I was referring to Marcus' post, not a single comment. I do think devoting an entire post to attacking someone's background and character is going over the top. No, I cannot define exactly where the line is crossed, but if you devote a whole post to it, it is too much.

And certainly you don't have to put on the red light…

Please!

Wow.

Did he run over your cat, Douglas?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEnJDaqT3-0&feat…

For I do not believe in you……

I accept that you did not call Laurie Penny an STD, although that is less than obvious from your post of 19th Nov @ 4:50pm. I had to read a lot of background to give you the 'Get Out of Jail' card I've just given you. Perhaps you could be bothered to allocate quotes when they are from different people?

But you are still quite a happy camper in the gross insult, the grossness of just being a rudeboy, aren't you?

Wow

Tom Miller 16 November 2009, 2:44 pm

“Spoilt little girl seems to me to be a simple description which does exactly what it says on the tin. Interesting that people seem to be using Political Correctness to defend class interests.”

What a load of rubbish. Firstly, Laurie is hardly well off.

Secondly, whether or not she is is of total irrelevance to the value of the points she makes and is a transparent attempt to conduct this conversation on an ad hominem basis, i.e. avoid the real issues.

Thirdly, bullying comments based on age and class should have no place in this movement. If an MPAC article called her a silly little girl, you lot would be up in arms.

Fourth, the left will fail overall as soon as it endorses arbitrary identity discrimination against its own, and as long as it continues to disrespect participants in debate by focussing on their person rather than their arguments in themselves.

Graham and Marcus, in a multitude of senses, you are the disease you seek to cure.

Graham 16 November 2009, 4:50 pm

(Quoting Tom Miller) :”Graham and Marcus, in a multitude of senses, you are the disease you seek to cure.”

No. We are the vaccine and you are a particularly annoying STD which has disguised itself as a different ailment entirely etc….

Dear oh Dear Dougie

That's part of my post?

Bwahahaha!

If you are going to edit Dougie at least make it look credible

Here's your whole post:

Graham
16 November 2009, 4:50 pm

Being attacked because of my age, sex, class and background is something that I’m used to, especially when people can’t find enough points in my actual writing to disagree with.

Got you both ways this time then didn’t we

Secondly, whether or not she is is of total irrelevance to the value of the points she makes and is a transparent attempt to conduct this conversation on an ad hominem basis, i.e. avoid the real issues.

Thirdly, bullying comments based on age and class should have no place in this movement.

What movement? I’d rather be part of a bowel movement than share anything with the likes of you.

the real issue to me is (as pointed out above) that someone posted this stinking heap of cow manure on my thread yesterday without as much as taking into account what I had said about Islamism and islam in the past.

Graham and Marcus, in a multitude of senses, you are the disease you seek to cure.

No. We are the vaccine and you are a particularly annoying STD which has disguised itself as a different ailment entirely.

Now when you turn up and express shock and all your wally-vill middle-class “niceities” that someone on these threads is being called “council house scum” I might be willing to listen to you – until then fuck off and eat your tofu burger because as far as I’m concerned you are toast.

Just so I can get an idea of his morality like.

Try again

That comment was made to Tom wotsisname – the Tory MP lookalike from Woking – now please stop being dishonest you have made a big enough fool of yourself on this thread already.

What could constitute a greater attack on one's character than a suggestion one might be a racist, a bigot, or a bully? “Respond to her points”? You make it sound like she was disagreeing with the font used at HP. She frickin' smeared us!

“That's right, officer. I simply kicked away the blind man's stick and spat in his face when an angry mob began directing invective towards me”.

Well you did rather compare her to a sexually transmitted disease, but perhaps you forgot that:

Harrys Place, 16th Nov 2009, 4:50pm

“Graham and Marcus, in a multitude of senses, you are the disease you seek to cure.”

No. We are the vaccine and you are a particularly annoying STD which has disguised itself as a different ailment entirely.

Now when you turn up and express shock and all your wally-vill middle-class “niceities” that someone on these threads is being called “council house scum” I might be willing to listen to you – until then fuck off and eat your tofu burger because as far as I’m concerned you are toast.

Thanks Rumbold.

Can I remind you that the worst thing I called Laurie Penny was “a silly little girl” and that in response one of her supporters called me a paedophile?

Keeping things in proportion can be deeply unpleasant

There have been other instances, but that’s one can I remember off the top of my head.

Apart from the single incident involving Sunny several months after “Reza” started commenting on this website, there have been no other instances where “Reza” has been called a “Nazi” by any other commenters on Pickled Politics (prior to Ravi's usage of the term “neo-nazi” on this thread).

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=site:www…

As I said earlier, the fact that “Reza” claims that there have been multiple other instances (albeit not any that he can remember “off the top of his head”) is indicative of a deeper psychological & behavioural problem on his part.

There is no justification that a sane, well balanced and progressive audience should tolerate such hatred.

And any stance built on such outright hatred is not a good basis for a long term strategy.