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  • Stories for today (Friday)

    by Sunny
    22nd January, 2010 at 9:10 am    

    Robert Fisk: Hizbollah and Israel are preparing for war
    The Hizbollah claimed that the 2006 war with Israel was a “divine victory” – it didn’t feel that way to us in southern Lebanon at the time – yet even Israel admits it was a near-defeat for its own ill-trained soldiers. But how would Israel react if the Hizbollah managed to enter Israel itself? Israeli army commanders are talking about this in the Israeli press. A fast, dramatic spring across the frontier to the west – in the direction of Naharia, perhaps, or a grab at the settlement of Kiryat Shmona – and Hizbollah would announce it had “liberated” part of historic “Palestine”. Israel would have to bomb its own territory to get them out.

    Muslim sect launches ‘peace’ ad campaign
    It is being launched by the Ahmadiyya Muslim Association of UK, who represent a small sect of Islam, and will include ads on buses as well as doorstep leafleting. It is supported by a new website:, which they say seeks to change the perception of Islam, “by clarifying its true teachings and emphasising the need for these to be put in practice by all Muslims”.

    ‘No idea when Guantanamo Bay will be closed’
    The White House admitted yesterday that they did not know when Guantanamo Bay will be closed.
    The response came a year after President Obama vowed to close the controversial facility. But yesterday the White House admitted it a time-table was now up in the air.

    Shahid Mursaleen: A fatwa can support peace rather than terrorism
    The only person that has been able to produce what is an unprecedented 600-page fatwa [religious edict] against terrorism is a leading authority in Islam, Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri. In what is the most comprehensive edict on this topic in the history of Islam, Dr Qadri has explained how suicide bombings and terrorism is unequivocally un-Islamic. In his Fatwa book he has stated that “all these acts are grave violations of human rights Islamic law.”

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    1. platinum786 — on 22nd January, 2010 at 10:29 am  

      You’ll find almost most Islamic groups have rejected and denouced terrorism. This includes the Deoband School and the Tabjeelgi Jamaat, as well as endless Imams at local masjids.

      Unfortunately Non Muslims seem to think of Islam and Muslims as cults. You seem to think we’re robots programmed to accept the commands of mullahs. With the majority of Muslims, unfortunately so, Islam is a day to day thing, they don’t think much more about it. We don’t spend time listening to religious scholars or debating and discussing religion, we just use religion as a list of rules/guidelines which we try to live within.

      You’ll also be suprised to know that the vast majority of us are not intent on or suseptable to becoming suicide bombers, we do have minds of our own, we can think for ourselves.

      What ‘m getting at is that nobody really gives that much of a damn what Tahir Ul Qadri or anyone else has to say. Those who carry out scuicide bombings consider most Muslims to be “hypocrites” and legitimate targets anyway.

      The only thing that religious clerics can influence is opinion on moral support for these terrorists and their activities. Like all other societies Muslim society is morally corrupt. Just like some in the western world don’t care if a few million Iraqi’s die to keep Israel safe, some Muslims don’t care if Iraqi’s/Afghans die as collateral damage as long as as American, British forces and interests are destroyed.

      Guess what on both sides of the debate those people also form a minority. The rest of us are moraly corrupt but not evil like them. We are corrupt as we refuse to do anything to stop the wars, stop the killing, we just talk.

    2. Kismet Hardy — on 22nd January, 2010 at 11:45 am  

      Re: Guantanamo Bay. I read today that people from Haiti are being temporarily housed there only as long as they were in the US when the earthquake happened?!

      Translation please.

    3. sonia — on 22nd January, 2010 at 12:12 pm  

      aye Kismet Hardy - that is a truly bizarre statement indeed.

      Interesting effort on the part of the Ahmadiyyas - very kind of them considering how they’ve not been shown much love and acceptance by so many ‘mainstream’ muslims. i suppose this is a good opportunity to show themselves in good light and make all the other muslims feel guilty..!

    4. persephone — on 22nd January, 2010 at 12:55 pm  

      Guantanamo Bay – did anyone see that programme last week about the two released prisoners being ‘reunited’ with one of their American guards who visited them in the UK to apologise?

    5. godelian — on 22nd January, 2010 at 1:26 pm  

      yes i did…however i’m more interested in knowing the full story of what these lads from tipton were dpoing in afghanistan….the docudrama on their case fudged over this vital bit of information…

    6. persephone — on 22nd January, 2010 at 2:12 pm  


      “ But what were the pair doing in Afghanistan in 2001? They explain that, being in their late teens and early twenties at the time, they had made a naive, spontaneous decision to travel for free with an aid convoy weeks before a friend’s wedding, due to take place in Pakistan.

      Mr Ahmed admits they had a secret agenda for entering Afghanistan, but it wasn’t to join al-Qaeda. “Aid work was like probably 5% of it. Our main reason was just to go and sightsee really and smoke some dope”. “

      This is what their guard, Neely, said:

      “ Mr Neely recalls only the good publicity in the US media. “The news would always try to make Guantanamo into this great place,” he says, “like ‘they [prisoners] were treated so great’. No it wasn’t. You know here I was basically just putting innocent people in cages.”

      Full link

    7. damon — on 22nd January, 2010 at 3:59 pm  

      I’m not so sure why Guantanamo is still such a big deal. (Because the number inside is so small - and what to do with them is a difficult issue.)

      Good for the Ahmadi’s - but you might wonder why they’d really bother. (Is it just a PR exercise?)

      As for Hizbollah: what is their purpose these days?
      Just to act as an asset of the Iranian government?
      They’ve got no reason anymore for being a military threat to Israel.

      And platinum786, we don’t all think like you said about ”Non Muslims seem to think of Islam and Muslims as cults.”.

    8. Kismet Hardy — on 22nd January, 2010 at 4:23 pm  

      Random: I read a piece on Jack Staw’s son and they claimed his blog was the biggest political blog around. But his stories get an average of 5 comments. I have nothing more to add or better to do

    9. damon — on 23rd January, 2010 at 5:12 am  

      Just to put Guantanamo in perspective (post Bush):

      JOHOR BARU: An unemployed man paid a heavy price for stealing 11 cans of beer worth RM70 – he was jailed for five years.

      Zulhaidi Hamzah, 43, was accused of stealing four cans of Guiness Stout and seven cans of Tiger Beer from a mini market in Pasir Gudang on Jan 17.

    10. Kulvinder — on 23rd January, 2010 at 5:59 pm  

      Second random but incredibly interesting if true: Murdoch to sell times?

      caveat: this is not only just a rumour; this is just a twitter storm rumour.

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