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  • Terrorists in Pakistan hit girl’s school

    by Sunny
    4th February, 2010 at 11:03 am    

    Huffington Post reports:

    A roadside bomb killed three U.S. soldiers and partly destroyed a girls’ school in northwest Pakistan on Wednesday in an attack that drew attention to a little-publicized American military training mission in the al-Qaida and Taliban heartland.

    The blast also killed three schoolgirls and a Pakistani soldier who was traveling with the Americans. Two more U.S. soldiers were wounded, along with more than 100 other people, mostly students at the school, officials said.

    The explosion flattened much of the school, leaving books, bags and pens strewn in the rubble. “It was a horrible situation,” said Mohammad Siddiq, a 40-year-old guard at the school. “Many girls were wounded, crying for help and were trapped in the debris.”

    Siddiq said the death toll would have been much worse if the blast had occurred only minutes later because most of the girls were still playing in the yard and had not yet returned to classrooms, some of which collapsed.

    Completely sickening, but then this has been happening for a while in Pakistan and the media hasn’t really noticed. This is also the reason why I support forcing the Pakistani establishment to confront the menace that is Al-Qaeda and the Taliban - and withdraw institutional support.

    Even if the Americans leave the terrorists will still want to take power and they will continue to bomb schools and kill innocent people until they get their way.

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    1. pickles

      Blog post:: Terrorists in Pakistan hit girl's school

    1. platinum786 — on 4th February, 2010 at 11:57 am  

      What makes you think the government isn’t fighting terrorists?

      Do you even know where the the bombing took place? Dir. Dir is next to Swat, you might remember quite a large military operation in Dir and Swat.

      Ironic how you don’t think military action will stop terrorism anywhere in the world apart from Pakistan.

    2. platinum786 — on 4th February, 2010 at 12:05 pm  

      Btw I agree with you, the government isn’t committed to anti terrorism activity in Pakistan, teachers in swat haven’t been paid their wages since June, but we have money for a statue of Benazir Bhutto…

    3. Martin Sullivan — on 4th February, 2010 at 1:44 pm  

      This is all the consequence of permitting utterances like those of Mad Mel:

      See what I mean?

    4. The Common Humanist — on 5th February, 2010 at 12:36 am  

      “”Even if the Americans leave the terrorists will still want to take power and they will continue to bomb schools and kill innocent people until they get their way”"

      Exactly, it is not about the US/UN/NATO, it is about a death cult wanting to (hijack a world religion) and take over Pakistan and its capabilities. End of story.

      We either make a stand in A/P or we start pondering quite which Indian, UK, US, French, German, Russian etc etc etc city gets to die and millions be murdered.

      Talibanism is the new Nazism/Stalinism/Juchism/Maoism - i.e. a death cult, it is not progressive, it is not cool, it is not negotiable with or can listen to reason and by a very large margin its victims are and will be fellow muslims.

      But hey, am sure most students are immune to such things and mass death cults will be continued to fetishised at UCL or at Bradford Uni (one of my old schools at it happens) and they always have the unthinking rationale of blaming the Israelis or the west for what ever happens, irrespective of the facts.

    5. douglas clark — on 5th February, 2010 at 1:13 am  


      Well, apart from your usual militaristic rant, what can we expect from you?

      Give us some ideas that aren’t completely stupid….

    6. platinum786 — on 5th February, 2010 at 8:32 am  

      Militaristic? Did you lose the ability to read Doug, or are you just choosing not to use it? My first post asked questions of why people think military options will help and my second talked of teachers in the areas affected by terrorism not being paid their salaries.

      What about that constitutes militaristic?

    7. platinum786 — on 5th February, 2010 at 8:35 am  

      As for ideas?

      Hows these for you…

      1. Remove military forces from Afghanistan, stop backing the Karzai government which does not reflect the true power brokers in Afghanistan, the pukhtun tribes.

      2. Agree a deal with the pukhtun tribes about forming a national unity government in Afghanistan for 10 years where everyone will be represented. Back it up with a Marshall plan style rebuilding project to give them a reason to share the power they’re winning fom your clutches.

      3. Agree deals with the “Taliban” that they will not support Al-Queda and international terrorism from Afghanistan as long as the west removes troops from Afghanistan, lets them have say in the form of the new government and a international redevelopment plan of Afghanistan is thrown into the mix.

      4. Stop supporting Indian involvement in Afghanistan, you won’t get any Pakistani support in Afghanistan whilst te Indians are involved, especially considering both countries governments are talking of going to war, the Indians over “terrorist” threats and the Pakistani’s over the illegal damming of rivers flowing to Pakistan by India. Only yesterday Pakistani ministers were saying war is an option.

      You can either do as your told, or do what you want and be forced to do the above 3 steps in due time.

      You are losing the war, you will continue to lose the war. The ISI will not back you whilst India is present in Afghanistan, as the uzbeks and Tajiks resent us for our past support of the Pukhtuns and hence they will work against us, and we can’t have that enemy on two borders, it’s against our national interest to hell with the world and it’s security.

    8. Cauldron — on 5th February, 2010 at 8:54 am  

      Here’s a few more for your list platinum786:

      1. Stop funding the ISI

      2. Stop putting inverted commas around the word “terrorist”. I agree the word is bandied about rather freely but the amount of denialism that comes out of Pakistan (e.g. in relation to the Mumbai attacks) is just amazing. Have the good grace to admit there is a problem rather than just blaming other people.

      3. As you say, put more money into education. And female literacy initiatives. Real education mind you, not a few years rote-learning some ancient religious texts. Pakistan has the potential to do a lot better than it does in education. There really is no excuse for Pakistan being mentioned in the same breath as sub-Saharan Africa in articles such as this:

      4. Spend less time shouting at America. Be grateful for their incredible generosity to Pakistan and use their money to promote real changes in Pakistani society, such as land reform and an end to feudalism.

    9. platinum786 — on 5th February, 2010 at 9:27 am  

      How stupid of Pakistan and Pakistani’s to not notice the simple things eh. Yeah the feudals in government you guys are giving money to are really hot on land reform and and end to their own power base.

      Also your right we don’t need an intelligence service looking after our national interest, what for when we have white men telling us what our interests are.

    10. Cauldron — on 5th February, 2010 at 9:34 am  

      For the record, do you belIeve that supportIng the TalIban Is In PakIstan’s natIonal Interest?

    11. douglas clark — on 5th February, 2010 at 9:35 am  

      platinum786 @ 6,

      Och, I was just going with your vibe. I seem to recall, correct me if I am wrong, that you were an excuser for Pakistan expansionism? I seem to recall, correct me if I am wrong that you think militarism is OK? I seem to recall that you described Bangladeshis’ as traitors?

      Y’know what?

      I don’t like you.

      You are a fucking English Victorian, so you are…

    12. douglas clark — on 5th February, 2010 at 9:54 am  

      Platinum786 certainly wears his heart on his sleeve:

      The Bangladeshi traitors faced it in the 70’s when they broke away…


      I assume he is quite happy that China invaded Tibet, reclaiming it’s ‘historical’ territory?

      He hasn’t really justified what Peter Tachell claims in the first few paragraphs of this link:

      Except by claiming that Pakistan is entitled, by force majeure apparently, to do what the heck it likes. Perhaps he’d like to try justifying it a bit better than that.

      I’d suggest that Platinum 786 has a lot of explaining to do.

    13. platinum786 — on 5th February, 2010 at 10:12 am  

      Cauldron, we don’t lose anything by not taking sides in Afghanistan, we lose out if they are gaining territory in Pakistan, hence the Pakistani position to take on elements who challenge the Pakistani state and ignore the others.

      Doug, I’ve never met a Victorian, so i don’t know what i’m being described as, sorry. As for Bangladesh, a lot of Pakistani’s consider them as traitors, however they’re not entirely at fault for the problem, the traitors in government in Pakistan at the time, had equal responsbility. At the end of the day they did betray the federation.

      I just don’t understand how WASP’s even the liberals can’t get rid of the coloniaist mindsets of “we know best”. No you don’t, you do what is in your interest, we do what is in ours. What makes you think, you know better than the government of a country, the population of a country, the opposition of a country, the armed forces of a country. an entire nation is at concensus about it’s interests and the west thinks it knows better than us, why is that?

    14. joe90 — on 5th February, 2010 at 10:44 am  

      When the cowardly american drones bomb civilian area’s which has been going on for some time killing over 700 innocent civilians the western media don’t notice!

    15. platinum786 — on 5th February, 2010 at 11:07 am  

      ^^ frankly mate, i don’t care who’s killing people, the fact of the matter is, innocent people are dying.

    16. Cauldron — on 5th February, 2010 at 2:17 pm  


      1. That’s a logical and straightforward reply. You argue that your country should fight terrorism/Talibs within Pakistan and ignore it outside. Fair enough. But you should not then complain if other countries like the Great Satan also act in their best interests.

      2. Does your position mean that, if OBL is sheltering in Pakistan but not directly challenging the Pakistani state, would you leave him alone?

      3. Let’s say the Americans stop interfering in Af-Pak, and stops spending money propping up, as you suggest, the Karachi elite. Let’s also make the assumption that the Taliban then takes over in Kabul. In this scenario how do you think the Pakistani polity looks in 5 years time? Does (a) Pakistani democracy flourish as instability recedes; (b) Pakistani society become more backward as core Taliban values seep across the border; (c) the status quo continue, except with the Chinese replacing the west as paymasters in return for mineral rights and sovereignty over Gwadar; (d) the military provoke a war with India in order to retain power or (e) some other scenario?

    17. Cauldron — on 5th February, 2010 at 2:21 pm  

      Oh, talking of failure to co-operate with the civilised international community, I notice that your cricketers couldn’t beat Australia even once. Kudos - it takes a special skill to develop Attention Deficit Disorder during the course of a 20 over game.

    18. platinum786 — on 5th February, 2010 at 3:24 pm  

      ooh we lost at cricket, boohoo!

    19. douglas clark — on 5th February, 2010 at 3:28 pm  

      platinum786 @ 13,


      I just don’t understand how WASP’s even the liberals can’t get rid of the coloniaist mindsets of “we know best”. No you don’t, you do what is in your interest, we do what is in ours. What makes you think, you know better than the government of a country, the population of a country, the opposition of a country, the armed forces of a country. an entire nation is at concensus about it’s interests and the west thinks it knows better than us, why is that?

      I am kind of against neo-colonialism, whether it is practiced by the Peoples Republic of China, the USA or, come to that, Pakistan.

      Your beloved country has the potential to become a failed state with nuclear weapons. That is what worries me.

      By the way, describing me as a WASP is only 25% true. The white bit is undeniable, the Anglo Saxon Protestant is eminently wrong… And, given that my forefathers do not have appeared to have featured largely in the Empire, I take nothing from your ideas about who ‘us’ is.

      Whether I know better or not is obviously moot. You majoritarian you!

    20. platinum786 — on 5th February, 2010 at 3:37 pm  

      Who’s the Karachi elite? The MQM? Even they don’t hold that much of Karachi. The PPP is a national party. The PML-N has it’s big bosses sat in Raiwind. PML-Q has it’s head honcho’s based out of Gujurat. You don’t seem to know too much about Pakistani politics and yet you present your opinions like matter of fact.

      Letting the Taliban take over Kabul is not positive for anyone. If they win totally they get to enforce terms totally, nobody wants that. There is no incentive for them to become more normal, to drop the lunatic fringe. At the same time, losing a war against them isn’t helping either is it?! The only reason the Taliban exist as such a powerful entity is because they are a proxy of the pukhtun tribes who have been neglected power and they are ignored by Pakistan as by creating instability they don’t allow Indian roots to settle in Afghanistan.

      The answer to Kabul is a national unity government, without Indian involvement, which is representative of the power brokers in the nation and not distorted to include more “allies” of the west. Then you need a long term redevelopment plan, not carrots and sticks to manipluate leaders with, and you need a long term Afghan centric security plan to help them rid themselves of Al queda remenants. Al queda cannot operate without local support in Afghanistan.

      If you’d do that, in Pakistan the majority of the Taliban problem we face would go away, the Haqqani network would have no need to exist and we’d have no reason to ignore it. The Pakistani military is completely capable of controlling the territory of FATA, as long as we support the locals and visa versa.

      As for development of Pakistan generally, I think you need to let Pakistan get into the hands of the middle classes, people who don’t like you, people who won’t obey you all the time. Let Pakistan make it’s own decisions at the ballots. If you want to help Pakistan help it with money on the ground, not into political and military pockets. Helping fund electrical generation projects would help the economy, aid and loans given to a guy known as Mr 10% in his country, won’t. If you want to help Pakistan, do it the right way, if you don’t leave it alone, Pakistan has survived without foreign help before and will do so again.

    21. douglas clark — on 5th February, 2010 at 3:45 pm  


      Am I allowed to say that whoever blew up that girls school is not someone I’d like to have living beside me? Is that western liberal elitism? Or, more likely, a universal truth.

      Your move.

    22. Grammar pedant — on 6th February, 2010 at 2:22 am  

      Just the one girl at the school then?

      or does some ignorant fucker need a crash course in apostophe usage?

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