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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6499/comment-page-1#comment-185995</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunny, &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Is there anywhere we can go to learn this new stuff? I commented on Halimas&#039; thread and frankly, because of formatting, I wish I hadn&#039;t.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;There are different rules about blockquoting and bolding within a blockquote, at least I think there is. There also seems to be a different arrangement for closing off a blockquote.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;If you care to look at my comment, forgetting the purpose, the thing is a Grauniad like disaster.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Could you point everybody in the right direction?&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunny, </p>
<p>Is there anywhere we can go to learn this new stuff? I commented on Halimas&#39; thread and frankly, because of formatting, I wish I hadn&#39;t.</p>
<p>There are different rules about blockquoting and bolding within a blockquote, at least I think there is. There also seems to be a different arrangement for closing off a blockquote.</p>
<p>If you care to look at my comment, forgetting the purpose, the thing is a Grauniad like disaster.</p>
<p>Could you point everybody in the right direction?</p>
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		<title>By: Refresh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6499/comment-page-1#comment-185900</link>
		<dc:creator>Refresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was reluctant to post a comment because of the login, register with Disqus thing, then opted for Guest. And yet I am now getting emails from Disqus. The very thing I wanted to avoid.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now a 3rd party, who I know very little about has my details and perhaps records of all our comments. This 3rd party will also, presumably, have the same from thousands of other bogs. Are they now the comment repository for blogs?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Does this not mean that if anyone wanted to harvest a particular contributors comments they only need to go to one source?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t know Disqus, I know you. I don&#039;t wish to give my details and thoughts to Disqus, I am happy to let you store them not them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t like it, and nor should you. Can we please go back to our &#039;trusted&#039; arrangement where my/our comments and details are lodged with you and not someone else whose real value will be the number of &#039;registrations&#039; and volume of &#039;comments&#039; lodged. These could at some future date be sold on; or profiles compiled for future marketing campaigns (that being the kinder view of what is possible).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Who are disqus and what is the commercial arrangement (if any) between PP and them? And what are the terms of privacy in play; and under what circumstances can they opt out?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And how can we ask for our details to be removed from their records?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was reluctant to post a comment because of the login, register with Disqus thing, then opted for Guest. And yet I am now getting emails from Disqus. The very thing I wanted to avoid.</p>
<p>Now a 3rd party, who I know very little about has my details and perhaps records of all our comments. This 3rd party will also, presumably, have the same from thousands of other bogs. Are they now the comment repository for blogs?</p>
<p>Does this not mean that if anyone wanted to harvest a particular contributors comments they only need to go to one source?</p>
<p>I don&#39;t know Disqus, I know you. I don&#39;t wish to give my details and thoughts to Disqus, I am happy to let you store them not them.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t like it, and nor should you. Can we please go back to our &#39;trusted&#39; arrangement where my/our comments and details are lodged with you and not someone else whose real value will be the number of &#39;registrations&#39; and volume of &#39;comments&#39; lodged. These could at some future date be sold on; or profiles compiled for future marketing campaigns (that being the kinder view of what is possible).</p>
<p>Who are disqus and what is the commercial arrangement (if any) between PP and them? And what are the terms of privacy in play; and under what circumstances can they opt out?</p>
<p>And how can we ask for our details to be removed from their records?</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6499/comment-page-1#comment-185770</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;it incorporates reactions on other blogs/twitter/fb etc. So it combines various plugins - which is nice&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To a given value of nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>it incorporates reactions on other blogs/twitter/fb etc. So it combines various plugins &#8211; which is nice</i></p>
<p>To a given value of nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny H</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6499/comment-page-1#comment-185769</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got rid of the threaded structure and put the comments box at the end again.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m going to look at the CSS again to see how I can make this simpler and take out the features...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;it&#039;s easier in the sense that there&#039;s much less spam and people can edit their own comments and it incorporates reactions on other blogs/twitter/fb etc. So it combines various plugins - which is nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got rid of the threaded structure and put the comments box at the end again.</p>
<p>I&#39;m going to look at the CSS again to see how I can make this simpler and take out the features&#8230;</p>
<p>it&#39;s easier in the sense that there&#39;s much less spam and people can edit their own comments and it incorporates reactions on other blogs/twitter/fb etc. So it combines various plugins &#8211; which is nice.</p>
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		<title>By: persephone </title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6499/comment-page-1#comment-185765</link>
		<dc:creator>persephone </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm not sure if I like not being able to edit my comment from here.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, it takes some (10?) minutes before a comment appears on the latest comments column .. can this be speeded up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm not sure if I like not being able to edit my comment from here.</p>
<p>Also, it takes some (10?) minutes before a comment appears on the latest comments column .. can this be speeded up?</p>
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		<title>By: persephone </title>
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		<dc:creator>persephone </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cannot create the disqus profile as persephone is already taken....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cannot create the disqus profile as persephone is already taken&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Hunt</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6499/comment-page-1#comment-185757</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This comeents system is supposedly threaded, but I can&#039;t see how to determine when one comment is a reply to another. In other words, the threading isn&#039;t working.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This comeents system is supposedly threaded, but I can&#39;t see how to determine when one comment is a reply to another. In other words, the threading isn&#39;t working.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Hunt</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6499/comment-page-1#comment-185756</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Hello?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Hello?</i></p>
<p>There</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6499/comment-page-1#comment-185746</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also &lt;i&gt;report&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If I see a vile comment I don&#039;t want to &#039;report&#039; it. What was wrong with a good old-fashioned stomping? What kind of creep &#039;reports&#039; comments? You don&#039;t like it, deal with it. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t like change at the best of times, it&#039;s like when you&#039;re local gets done out and they paint over the nicotine ceiling.  But this new format ...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.studenti.pef.upr.si/%7Ejures/vario/donotwant.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.studenti.pef.upr.si/~jures/vario/don...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also <i>report</i>.</p>
<p>If I see a vile comment I don&#39;t want to &#39;report&#39; it. What was wrong with a good old-fashioned stomping? What kind of creep &#39;reports&#39; comments? You don&#39;t like it, deal with it. </p>
<p>I don&#39;t like change at the best of times, it&#39;s like when you&#39;re local gets done out and they paint over the nicotine ceiling.  But this new format &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.studenti.pef.upr.si/%7Ejures/vario/donotwant.jpg" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.studenti.pef.upr.si/~jures/vario/don.." rel="nofollow">http://www.studenti.pef.upr.si/~jures/vario/don..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, don&#039;t like.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Can&#039;t use disqus because my name has already been taken. And besides it apparently allows you go edit or delete your comments retrospectively, which is going to be confusing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The &lt;i&gt;reply&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;like&lt;/i&gt; functions are ok. Although &lt;i&gt;like&lt;/i&gt; does introduce an element of popularity contest and it is better to be right than popular.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As I keep telling myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, don&#39;t like.</p>
<p>Can&#39;t use disqus because my name has already been taken. And besides it apparently allows you go edit or delete your comments retrospectively, which is going to be confusing.</p>
<p>The <i>reply</i> and <i>like</i> functions are ok. Although <i>like</i> does introduce an element of popularity contest and it is better to be right than popular.</p>
<p>As I keep telling myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Adnan</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6499/comment-page-1#comment-185729</link>
		<dc:creator>Adnan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. The new system is taking an age to update the Latest Comments status. Also, it&#039;s easy miss out replies to recent threads if the thread is old. I can see why you&#039;d want threads together, though. Also, do I really want to manage my comments across the web (or have somebody claim my past comments and troll under my PP identity) ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. The new system is taking an age to update the Latest Comments status. Also, it&#39;s easy miss out replies to recent threads if the thread is old. I can see why you&#39;d want threads together, though. Also, do I really want to manage my comments across the web (or have somebody claim my past comments and troll under my PP identity) ?</p>
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		<title>By: halima </title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6499/comment-page-1#comment-185726</link>
		<dc:creator>halima </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it me? Or is this a bit too busy ? I can&#039;t relax looking at this format  ? Simplicity is best..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it me? Or is this a bit too busy ? I can&#39;t relax looking at this format  ? Simplicity is best..</p>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6499/comment-page-1#comment-185706</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least here Tweets aren&#039;t seen as more important than comments. Which is how it is on Liberal Conspiracy and not for the better, I&#039;d say....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least here Tweets aren&#39;t seen as more important than comments. Which is how it is on Liberal Conspiracy and not for the better, I&#39;d say&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worth checking</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worth checking</p>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6499/comment-page-1#comment-185702</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or to exactly copy what you did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or to exactly copy what you did.</p>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6499/comment-page-1#comment-185701</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But it is threading mine, I think. This is a proof of concept, or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But it is threading mine, I think. This is a proof of concept, or not.</p>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6499/comment-page-1#comment-185700</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;OK, I admit, I was LOL about that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;LOL = laughing out loud, maybe....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear!</p>
<p>OK, I admit, I was LOL about that.</p>
<p>LOL = laughing out loud, maybe&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: qidniz</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6499/comment-page-1#comment-185696</link>
		<dc:creator>qidniz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, the Reply function is not threading my followup at all.  (I just tried to reply to Douglas and it didn&#039;t &quot;work&quot;).  The Disqus JS code is interacting badly with my browser configuration.  Scratch my speculation that one can&#039;t followup to oneself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, the Reply function is not threading my followup at all.  (I just tried to reply to Douglas and it didn&#39;t &#8220;work&#8221;).  The Disqus JS code is interacting badly with my browser configuration.  Scratch my speculation that one can&#39;t followup to oneself.</p>
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		<title>By: qidniz</title>
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		<dc:creator>qidniz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed. Unless I&#039;m following a particular &quot;trail&quot; I&#039;m likely to miss additions in the visual clutter, all the more so if the thread is a busy one with many posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed. Unless I&#39;m following a particular &#8220;trail&#8221; I&#39;m likely to miss additions in the visual clutter, all the more so if the thread is a busy one with many posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Rumbold</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6499/comment-page-1#comment-185694</link>
		<dc:creator>Rumbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand it myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t understand it myself.</p>
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