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by Katy on 5th August, 2006 at 5:20 pm    

And now that you have all finished reeling from my first ever overtly political post, I bring you the weekend open thread, which frankly I now desperately need.

I don’t know how people can do that sort of posting on a daily basis. I have broken out in a light sweat, which obviously only throws my muscle definition and razor-sharp bone structure into strong relief. And you have to post links and things, which is hopelessly complicated, and then check that they all work, and all that sort of malarkey. So I am very glad to be back on the weekend open thread where I belong, and I hope that I will never have to leave it again, because there is no place like home.

So what’s everyone got planned for the weekend? And has anyone done anything amusing over the last week? Tell me tell me tell me. I am playing croquet tomorrow, which I am ridiculously excited about. In Alice in Wonderland they used flamingoes as mallets, which appeals to my sense of the bizarre gratefully. Although I intend to insist that my flamingo dons protective headgear first…



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  1. El Cid — on 5th August, 2006 at 6:09 pm  

    I’m going down the pub with three mates — another London Spic and 2 Jamaicans. We’re gonna wet the baby’s head, as they say, and get mash’up to celebrate the birth of a certain little Olivia (No, not mine).
    We will probably moan about Israel, sneer about Blair’s growing Eriksson tendencies, have a lot of Arsenal v Spurs banter, and I will jokingly complain again about how no black people call their kids Leroy or Winston anymore, even though they’re great names, and instead plump for something made up like Shabazz or Gucci or even Olivia. I might get a few laughs/elbow digs out of that, then someone will point out that the Tour de France winner is now a Spaniard, while someone else will say, yeah, but with Gatlin gone, the world’s fastest man is a Jamaican… and so on, and so on… Should be a good night — old-school style.

  2. leon — on 5th August, 2006 at 6:13 pm  

    Sounds very cool EC! And yeah I wonder about the name thing too (Shasharna being one I heard that cracks me up), where did all these odd new fangled names come from?!

    Me, I’m relaxing tonight then tomorrow off to see my cuz who’s down from oop north with his other half…:)

  3. Refresh — on 5th August, 2006 at 6:18 pm  

    And I’m off to meet Chairwoman at Speakers Corner.

    Katy, can you please sort out those tyres?

  4. El Cid — on 5th August, 2006 at 6:18 pm  

    There’s a girl at my son’s school called L’Oreal.. no word of a lie!

  5. leon — on 5th August, 2006 at 6:21 pm  

    You’re fucking kidding me?! The worlds gone mad for sure!

  6. Sid — on 5th August, 2006 at 6:28 pm  

    Black guys have the best names, I agree.

  7. funkg — on 5th August, 2006 at 7:32 pm  

    my father named me Guillaume Jean Marie my mum wanted to name me randy-sean, but glad i did not end up with a name like delroy (no offence)
    right now i am sat in a riad in marrachech, my wife of a week is having a siesta and im mucking about online; thursday i will be in sussex and next monday back at work in brick lane…

  8. Katy — on 5th August, 2006 at 7:36 pm  

    Ages ago a friend of mine, who was black, and I were walking down the street when suddenly a load of white boys across the street started shouting “Oi, Leroy!”, hurling foul-mouthed abuse at him, and making rude and obscene gestures at him.

    Being no shrinking violet, I had a go at them for being racist, at which point it turned out that they were good friends of his and Leroy was his middle name.

    Sometimes political correctness really can go that bit too far. If you’re me.

  9. raz — on 5th August, 2006 at 7:48 pm  

    How cool is this?!

    http://www.rense.com/general72/size.htm

  10. don — on 5th August, 2006 at 7:57 pm  

    L’Oreal?

    So in a few years we’ll hear his girlfriend pleading, ‘Leave it, L’Oreal, he ain’t worf it.’

  11. funkg — on 5th August, 2006 at 7:58 pm  

    i cant fathum why but those pics look kind of scary…

  12. funkg — on 5th August, 2006 at 8:02 pm  

    question? notting hill carnival cool, or not cool? i live in the grove and im such a stick in the mud would much rather set my dj decks up and play to visiting guest all day. my wife thinks im boring for doing this

  13. leon — on 5th August, 2006 at 8:05 pm  

    notting hill carnival cool, or not cool?

    It’s not as good as it used to be but it’s still cool.

  14. don — on 5th August, 2006 at 8:07 pm  

    Just back from cycling to a country pub with an old mate, couple of pints, cumberland sausage and chips by the river.

    Next week to the Lakes, my daughter’s idea; last family holiday before Uni.

  15. funkg — on 5th August, 2006 at 8:23 pm  

    maybe its an age thing with carnival, its no longer just a ‘black thing’ as i reckon the afro-carribean is admitedly a decling demographic in the uk;
    i want to hook up youtube to my system, play some live eighties soul and funk vids. youtube for me is one of the best things about the internet along with pickledpolitics!

  16. leon — on 5th August, 2006 at 8:30 pm  

    funkg, I hear what you’re saying the main thing I wasn’t impressed about last year was the way the floats were split up, it disjointed the flow of the music and spectacle.

    It also doesn’t help that you have Ken Livingstone is trying to move it and setting up an alternative event in Hyde Park (or where ever it’s held)…

  17. Sunny — on 5th August, 2006 at 10:37 pm  

    The Notting Hill Carnival is still miles ahead of Fruitstock, where I was today. The dance DJ was terrible I tell ya. Saw Arrested Development on the main stage at 8 and they didn’t play any of their classics! No Everyday People :(

    Anyway, you guys think you have it bad. British Punjabis have it the worst. Not only are many (actually most) of the names unisex, they are so bloody imaginative its beyond belief. 90% of British born Punjabis have their named ending in ‘deep, ‘preet, ‘jit, ‘inder. Or their name is Raj. When our parents migrated over, they left their imagination for names behind.

  18. leon — on 5th August, 2006 at 10:48 pm  

    Arrested Dev are still about?! I thought they split up years ago…

  19. Sunny — on 5th August, 2006 at 11:26 pm  

    Leon - Apparently they are mate! Or maybe this was the split up band…

    youtube for me is one of the best things about the internet along with pickledpolitics!

    funkg, very kind of you.

  20. TheFriendlyInfidel — on 5th August, 2006 at 11:38 pm  

    In my never ending mission to understand other peoples point of view and understand how beliefs are built that enable them to act out their lives, I’ve spent the weekend at a Landmark event.

    So far it has been deathly boring, slightly sinster, utterly non-sensical, psudeo religious, hippocritical clap trap.

    It has made me quite cross, especially when they have been using hypnosis like techniques to hammer points in.

    That said the all the attendees have been very nice and its mean interesting watching people come to terms with abstract concepts like multiple views on the same squence of events.

    Although what gets me is how people get through life without an understanding of words such as “subjective”.

    I’m going to do a blog write up on what I saw and heard there. I’ll include today annocote about how one of the leaders tried to me that I there were no concepts such as right and wrong, nearly made him cry.

    Happy clappy la la la,

    TFI

  21. Katy — on 5th August, 2006 at 11:49 pm  

    Whenever someone tells me that there is no such thing as right or wrong, I steal something from them or hit them. Then I ask them what they’re complaining about.

  22. Sunny — on 5th August, 2006 at 11:53 pm  

    A mate of mine went to that Landmark thing too, though he quite liked it, some of the description of events did seem quasi-religious.

    Saying that, I think we have our own moral compass on what is right and wrong. All fine and great, but I do believe its important to understand two opposing arguments in your head and then decide which one you like and why.

    I also think this. Sometimes people on opposite sides agree on what is right and wrong, but because of the way they interpret events they end up on other sides.

  23. TheFriendlyInfidel — on 5th August, 2006 at 11:55 pm  

    Interesting Katy, I may use that tomorrow.

    I’m not sure if I ought get up and destroy the trainer or not. People seem to get a lot out of it and most people are to scared to take on a skilled orator in a public forum.

    Of course once you have done stand up comedy a few times, large angry crowds don’t bother you so much …

    heh heh heh

    TFI

  24. TheFriendlyInfidel — on 6th August, 2006 at 12:01 am  

    Sunny, that’s why I love this site, so many viewpoints, so many of them valid and balanced, so many alien and irrational.

    I thought that The Now Show was fabulous this week, it had the line “The Goverment has announced that it will not be teaching right and wrong in schools any more. Yet in the same week that they told teenagers cheating in their exam papers was wrong.”

    Brillant.

    I firmly believe that if we cannot agree on some basic principles of right and wrong we are going to go to hell in a hand basket.

    TFI

  25. sunray — on 6th August, 2006 at 12:16 am  

    ‘So what’s everyone got planned for the weekend?’
    Kathy

    First there was Morari Bapu then we had Swami Ramdevji, Now we got Jai Maadi,
    tommorrow pulling the Rath through Leicester Hare Krishna! :)
    Come join us. 12.30 Town Centre.

  26. Sunny — on 6th August, 2006 at 12:21 am  

    I firmly believe that if we cannot agree on some basic principles of right and wrong we are going to go to hell in a hand basket.

    Heh, I agree TFI but let’s start with this one: “Killing people is a bad idea”.

  27. TheFriendlyInfidel — on 6th August, 2006 at 1:00 am  

    Funnily enough that how I nearly made one of the “leaders” cry uncle. He pulled this:

    “You seem to have a very clear idea of what is right and wrong”
    “Yes, that is because I am the absolute authority on the reality I percieve throught my own mind”
    “But don’t you see that there is no right and wrong”
    “Yes there is. Without it our societies couldn’t work”
    “But really there is only what works, what doesn’t work”
    “What you have done there is stretch a concept to cover right and wrong, its not the same thing. Take killing people, that is wrong”
    “But is it?”
    “Yes it is. I would be shocked if you put forward a proposition that stated that killing people isn’t wrong, are you doing arguing this?”

    Unbelievable.

    Other things, I forgot to pay for my coffees and needed to go back, I told a “leader” and he said “Don’t worry about it, go back into the room”.

    That’s what happens if you buy into “what works, what doesn’t work”, you can steal.

    The whole thing is very disengenous, or in their language “inauthentic”.

    … and of course I went back and paid for my coffee.

    TFI

  28. funkg — on 6th August, 2006 at 11:50 am  

    hey sorry about me banging on about being in marrakech right now, but i was sitting out in a cafe having a coffee in the square and it struck me that given the choice most people police theirselves. i think we all have a responsibilty to lookout for each other,we should not let the ‘tyranny’ of governments, teenage hoodlums and health and safety laws constantly chip away at our fundemental right to live alongside our neighbours. i voted for ken livingstone, but i hate the way london and the uk as whole has become so legislated.

  29. El Cid — on 6th August, 2006 at 12:40 pm  

    funkg,
    seems we have similar tastes in music!
    heartily recommend unknown fm to you on a sunday morning. i think it’s master j’s show on 90.2 fm or at www.unknownfm.com…. what did i hear this morning… freak for you by royalle delite. Take you back?
    Anyway, off to see Cars with all 3 of my kids later. Bit worried about my almost-three year old.. will he stay sitting down? will i get to see the movie?

  30. Chairwoman — on 6th August, 2006 at 1:43 pm  

    El Cid - No, he won’t. No, you won’t.

  31. funkg — on 6th August, 2006 at 1:52 pm  

    i remember that royalle delite tune el cid, ive just checked out that unknownfm site, some nice house music on there. ive been listening to lots of berber and gnuoan music somthing like that.
    checkout wefunk.com its available on itunes and on its main site, they play excellent funk and hip hop.

  32. Sunny — on 6th August, 2006 at 2:36 pm  

    “Yes it is. I would be shocked if you put forward a proposition that stated that killing people isn’t wrong, are you doing arguing this?”

    TFI So you don’t think its right to kill in self-defense?

  33. Rakhee — on 6th August, 2006 at 2:57 pm  

    It was only going to be a quiet night in, until I made the fatal mistake of picking up my phone and agreeing to go for a drink.

    One hour later and I’m in Soho.
    5 hours later, I think I’m a salsa queen on the dancefloor *cringe*
    10 hours later, I roll in.
    15 hours later and I have a hangover from hell
    Right now, Rakhee is looking rather green.

    Please help, anyone have any quick fix cures?

  34. Chairwoman — on 6th August, 2006 at 3:16 pm  

    Tomato juice with splash of Tabasco or similar and Worcester sauce. Effective and delicious.

  35. Amir — on 6th August, 2006 at 3:50 pm  

    Rakhee,

    Do you what know the best cure for a hangover is? ;-)

    …my services are available if you need them.

    Here’s my profile

  36. don — on 6th August, 2006 at 3:55 pm  

    Rakhee,

    Think of this as the perfect time to ask those important questions; will I ever fulfil my potential? have I let the opportunity pass? am I a disappointment to my family? are my friend’s secretly laughing at me? are my pores really bigger than everyone else’s? is my cat plotting against me?

    Alternatively, (if feasible) a turkish bath helps.

  37. Amir — on 6th August, 2006 at 4:00 pm  

    Rakhee,

    How you doin?

    Amir

  38. Amir — on 6th August, 2006 at 4:03 pm  

    Chairwoman,

    Tomato juice with splash of Tabasco or similar and Worcester sauce. Effective and delicious.

    I prefer: Toilet Duck with a splash of Jack Daniels or similar and Mayonnaise. Effective and deadly.

  39. Amir — on 6th August, 2006 at 4:16 pm  

    Sunny,

    I swear to God,… there’s a picture of you on the Internet with a really fit girl. :-)

    Nice one! :-)

  40. Vikrant — on 6th August, 2006 at 4:43 pm  

    Whodout me mates Rohin ‘n raz open threads suck.

  41. Vikrant — on 6th August, 2006 at 4:48 pm  

    Ouch that was my PP typo #7857643839

    Whidout me mates Rohin ‘n raz open threads suck.

    Neeeways me GCSE results will be out soon…
    This time next week i’ll be back home…. ooohhhh…. Eeengland i miss you… i miss your cigarettes even more

  42. sonia — on 6th August, 2006 at 5:11 pm  

    just saw the peace cyclists ride past my window on their way to jerusalem! ( goodness - wish ‘em luck) got some photos - rather blurry ( my window’s very dirty!) I met a representative from the JfJfP ( Jews for justice for palestinians) back the Brick Lane Mela who was fundraising for this - and i remember thinking gosh! that sounds like quite the bike ride..

  43. Rakhee — on 6th August, 2006 at 5:21 pm  

    Chairwoman, thank you. It make my stomach turn thinking about it but I’ll give it a go.

    Don:
    - Will I ever fulfil my potential? I bloomin well hope so!
    - Have I let the opportunity pass? Not that I know of
    - Am I a disappointment to my family? Never, they lurve me unconditionally (a v rare thing nowadays)
    - Are my friend’s secretly laughing at me? No, they laugh at me to my face :(
    - Are my pores really bigger than everyone else’s? Even if they were, I wouldn’t admit it here
    - Is my cat plotting against me? I don’t have one. I love them but the thought of a rat-killing feline pottering around in my home gives me the heebie jeebies. Eeew.
    - Alternatively, (if feasible) a turkish bath helps.
    Fabulous, thank you!

    Amir, thank you for making me laugh and yes, I agree, it is the best cure for any illness. ;)

  44. Rohin — on 6th August, 2006 at 6:25 pm  

    Rakhee, I feel your pain. My post birthday-party hangover is finally clearing. Some night. I’ve been clearing up for a few hours now!

  45. Rohin — on 6th August, 2006 at 6:26 pm  

    Oh and thanks Vik - I apologise for my absence! Where’s that raz?

  46. El Cid — on 6th August, 2006 at 6:55 pm  

    Yes he did, Yes I did.
    A bit long though, Cars, at 121 minutes.
    It was OK — 3 out of 5. About Vik’s level ;)
    Anyway, funkg, that wefunk link — looks interesting but I couldn’t find something to tune into and check out. What am I doing wrong?
    Also, I came across some Senegalese Rap the other day. Sounds pretentious, bit like Slovakian Cinema, but it’s really rather good. Some geezer called Didier Awadi. Anyone know where I can download/buy this (can’t find it anywhere):
    http://www.studiosankara.com/sunugaal.html

  47. sonia — on 6th August, 2006 at 7:08 pm  

    Vikrant - good luck with the GCSE results. :-)

  48. Rakhee — on 6th August, 2006 at 7:26 pm  

    Well happy birthday to you Rohin! Sounds like you celebrated in style.

    Am thankfully feeling better now too and even managed to eat some of my mum’s lovely food *yum*.

    Something tells me I’ll sleep well tonight….

  49. Vikrant — on 6th August, 2006 at 7:40 pm  

    Happie B’Day Rohinda… though i hate to admit it i’m starting to positively envy/like Bongs…

    Enjoying my last days in India…. chilling out here listening to the Zeest. They are probably baddest of all desi bands…

  50. Katy Newton — on 6th August, 2006 at 7:42 pm  

    I am back from my croquet game!

    It is a scary game involving very hard, heavy croquet balls and big wooden hammers which you use to hit them through hoops, and also at other people if you are annoyed with them a big sort of stick thing in the middle.

    No flamingoes were harmed in the course of the croquet game. We used stunt flamingoes.

  51. Katy Newton — on 6th August, 2006 at 7:43 pm  

    My strikethrough didn’t work and now that post makes no sense :-(

  52. El Cid — on 6th August, 2006 at 7:44 pm  

    How rude of me — happy birthday Rohin. So what are we looking at — 30?

  53. Vikrant — on 6th August, 2006 at 7:51 pm  

    been reading Suketu Mehta’s “Maximum City”… to put it mildly i’m shocked at this brazenly racist anti-Maharashtrian diatribe…. and its supposed to be the definitive book on Bombay and its people.

  54. Katy Newton — on 6th August, 2006 at 7:52 pm  

    Oh goodness, I am rude too. Happy birthday, Rohin!

  55. Rakhee — on 6th August, 2006 at 7:57 pm  

    Katy, poor you. Been a bit of a rollercoaster weekend huh? For what it’s worth, the other thread has been intriguing and I for one have learnt a hell of a lot. Kick back and relax for a while. It’s STILL SUNDAY! YAY!

    As for your game - Hard balls? Big wood hammers? Hoops? Sort of stick? AND Flamingoes?

    Some may say that sounds like a lot of fun *grins cheekily*

  56. Katy Newton — on 6th August, 2006 at 8:08 pm  

    Rakhee - thanks :-)

    I must stop crouching vulture-like over the computer and go out and live like the crazy twentysomething* my mother thinks I should be…

    *a loose term which can of course legitimately be applied to people in their very early 30s as well

  57. Amir — on 6th August, 2006 at 8:47 pm  

    ROHIN!!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY LAD!!

    YOU LOOK GOOD FOR THIRTY!!

  58. Rohin — on 6th August, 2006 at 9:08 pm  

    Katy we played croquet too! Last night at about 3am, after far too many drinks, burgers and..stuff, we decided that croquet would be in order. I banged the hoops into my lawn and set about waking the neighbours.

    I love summer. Thanks for the wishes all.

    Thirty? THIRTY?! Not a chance. Although I am now, tragically, closer to that figure than I am to 20. Quarter century not out.

  59. don — on 6th August, 2006 at 9:17 pm  

    Happy birthday, doc.

  60. don — on 6th August, 2006 at 9:19 pm  

    By the way,

    The next twentyfive? A blur.

  61. Rohin — on 6th August, 2006 at 9:21 pm  

    Don, what’s with the new lower case don? I suddenly find myself having less respect for you. Bring the capital D back! Sincerely, rohin.

  62. don — on 6th August, 2006 at 9:25 pm  

    Slipshodiness, pure shlipshodiness.

  63. TheFriendlyInfidel — on 6th August, 2006 at 11:07 pm  

    Sunny, that’s the rub isn’t it.

    Personally I don’t think it is that is why that biggly chap went to prison for shooting that kid in his house.

    Killing must be an absolute last option to be advoided and all costs. Better to maim or incapsitate, not kill.

    If your family is threatened and you kill the person that is that threat, you have my sympathy, not my permission (please read that the right way, I don’t believe I my “permission” is of any authority).

    The best way to stop a cycle of violence is not to start one, I don’t think that there is anything such as acceptable violence, unless it is between constenting adults - like boxers or governments.

    Before anyone says “Lebonon is not consenting”, this is true, but because they have an unofficial army in their borders attacking without there permission, the problem inretractable.

    TFI
    P.S. Keep your friends away from Landmark, its dangerous.

  64. TheFriendlyInfidel — on 6th August, 2006 at 11:36 pm  

    One expection to the above.

    If a man is standing surrounded by hundreds of people with a bomb strapped to him with his finger about to press the button.

    Shoot him in the face repeatedly.

    If he has his finger holding down a dead switch. Beg him not to release the trigger.

    If a man called Raven walks into your city with a nuclear bomb attached to his side car and a link to his heart beat moniter - pray to the god of your choice as you are in a Neil Stephson book.

    TFI

  65. Amir — on 7th August, 2006 at 12:00 am  

    Something tells me I’ll sleep well tonight….

    Rakhee,… sleep? Sleep? If you ever need a dashing young scallywag to cure your ‘illness’ [a derogatory term for something I greatly admire about the female ‘plateau’], I am more than willing to offer my services. As I say over and over again, there is ‘enough’ Amir to go around. Oh yes.

    There is, I believe, a fine line between true love and a restraining order. Hitherto, the Police have always taken my side on the matter. ;-) May my reign of terror (error?) continue.

    Amir, xxx

  66. Jai making a cameo appearance — on 7th August, 2006 at 11:11 am  

    Rohin,

    Happy Birthday, buddy. Hope you had fun celebrating your big day.

    ****************************************************

    With regards to suggestions for weekend activities, I’d recommend going to see the new “Miami Vice” movie for anyone who’s interested in that sort of thing. A little different from the TV series, but enough of the “basics” are still there, obviously updated for our somewhat grittier and more cynical times. Not without its flaws but generally excellent, gripping and (obviously) extremely stylish stuff. Certainly enough material to make you eager for a sequel.

    Also looks outstanding on the big screen — some beautifully-shot “artistic” segments (you’ll see what I mean if you check out the film).

  67. El Cid — on 7th August, 2006 at 1:07 pm  

    so jai, where’s jay?

  68. TheFriendlyInfidel — on 7th August, 2006 at 1:08 pm  

    of course Sunny, where things get really twisted is: Is it OK to kill one person if it saves the lifes of two people?

    We humans like to kid ourselves into thinking that all human life is more important than anything else. There is no finantual worth you can attach to life.

    If you want to know what life costs, ask a hitman, they have a very clear understanding of the cost to take a life. Amazingly from what I’ve read it is only about 10k.

    TFI

  69. Jai — on 7th August, 2006 at 2:49 pm  

    El Cid,

    =>”so jai, where’s jay?”

    If by Jay you’re referring to Jay Singh, I have no idea as I don’t know him personally. Sunny’s probably in a much better position to explain Jay’s disappearance, assuming that he’s at liberty to discuss that, of course.

    Or maybe Jay’s decided to just quietly observe the debates here rather than actively participate, like myself.

    Speaking of which: Great topics and excellent, well-informed discussions recently here on PP. Keep it up, everyone. Well done.

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