In any case, it doesn’t really matter does it? if people are scared shitless the job is done.

im getting on a flight in a few days hopefully – fingers crossed they’ll be no dumbasses – i really think i might lose it and throw a tantrum and then where would i be? Belmarsh!!

Here are some examples: carrying a gun; telling someone next to you that you’re going to hijack the plane; whipping out a razor blade; taking a cellphone out when you’re not supposed to during a flight and refusing to put it away when instructed to do so.

See, it’s not so hard.

Actually, i thought it was a matter of passing cellphones and plastic bags back and forth, or something like that but I dont recall if i heard it 2nd, third, forth hand etc.

In any case, I dont want to assume that there was not a real,and suspicious element or factor that caused the reaction by northwest.
also, profiling may look at race, country of origin,where and how recently an individual has been in various countries Amount of baggage, and other stuff and i am sure a white person would also be pulled aside given other factors triggered alarm.

Racial profiling is by definition racist. I’m not saying that those who advoate it are racist, but lets not pretend that racists are more than likely to be supportive of these kind of measures than not.

You still have not defined what you would define the “strange or stupid behaviour” that you use to justify profiling.

I did not state anything about the behaviour of the TWA twelve. I was making a general point about stupid and strange behaviour in planes or airports. There are a number of number of white non-Muslims who have brought attention to themselves because of behaviour, so don’t pretend you know this case was definitively about race profiling, rather than concerns about behaviour. Such judgements made be hard to make, but we all know what the reaction would be if an attack suceeded, which might have been prevented – you’d be blaming those you are currently calling racist , calling them incompetant instead. The idea that anyone can be 100% accurate in any job is ridiculous, false events are bound to occur. But then if people weren’t making liquid bombs or flying planes into buildings none of this would be happening…

I don’t know what gets you in a flap until you tell me.

The flip side of course is it’s telling any actual terrorists what not to do – but I suspect any that are good enough to get onto an airliner are already going to be up with that.

Perhaps brown people should know what constitutes the kind of behaviour that will get them arrested in airports. I’m thinking a public information campaign.

You don’t turn the plane back and whistle up a fighter escort for nothing, do you?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1853695,00.html

What exactly did these 12 men do that constituted behaviour that was deemed worthy of arrest?