willing to kill all who stood in the way of his political agenda, yet claiming the enlightenment of the Buddha as his own.... 
Hosokawa Dogen writes: “The life of Omori Roshi is the manifestation of traditional and true Zen” (Victoria, 2003). &lt;/i&gt;


&lt;i&gt;and yet there was never a backlash against the religion or race of the perpetrators…it just didnt happen.&lt;/i&gt;

From http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/C/can_you_believe_it/debates/fundamentalists.html:

&lt;i&gt;In Sri Lanka 70% of the people are Buddhists. It is 2,550 years since the death of Buddha, who taught his followers to seek enlightenment and spiritual development rather than material gain. Many young men take monastic vows and devote their lives to studying his teaching. But in Sri Lanka, some militant monks have a distinctly 21st century interpretation of Buddhism.

Sri Lanka is in the throes of a recurring civil war being fought out between the secular Tamil Tigers and government military forces. Hardline nationalist monks who are allies of the country&#039;s president, are violently opposed to demands for an independent homeland for the Tamils, some of whom are Hindu and some Christian. They believe that Buddha visited Sri Lanka and argue that the Tamil Tigers are a threat to the country&#039;s Buddhist tradition. These radical monks argue that this justifies them fighting on the front lines along with the army.

Though there are many Buddhists, including monks, who oppose the hardliners, the peace lobby in Sri Lanka is led by people with a secular mindset, who have not adequately addressed the concerns of believers. These concerns include the impact of globalisation on societies that have, until recently, been sheltered from outside influences. An anthropologist explains that many people feel that their cultural identity is under attack – that their sense of being Sinhalese or Tamil or Buddhist is being downgraded.

The new breed of radical monks are so determined to protect Sinhalese culture that they are proposing an anti-conversion law, to counteract the appeal of new proselytising Christian groups that offer food, money and material possessions to people. There are also police reports of dozens of attacks on churches. 

It is hard to grasp the idea of Buddhists being fundamentalists but if fundamentalism is the intense politicisation of religion, then these extreme nationalist monks certainly come into that category.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Im sure they were &#8211; finding examples where folks committed violent acts in the name of Buddhism or using it as justification is quite a different matter altogether. </i></p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t you look at the links I posted?</p>
<p><i>With his oft-pictured gentle and sagacious appearance of later years, Suzuki is revered among many in the West as a true man of Zen. Yet he wrote that “religion should, first of all, seek to preserve the existence of the state,” followed by the assertion that the Chinese were “unruly heathens” whom Japan should punish “in the name of the religion.” Zen master Harada Sogaku, highly praised in the English writings of Philip Kapleau, Maezumi Taizan, and others, was also quoted by Hakugen [a Rinzai Zen priest and scholar teaching at Hanazono University in Kyoto]. In 1939 he wrote: “[If ordered to] march: tramp, tramp, or shoot: bang, bang. This is the manifestation of the highest Wisdom [of Enlightenment]. The unity of Zen and war of which I speak extends to the farthest reaches of the holy war [now under way]” (Victoria, 1997).</i></p>
<p>Holy war? Now where have I heard that one before?</p>
<p><i>[A]s a means of bringing into harmony those things which are incompatible, killing and war are necessary (in Victoria, 1997). </i></p>
<p>That was from Suzuki&#8217;s Master.</p>
<p>Another pertinent quote:</p>
<p><i>Likewise for the sagely Omori Sogen, “lauded as the ‘greatest Zen master of modern times,’ whose very life is ‘worthy to be considered a masterpiece of Zen art’”: </p>
<p>Instead of a master concerned with the “life-giving sword” &#8230; of Zen, we encounter someone who from the 1920s took an active part in the ultra-right’s agenda to eliminate parliamentary democracy through political assassination at home and promote Japan’s imperialist aims abroad. In short, a man willing to kill all who stood in the way of his political agenda, yet claiming the enlightenment of the Buddha as his own&#8230;.<br />
Hosokawa Dogen writes: “The life of Omori Roshi is the manifestation of traditional and true Zen” (Victoria, 2003). </i></p>
<p><i>and yet there was never a backlash against the religion or race of the perpetrators…it just didnt happen.</i></p>
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<p><i>In Sri Lanka 70% of the people are Buddhists. It is 2,550 years since the death of Buddha, who taught his followers to seek enlightenment and spiritual development rather than material gain. Many young men take monastic vows and devote their lives to studying his teaching. But in Sri Lanka, some militant monks have a distinctly 21st century interpretation of Buddhism.</p>
<p>Sri Lanka is in the throes of a recurring civil war being fought out between the secular Tamil Tigers and government military forces. Hardline nationalist monks who are allies of the country&#8217;s president, are violently opposed to demands for an independent homeland for the Tamils, some of whom are Hindu and some Christian. They believe that Buddha visited Sri Lanka and argue that the Tamil Tigers are a threat to the country&#8217;s Buddhist tradition. These radical monks argue that this justifies them fighting on the front lines along with the army.</p>
<p>Though there are many Buddhists, including monks, who oppose the hardliners, the peace lobby in Sri Lanka is led by people with a secular mindset, who have not adequately addressed the concerns of believers. These concerns include the impact of globalisation on societies that have, until recently, been sheltered from outside influences. An anthropologist explains that many people feel that their cultural identity is under attack – that their sense of being Sinhalese or Tamil or Buddhist is being downgraded.</p>
<p>The new breed of radical monks are so determined to protect Sinhalese culture that they are proposing an anti-conversion law, to counteract the appeal of new proselytising Christian groups that offer food, money and material possessions to people. There are also police reports of dozens of attacks on churches. </p>
<p>It is hard to grasp the idea of Buddhists being fundamentalists but if fundamentalism is the intense politicisation of religion, then these extreme nationalist monks certainly come into that category.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Chairwoman</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shogun was also full of lots of blokes shouting &#039;Your mother!&#039; at each other.  And had Richard Chamberlain playing the hero in the mini series for goodness sake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shogun was also full of lots of blokes shouting &#8216;Your mother!&#8217; at each other.  And had Richard Chamberlain playing the hero in the mini series for goodness sake.</p>
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		<title>By: Scroll_lock</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arent&#039; Aum Shinrikyo, the cult behind the Sarin attacks on the Tokyo subway system, based on Hinduism and Buddhism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arent&#8217; Aum Shinrikyo, the cult behind the Sarin attacks on the Tokyo subway system, based on Hinduism and Buddhism?</p>
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		<title>By: Jagdeep</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Bert Preast that looks wonderful. Must be cool to visit and just chill out at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Bert Preast that looks wonderful. Must be cool to visit and just chill out at.</p>
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		<title>By: Jai</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: The Japanese history of warfare in relation to Buddhism.

This subject was heavily discussed in James Clavell&#039;s famous novels &quot;Shogun&quot; and (to a lesser extent) &quot;Gai-Jin&quot;. From what I understand -- assuming the writer&#039;s descriptions were accurate -- although Japanese warriors were indeed technically Buddhist, they regarded being born Samurai as a curse, as they believed themselves to be trapped in the whole &quot;Bushido&quot; Samurai ethos which obviously contradicted the more pacifist teachings of traditional Buddhism. Shintoism also had an influence on them, obviously.

I don&#039;t know if this mindset still existed during the time of the Kamikazis -- who were also influenced by Samurai culture -- but I thought it was an interesting point anyway.</description>
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<p>This subject was heavily discussed in James Clavell&#8217;s famous novels &#8220;Shogun&#8221; and (to a lesser extent) &#8220;Gai-Jin&#8221;. From what I understand &#8212; assuming the writer&#8217;s descriptions were accurate &#8212; although Japanese warriors were indeed technically Buddhist, they regarded being born Samurai as a curse, as they believed themselves to be trapped in the whole &#8220;Bushido&#8221; Samurai ethos which obviously contradicted the more pacifist teachings of traditional Buddhism. Shintoism also had an influence on them, obviously.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if this mindset still existed during the time of the Kamikazis &#8212; who were also influenced by Samurai culture &#8212; but I thought it was an interesting point anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Chairwoman</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think people get a bit confused about Buddhism, although the ultimate aim is Kosen Rufu (world peace), it doesn&#039;t necessarily mean that road is always going to be peaceful. Nichiren was a feisty little Buddha, and was always up for a ruck if the cause was good.  Hence his exiles. Also if someone takes a warlike action that is ultimately a good thing, it could be good Karma.

OK  my head is now spinning.  This is one of those subjects that needs conversation with interruptions and people jumping up and down and getting animated.  It doesn&#039;t work for me in print.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people get a bit confused about Buddhism, although the ultimate aim is Kosen Rufu (world peace), it doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean that road is always going to be peaceful. Nichiren was a feisty little Buddha, and was always up for a ruck if the cause was good.  Hence his exiles. Also if someone takes a warlike action that is ultimately a good thing, it could be good Karma.</p>
<p>OK  my head is now spinning.  This is one of those subjects that needs conversation with interruptions and people jumping up and down and getting animated.  It doesn&#8217;t work for me in print.</p>
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