Ouch. Must have hurt being verbally bitch-slapped by a “racist”, eh Hundal?

He didn’t feel a thing. Utter obliviousness is what makes him the Sunny Hundal we all know and love.

Are they? From what I can gather they are insignificant and pretty much single-issue English Parliament types. Traditional counties, traditional values etc. Anachronistic, sentimental tories seems more the case to me, but I just did a quick google.

Their website says that they see Englishness as a ’state of mind’ and they claim to welcome anyone who shares their vision of England. Maybe they mean it. I doubt we’ll be hearing from them for long, but I don’t see them as having done anything to deserve opprobrium.

Is there something you know that I don’t? Seriously. I just had a look at their web-site, Wiki and YouTube and saw nothing to arouse ire.

I like your approach. You should take that act to the stage. I would pay to see it

Abdul. These stand offs with EDL and UAF and what have you.

They are highly ritualised almost orchestrated . I mean they are BUSSED IN for Allah’s sake.

Only a few limp wristed slaps then follow.
Are these real men ?

Are these the same roast beef and ale Englanders who terrified half the globe Abdul ?

Whatever happened to the real glorious ‘butcher’ riots of partition days and the French and Russian revolutions.

What a poor lot they are nowadays. Softened by too much housing benefit and Wetherspoons special deals.
That’s the trouble.

Sometimes I worry about this country Abdul….

A customer then comes in and buys the 40,000 ndsth Daily Mail that morning.

Well, yes. And no – these are the English people. Are their attitudes any more or less enlightened than the average Indian on the street? The average African or American? I don’t think so.

The only real difference is the remarkable contempt with which the English middle class in particular has for the lower orders – I think that’s a key reason multiculturalism in particular has been pursued: because it’s true, it largely enriches the wealthy (nannies, cooking etc) as Andrew Neather wrote, and they have always, always despised and feared the working class who they even, really, deny an actual cultural identity. It’s a form of cultural genocide in the service of class interest.

the current trend of wholesale hugging the flag and pointing the finger at anyone looking foreign makes me feel uncomfortable also. The video was funny the spokesman is a complete muppet he said its ok for jewish beth din courts to solve civil disputes but not for muslims to have there version because apparently there gonna chop your hands off lol. If your going to be spokesman for anyone at least have a brain!

Yes niqab wearing has gone up in line with this ‘graph’ you mention.

Your mutual disregard for someone who cannot communicate ideas as well as you do are, what?

Arrogance, or summat wrapped up in joint 2.2 sociology degrees?

It says a fucking sight more about your mutual intellectual arrogance than any sort of shared humanity or empathy.

I will stand up for science, I will not have truck with this intellectual bullshit. Given that Falcao, in particular, couldn’t argue his way out of a wet paper bag.

Frankly, it is the pair of you that come across as a couple of elitist chumps.

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damon @ 14.

They say that the balaclavas that they sometimes wear are no worse than ‘burkas’.
It’s a culture gulf.

Yes, but who started it? Has the rather controversial and usually wrong Falcao even broached that issue on this thread? I think he is daft, but he is not that daft.

You could probably graph the incidence of burka wearing – v – anti muslim sentiments on a time line. It might be an interesting exercise.

Having watched a few youtubes like this, I think that the UAF tactics are totally wrong and that they show themselves up to be narrow thinkers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImdXSGew7H4

The answer to this is not to be winding up muslim youth (and student lefties) to be physically attacking these EDL people, but maybe trying to reason with the EDL’s leading members. (And maybe just accepting that these people need to let off steam from time to time).
They say their not racist, so hold them to it.
They say they are not agaist muslims, so try to get them to be more specific in what the’re against.

Tell them that chanting ”Muslim bombers, off our strets” is divisive … but this is where my plan wont work. They wouldn’t understand why.

They say that the balaclavas that they sometimes wear are no worse than ‘burkas’.
It’s a culture gulf.

But these people are the same people who lived in the England that Dickens wrote about and who made up the Pals battalions in WW1. The world has moved on and they have lagged behind.

I’m happy to help too.

My favourite was a young lad with who sported a tattoo of a bulldog with the words “White Spirit” and was holding a placard from BM4SD.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77827383@N00/4060969331/

Sunny, saw you busily debating those other blokes, wish I’d known they were SIOE. Here’s a pic of you in action:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77827383@N00/4060970125/