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    Hollywood v ‘The Terrorists’


    by Leon
    17th August, 2006 at 10:48 pm    


    Oh dear, something like this makes me think these actors and Directors should not give up their day job. Hollywood has decided it’s time to rid the world of the terrorist scourge:

    Nicole Kidman and 83 Hollywood heavyweights are using the power of the press to speak out against terrorism. She has joined 84 other high-profile Hollywood stars, directors, studio bosses and media moguls, including News Corporation chairman Rupert Murdoch, has taken out a powerfully-worded full page advertisement in today’s Los Angeles Times newspaper.

    It specifically targets “terrorist organisations” such as Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Palestine. [via deficient brain]

    Well, there you go brilliant and insightful analysis of world events provided by experts in the field. It’s almost as if these darlings of the film industry felt they had to reverse the satire in Team America…


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    1. mirax — on 17th August, 2006 at 10:52 pm  

      No mention of the LTTE? Fuck Hollywood!

    2. Bayah — on 17th August, 2006 at 11:11 pm  

      What about the Iraqi War? What?! They havn’t spoken out against that? Are the lives of Israeli’s more to them than those of the Thousand of Iraqi Muslim who have died because AIPAC and the NEOCON’s war for oil.

      But then again please tell me something new.

    3. Bayah — on 17th August, 2006 at 11:30 pm  

      “We need to support democratic societies and stop terrorism at all costs.” Wait a minute, Hamas and Hezboallah have taken part in the democratic process. Has democracy failed for the people of the middle east?

      “If we do not succeed in stopping terrorism around the world, chaos will rule and innocent people will continue to die.”

      How about, freaking look at your own backyard!! Your bloody government supplied weapons of WMD to kill innocent people of Lebanon.

    4. Bikhair aka Taqiyyah — on 17th August, 2006 at 11:37 pm  

      Leon,

      I do wonder who on the right will tell this group of Hollywood elite to shut up and that they dont represent America?

    5. Don — on 17th August, 2006 at 11:39 pm  

      What about those who didn’t speak out? Name those pro-terror bastards. Is Ian Mckellan in there? Steve Buscemi? Kiera Knightly? The guy who played Frodo? The goof-off brother from the Mummy movies?

      If not, why not? Name and shame.

      Let’s have a loyalty oath.

    6. mirax — on 17th August, 2006 at 11:39 pm  

      What is the relative value of an american life to a european life to an israeli life to an arab life to an afghani life to a srilankan life to a darfurian life to an ugandan life to a congolese life? Do malawians and myanmese get a look in on the rates? What determines the rate? The price of oil, the cost of clean water? I am curious.

    7. Bayah — on 18th August, 2006 at 12:05 am  

      mirax Wonderfully put!

    8. Kismet Hardy — on 18th August, 2006 at 1:49 am  

      Ironic, seeing as it’s more than likely that many terrorists got their ideas, inspiration and fascination with big explosions and aeroplanes came from Hollywood blockbusters…

      I can see it now. Four terrorists attempt to blow themselves up. Naveen Andrews and Art Malik die instantly but their ringleaders, played by Alan Rickman and Dennis Hopper, escape are on the loose with a bottle of milk filled with a deadly gas they plan to use to wipe out New York.

      A pair of tough rookies, played by Colin Farrell and some black dude who dies, go chasing but Colin’s love for Scarlett Johansen gets him in trouble, especially seeing as her husband Sean Penn is in league with the terrorists.

      Just as the terrorists are about to spill the milk, governer Arnie Scwarzennegar comes along, smoking a big fat cigar and shoots the terrorists dead and sends Sean Penn to Guantanamo Bay.

      Scarlett and Colin kiss on the ground while Arnie walks away, with Guantanamo Bay exploding behind him. He winks to the camera and smiles: the hizbulla is hiztory

    9. Kismet Hardy — on 18th August, 2006 at 1:50 am  

      Ps. That three amigos picture is the happiest thing I’ve seen on PP. Good choice fella

    10. Kulvinder — on 18th August, 2006 at 2:48 am  

      Im guessing they’ll kick Nelson Mandela in the nuts everytime they see him.

      Mel Gibson wasn’t invited to sign eh? :D

    11. Kismet Hardy — on 18th August, 2006 at 3:43 am  

      “Mel Gibson wasn’t invited to sign eh?”

      funny!

    12. Kismet Hardy — on 18th August, 2006 at 5:45 am  

      Random. But I’m off to Beautiful Days festival in, ooh, an hour. Mum won’t talk to me so I’m telling you. I’ll bring you all back some crisps

    13. Vikrant — on 18th August, 2006 at 6:16 am  

      I’ll bring you all back some crisps

      Make sure they are Walker\’s…

      OTOH Hah one more fucking day and i stand to gain £220 from BA. They misplaced my baggage and havent been able to trace it yet! Tomorrow i\’ll be eligible to file a \”lost baggage claim\” £10 per kilo. Hah! £220 for 22 kilos of unclean Bart-Simpson print M&S underware ;)

      Back to the topic,

      What is the relative value of an american life to a european life to an israeli life to an arab life to an afghani life to a srilankan life to a darfurian life to an ugandan life to a congolese life?

      Hah, the self-righteousness is fucking annoying.

      Red Neck Lexicon

      Terrorists == those who plot to kill \”westerners\” (read whites) on \”unimaginable scale\”

      Separatist rebels == those who actually kill tons of wogs.

    14. Vikrant — on 18th August, 2006 at 6:26 am  

      A handy table:

      v == value of a life

      Israeli Lives == 10 x 10^∞ v

      North American Lives == 10 x 10^9 v

      Australian, West European Lives = 10 x 10^6 v

      Russian, East European Lives == 10 x 10^3 v

      Chinese Lives == 10 v

      Mexican,Brazilian,Indian lives == 10 x 10^-3 v

      Arab, Indonesian Lives == 10 x 10^-6 v

      Southern & Central American Lives == 10 x 10^-9 v

      African Lives == 10 x 10^-12 v

    15. Ravi Naik — on 18th August, 2006 at 9:48 am  

      I would disagree with your value-of-life table there, Vikrant. I think it’s directly proportional to how rich, developed and close to the west (our relative point of view) you are. So that puts western europe and north americans first. Then you have the second tiers like Japan, Israel, Singapore, Hong Kong. And then the third-world developing countries like South America, India and China. The the islamic countries. And finally, the African countries.

      And I loved the three amigos. It has many memorable moments and great original soundtracks.

    16. Katy Newton — on 18th August, 2006 at 9:54 am  

      Mel Gibson wasn’t invited to sign eh?

      What does that mean, Kulvinder?

    17. mirax — on 18th August, 2006 at 10:16 am  

      erm, Bayah, Vik and Ravi didn’t really get my point re post 6.

    18. leon — on 18th August, 2006 at 10:45 am  

      What does that mean, Kulvinder?

      Seems to me its a reference to Mels big love of God etc and rightwing outlook…

    19. Chairwoman — on 18th August, 2006 at 11:27 am  

      Leon - Let Kulvinder speak for himself.

    20. sonia — on 18th August, 2006 at 11:36 am  

      ah well. it sort of is funny because it highlights what conformists they are, at the Oscars 2003 not many people dared to say anything then because ‘oh we can’t be political’

      still hardly surprising. people tend to be so tribal about these things, what can one expect.

      of course its very funny that rupert murdoch should have to ‘take out an ad’ :-)

    21. sonia — on 18th August, 2006 at 11:39 am  

      mirax, often a lot of people don’t seem to get other people’s posts because it seems to be easier to make our own inferences as opposed to what the person actually said. of course it’s interesting to see how different people can have such different interpretations of like a couple of paragraphs..

      well it ain’t much surprise then that there’s so much hoo-ha about what the ‘religious’ texts must have said..

    22. Kulvinder — on 18th August, 2006 at 12:18 pm  

      What does that mean, Kulvinder?

      That the thought of mel gibson shouting

      ‘no wait, the jews did it…oh shi’

      whilst they were unveiling said declaration would have been quite amusing. It was an absurdist thought rather than a serious one. My serious comment was regarding Nelson Mandela. I don’t think this does anything worthwhile, although it does raise interesting questions on the ‘quest for democracy’ vs ‘the damning of terrorism’ especially where hamas is concerned.

    23. sonia — on 18th August, 2006 at 12:41 pm  

      Chairwoman..i’ve worked out why when i click on your name i get taken to the blog of a thirty-something copper in suburbia..

      you’re pointing your link to

      http://chairwomanofthebored/

      not a complete URL…

    24. Chairwoman — on 18th August, 2006 at 12:54 pm  

      Sonia, thank you very much. My blog is pretty uninteresting, I’ve only posted twice. If you want to take a look it’s http://www.chairofbored.blogspot.com.

      By the way, I subscribe to the 30 something suburban copper. As someone who has never been a great fan of the police, it has certainly given me a different perspective. I could do with fewer details of he and his wife’s struggles with IVF though.

    25. sonia — on 18th August, 2006 at 1:04 pm  

      cool chairwoman, will check you out. ive had a giggle at the coppers blog - i like reading policemen’s blogs -> they’re good fun!

    26. leon — on 18th August, 2006 at 1:05 pm  

      although it does raise interesting questions on the ‘quest for democracy’ vs ‘the damning of terrorism’ especially where hamas is concerned.

      Well quite but you don’t have to go that far from the US,; I wonder what this lot think about supporting Chavez given his popular mandate (I think I read somewhere once that he’s the most democratically elected leader in the world in terms of turn out, vote share and the sheer number of elections/referendums he’s one?) against Bush etc!?

      The serious point though is the selective nature of this statement. The timing is off too; fragile UN inspired ceasefire is not helped by this (assuming this news reaches beyond the blogosphere…). I guess that’s part of the point, to help with the propaganda offensive and prepare the ground for the coming November elections.

      There’s also a very interesting parallel to the letter sent by those MPs/Muslims orgs to this too…

    27. mirax — on 18th August, 2006 at 1:22 pm  

      About as interesting a parallel as PP putting scare quotes around the words terrorists when it pertains to Hamas and Hezzies but not extending the same ‘courtesy’ to the LTTE. How come?

    28. leon — on 18th August, 2006 at 1:24 pm  

      The quotes were from the original article.

    29. Kulvinder — on 18th August, 2006 at 1:31 pm  

      I wasn’t aware Chavez was considered a terrorist :confused:

      There’s also a very interesting parallel to the letter sent by those MPs/Muslims orgs to this too…

      They’re politicians, opportunistic by nature. This hollywood thing is just odd.

      btw france is sending 200 troops and leading the UN mission in Lebanon, im sure the 2000 Bangladeshi soilders are over the moon with enthusiasm.

      About as interesting a parallel as PP putting scare quotes around the words terrorists when it pertains to Hamas and Hezzies but not extending the same ‘courtesy’ to the LTTE. How come?

      A conspiracy of ignorance. I think you mean apostrophes, they’re usually included because the term is ambiguous. Ill be happy to include it whenever i mention LTTE; though in all honesty it’ll probably mean the opposite to what you think it does.

    30. leon — on 18th August, 2006 at 1:39 pm  

      I wasn’t aware Chavez was considered a terrorist :confused:

      They claim to want to support democracy, Chavez isn’t well liked by Bush gov, shouldn’t these actors/directors by their own logic defend Venezuala against the US gov!?

      I’m messing more than anything, I don’t take all this seriously for one moment (although it’s effect might be serious), hence the Three Amigos pic.;)

    31. mirax — on 18th August, 2006 at 1:56 pm  

      I think that my first post makes it clear that I am not going to put up with double standards as regards my lot of murderers, Leon! NO! I will not give them up as Sunny demands! No matter pathetic excuses like the one you just gave.

      Sneer all you like at hollywood, logic is not what defines the Hollywood stars’ action.

      You seem to have missed out on another newsworthy event, also not driven by logic.

      For the record, I’d like to sincerely thank the Iranians for taking the trouble to organise their holocaust-denial cartoon exhibition this week. It is good for them to learn that ‘western taboos’ can be broken without murder and mayhem. The offside is that one now begins the search for a new canard.

      Reuters article

    32. Jackie Brown — on 18th August, 2006 at 4:07 pm  

      ON THE OTHER HAND…. what of those Hollywood stars/International persona’s who have a bully pulpit and say nothing? I lost a lot of respect (after the fact) when I learned Micheal Jordan from S.C. was afraid it would hurt his business empire to say anything against a right wing neo con who was running in his old district- (this was pre his endorsement of Bill Bradley’s run— a long while ago). I for one thought it was brave of Mr. West to speak out as he did ala Katrina- you wish he would be consistent in promoting self lobe, but what can you expect. Notice Condi Rice DOB- 1950′s in Jim Crow South who never ever has a public opinion on that period of US history. All that to say people in Hollywood/Bollywood (the actress who doesn’t like black Africans) have opions just like everyone else. Because someone is handsome/attractive + rich and or dumb doesn’t mean they shouldn’t have the right to express their dumb ass thoughts.

    33. El Cid — on 18th August, 2006 at 9:37 pm  

      Bizarre… the arrogance of the rich and famous knows no boundaries.. but just as farcical was the reaction to Kulvinder’s Mel ref. Having put Kulvinder on the spot, maybe Chairwoman and Katy might like to explain what was irritating their furrowed brows

    34. Katy Newton — on 18th August, 2006 at 9:49 pm  

      I just wondered what he meant, El Cid. Why, what’s your problem?

    35. El Cid — on 18th August, 2006 at 9:49 pm  

      ha

    36. Katy Newton — on 18th August, 2006 at 9:51 pm  

      Um, okay.

    37. Katy — on 18th August, 2006 at 10:25 pm  

      Anyway, I don’t like this advertisement lark at all. I don’t see how it adds anything to any ongoing debate, it’s just a blatant attempt to manipulate film fans.

    38. Sunny — on 18th August, 2006 at 10:55 pm  

      I was a bit confused by Kulvinder’s original statement too. And still am. But I’m used to him shooting of sentences mid-thought.

      I like Vikrant’s handy table. Heh.

    39. Don — on 18th August, 2006 at 11:47 pm  

      What was puzzling about Kulvinder’s joke? Gibson shouted to the roof-tops that Jews (hence Israel) were responsible for all the wars in the world.

      The rest of Hollywood is declaring that Islamic Terrorists are the source of all wars.

      Mel would feel out of place. I thought it was a good joke; economical, tied-in two topical events, casually dropped in.

    40. Sunny — on 19th August, 2006 at 12:12 am  

      *penny drops*

    41. Nyrone — on 19th August, 2006 at 12:32 am  

      Sigh

      I’m sure they all have good intentions, fund bright-sparkly charities dedicated to promoting their celebrity brand name and regularly meet-up to discuss the ever-increasing global homogeny of our planet… but I still think they are looking at it like an over-simplified American-blockbuster Summer Action movie.

      Actually, I would like to see how Nicole Kidman feels having to scrape the remains of her vunerable children off the shop window when an American bomb that landed in her house destroys her whole life and family tree in a matter of seconds. The parameters of that letter are stupidly broad and those ‘celebs’ are crazy signing anything that’s been given the official seal of approval by Mr Murdoch.

    42. mirax — on 19th August, 2006 at 6:27 am  

      My hero for the week is Stephen Lewis, UN special envoy for AIDS. He lambasted the South African government for its ‘lunatic fringe’ approach to fighting the disease.

      You figure it out:

      800 dying a day- ‘traditional’ remedies like garlic, lemons and beetroots or anti-retroviral drugs? Gee, tough choice. Life is cheap and stupidity/callousness aint the sole preserve of hollywood.

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/5265432.stm

    43. mirax — on 19th August, 2006 at 6:30 am  

      I rather like how Bill Gates is spending his time.he was at the conference and “made the opening remarks, and spoke optimistically of the potential of male circumcision and microbicides to reduce levels of HIV infection”

    44. Chairwoman — on 19th August, 2006 at 7:25 am  

      El Cid - My brow was not furrowed. I couldn’t understand was why Leon answered for Kulvinder. My Mother insisted on answering on my behalf until the day she died at 86. Therefore I am irritated every time someone does it.

      I hope we’re all clear on this one now.

    45. El Cid — on 19th August, 2006 at 9:06 am  

      Thanks Don.
      I stand corrected… Chairwoman

    46. Tilling — on 19th August, 2006 at 6:19 pm  

      Wait a minute, Hamas and Hezboallah have taken part in the democratic process.

      That doesn’t mean they are democratic organisations, nor does it mean they aren’t terrorists, and nor does it mean they are not murderous, Jew-hating scumbags

    47. g — on 19th August, 2006 at 6:57 pm  

      in the same way that israel may be a democratic country but that doesn’t mean they aren’t muslim hating scumbags who purposely bomb civillans and UN offices?

    48. leon — on 19th August, 2006 at 8:42 pm  

      My brow was not furrowed. I couldn’t understand was why Leon answered for Kulvinder.

      Erm, I wasn’t answering for him (despite how it may have looked to you), I was simply giving my understanding of what, I thought, he meant/getting at. Evidently, I got the wrong end of the stick but hey ho, hardly the end of the world!;)

      Must admit found it a little curious that you two almost jumped on him for mentioning mental Mel…

      Anyway, not one person I’ve mentioned this story to has had a different reaction than thinking this was a cynical move by limelight grabbing celebs.

    49. Katy Newton — on 19th August, 2006 at 10:28 pm  

      I asked Kulvinder to explain the joke because I didn’t understand it. Same as you and Sunny didn’t. I’m not really sure which bit of the sentence “What does that mean, Kulvinder” you thought constituted jumping on him, but I’m sorry if he took it that way. I don’t think the Chairwoman said anything to Kulvinder at all, did she? I still don’t understand what the issue is here.

    50. Sunny — on 19th August, 2006 at 11:04 pm  

      I still don’t understand what the issue is here.

      As far as I can see, there’s no issue. Kulvinder’s comment was funny, in hindsight, but I didn’t get it either. The rest is all mixed-wires.

    51. leon — on 19th August, 2006 at 11:12 pm  

      you thought constituted jumping on him,

      I never said you two jumped on him, I said almost (therein lay the nuance). I’m not sure what issue there is here either…

    52. Don — on 19th August, 2006 at 11:28 pm  

      Oh, for God’s sake. The issue is that Katy is jewish and some people can’t help alluding to that. Or am I the only one who’s noticed?

    53. Katy Newton — on 19th August, 2006 at 11:34 pm  

      Entirely my misunderstanding, Leon, I thought you were in some way disapproving of my question to Kulvinder earlier in the thread. Clearly there is in fact no issue at all, and that can only be good.

    54. leon — on 20th August, 2006 at 12:23 am  

      I think Sunny and Katy are on the money on this one; Don, not sure what you mean. I wasn’t and don’t ever allude to her ethnicity, why would anyone else?

    55. mirax — on 20th August, 2006 at 4:11 am  

      >>Or am I the only one who’s noticed?

      Nope. I have and remarked on it too…

    56. Sid — on 20th August, 2006 at 11:40 am  

      yo, am I the only one who finds these weekend threads where PP regulars bicker amongst themselves about Katy’s Jewishness boring?

    57. Sid — on 20th August, 2006 at 11:45 am  

      oops sorry, this isn’t a weekend thread. carry on amongst yourselves.

    58. Katy Newton — on 20th August, 2006 at 12:06 pm  

      Oh dear. Look, I don’t know if the problem here is me being Jewish or not. I am aware that El Cid sees it as something that clouds my judgment, and there is not much that I can do about that, but I can’t see how he could think my Jewishness would be relevant to this thread.

      Mind you, I still can’t actually see what was particularly notable about my comment to Kulvinder in the first place and neither of the people who did are willing or able to explain it so it looks as if I never will.

      What I try to do when I read other people’s comments is look at what they have written, rather than what I think they are thinking, and I would really appreciate it if people would do the same for me. Thanks.

    59. leon — on 20th August, 2006 at 4:16 pm  

      *yawns*

      Anyway, these hollywood types are idiots aint they!?

    60. Chairwoman — on 20th August, 2006 at 4:21 pm  

      Leon - couldn’t agree more

    61. Kulvinder — on 20th August, 2006 at 5:03 pm  

      If i ever try standup the audience would come to blows :(

    62. Katy Newton — on 20th August, 2006 at 5:15 pm  

      Oh nooooooooooo, Kulvinder, it was funny! I am just a bit slow sometimes. :-(

    63. Chairwoman — on 20th August, 2006 at 5:42 pm  

      Isn’t that what every comedian wants? A bit of audience participation?

    64. Sunny — on 20th August, 2006 at 5:57 pm  

      Let’s beat up Kulvinder. He is the source of all problems.

    65. Kulvinder — on 20th August, 2006 at 7:25 pm  

      Let’s beat up Kulvinder. He is the source of all problems.

      As long as theres leather and handcuffs involved im game.

    66. Nusrat — on 20th August, 2006 at 8:41 pm  

      I am sure the left leaners amongst you aren’t so critical, when the hollywood types speak out against Bush and co.
      Indeed, their lack of geopolitical prowess is never doubted, if they speak in favor of the Islamo-Fascists.

      And, Btw,If noone has bought this to your attention - Hollywood has been very critical of the Iraq war. To wit, Sean Penn, Babs Streisand, George Clooney, etc, etc

    67. leon — on 20th August, 2006 at 8:51 pm  

      I’m just as cynical of the ‘anti’ war etc was hollywood luvvies as I am of the ‘pro’ war etc lot.

    68. Nusrat — on 20th August, 2006 at 9:53 pm  

      congratulations, leon
      that makes you one in a million….

    69. Kulvinder — on 21st August, 2006 at 4:54 pm  

      I am sure the left leaners amongst you aren’t so critical, when the hollywood types speak out against Bush and co.

      What makes you think that? If they say something idiotic i am hardly likely to side with them. Noone here is running to agree with Charlie Sheen.

      Those people comments showed a fairly naive and contradictory view of the world. I don’t see the harm in pointed out the flaws.

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