More racism at the Spectator


by Sunny
30th December, 2009 at 10:28 pm    

What is it about the writing at Spectator magazine that attracts such racist lunatics? Rod Liddle writes another bit of tripe which isn’t even worth fisking its so poor.
Here’s the first comment in response:

So another jiggaboo straps a bomb to his leg and trys to blow up an airplane but blows his leg off instead.

What brilliant company they keep at the Speccie. I’m told the site has moderators, but perhaps they were sleeping or something. Update: an explanation


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  1. D-Notice — on 30th December, 2009 at 10:31 pm  

    *Googles “jiggaboo”* ahh…

  2. marvin — on 30th December, 2009 at 11:10 pm  

    So what’s wrong with his article? Any points, at all?

    It’s easy to dismiss people’s style and opinions who are diametrically opposed to one’s as as simply ‘poor’.

    Attacking a racist comment from the public, smooth and totally hypocritical, I’m sure racist comments have not been allowed to fester on this site for more than a day before, oh no…

    To be fair who the hell has heard of jigaboo? If nobody has complained about the comment I don’t think you could accuse the moderator – if there is one working – of deliberately letting it slip – it being an obscure term.

  3. Yakoub — on 30th December, 2009 at 11:17 pm  

    Jigaboo is ‘obscure’ if you live in the UK, perhaps. I wonder how long my comment would say on The Spec if I posted “Ron Liddle is a dumb gura pudi.”

  4. Shatterface — on 30th December, 2009 at 11:33 pm  

    I’d heard the term because I did a study on slang.

    Still, the phoenetic similarity to the N-word together with the context should have alerted the editors to the fact it’s a racist epithet.

    (It’s actually derived from an African word meaning ‘servile’)

  5. Sunny — on 30th December, 2009 at 11:45 pm  

    So what’s wrong with his article? Any points, at all?

    You want me to waste time dissecting Rod Liddle? I have better things to do today thanks

  6. DisgustedOfTunbridgeWells — on 31st December, 2009 at 12:06 am  

    Liddle seems to have become the British Bill Kristol – a convenient twat to roll out whenever the media want something dodgy put into the public domain.

  7. Quantum_Singularity — on 31st December, 2009 at 12:17 am  

    I am a little surprised at this post. Racial/ethnic slurs are in the comment section of many news websites from the left to the right and of course YouTube. This occurs often because these comments are never looked at by the paper. What makes this particular news site so special?

  8. Kulvinder — on 31st December, 2009 at 12:20 am  

    So what’s wrong with his article? Any points, at all?

    I’m not really sure where to start when the premise seems to be ‘the terrorists are stupid as two or three of their plots didn’t work’.

  9. marvin — on 31st December, 2009 at 12:28 am  

    Liddle seems to have become the British Bill Kristol – a convenient twat to roll out whenever the media want something dodgy put into the public domain.

    Ah. “The Media”. Yes, I think you have a point there. When They want something dodgy, out there, They have their means!

    We all know who controls The Media after all…. Been hanging around at Socialist Unity at all lately? Or more of a Leninology man?

  10. marvin — on 31st December, 2009 at 12:36 am  

    A short, piss taky piece about twats who try to kill people, except when they do it ends in a complete farce. He’s laughing at wannabe, incompetent, mass murderers.

    Sounds like the basis for the new Chris Morris film Four Lions.

    Why the lefty fury? I think he’s conditioned you all like Pavlovs’ dog; to react when you see his name on screen, but except salivate, your blood pressure rises and righteous anger ensues!

  11. KJB — on 31st December, 2009 at 1:32 am  

    Marvin, I think Sunny’s conditioned you all like Pavlovs’ dog; to react when you see his name on screen, but except salivate, your blood pressure rises and righteous anger ensues!

    Sorry, Sunny, couldn’t resist. :-P

    Sounds like the basis for the new Chris Morris film Four Lions

    *hair rises and turns into snakes, as voice takes on a gravelly hiss* DO NOT defile the name of Chris Morris.

    Part of me does wonder if there’s some tiny, tragic part of Rod that wants to be ‘down’ with the ‘cool black kids’ (or did once) which, having been rejected, led to his being the kind of numpty he is.

  12. Sunny — on 31st December, 2009 at 1:49 am  

    Sorry, Sunny, couldn’t resist

    Heh, not at all. And you’re bang on. It’s quite amusing to see people like marvin get their backs up so quickly when you post even something so innocuous.

    Marvin is of course completely against any form of racism.

  13. DisgustedOfTunbridgeWells — on 31st December, 2009 at 5:18 am  

    Ah. “The Media”. Yes, I think you have a point there. When They want something dodgy, out there, They have their means!

    We all know who controls The Media after all…. Been hanging around at Socialist Unity at all lately? Or more of a Leninology man?

    Heheheh, you literally are a Pavlovian dog, your entire conversational repertoire is little more than a simple system of dog whistle responses; see a keyword, look it up, post response that adds absolutely nothing to the conversation.

    If you weren’t such a massive twat I’d be slightly apprehensive about poking a hole in your bizarre weltanschauung and telling you I’m a Conservative.

    C’est la vie.

  14. Albert. M. Bankment — on 31st December, 2009 at 9:27 am  

    So, if someone were to employ crass, insensitive or racist terminology in a comment on your blog, should you be required to wear a hair-shirt of shame simply because a buffoon with a laptop has found this page on the interweb? That’s as buttock-brained as blaming football managers for the fact that knuckle-dragging fans swear, get drunk and push people off pavements in support of ‘their’ team.

    Is Guido Fawkes responsible for the fact that his blog is infested with window-lickers with room-temperature IQs, who get their feeble jollies from swearing on-screen? Having got the publicity this year, he now has the traditional following of copycat idiots who devalue the impact of his campaigning.

    There’s enough of a case to be made against Rod Liddle without resorting to this utterly feeble attempt to impute guilt by association.

  15. Sarah AB — on 31st December, 2009 at 9:56 am  

    It’s much less offensive than some of his posts – the recent multicultural Britain one for example. I think knowing it is by Liddle slightly reinflects the way one reads it – ie anything which is potentially objectionable becomes heightened?

    Re jigaboo – I’ve just been reading Sinclair Lewis’s ‘Kingsblood Royal’ which is about US racial tensions in the 1940s and here the term used is ‘zigaboo’.

  16. cjcjc — on 31st December, 2009 at 10:26 am  

    And I thought you might have wanted to comment on this NYT piece, to which to the same idiot jiggaboo commenter has also responded.

    http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/5671701/the-nyt-the-detroit-bomber-was-radicalised-in-london.thtml

  17. Rumbold — on 31st December, 2009 at 11:41 am  

    Hmm, I think Marvin’s point is that it is a bit unfair to attack a blog for allowing unpleasant comments when (quite rightly) we do the same ourselves. I think highlighting comments in somewhere like the Mail is different, because of the ratings system, which demonstrate the popularity of certain comments.

  18. MaidMarian — on 31st December, 2009 at 1:28 pm  

    It’s just Liddle and the Spectator trying to whip up some attention and ramp up the web hits over the slow new year period.

    You really shouldn’t have indulged them.

  19. john b — on 31st December, 2009 at 1:54 pm  

    People saying “but there are unpleasant racist commentators *everywhere*” are missing the point – the Speccie pre-moderates comments, so anything that appears there has been specifically approved for publication.

    Is Guido Fawkes responsible for the fact that his blog is infested with window-lickers with room-temperature IQs, who get their feeble jollies from swearing on-screen?

    Yes, of course he is, because his blog is *designed especially for a target audience* of angry morons (also, “room-temperature IQs” only really works in the US – someone with an IQ between 15 and 25 wouldn’t even be capable of functioning as a Guido commentator…)

  20. marvin — on 31st December, 2009 at 2:54 pm  

    People saying “but there are unpleasant racist commentators *everywhere*” are missing the point – the Speccie pre-moderates comments, so anything that appears there has been specifically approved for publication.

    And of course, dodgy/racist comments have never slipped through the moderation net Comment is Free, or left up for weeks on the BBC site despite being flagged, have they?

  21. jookymundo — on 31st December, 2009 at 7:02 pm  

    nigger nigger nigger nigger

  22. Andy Gilmour — on 31st December, 2009 at 11:00 pm  

    Maybe we need a general New Year’s Resolution concerning desperate, flailing, whataboutery, hmmm?

    Just a thought…

  23. Edwin Greenwood — on 1st January, 2010 at 12:05 pm  

    … the Speccie pre-moderates comments, so anything that appears there has been specifically approved for publication.

    Is that actually the case? My understanding was that comments from unregistered commenters are premodded, whereas if you go to the trouble to register, your comment is posted immediately without moderator intervention.

    http://www.spectator.co.uk/comment/comment.php seems to imply this.

    Whelan is a frequent commenter at the Speccie and is probably registered. He doesn’t come across as the sort of person who would be happy waiting around for moderation.

    In any case, given that the Nigerian gentleman under discussion was intending to murder 280 innocent people, and would have succeeded were it not for his own incompetence and/or Mr Schuringa’s prompt intervention, the use of an abusive term like jigaboo seems comparatively restrained.

    Methinks Sunny is picking up on this as a hook to pursue his feud with the Chubby Irritant. Give it up, Sunny, Rod isn’t listening to you.

  24. KB Player — on 1st January, 2010 at 12:29 pm  

    I found Liddle’s article on the Knickerbomber rather entertaining, whatever the quality of the comments it attracted. There’s a lot of black humour in those totally incompetent warriors for god. This one had an engineering degree as well.

    Here’s a link to a funnier article on the grovelling idiocy of suicide bombers.

    http://flyingrodent.blogspot.com/2009_09_01_archive.html

    “And so to prison for the latest shower of slapstick suicide bombers, who at least managed to avoid setting themselves on fire and getting kicked in the balls by a baggage handler this time.

    No doubt that’ll be a great comfort to them as they spend the next several years staring at walls, mopping floors and discovering that You know, the Koran’s a right good read and proper holy and that, but maybe Razzle isn’t so bad after all.

    Like so many before them, this particular gaggle of twats played right to the rulebook by recording suicide videos and getting caught red-handed, before demonstrating their hardcore ideological commitment to their cause by pleading not guilty and trying to wriggle out of the charges. Not clear what religious edict it is that says Thou shalt throw thyself upon the mercy of the court like a gaggle of wailing, weepy wusses but no doubt some hook-handed loon will be able to think up a good excuse. “

  25. douglas clark — on 1st January, 2010 at 1:44 pm  

    KB Player,

    I’m not getting anything related out of your link to The Flying Rodent.

    Help!

    I’d like to read it in full.

  26. KB Player — on 1st January, 2010 at 2:33 pm  

    Scroll down to September 8 2009. Enjoy the pictures.

  27. douglas clark — on 1st January, 2010 at 2:51 pm  

    KB Player,

    Cheers. I am not entirely sure what I should make of that. If they looked a bit brighter, should I be more worried?

    I can appreciate the need to assume that Islamicists are incompetent tits. I’d actually like to think that that was true.

    But it isn’t.

    Although I enjoyed the mug shots, who wouldn’t?

    These bastards will learn capability, not through these idiots, but through finding more capable idiots.

  28. Old Pickler — on 1st January, 2010 at 3:42 pm  

    Which is more outrageous – that the j*******oo straps a bomb to his leg or that he gets called a j******oo?

    If someone sets out to commit mass murder they deserve to be called all the names in the world, including “racist” ones.

  29. KB Player — on 1st January, 2010 at 3:51 pm  

    Douglas @ 7

    Being inspired by Che Guevara is one thing. He was a cool looking dude, and a successful revolutionary.

    However, if the would be warriors for God look like dorks and act like idiots, they are presumably a bit less inspiring. (I don’t know this, I’m only guessing.)

    So I’m all for maximum ridicule.

  30. douglas clark — on 1st January, 2010 at 5:14 pm  

    KB Player @ 29,

    Why do you refer to me at 7? Quite apart from Quantum Singularity being the author of that piece?

    I may, or may not, agree with Quantum Singularity, though he or she is not me.

    It is becoming a joke around here to pretend that people are not who they say they are.

    I am me. I only post under my own given name.

    My tragic place on the universe is here:

    http://dougiesplace.blogspot.com/

    It may be pathetic, but it is what I think, sometimes.

  31. KB Player — on 1st January, 2010 at 5:23 pm  

    Douglas – The numbering on the posts has gone haywire. It counts from 0 to 9 then starts again. Evidently a Millennium plus One Decade bug. Douglas @ 2.51pm then.

  32. Don — on 1st January, 2010 at 5:35 pm  

    Once the numbering gets into two digits, the first digit is obscured. Needs a tweak.

    OP,

    Are you seiously suggesting that a suitable punishment for attemped mass murder is name-calling? I consider myself a liberal, but this is political correctness gone mad. At the very least he should attend some pretty rigorous workshops.

  33. Ravi Naik — on 1st January, 2010 at 7:12 pm  

    How can we best help them, these angry young Muslim imbeciles who want us all dead, but are too thick to do anything about it?

    Does this retard feel empowered for the fact we had a few fortunate instances where people didn’t die in acts of terrorism? Or does he not realise that suicide bombings are a daily occurrence in many parts of the World?

  34. douglas clark — on 1st January, 2010 at 9:10 pm  

    OK KB Player, @ 31.

    My point is merely that Flying Rodent is optimistic. We have no right to assume that Islamisists will continue to be utterly incompotent. That is just silly.

  35. Old Pickler — on 2nd January, 2010 at 4:37 am  

    Don – ho ho ho:-)

  36. MiriamBinder — on 2nd January, 2010 at 11:40 am  

    On the other hand, by letting ourselves get terrorised by the thought of terrorist activities, we are effectively doing the terrorist job for them.

    I have lived in the Middle East where terrorist activity was more or less expected as a daily matter of course. For the most part it was regarded as RTAs … you took reasonable precautions but you didn’t let it stop you from engaging in normal every day activities.

  37. Trofim — on 2nd January, 2010 at 2:45 pm  

    Incidentally, I recommend this play “What did I say?” on BBC4 (still 4 days to listen) which is clearly inspired by the excesses of the culture of being offended.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00pg5cx

  38. Old Pickler — on 3rd January, 2010 at 12:17 am  

    Incidentally, I recommend this play “What did I say?” on BBC4 (still 4 days to listen) which is clearly inspired by the excesses of the culture of being offended.

    Yes indeed, it was an excellent play.

  39. damon — on 3rd January, 2010 at 4:50 am  

    Just listened to that Raido 4 play. It was very funny. A bit far fetched though -(I hope).

  40. Trofim — on 3rd January, 2010 at 9:04 am  

    damon@39

    That’s the trouble, I don’t think it was that far fetched, apart from the example used. I must admit, I have got into sticky situations for using references to things with which my interlocutors were unfamiliar. But even I, a product of a secondary-modern school, am familiar with The Rape of the Sabine Women by Rubens.
    There is an article about growing self-censorship by Mark Lawson, who wrote the play, in the Guardian.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2009/nov/18/bbc-trust-censorship

  41. camilla — on 3rd January, 2010 at 3:22 pm  

    more racism at the Spectator – more terrorism from muslims! match nul? noo perhaps not

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