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George Galloway vs. Sky News


by Leon on 7th August, 2006 at 1:34 pm    

I’m not, by any stretch of the imagination, a fan of Mr Galloway but this exchange was amusing to say the least. Rarely has an interviewer been rebuked so effectively by an interviewee…

Update: It’s also on YouTube.



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  1. Sunny — on 7th August, 2006 at 2:12 pm  

    Rebuked? She got slaughtered.

  2. raz — on 7th August, 2006 at 2:16 pm  

    Like Leon, I’m not a Galloway supporter, but he really laid the smack down hard there.

  3. Leon — on 7th August, 2006 at 2:22 pm  

    Rebuked? She got slaughtered.

    Yep, did you notice how they turned the sound down when he started slating Murdoch? Cheeky…

  4. ali hussian — on 7th August, 2006 at 2:37 pm  

    I loved George Galloway and the way he rebuked the estbalishment media lies. I dont think sky executives will ever allow a lightweight to speak to Galloway. he has done untold damage to Murdoch’s corporation! what a treat!

  5. Leon — on 7th August, 2006 at 2:46 pm  

    I would love to see a live TV debate between Galloway and Christopher Hitchens about Lebanon! Be interesting to see how proponents of either would spin the outcome on their blogs…

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  7. ali hussian — on 7th August, 2006 at 2:56 pm  

    Hitchens debated with Galloway in the States last year and was jeered and rebuked by the audience all along because of his flimsy arguments. I am sure he will, being a neo-con anti-Muslim reactionary, face a similar fate in any other debate because he attemppts to defened the indefensible. what say?

  8. Vladimir — on 7th August, 2006 at 2:59 pm  

    It seems to me George just ate her for Breakfast.

    The Guy always makes a well argued valid point, only if he could cut out the confrontational style. I don’t think shouting the loudest always works.

    oh and another thing I don’t think the relationship between Rupert and all the entities of news corporation are so clear cut as he was implying.

  9. Simon Benjamin — on 7th August, 2006 at 3:11 pm  

    I never used to like George Galloway, but he’s growing on me. I think he is a top dog. Maybe he is a little polemic at times, but passionate nonetheless. And judging by the video clip, the brother must be have had lunch with Dylan Jones or something because he’s got a beard, a sharp suit and funky glasses… cool cat.

    I wouldn’t mind giving him four years in power.

  10. TheFriendlyInfidel — on 7th August, 2006 at 5:39 pm  

    I’d like to Double G vs “Mad Mel” myself.

    TFI

  11. Leon — on 7th August, 2006 at 5:41 pm  

    Why not a three way with Jeremy Paxman chairing?;)

  12. Fe'reeha — on 7th August, 2006 at 5:49 pm  

    It was a treat to watch it! Well done, Sunny!

  13. Geezer — on 7th August, 2006 at 5:51 pm  

    Galloway OWNED!

  14. Leon — on 7th August, 2006 at 5:51 pm  

    You Tube version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=249JaIaubVw

  15. Kismet Hardy — on 7th August, 2006 at 5:52 pm  

    “Why not a three way with Jeremy Paxman”

    And they call me the resident perv

  16. Moralz — on 7th August, 2006 at 6:45 pm  

    Galloway is an unmitigated cunt of the highest order.

  17. Nyrone — on 7th August, 2006 at 6:59 pm  

    …and so the love-hate relationship with George Galloway continues:)

    I really enjoyed this interview for I suspect the same reason that many others did: Galloway does in 8 minutes what takes other people about 8 hours, he is consistently strong and rebelious in his arguments and has the balls to speak his mind and use words that 99% of other MP’s simply wont take the risk in saying.

    I don’t always agree with his viewpoints, but I think he deserves all the credit in the world for his mind-bending display of brilliance at the US Senate. Thank God that someone has the courage to stand up to flat-out right-wing neo-cons and tell them the truth to their faces. That will go down in history along With Stephen Colbert’s Masterstroke of satire at the White House Dinner as one of the greatest piecies of political bravery ever committed on TV.

    It’s good to see him regaining some of the credibility he lost going on BB. He may be considered an opportunist, but there is simply nobody else in recent times that is able to do what he does in mainstream media and politics, and for that credit where credit’s due.

  18. TheFriendlyInfidel — on 7th August, 2006 at 7:16 pm  

    You can tune into GG’s tirades in Talksport very weekend. Sky news were very stupid to put that woman in front George, she didn’t stand a chance.

    Paxman, John Humphreys or Melanie Philips are the people to take on George.

    I’d admit that its nice to see him in Westminster.

    TFI

  19. Billy — on 7th August, 2006 at 7:21 pm  

    I don’t like George Galloway much, but I have to applaud him for that!

    Splendid.

  20. Katy Newton — on 7th August, 2006 at 7:38 pm  

    Maybe he is a little polemic at times, but passionate nonetheless.

    He may have the gift of the gab, but the man’s a fucking lunatic.

  21. Leon — on 7th August, 2006 at 7:45 pm  

    He may have the gift of the gab, but the man’s a fucking lunatic.

    I don’t think he is clinically insane…well no less than Blair or Bush!

  22. Simon Benjamin — on 7th August, 2006 at 7:53 pm  

    Katy,

    in what sense do you regard GG as a lunatic? Is it because of his brashness and argumentative nature, or is it because you have a particular disdain for him? Like I said, I never used to like the chap, but I think he is a genuine - if not flawed (but then again who isn’t in politics) - politician.

  23. Amir — on 7th August, 2006 at 8:01 pm  

    Galloway is an ’effing disgrace. I hate his stinking guts. He’s a loathsome, Stalinist, pro-Saddamite, ‘I don’t-care-about-Kurdish-genocide’ piece-of-shit. He’s a bully, a liar, and a facile crowd-pleasing toady.

    Would anyone like to show a video clip of Nick Griffin hammering a left-liberal on TV or radio? Which, I can assure you, he has done on several occasions… no, I didn’t think so.

    But, of course,… unprincipled left-wingers don’t mind a bit of banter and schadenfreudewhen it comes to a mentally-deranged Stalinist… just as long as he’s ‘rooting’ for our side.

    The left-wing modus operandi works a bit like this: ‘I don’t like Galloway… but’ or ‘Galloway’s a bit of a crank… but’. You know: the ‘but’ follows so swiftly and so abruptly that it is able to neutralise the man’s vile and villainous record.

    Pathetic…

  24. Katy Newton — on 7th August, 2006 at 8:03 pm  

    Simon, he’s a rabble rouser. He is not interested in any kind of debate, he is not interested in diplomatic resolution, he just winds people up and watches them go. He didn’t “rebuke” that interviewer, he just shouted her down. He didn’t slaughter her, he rode over her. That’s not winning an argument! Is that what you want politics to be like? Is that the sort of political debate you want?

    Oh, and if anyone seriously thinks that Galloway is interested in stopping the war - think again. He doesn’t want the war to stop, he just wants Hizbollah to win.

  25. Katy Newton — on 7th August, 2006 at 8:07 pm  

    Oh, yes, I forgot he was pro-Saddam and anti-Kurd. But he is also anti-Israel, and that’s all anyone cares about at the moment.

    He’s a filthy opportunist who’ll jump on the back of the cause he thinks will get him the most favourable attention. He’s the other side of Blair and Bush’s coin: a ranting megalomaniac who is utterly convinced that he is right and doesn’t give a hoot about anyone else’s opinion. I hope to God he never gets any serious power in this country.

  26. don — on 7th August, 2006 at 8:15 pm  

    From the first question he launched into a clearly prepared routine, the stale rhetorical devices, the over-bearing bullying tone, the arrogant self-righteousness.

    They were stupid to put a lightweight.

  27. anon — on 7th August, 2006 at 8:18 pm  

    Katy says

    Oh, and if anyone seriously thinks that Galloway is interested in stopping the war - think again. He doesn’t want the war to stop, he just wants Hizbollah to win.

    Blair and Bush don’t want the war to stop either, they want Israel to destroy Lebanon.

  28. yo habibi — on 7th August, 2006 at 8:22 pm  

    This is what Galloway had to say on Al-Jazeera in July 2005:

    “These poor Iraqis - ragged people, with their sandals, with their Kalashnikovs, with the lightest and most basic of weapons - are writing the names of their cities and towns in the stars, with 145 military operations every day, which has made the country ungovernable by the people who occupy it.”

    145 military operations a day

    This what he is talking about:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5250998.stm

    A suicide bomber has killed at least 10 people and wounded about 18 others at a funeral in the Iraqi city of Tikrit.

    Galloway is no friend of Arabs. Or anyone else bar himself.

  29. StrangelyPsychedelique / Kesara — on 7th August, 2006 at 8:29 pm  

    Ownage - the irony being that he wouldnt be i nthe position he is today had it not been for the Iraq war amoungst other things.

    One mans war is another mans profit and boy is Galloway milkin it!
    I love watching him though…rhetoric at its most powerful.

  30. Jackie Brown — on 7th August, 2006 at 8:32 pm  

    wow… that was dramatic. I did find myself cheering a bit for GG— but Amir I think your point about Nick Griffin was relevent.

  31. Katy Newton — on 7th August, 2006 at 8:42 pm  

    Anon - oh you are so clever. How can I stand against that sort of argument? When are we going to get past that sort of he-did-it-no-he-did-it rubbish?

    I support a ceasefire, and that is what Blair, Bush, Galloway and anyone with a brain should be doing.

  32. Katy Newton — on 7th August, 2006 at 8:44 pm  

    PS Anon: did you see the bit in my post where I said “Galloway is the other side of the Bush/Blair coin”?

    Did you understand that what I was saying was that they are all as bad as each other?

    Does anyone… ever… READ… the posts… that they are answering?

  33. Leon — on 7th August, 2006 at 8:59 pm  

    Does anyone… ever… READ… the posts… that they are answering?

    Yup.

  34. Sunny — on 7th August, 2006 at 8:59 pm  

    Would anyone like to show a video clip of Nick Griffin hammering a left-liberal on TV or radio? Which, I can assure you, he has done on several occasions… no, I didn’t think so.

    Errrmmm actually Nick Griffin usually lies on TV. When David Dimbleby asked him over the local elections if his party was racist he denied it. At least Galloway is open about his beliefs.

  35. yo habibi — on 7th August, 2006 at 9:08 pm  

    “At least Galloway is open about his beliefs” - true.

    All the more reason to shun him. He is a man of violence and wears it on his sleeve (what’s left of it).

  36. Leon — on 7th August, 2006 at 9:10 pm  

    He’s a useful idiot but to his credit he certainly opens up the mainstream political debate from the usual managerial concerns of Blair etc…

  37. Refresh — on 7th August, 2006 at 9:13 pm  

    Yes I would like to see more of him - tear down the lies and deceit.

    Don’t forget Paxman already messed up the last time he ‘congratulated’ him at the General Elections.

    Its not a case of how good the interviewer is - its how good your argument and how self-conscious you are that matters.

    No justice no peace - a powerful motivator in themselves if you only believe in them.

  38. Simon Benjamin — on 7th August, 2006 at 9:23 pm  

    Katy, you make a very convincing argument…

    Tch.

    But I think Leon sums it up succinctly:

    “… he certainly opens up the mainstream political debate…”

    And debate is good!!!

  39. yo habibi — on 7th August, 2006 at 9:23 pm  

    tear down the lies and deceit

    Are you kidding?

    “These poor Iraqis - ragged people, with their sandals, with their Kalashnikovs, with the lightest and most basic of weapons - are writing the names of their cities and towns in the stars, with 145 military operations every day, which has made the country ungovernable by the people who occupy it.”

    Pity the thousands upon thousands of Iraqi victims of Galloway’s heroes.

  40. StrangelyPsychedelique / Kesara — on 7th August, 2006 at 9:25 pm  

    I love watching him though…rhetoric at its most powerful.

    watched it again…

    …as mentioned above the rhetoric was a bit hacked.

    phoo3y.

  41. Refresh — on 7th August, 2006 at 9:31 pm  

    Yo Habibi - Not kidding. I am not sure if you are trying to deflect or decieve.

    Perhaps you are thankful that now, belatedly, Iraqi deaths from civil strife (or whatever else you would want to call it) would overtake direct killing by US and UK forces.

    Shock and Awe indeed.

  42. Amir — on 7th August, 2006 at 9:32 pm  

    Simon Benjamin [and other apologists]

    in what sense do you regard GG as a lunatic?

    *Straw man alert* Beep, beep. *Straw man alert* Beep beep.

    Where do I start? Erm… courting dictators, posing and posturing for a state-controlled media in front of a coerced audience, managing to overlook the existence of death squads and torturers, and praising the invasion and occupation of neighbouring states (Kuwait & East Germany) – this is the same George Galloway who claimed that the fall of the Soviet Union was the ‘the worst day of your life’. The man’s search for a tyrannical fatherland never ends. Mikhail Gorbachev let him down, Albania’s gone, the red army’s out of Afghanistan and Czechoslovakia. The hunt goes on!

    Thus, and thanks in part to our natural constituency of Trots and Islamists, the ‘anti-war’ movement has as its new star a man who is openly pro-war, but openly on the other side. A man who supported the previous oppressors of the region – the Soviet army in Afghanistan and Saddam Hussein in Iraq – who supports its current oppressors – Bashar Assad and his Lebanese proxies – and who still has time to endorse its potential future tyrants in the shape of the jihadists in Iraq and elsewhere.

    Oh yes, what was that Sunny…?

    Errrmmm actually Nick Griffin usually lies on TV. When David Dimbleby asked him over the local elections if his party was racist he denied it. At least Galloway is open about his beliefs.

    Oh yes, of course, silly me. GG never lies, does he? To hear him speak, you would think, would you not, that he was a pacifist, that he defines himself as anti-war. Now how can this be said, in good conscience, by someone who has just, standing by the side of the dictator of Syria, on the 30th of July, referred to the 154 heroic operations conducted in Iraq by the so-called ‘resistance,’ or the resistance that is run as we know by a senior bin Ladenist and by many of the former secret police of the Baathist regime? How can someone say, and say they’re anti-war and they care about casualties that they praise the ‘154 operations a day?’

    George Galloway is beyond contempt.

  43. yo habibi — on 7th August, 2006 at 9:36 pm  

    Refresh, please, never presume anyone celebrates death.

    Unless they say so.

    Galloway has. Read his words and look at the news.

  44. Sunny — on 7th August, 2006 at 9:36 pm  

    Here we go again, that word apologist. Can’t be asked Amir.

    All the more reason to shun him. He is a man of violence and wears it on his sleeve (what’s left of it).

    Yo Habibi - I agree. I don’t have much respect for Galloway. The only problem is that we have people on the other side like Blair still regurgitating really stupid rhetoric, and that provides useful ammunition for people like Galloway. Get rid of extremists and find the middle ground is what I prefer. But while one exists, so will his counterpart.

  45. Sid — on 7th August, 2006 at 9:42 pm  

    George Galloway is beyond contempt

    He sure is. But, I have to hand it to him, his performance on Sky was out-fucking-standing. What he said, when stood on its own merit, should be added to history books on school syllabi.

    Unfortunate for us that the only politician in the UK who can say those things happens to be the treachorous Mr Galloway.

  46. Amir — on 7th August, 2006 at 9:46 pm  

    Sunny,

    Here we go again, that word apologist. Can’t be asked Amir.

    You can’t ‘be asked’ because you can’t refute me. Simple as. Go ahead… Anyone is entitled to disagree with my views, just so long as they say ‘why’ and are able to beef-it-up with a few references or hyperlinks.

    I also find the word ‘apologist’ less patronising (and more apt) than your usual resort to ‘fuck’ and ‘fuck off’.

    Amir

  47. Refresh — on 7th August, 2006 at 9:48 pm  

    Yo Habibi - I think someone has related (on PP or CiF) the story where a guest at a do with Tony Blair present asked him how he slept at night with 100,000 Iraqis killed. And he is reputed to have said 50,000 actually.

    Now do you not think that people like Rumsfeld with Bush and Cheney on the one side and Blair, Blair and Blair on the other wouldn’t have made calculations on the number of civilians that would die and what the public would bear. Simultaneously calculating how many US soldiers they could afford to lose before there is a peep out of Mr & Mrs. Public Opinian?

    Return on investment (ROI) is what its called.

    Absolute hypocrisy of the worst kind. So lets not get hung up on George Galloway who saw clearly - as we all do and did - that should everything had been going to plan we would have had occupied 3 countries. Each with, shall we say a minimum of 100,000 civilians dead. I make that 300,000 total. Then would have come the civil wars.

    So forget your false logic for the sake of bringing down - one man.

  48. Amir — on 7th August, 2006 at 9:50 pm  

    Sid,

    But, I have to hand it to him, his performance on Sky was out-fucking-standing.

    If ‘out-fucking-standing’ translates as ‘tendentious, bully-boy tactics’, then I agree. His performance was just that.

  49. Sid — on 7th August, 2006 at 9:52 pm  

    Yes he was harangueist and demogogic too Amir.
    But he was also out-fucking-standing.

  50. yo habibi — on 7th August, 2006 at 9:54 pm  

    Get rid of extremists and find the middle ground is what I prefer.

    Too right, Sunny.

    Oh yes, Mr G is a good thespian.

    “Never trust thespians” is a useful rule in political life. I mean, look at Reagan.

  51. Leon — on 7th August, 2006 at 9:57 pm  

    Yes he was harangueist and demogogic too Amir.
    But he was also out-fucking-standing.

    I always find it very interesting that some people can’t hold two, apparently contrasting, thoughts about a person in their heads. It’s always, you have to be for or against etc…

  52. yo habibi — on 7th August, 2006 at 10:02 pm  

    So lets not get hung up on George Galloway

    Oh, I can assure you that I spend many more waking hours on Rumsfeld et Cie and Nasrallah than Mr. G, the spitting fool.

    But when he gathers a pro-Hezbollah mob in London he must be denounced. He is no friend of civilians anywhere, starting in violent Tikrit, his chosen paradise.

  53. Simon Benjamin — on 7th August, 2006 at 10:03 pm  

    Amir,

    for a man who clearly despises GG, you don’t half come across like him in your little diatribe. Have a think about how polemic and one sided you are, clearly influenced by your apparent loathing for GG, and watch the sky news interview again.

    De ja fucking vu.

  54. Katy Newton — on 7th August, 2006 at 10:04 pm  

    GG is a very good orator. But that’s like being good-looking: it’s pretty, so you want to like it, but it doesn’t say anything about the quality of what’s underneath.

    PS I do not think GG is pretty. I want to be on record as making that clear.

  55. Refresh — on 7th August, 2006 at 10:08 pm  

    Yo Habibi, not the fool you would claim. If only that interview had got wider public airing - you’d be shocked the support he’d get.

  56. yo habibi — on 7th August, 2006 at 10:11 pm  

    you’d be shocked the support he’d get

    Ha ha, yes, I would! He has had much more coverage than he deserves as an ideologue of senseless violence. He has not registered at any British polls that matter to the nation.

    As they say, Allah knows best.

  57. Refresh — on 7th August, 2006 at 10:12 pm  

    “but it doesn’t say anything about the quality of what’s underneath”

    Yes this is what I really want to hear about - so what about what he actually said.

    Seemed pretty relevant to me.

    Lets not fudge the issues he raises. The majority of people would agree with him.

  58. Refresh — on 7th August, 2006 at 10:13 pm  

    “As they say, Allah knows best.”

    The point you are trying to make with that statement?

  59. yo habibi — on 7th August, 2006 at 10:17 pm  

    That Galloway, despite endless media coverage and blogging, is not the voice of the British people, thank God.

  60. Sid — on 7th August, 2006 at 10:24 pm  

    yo habibi, do *you* think he’s good looking?

  61. Leon — on 7th August, 2006 at 10:24 pm  

    That Galloway, despite endless media coverage and blogging, is not the voice of the British people, thank God.

    Not as a whole but he must resonate with some otherwise he’d never have been an MP as long as he has….

  62. yo habibi — on 7th August, 2006 at 10:25 pm  

    Hi Sid, you’re so impertinent. Does pickling require perversion? :-)

  63. yo habibi — on 7th August, 2006 at 10:28 pm  

    he must resonate with some

    I would never argue with this. It’s true. He shouldn’t be the war’s shibboleth, though. The world has more cares than Dundee.

  64. Sid — on 7th August, 2006 at 10:31 pm  

    ‘more cares than dundee’?

    is that in idiom?

  65. Sid — on 7th August, 2006 at 10:35 pm  

    an idiom’, rather.

  66. anon — on 7th August, 2006 at 10:40 pm  

    Katy

    You say

    I support a ceasefire, and that is what Blair, Bush, Galloway and anyone with a brain should be doing.

    I do not disagree. But Bush and Blair don’t want a ceasefire. Hezbollah do. Who has the upper hand in this fiasco?

  67. Leon — on 7th August, 2006 at 10:43 pm  

    You know, I reckon I could post a thread about everyones favourite jam and it still would decend into pro/anti Lebanon/Israel/Hezbollah/George Galloways socks/Blair’s valium addiction/etc on here at the moment…

  68. Sunny — on 7th August, 2006 at 10:45 pm  

    Amir says: Oh yes, of course, silly me. GG never lies, does he?

    I have a suggestion Amir. Find something he has lied about and sue him. I’m sure you’ll get far. I’m sure your intellect can comprehend the difference between having contemptible views and supporting terrorists such as Hizbullah is very different to actually lying. Anyway, I’d rather engage with someone who isn’t trying to be GG for the other side.

    Yo habibi I mean, look at Reagan.

    Heh, I agree.

  69. Katy Newton — on 7th August, 2006 at 10:45 pm  

    No added sugar blackcurrant. Every time.

    I suppose that lunatic Galloway prefers apricot.

  70. Katy Newton — on 7th August, 2006 at 10:46 pm  

    Apricot: the jam of terror. Or freedom fighters. It all depends on your perspective :-)

  71. Sid — on 7th August, 2006 at 10:51 pm  

    I bought a jar of Lebanese fig jam from a shop in Manor Park the other day. Nice with crackers it was too.

  72. Sunny — on 7th August, 2006 at 10:51 pm  

    Haha! Lemon Curd dammit. It’s free from additives, Islamofascists and Zionazis!

  73. Katy Newton — on 7th August, 2006 at 10:59 pm  

    *ahem*

    I would like to announce that I made lemon curd the other day.

    That is how multitasky I am. Blogging with one hand, home-made lemon curd with the other.

  74. leon — on 7th August, 2006 at 11:01 pm  

    You made lemon curd?

    *wonders how nice he has to be to get a shipment sent to him*

    :D

  75. Sunny — on 7th August, 2006 at 11:02 pm  

    Well actually, your own blog says you’re too busy to write Ms Newton

    Can I come around for Lemon Curd? :|

  76. Katy Newton — on 7th August, 2006 at 11:03 pm  

    :-)

    Actually it is very easy. I could teach you how to make your own.

    Give a man lemon curd, you make him happy for a day. Teach a man to make lemon curd, you make him happy for life.

  77. Katy Newton — on 7th August, 2006 at 11:04 pm  

    I know, I really must put something on there.

    Someone think of something funny for me to post!

  78. leon — on 7th August, 2006 at 11:06 pm  

    Give a man lemon curd, you make him happy for a day. Teach a man to make lemon curd, you make him happy for life.

    Haha! What’s the recipe!?:D

  79. Katy Newton — on 7th August, 2006 at 11:17 pm  

    Lemon Curd

    Grated zest and juice of 4 large lemons
    4 large eggs
    350g golden caster sugar
    225g unsalted butter (room temperature, cut into small pieces)
    1 dessertspoon (2 teaspoons) of cornflour

    Whisk the eggs in a saucepan, add the rest of the ingredients, place over medium heat, and whisk for 7 mins until the mixture thickens. Lower heat to the lowest possible level and whisk for another minute. Remove from heat. Pour into sterilised jars whilst hot (or, if you’re me, pour into a bowl and dip white crusty bread into it).

    I want lemon curd now.

  80. Katy Newton — on 7th August, 2006 at 11:18 pm  

    And that’s Delia Smith, that is. Follow that recipe and it will all turn out beautifully.

  81. anon — on 7th August, 2006 at 11:19 pm  

    Sorry to see this blog descend into making lemon kurd…… is that like the Kurds in Northern Iraq?

  82. Kismet Hardy — on 7th August, 2006 at 11:26 pm  

    as the zion lion marley once said, kurd you be loved?

  83. Sid — on 7th August, 2006 at 11:27 pm  

    this blog is so resource-heavy. where else can you get real-time heated debate that has divided nations for decades and lemon curd recipe?

  84. anon — on 7th August, 2006 at 11:37 pm  

    Katy disappoints me with her recipes.

    Bye from this blog.

  85. Katy Newton — on 7th August, 2006 at 11:38 pm  

    Oh, Anon, I could spoil you with my chocolates though.

  86. Sid — on 7th August, 2006 at 11:39 pm  

    promise?

  87. Katy Newton — on 7th August, 2006 at 11:41 pm  

    *smiles enigmatically*

  88. leon — on 7th August, 2006 at 11:43 pm  

    this blog is so resource-heavy. where else can you get real-time heated debate that has divided nations for decades and lemon curd recipe?

    ROFL!!! It’s so true, we are the best!

  89. Katy Newton — on 7th August, 2006 at 11:46 pm  

    Leon, are you going to make some lemon curd?

    Kismet, I was sort of expecting a slightly naughtier comment from you on the lemon curd front. Not sure what. But something.

  90. leon — on 7th August, 2006 at 11:51 pm  

    Leon, are you going to make some lemon curd?

    Yep, gonna give it a go at the weekend.:)

  91. Katy Newton — on 7th August, 2006 at 11:55 pm  

    Oh fab! It’ll be a lemon curd making open thread this weekend.

  92. leon — on 7th August, 2006 at 11:59 pm  

    If you add jack daniels will it fuck it up?

  93. Katy Newton — on 8th August, 2006 at 12:04 am  

    Actually probably not, provided you don’t add too much. Couple of tablespoons maybe? Sounds interesting.

  94. Kismet Hardy — on 8th August, 2006 at 12:05 am  

    ‘Kismet, I was sort of expecting a slightly naughtier comment from you on the lemon curd front. Not sure what. But something.’

    The pressure. Can I rehash the old joke about Sherlock Holmes getting fruity with his sidekick in the kitchen and grunting:

    It’s lemon entry my dear watson…

    (I’ll get me coat)

  95. Kismet Hardy — on 8th August, 2006 at 12:12 am  

    What do you call a rockstar who dies from clot?
    -Curd Cobain

    What did the Cat say in response to shallowness of his second pot of condensed cream?
    – The first curd is the deepest

    What do Cameo do when their jockstraps get in a knot?
    – They… Curd Up

    What did the dyslexic call the supermodel’s husband, with hilarious consequences?
    – Simon LeMon

    (can I please be excused now?)

  96. Katy Newton — on 8th August, 2006 at 12:15 am  

    No, I demand more lemon curd puns.

  97. leon — on 8th August, 2006 at 12:15 am  

    (can I please be excused now?)

    Yes!:P

  98. Kismet Hardy — on 8th August, 2006 at 12:24 am  

    I’m listening to katy, not you leon you alpha male competitor, chiefly because she has breasts

    No. man boobs DO NOT count

    Katy my princess warrior, Give me all night and I’ll be your humble thieving, cheating, conniving, googling bangladeshi servant

  99. Kismet Hardy — on 8th August, 2006 at 12:26 am  

    If I made love to you Katy, I’ll be rough but I’ll try not to curd you

  100. leon — on 8th August, 2006 at 12:27 am  

    Hmmmmm can’t compete with a googling bangladeshi servant and don’t think my other half would be too happy if I tried too!

  101. Kismet Hardy — on 8th August, 2006 at 12:28 am  

    Here a few punchlines for jokes that will blatantly not be worth it:

    curd-er, she wrote

    the pen is mightier than the curd

    douglas curd

    a piece of dog curd

    demon curd

    I really am going back to my crack pipe now

  102. Kismet Hardy — on 8th August, 2006 at 12:31 am  

    leon. rub it in why don’t you. Ooh ooh kismet you virgin gay, I have an other half. Kick a cripple while he’s been mowed over by a ten ton truck why don’t you?

    The pleasure, the priveledge is thine

    Goodnight you lovely lovely distractions xX

  103. leon — on 8th August, 2006 at 12:34 am  

    Wha? Eh?! Erm…? Hmmmmm.

  104. Kismet Hardy — on 8th August, 2006 at 12:39 am  

    Ha ha just kidding. I’m here to confuse you all night

    (until sunny bans me again)

  105. leon — on 8th August, 2006 at 12:50 am  

    *remembers that he has the power of deletion on threads he posts*

    :D

  106. Amir — on 8th August, 2006 at 1:06 am  

    Sunny,

    (I) ‘I have a suggestion Amir. Find something he has lied about and sue him.’

    George Galloway (on an almost daily basis) refers to himself as anti-war / anti-imperialist / pro-peace / pro-Arab / pro-Iraqi. They are all lies. Lies, lies, lies.

    (II) ‘Anyway, I’d rather engage with someone who isn’t trying to be GG for the other side.’

    Boy, I didn’t see this coming [sarcasm]. You let loose a stinky ‘moral equivalence’ and float it around the forum like an old fart. Please, enlighten me… How – according to your sage-like centrality – am I trying to be like GG for the other side? By the ‘other side’, I take it you mean… democracy, secularism, pluralism & capitalism… everything that Gruesome George opposes? If this is true, then I accept your charge – unapologetically so. As do a vast majority of Iraq’s people, who oppose Saddam, who oppose Baathist brutality, and who oppose the ‘154 heroic operations’ conducted by the so-called ‘resistance.’ I – unlike GG – welcome the demise of Communism and the fall of the Soviet Union. I – unlike GG – have never supported Saddam Hussein or his serial-rapist son Uday Hussein. I – unlike GG – would like to see 10 million Cubans elect their own leader and shape their own destinies [ditto in the cases of Iraq and Afghanistan]. I – unlike GG – oppose the Syrian occupation of Lebanon and the assassination of Prime Minister Rafik Hariri. I – unlike GG – have never compared the Danish cartoons of Prophet Muhammad to the killing of innocent civilians on July 7. I – unlike GG – have never supported Slobodan Milosevic or the Soviet Union’s belligerent assault on Afghanistan or the attempted annexation of Kuwait to a ‘Greater Iraq’. I – unlike GG – have never supported Soviet-run proxies or Iranian proxies. And so on.

    If this makes me an extremist, then so be it! Ask yourself this: have I, or anyone else on this forum, ever accused you of being ‘similar’ to Nick Griffin when you denounce him just as I denounce George? A quite ridiculous charge, don’t you think?

    Leon…

    (III) ‘I always find it very interesting that some people can’t hold two, apparently contrasting, thoughts about a person in their heads. It’s always, you have to be for or against etc…’

    Being able to hold two ‘contrasting thoughts’ in one’s head at the same time – to hold them simultaneously (a violation of Aristotle’s principle of non-contradiction) – is a symptom of poor mental health. If you’ve ever read George Orwell’s 1984, you will come across a term called Doublethink. And it’s a very dangerous thing. In Orwell’s dystopian society, the widespread practice of doublethink has fostered a day-to-day atmosphere not so dissimilar to the mind of a schizophrenic. It leads to a wilful blindness of contradiction.

    If, however, you’re trying to make a point about ‘lack of nuance’, then it strikes me as somewhat odd that you (of all people) would level that charge against me when you yourself are neither fair nor balanced. You cut the Gordian Knot in a very extreme way. So stop trying to act like an ‘impartial adjudicator’. Because you aren’t!

    For me, George Galloway is just an ‘idiot’. ‘Useful’ doesn’t even come into the equation. I challenge anyone who thinks otherwise.

    Amir

  107. Amir — on 8th August, 2006 at 1:13 am  

    Oh yeah, Katy…

    I love lemon kurd! :-)

  108. leon — on 8th August, 2006 at 1:15 am  

    LOL! I knew you were going to come at me with Orwell, predictable and as always tedious…

  109. Amir — on 8th August, 2006 at 1:29 am  

    Leon,

    Leon,

    If you want me to cut-down on the Orwell then do yourself a favour and stop speaking like one his main characters… O’Brien.

    If more of you so-called ‘progressives’ read George Orwell, then maybe you’d stop making excuses for a Holocaust-denying dictator, an anti-Semitic proxy and a pro-war Stalinist who heads an anti-war organisation….

    Oh no, but wait… sorry… I forgot…

    Bush #1 Terrorist!!! Juan Cole For President!!

    Ha ha! ;-)

  110. Amir — on 8th August, 2006 at 1:31 am  

    Sorry, I put two ‘Leon’s’ at the beginning.

    Oh boy, Aristotle must be rolling in his grave!! :-)

  111. Amir — on 8th August, 2006 at 2:00 am  

    Leon - only joking. ;-)

    But if you ‘take me to school’ again, you gotta expect some spanking [Kismet Hardy style] in return.

    By the way, hello Kismet Hardy. :-) Give me a link to your blog… bruv!

  112. Kismet Hardy — on 8th August, 2006 at 2:28 am  

    Hey Amir, to get to my blog, you have to go to katy’s blog, find my comment, click on it and sometimes, it takes you there

    I swear that’s how I do it

    :(

  113. Kismet Hardy — on 8th August, 2006 at 2:33 am  

    “Oh boy, Aristotle must be rolling in his grave”

    Well he did say: The unfortunate smoke weed with people who will be kind to them; the prosperous smoke weed with people they can be kind to.

    Or something along those lines

  114. Katy Newton — on 8th August, 2006 at 7:45 am  

    It is http://kismethardy.blogspot.com

  115. Kismet Hardy — on 8th August, 2006 at 8:38 am  

    Yippee! What’s my password?

  116. Kismet Hardy — on 8th August, 2006 at 8:41 am  

    Okay I click on it, but where’s the bit that lets me make backgrounds and add text and make it look good? Katy you said you’d help me and you never met my mother either

  117. Francis Sedgemore — on 8th August, 2006 at 8:43 am  

    The (dis-)Honourable George Galloway MP is a prime example of the “Get your retaliation in first” style of rhetorician. Because that’s all he is: a rhetorician, whose tiresome tirades are devoid of content. His “debate” in New York with Christopher Hitchens is a case in point. That wasn’t a debate, but rather an extended duel, with most of the assembled US metro-leftists baying for Galloway.

    Galloway reminds me of Oswald Mosely, and Respect of Mosely’s British Union of Fascists. I wouldn’t compare Galloway with a cunt - as many justifiably indignant commentators have over the years - as to do so demeans a beautiful thing.

    I look forward to reading Comrade Galloway’s prison diaries. I suggest “My Struggle” as a suitable title.

  118. Kismet Hardy — on 8th August, 2006 at 8:52 am  

    Send him to the Galloways

  119. saurav — on 8th August, 2006 at 8:54 am  

    Sky news were very stupid to put that woman in front George, she didn’t stand a chance.

    I don’t know if it was calculated, but someone should have known she was going to be torn apart. I ended up feeling bad for her and thinking about male superiority as much as about Lebanon. I would rather attribute that to the producers than Galloway, but who knows?

    note: this is entirely separate from the contents of what he was talking about, which i’m far closer to him on than to the anchor.

  120. Kismet Hardy — on 8th August, 2006 at 9:17 am  

    Galloway in Pity

  121. Kismet Hardy — on 8th August, 2006 at 9:22 am  

    Up, up and Galloway

  122. Kismet Hardy — on 8th August, 2006 at 9:30 am  

    Galloway with the Fairies

    Home & Galloway

    Show me the Galloway

    The Galloway of a man

    Tha Ballad of Reading Galloway

    Galloway bladder

    Galloway Mr Tambourine Man

  123. Francis Sedgemore — on 8th August, 2006 at 10:00 am  

    Does the above “comment” from “George” not count as blog SPAM, similar to those sales pitches promising cures for erectile dysfuntion?

  124. Kismet Hardy — on 8th August, 2006 at 10:01 am  

    Eloquent stuff there Georgy boy

    I don’t get the pun though. Are ostriches devout muslims or are they generally jewish?

    The bit about islam sky rocketing is certainly true. About 140 a day launched into Israel isn’t it?

  125. sonia — on 8th August, 2006 at 10:03 am  

    kismet you’re so funny :-)

  126. Kismet Hardy — on 8th August, 2006 at 10:12 am  

    Sonia you’re so sexy (insert emoticon of dancing dildo here)

  127. Francis Sedgemore » Blog Archive » Oswald Mosley mkII — on 8th August, 2006 at 10:29 am  

    […] I am not altogether sure why I’m posting this, but since a number of folks over at the esteemed Pickled Politics blog have commented on the subject, and are backing the wrong horse, I thought that maybe I should say something. […]

  128. Leon — on 8th August, 2006 at 10:44 am  

    Amir, I’ve read Orwell but apart from being tedious as hell you’re misrepresenting (whether purposely or not I can’t tell). I never said two contradictory thoughts I said too contrasting thoughts. It’s a subtle difference I admit but an important one. I’m not talking about doublethink I’m talking about a nuanced and sophisticated view on events or a person. George Galloway is an idiot but a useful one for the reason I gave earlier. Holding those two thoughts simultaneously is easy…

  129. Refresh — on 8th August, 2006 at 10:48 am  

    Is anyone able to address the points he actually raises?

    Amir? Francis? Anyone?

    Francis, I don’t recall that he got such a hostile reaction in the US. I thought he did good.

  130. Francis Sedgemore — on 8th August, 2006 at 10:51 am  

    Sorry, Leon is right, and I am being a little unfair in describing some Picklers as “backing the wring horse”. I’ll amend my blog post.

  131. Francis Sedgemore — on 8th August, 2006 at 10:53 am  

    “wrong” horse, even.

  132. Leon — on 8th August, 2006 at 10:53 am  

    Kudos to Mr Sedgemore for that…:)

  133. Sid — on 8th August, 2006 at 10:57 am  

    ah, hence the old disco number:

    won’t you wring my bell, bell, bell
    wring my bellend

  134. Kismet Hardy — on 8th August, 2006 at 11:17 am  

    Let’s face it Leon. Who wants to really wax lyrical about how much they really, really like George Galloway?

  135. Tony — on 8th August, 2006 at 11:24 am  

    Amazing…I have only ever heard him speak the truth. I’m honestly curious to see why some people don’t like him and some examples and some real evidence.

    Look at the truth he just spoke….obviously he is going to be slandered and lied about all the time, because he has the guts to speak the truth

    I think that he is a hero and I have yet to see any real eveidence to the contrary.

    Bottom line: the truth speaks for itself and George Galloway destroyed Sky News and that silly presenter

  136. Kismet Hardy — on 8th August, 2006 at 11:26 am  

    I’m pleased for George. Proof that it isn’t just the pretty ones like chantelle and jade goody that go on to do greater things

  137. Bert Preast — on 8th August, 2006 at 11:29 am  

    Has anyone else begun to suspect Galloway is actually a muslim?

  138. Bert Preast — on 8th August, 2006 at 11:32 am  

    Tony: (and anyone else wanting proof that Galloway talks bollocks) Galloway refers to the “thousands of prisoners taken in 18 years of occupation that must be released”.

    Whereas the BBC seems to think it’s actually only three.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5211930.stm

  139. Bert Preast — on 8th August, 2006 at 11:36 am  

    He also says the “US has given Israel missiles with the range to target every country in the Arab and muslim world.”

    Have they? News to me, and news to the IDF too, I shouldn’t wonder.

  140. Bert Preast — on 8th August, 2006 at 11:38 am  

    Gets better. Apparently, the US have “given Israel hundreds of nuclear missiles”.

    Fuck off George, will you?

  141. Kismet Hardy — on 8th August, 2006 at 11:51 am  

    Yeah George. It’s probably more like a thousand

  142. Kismet Hardy — on 8th August, 2006 at 11:52 am  

    A million even

  143. Gus Abraham — on 8th August, 2006 at 12:00 pm  

    She got her arse skelped.

    He may be a chump but he has real huttzpah.

    In a world where Sky rules its good to see a politician who goes off message from the fawning mainstream shite spoken by the other UK parties.

    News International 0 Scottish Socialists 2
    (Sheridan in 72 mins, Galloway in 87)

  144. bananabrain — on 8th August, 2006 at 12:07 pm  

    no point my posting really, except to say: go amir.

    *claps loudly*

    predictable, perhaps, but i don’t think he’s being at all unreasonable.

    b’shalom

    bananabrain

  145. Leon — on 8th August, 2006 at 12:09 pm  

    Thinking over this it’s kinda odd that they allowed him a live interview (no doubt they’ll crucify him in edits later)…

  146. Sid — on 8th August, 2006 at 12:12 pm  

    nor mine, except to say: go kismet

    *claps sylhetily*

  147. Leon — on 8th August, 2006 at 12:14 pm  

    OI! If you lot are going to derail, again, at least talk about something important like Lemon Curd!:p

  148. Chairwoman — on 8th August, 2006 at 12:33 pm  

    G G is a tiny man in a shiny suit with a big voice and a Napolean complex. He is noisy and irrelevant. He is the original champagne socialist. Does Fidel still send him his Havanas?

  149. Leon — on 8th August, 2006 at 1:42 pm  

    No idea but I wouldn’t mind some of them winging their way to me!;)

  150. Kulvinder — on 8th August, 2006 at 4:24 pm  

    That was brilliant :)

  151. levski — on 9th August, 2006 at 2:04 am  

    Yes, Galloway is a bit of a legend in his own mind - yes, pro-warers irritated by the idiocy of their own pre-war claims and predications are equally irritated that their attempts to discredit Galloway have instead left them looking like mugs.

    And what is wrong with being ‘anti-Kurd’ anyway? For years people who know the region better than any of us warned us that Kurdish autonomy in any one of the four parts of ‘Kurdistan’ (Iraq, Iran, Syria, Turkey) would only be used to carry out terrorist attacks on the remaining three. Well, now they have autonomy in Iraq, and they have indeed been using it as a base to carry out terrorist attacks on almost a daily basis for the past three years on the other three. Ironic that the US, in fighting the war on terror, is protecting these terrorists for no other reason than the north is stable and they don’t want to upset the apple cart. How Talibanesque of them. Should the west carve out a country, Kurdistan, where women will not be sent to school, where honour killings are an accepted part of the justice system etc? Why does, for example, the EU demand that Turkey give Kurds autonomy but then complain when Kurds use that autonomy to do just those things? Why does the BBC have headlines like ‘Turkey: 60% support honour killings’ when the survey was conducted entirely in the Kurdish region. Why not tell the world the truth about these ‘victims’? Given all of this, do I support Kurds in their struggle to create yet another oppressive ME state? No.

  152. Amir — on 9th August, 2006 at 2:44 am  

    ‘And what is wrong with being ‘anti-Kurd’ anyway?’

    Too right! Gas em’ all, that’s what I say…

    Levski, if you like making excuses for mass murder… if you support tin-pot dictators and anti-American stratocats and unelected theocrats… if you hate Israel and Jewish people everywhere… if you adore suicide bombers and despise freedom of speech… then I recommend this blog…

    They call it Stalin’s Tomb

    Enjoy!

  153. levski — on 9th August, 2006 at 2:56 am  

    Clumsy attempt at creating a strawman…

    But moving on, Iraq was not gassing Kurds in 2002 - they had enjoyed years of autonomy under the protection of the northern no-fly zone prior to the invasion.

    The ACTUAL response to the gassing of the Kurds was, in 1984, restoration of diplomatic ties and, in 1988, continued support of the Saddam regime.

    Galloway has never been in a position of authority to effectively support anything - just words. In deeds, it was your precious American right that supported the killing of the Kurds. But I suggest you already know this and choose to ignore it.

  154. Leon — on 9th August, 2006 at 10:09 am  

    Galloway has never been in a position of authority to effectively support anything - just words. In deeds, it was your precious American right that supported the killing of the Kurds. But I suggest you already know this and choose to ignore it

    Well said.

  155. Refresh — on 9th August, 2006 at 12:32 pm  

    Jimmy Carter seems to be saying the same sort of thing on prisoners. Doesn’t quite go on to challenge Murdoch’s empire.

    SO who are the thousands of Lebanese hostages?

    http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/jimmy_carter/2006/08/jimmy_carter.html

    ps. Heard the good news about News of the World? Galloway, Sheridan and now the Police!

  156. Anon - middle east — on 9th August, 2006 at 12:36 pm  

    You know what? I don’t really care who said it, how they said it (an irrational situation is hard to discuss rationally - how many of you have been screaming at the tv??), why they said it and any so-called hidden agenda. The fact of the matter is it was said by someone. As a Brit living in the Middle East i am ashamed of my country and am finding it hard to look my Lebanese, Palestinian and Iraqi friends and colleagues in the eye (metaphorically speaking.)

  157. Nasser — on 9th August, 2006 at 1:23 pm  

    I love this man for his dedication to the plain truth and justice

  158. Kismet Hardy — on 9th August, 2006 at 1:36 pm  

    I just watched the whole thing sober. Last time was more interesting because it had a techno soundtrack and there were pterodactyls, but this time it was just plain, honest, simple and brilliant. Well done georgy

  159. Refresh — on 9th August, 2006 at 2:05 pm  

    Anon - middle east

    I sympathise with you, your colleagues and friends as does the vast majority of the UK population. Please let them know.

  160. richard roberts — on 9th August, 2006 at 4:34 pm  

    Your readers may wish to read a Galloway quote from last year about the alliance of “progressives” and Islam, and their common goals, which I have on my website at
    www.richardrobertsblog.com

  161. Leon — on 9th August, 2006 at 5:27 pm  

    Care to quote it here for those of us without the patience to wade through that very long article?

  162. aranos — on 10th August, 2006 at 11:40 am  

    George Galloway vs Sky News, great, Sky lost the argument due to the fact they are not impartial, simple as that. Agree or disagree with George facts are facts and human life should be valued, however the western media only values Israle, in doing so has left it open to Georges verbal attack. History dictates these conflicts and that region, to avoid guilt western society has a short memory, george is correct on that point. Unfortunetly he cant change anything, as nobody wants things to change on either side both of who commit evil in the name of good.

  163. Creeper — on 12th August, 2006 at 12:21 pm  

    For people that weren’t able to watch the video due to any reason and to make George’s words searchable I’ve made a text version of the interview at
    merelogic.blogspot.com/2006/08/george-galloways-interview-with-sky.html

  164. Lopakhin — on 13th August, 2006 at 5:35 pm  

    I’ve only just noticed this post. Just wanted to mention that when Mr Galloway states in the interview that Israel has thousands of Lebanese prisoners left over from the 1982-2000 occupation, he is talking nonsense.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5211930.stm

    Bert P: ‘Has anyone else begun to suspect Galloway is actually a muslim?’

    There was an interesting interview with him in an Algerian newspaper a few months ago, don’t know if you caught it. They asked him why he often uses language which sounds possibly Islamic - ‘peace be upon him’ when talking about prophets, for instance - and asked whether he’d secretly converted. He neither confirmed nor denied it.

    Kismet Hardy: ‘Yeah George. It’s probably more like a thousand.’

    In fact, if you look into the history of Israel’s nuclear programme, most of the help came from France, with a bit of material sold to them by a renegade British civil servant along the way.

  165. leon — on 13th August, 2006 at 9:05 pm  

    I doubt he’s ’secretly’ converted (why would he keep it secret when it would be, in his eyes, an electoral asset?), he’s made mention plenty of times of being a Catholic. Perhaps his Muslim like language is just opportunitism relating to his chosen constituency?

  166. rod — on 20th August, 2006 at 10:55 pm  

    Americans should listen closely we are being dooped by the neo-cons,who spoon feed us poison untrues about the rest of the world.There use be a time when we as americans could see through”wash job politics”,can someone tell me how did one group of people turn us upside down in less than 8 years we have gone from sugar to shit,thank your friendly local u.s government. p.s don’t be affraid to go under the surface of the information that you receive you might be surprised,the truth is still important.

  167. nora — on 25th August, 2006 at 1:17 am  

    I love all what Mr George said because it is the truth you like or not.I am sure if he talked good about the terrorist state Israel you would agree with him but because he defends the poor palestinians and lebaneese you say that.
    I am from Palestine and I am proud to be ,I lost 25 members of my family in one year in Gaza,why this Sky News did not care about me or about thousands of the palestinians who killed evey day?sure because we are arabs and we do not deserve to live.
    shame on you and on this cruel world where you live and God bless Mr George Galloway and any one believe in justice.

  168. Bilal Patel — on 28th August, 2006 at 11:05 pm  

    Why is it not possible to separate the man from his performance and arguments? Is it a rule that what a person says, always with reference to who he is?

    By any standards, George Galloway knocked the socks off that Sky reporter.

    He is good precisely because he is tough, tenacious and can give a bloody good beating to those people who are not used to being challenged. This is a good thing surely.

  169. Kobayashi Khan — on 3rd September, 2006 at 7:30 am  

    Wow, brutal stuff.

  170. Leon — on 5th September, 2006 at 10:23 am  

    Yup.

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