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		<title>By: George Kata</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Kata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Pickled Politics » Dangerous art http://bit.ly/7QC5PX&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Cain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Cain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Pickled Politics » Dangerous art: I&#039;m never one to argue with anyone who tries to raise awareness of any Di.. http://bit.ly/074Me2F&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Binky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Binky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave Bones tale of cock-and-balls self mutilation reminds that a horrid [but well-focussed and well-exposed and well-developed and well-printed] snap of precisely THAT was in the Robert Mapplethorpe exhibition I saw in Boston years ago.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Brits were obliged to see a sanitized version due to the fearless intervention of a woman with enormous teeth, who believes she has a duty to shield Brits from photos of which she dissaproves ...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;NEZTNAR REHTSE&lt;br&gt;REHTSE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Bones tale of cock-and-balls self mutilation reminds that a horrid [but well-focussed and well-exposed and well-developed and well-printed] snap of precisely THAT was in the Robert Mapplethorpe exhibition I saw in Boston years ago.</p>
<p>Brits were obliged to see a sanitized version due to the fearless intervention of a woman with enormous teeth, who believes she has a duty to shield Brits from photos of which she dissaproves &#8230;</p>
<p>NEZTNAR REHTSE<br />REHTSE</p>
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		<title>By: persephone </title>
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		<dc:creator>persephone </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets take aside the DisAbility and treat her first and foremost as an artist who wants freedom of  expression.    &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As a piece of art it is meant to depict &amp; invoke a reaction from the viewer. As with all good art that reaction is individual and could be a mix of empathy, shock, embarassment, curiosity, fear and a feeling of helplessness. Which is probably some of what she has felt as a sufferer of epilepsy. In fact the public are already feeling some of these emotions without having seen it. It will be out of the comfort zone of many and I suspect that is the aim. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps she sees it as her right to have a (temporary) release from the dependency of the medication &amp; let the audience share in the experience rather than it be hidden as something too uncomfortable for us so called &#039;able&#039; bodied to cope with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets take aside the DisAbility and treat her first and foremost as an artist who wants freedom of  expression.    </p>
<p>As a piece of art it is meant to depict &#038; invoke a reaction from the viewer. As with all good art that reaction is individual and could be a mix of empathy, shock, embarassment, curiosity, fear and a feeling of helplessness. Which is probably some of what she has felt as a sufferer of epilepsy. In fact the public are already feeling some of these emotions without having seen it. It will be out of the comfort zone of many and I suspect that is the aim. </p>
<p>Perhaps she sees it as her right to have a (temporary) release from the dependency of the medication &#038; let the audience share in the experience rather than it be hidden as something too uncomfortable for us so called &#39;able&#39; bodied to cope with.</p>
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		<title>By: Laban</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is she charging for admission ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is she charging for admission ?</p>
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		<title>By: dave bones</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6589#comment-186863</link>
		<dc:creator>dave bones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No worries Doug. I don&#039;t do blokes anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries Doug. I don&#39;t do blokes anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6589#comment-186862</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave Bones,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; No, not exactly.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is a bit shit.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Much like most folk that get tattos. That is pretty stupid too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Along with piercing and shit.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But what the hell do I know.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Bones,</p>
<p> No, not exactly.</p>
<p>It is a bit shit.</p>
<p>Much like most folk that get tattos. That is pretty stupid too.</p>
<p>Along with piercing and shit.</p>
<p>But what the hell do I know.?</p>
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		<title>By: dave bones</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave bones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;From the little I know of epilepsy I would say that is a very dangerous thing to do. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dangerous, and interesting. same as tight rope walking. A friend of mine used to do a show worldwide nailing his fore skin and the skin of his balls to a piece of wood and crucifying himself. Was he / is he suffering from some sort of condition? I would guess so. There is an honourable tradition of brave souls who push the extremes in art isn&#039;t there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>From the little I know of epilepsy I would say that is a very dangerous thing to do. </i></p>
<p>Dangerous, and interesting. same as tight rope walking. A friend of mine used to do a show worldwide nailing his fore skin and the skin of his balls to a piece of wood and crucifying himself. Was he / is he suffering from some sort of condition? I would guess so. There is an honourable tradition of brave souls who push the extremes in art isn&#39;t there.</p>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Though I doubt it was deliberate. That is not how Sunny runs this web site.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I suspect the aforementioned SNAFU.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Can I just say thanks for listening to me?  You have set my mind at rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don,</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>Though I doubt it was deliberate. That is not how Sunny runs this web site.</p>
<p>I suspect the aforementioned SNAFU.</p>
<p>Can I just say thanks for listening to me?  You have set my mind at rest.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Douglas,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nope, nowhere to comment. It ain&#039;t just you. Thread must be closed, probably just as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Douglas,</p>
<p>Nope, nowhere to comment. It ain&#39;t just you. Thread must be closed, probably just as well.</p>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KB Player,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you know me, you&#039;ll know I don&#039;t back down either. Unless, of course the technology lets me down.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Which, I suspect, is what has happened.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And I completely agree with you about the new commenting system. It doesn&#039;t appear to work. Hence Graham getting the last word..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Which is a bit shit.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Can you comment on that thread? It&#039;s the one headed:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Digging deeper into a hole of stupidity&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am just interested. I have no idea what the outcome might be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KB Player,</p>
<p>If you know me, you&#39;ll know I don&#39;t back down either. Unless, of course the technology lets me down.</p>
<p>Which, I suspect, is what has happened.</p>
<p>And I completely agree with you about the new commenting system. It doesn&#39;t appear to work. Hence Graham getting the last word..</p>
<p>Which is a bit shit.</p>
<p>Can you comment on that thread? It&#39;s the one headed:</p>
<blockquote><p>Digging deeper into a hole of stupidity</p></blockquote>
<p>I am just interested. I have no idea what the outcome might be.</p>
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		<title>By: KB Player</title>
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		<dc:creator>KB Player</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen footage of people having seizures and it seemed terribly intrusive to watch it, same as, say, watching someone having a heart attack.  In fact I&#039;d say &quot;gawp&quot; rather than &quot;watch&quot;.  Unless you&#039;re helping them, watching someone in such a state is voyeuristic, like rubbernecking at an accident.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I had a boyfriend who was epileptic and of course if he had a fit, I&#039;d be doing what I could to help him, trying to get him out of the way of things that might hurt him.  He had a fit once on a step and broke a couple of ribs.  I can&#039;t say I&#039;d want to view this kind of thing as an artwork.  If I knew someone was acting it, it would be different.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Douglas - leaving Graham with the last word is the human condition.  He never gives up nor backs down.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Have I mentioned that this new commenting system is a bit annoying?  I liked the old one better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve seen footage of people having seizures and it seemed terribly intrusive to watch it, same as, say, watching someone having a heart attack.  In fact I&#39;d say &#8220;gawp&#8221; rather than &#8220;watch&#8221;.  Unless you&#39;re helping them, watching someone in such a state is voyeuristic, like rubbernecking at an accident.</p>
<p>I had a boyfriend who was epileptic and of course if he had a fit, I&#39;d be doing what I could to help him, trying to get him out of the way of things that might hurt him.  He had a fit once on a step and broke a couple of ribs.  I can&#39;t say I&#39;d want to view this kind of thing as an artwork.  If I knew someone was acting it, it would be different.</p>
<p>Douglas &#8211; leaving Graham with the last word is the human condition.  He never gives up nor backs down.  </p>
<p>Have I mentioned that this new commenting system is a bit annoying?  I liked the old one better.</p>
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		<title>By: sarah ismail</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarah ismail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @pickledpolitics: Blog post:: Dangerous art http://bit.ly/4U77Ax&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David O&#039;Keefe, I take your point about me and Harry&#039;s Place. I really do. But leaving Graham with the last word is quite aggravating. It really is. If this is a fault in Disqus or summat, I can live with that. I suspect it is.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are enormous faults with this system. Sometimes it holds my details, and sometimes it doesn&#039;t. This, for instance, was my second attempt to reply to you. First time around I was Mr Anonymous. If it was consistent, then that&#039;d be OK.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But finding you can&#039;t post on a thread you&#039;d like to, because you suspect it is a technological SNAFU, is quote annoying.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You try it. Can you post to the thread headed:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Digging deeper into a hole of stupidity&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;d be interested in your reply. It might get us nearer an explanation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am not completely mad, despite what Graham says....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David O&#39;Keefe, I take your point about me and Harry&#39;s Place. I really do. But leaving Graham with the last word is quite aggravating. It really is. If this is a fault in Disqus or summat, I can live with that. I suspect it is.</p>
<p>There are enormous faults with this system. Sometimes it holds my details, and sometimes it doesn&#39;t. This, for instance, was my second attempt to reply to you. First time around I was Mr Anonymous. If it was consistent, then that&#39;d be OK.</p>
<p>But finding you can&#39;t post on a thread you&#39;d like to, because you suspect it is a technological SNAFU, is quote annoying.</p>
<p>You try it. Can you post to the thread headed:</p>
<blockquote><p>Digging deeper into a hole of stupidity</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#39;d be interested in your reply. It might get us nearer an explanation.</p>
<p>I am not completely mad, despite what Graham says&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: David O&#39;Keefe</title>
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		<dc:creator>David O&#39;Keefe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dougie, Just drop it, your taking it too far. Leave it alone and come back to it another day, as HP&#039;s conduct will probably be up for discussion again in the future.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Its turning to an obsession, heed my advice please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dougie, Just drop it, your taking it too far. Leave it alone and come back to it another day, as HP&#39;s conduct will probably be up for discussion again in the future.</p>
<p>Its turning to an obsession, heed my advice please.</p>
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		<title>By: sarah ismail</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarah ismail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @pickledpolitics: Blog post:: Dangerous art http://bit.ly/4U77Ax&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As you appear to be on-line, can I ask you why I am prohibited from taking Graham to task?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It seems to me that I am being restricted, either because you guys think I should be or because of some technical glitch. I&#039;d like to know which it is. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On that thread, and on that thread only, there is nowhere for me to comment.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway, enough off topic stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.</p>
<p>As you appear to be on-line, can I ask you why I am prohibited from taking Graham to task?</p>
<p>It seems to me that I am being restricted, either because you guys think I should be or because of some technical glitch. I&#39;d like to know which it is. </p>
<p>On that thread, and on that thread only, there is nowhere for me to comment.</p>
<p>Anyway, enough off topic stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Rumbold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rumbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apart from Binky.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Good piece Sarah. The artist is brave and it is her choice, but if she sought my advice, I would say don&#039;t do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apart from Binky.</p>
<p>Good piece Sarah. The artist is brave and it is her choice, but if she sought my advice, I would say don&#39;t do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you both for your comments. You both make good and interesting points.</description>
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		<title>By: Binky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Binky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the stuff of late-night Japanese TV.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What does the BMA say about this; THEIR opinion would be worth knowing!</description>
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<p>What does the BMA say about this; THEIR opinion would be worth knowing!</p>
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