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		<title>By: lfc4life</title>
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		<dc:creator>lfc4life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has it come to this level where the death of someone looking for a better life is applauded and cheered.</description>
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		<title>By: Binky</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6447#comment-183741</link>
		<dc:creator>Binky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This person died in France?

Why is anyone in Blighty bothered about him and his sad fate?

Is he being recycled in a Parisian medical school by now by the ever-frugal waste-not-want-not Friggies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This person died in France?</p>
<p>Why is anyone in Blighty bothered about him and his sad fate?</p>
<p>Is he being recycled in a Parisian medical school by now by the ever-frugal waste-not-want-not Friggies?</p>
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		<title>By: Kulvinder</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6447#comment-183734</link>
		<dc:creator>Kulvinder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If only people like Sunny had not silenced the debate on immigration and (bogus) asylum for the last few decades.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you&#039;re going to go down the route of moronic rants; you may as well blame the tories for constructing the channel tunnel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If only people like Sunny had not silenced the debate on immigration and (bogus) asylum for the last few decades.</p></blockquote>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to go down the route of moronic rants; you may as well blame the tories for constructing the channel tunnel.</p>
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		<title>By: Dalbir</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6447#comment-183731</link>
		<dc:creator>Dalbir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@28/29

Funny, if some of us brown folks were openly like &quot;yawn...another whitey dies in Afghanistan/Iraq....x to go&quot;, there would be a massive furore. But saying &quot;1 down and a million to go&quot; (or whatever) for darkies seems fine and something we shouldn&#039;t bat an eyelid at.

Whilst the debate about immigration gets hijacked and abused, I think we should open up another one about the ugly side of British (paticularly English), society. By this I mean that lumpen section that wallows in hate and negativity, like it was some sort of cultural duty. It is no fucking coincidence that Daily Mail sales figures are so high!</description>
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<p>Funny, if some of us brown folks were openly like &#8220;yawn&#8230;another whitey dies in Afghanistan/Iraq&#8230;.x to go&#8221;, there would be a massive furore. But saying &#8220;1 down and a million to go&#8221; (or whatever) for darkies seems fine and something we shouldn&#8217;t bat an eyelid at.</p>
<p>Whilst the debate about immigration gets hijacked and abused, I think we should open up another one about the ugly side of British (paticularly English), society. By this I mean that lumpen section that wallows in hate and negativity, like it was some sort of cultural duty. It is no fucking coincidence that Daily Mail sales figures are so high!</p>
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		<title>By: Charming Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6447#comment-183725</link>
		<dc:creator>Charming Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right...</description>
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		<title>By: Abdul Abbulbul Emir</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6447#comment-183724</link>
		<dc:creator>Abdul Abbulbul Emir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a Daily Mail reader is a matter of choosing to take part in a poisonous conversation about British life â€“

Charming Pete.

Mrs A is not pleased with you.

After all the Daily Mail constantly insults the BNP with vilification . Even the great Littlebum calls them odious.

And he should know.

There are many articles about extreme nastiness of N Griffin. Many people come into my shop to buy this paper.

I have educated all my children privately on the proceeds.

As for the Sun Mrs A says that R Murdoch is a great big globalising rascal so does not concern himself with issues of pressing importance to British people.

Mrs A has asked me to tell you to work that out for yourself.

Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a Daily Mail reader is a matter of choosing to take part in a poisonous conversation about British life â€“</p>
<p>Charming Pete.</p>
<p>Mrs A is not pleased with you.</p>
<p>After all the Daily Mail constantly insults the BNP with vilification . Even the great Littlebum calls them odious.</p>
<p>And he should know.</p>
<p>There are many articles about extreme nastiness of N Griffin. Many people come into my shop to buy this paper.</p>
<p>I have educated all my children privately on the proceeds.</p>
<p>As for the Sun Mrs A says that R Murdoch is a great big globalising rascal so does not concern himself with issues of pressing importance to British people.</p>
<p>Mrs A has asked me to tell you to work that out for yourself.</p>
<p>Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Charming Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6447#comment-183723</link>
		<dc:creator>Charming Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I was venting spleen a little fruitily there, I&#039;m not sure I do see what the problem is I&#039;m afraid.

Being an immigrant isn&#039;t a value system, being Black is a matter of ethnicity and culture, being Muslim or Jewish is a matter of religion and culture. 

Being a Daily Mail reader is a matter of choosing to  take part in a  poisonous conversation about British life - and of choosing to have a petulant, small-minded, inhumane value system that is very comfortable with racism, misogyny and homophobia and that hates those (immigrants) who have shown initiative and guts and tried to improve their lives.

The paper is an entirely toxic element in British society - and its writers and readers have made the choice to hold the attitudes that make it so. It is a deliberately unpleasant paper in a way, I would suggest, that The Sun isn&#039;t. 

The absence of such attitudes would make Britain a more pleasant place. It&#039;s up to them. At the moment they&#039;re choosing to be snivelling scum.

b&#039;shalom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I was venting spleen a little fruitily there, I&#8217;m not sure I do see what the problem is I&#8217;m afraid.</p>
<p>Being an immigrant isn&#8217;t a value system, being Black is a matter of ethnicity and culture, being Muslim or Jewish is a matter of religion and culture. </p>
<p>Being a Daily Mail reader is a matter of choosing to  take part in a  poisonous conversation about British life &#8211; and of choosing to have a petulant, small-minded, inhumane value system that is very comfortable with racism, misogyny and homophobia and that hates those (immigrants) who have shown initiative and guts and tried to improve their lives.</p>
<p>The paper is an entirely toxic element in British society &#8211; and its writers and readers have made the choice to hold the attitudes that make it so. It is a deliberately unpleasant paper in a way, I would suggest, that The Sun isn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>The absence of such attitudes would make Britain a more pleasant place. It&#8217;s up to them. At the moment they&#8217;re choosing to be snivelling scum.</p>
<p>b&#8217;shalom</p>
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		<title>By: persephone</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6447#comment-183718</link>
		<dc:creator>persephone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œdesperate and angry people wouldnâ€™t have made such callous comments regarding the loss of his life.â€

These DM commenters are most likely those who think its political correctedness gone mad for them not to be able to make such comments openly. They confuse abhorrence with being PC. 

I blame Nick Griffin and the BNP. After all, Nick&#039;s new tactic of using saleable language to win over the non racist moderate people and gain more free media coverage means they cannot voice their real ideas, unless anonymously over blogs.

Come on Nick, give them a break. They are making such comments because its their main outlet to dig down and unleash their NF roots. And they are raring to do so, in light of their leader not being as forthright on QT. This has led them to be angry &amp; desperate to take control themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œdesperate and angry people wouldnâ€™t have made such callous comments regarding the loss of his life.â€</p>
<p>These DM commenters are most likely those who think its political correctedness gone mad for them not to be able to make such comments openly. They confuse abhorrence with being PC. </p>
<p>I blame Nick Griffin and the BNP. After all, Nick&#8217;s new tactic of using saleable language to win over the non racist moderate people and gain more free media coverage means they cannot voice their real ideas, unless anonymously over blogs.</p>
<p>Come on Nick, give them a break. They are making such comments because its their main outlet to dig down and unleash their NF roots. And they are raring to do so, in light of their leader not being as forthright on QT. This has led them to be angry &amp; desperate to take control themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: persephone</title>
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		<dc:creator>persephone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œdesperate and angry people wouldnâ€™t have made such callous comments regarding the loss of his life.â€

These DM commenters are most likely those who think its political correctedness gone mad for them not to be able to make such comments openly. They confuse abhorrence with being PC. 

I blame Nick Griffin and the BNP. After all, Nick&#039;s new tactic of using saleable language to win over the non racist moderate people and gain more free media coverage means they cannot voice their real ideas, unless anonymously over blogs.

Come on Nick, give them a break. They are making such comments because its their main outlet to dig down and unleash their NF roots. And they are raring to do so, in light of their leader on QT not being as forthright on QT. This has led them to be angry &amp; desperate to take control themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œdesperate and angry people wouldnâ€™t have made such callous comments regarding the loss of his life.â€</p>
<p>These DM commenters are most likely those who think its political correctedness gone mad for them not to be able to make such comments openly. They confuse abhorrence with being PC. </p>
<p>I blame Nick Griffin and the BNP. After all, Nick&#8217;s new tactic of using saleable language to win over the non racist moderate people and gain more free media coverage means they cannot voice their real ideas, unless anonymously over blogs.</p>
<p>Come on Nick, give them a break. They are making such comments because its their main outlet to dig down and unleash their NF roots. And they are raring to do so, in light of their leader on QT not being as forthright on QT. This has led them to be angry &amp; desperate to take control themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: persephone</title>
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		<dc:creator>persephone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These same DM commentators are most likely those who think not being able to say such things openly are what is wrong with political correctedness. They would not see the difference b/n abhorrence and PC. Perhaps labelling it as PC makes them feel better - they can make a better pact with their conscience and even sleep at night thinking they are on some moral ground. 

And perhaps they are just tired of Nick Griffin and the BNP&#039;s &#039;saleable&#039; language tactic and make such comments as it gives them an outlet to dig down into their NF roots. 

Nick, should let them off from having to use &#039;saleable&#039; language when they are raring to be unleashed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These same DM commentators are most likely those who think not being able to say such things openly are what is wrong with political correctedness. They would not see the difference b/n abhorrence and PC. Perhaps labelling it as PC makes them feel better &#8211; they can make a better pact with their conscience and even sleep at night thinking they are on some moral ground. </p>
<p>And perhaps they are just tired of Nick Griffin and the BNP&#8217;s &#8216;saleable&#8217; language tactic and make such comments as it gives them an outlet to dig down into their NF roots. </p>
<p>Nick, should let them off from having to use &#8216;saleable&#8217; language when they are raring to be unleashed.</p>
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		<title>By: bananabrain</title>
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		<dc:creator>bananabrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@charmingpete:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Ironically, with regards to those comments, this country would be a far more pleasant place if [immigrants/muslims/jews/blacks] were all to die off suddenly. They really are worthless human filth.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

can you really not see what the problem is?

b&#039;shalom

bananabrain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@charmingpete:</p>
<blockquote><p>Ironically, with regards to those comments, this country would be a far more pleasant place if [immigrants/muslims/jews/blacks] were all to die off suddenly. They really are worthless human filth.</p></blockquote>
<p>can you really not see what the problem is?</p>
<p>b&#8217;shalom</p>
<p>bananabrain</p>
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		<title>By: zaffer</title>
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		<dc:creator>zaffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I canâ€™t believe how thick people are to blame immigrants for the dire situation in the UK. When the tories campaigned on this in the last general election the UK public shooed them off realising this is not a bread and butter issue. Now that weâ€™re in this financial mess, because of reckless, high risk bankers, the immigration issue is to blame with each party wanting to be seen to be the toughest. Most economic migrants are leaving this country faster than coming here. Most migrants I know come here to work in jobs that the indigenous population are too lazy to do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I canâ€™t believe how thick people are to blame immigrants for the dire situation in the UK. When the tories campaigned on this in the last general election the UK public shooed them off realising this is not a bread and butter issue. Now that weâ€™re in this financial mess, because of reckless, high risk bankers, the immigration issue is to blame with each party wanting to be seen to be the toughest. Most economic migrants are leaving this country faster than coming here. Most migrants I know come here to work in jobs that the indigenous population are too lazy to do!</p>
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		<title>By: camilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>camilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>general tiredness and disappointment with it all, the policy, ecomonics, political correctness</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>general tiredness and disappointment with it all, the policy, ecomonics, political correctness</p>
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		<title>By: camilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>camilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that they are celebrating it or it makes them happy... they just say &quot;so what?&quot;... it is not right, nothing to be proud about, but it&#039;s the results of the general &quot;not-rightness&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that they are celebrating it or it makes them happy&#8230; they just say &#8220;so what?&#8221;&#8230; it is not right, nothing to be proud about, but it&#8217;s the results of the general &#8220;not-rightness&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dalbir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dalbir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that people are equating dislike or apathy with celebrating someone&#039;s death just goes to show how warped they are.

On the other side, we should stop imagining everyone as generally tolerating and fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that people are equating dislike or apathy with celebrating someone&#8217;s death just goes to show how warped they are.</p>
<p>On the other side, we should stop imagining everyone as generally tolerating and fair.</p>
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		<title>By: Dalbir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dalbir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that people are equating dislike or apathy with celebrating someone&#039;s death just goes to show how warped these people are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that people are equating dislike or apathy with celebrating someone&#8217;s death just goes to show how warped these people are.</p>
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		<title>By: camilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>camilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or just take commentators from this site</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or just take commentators from this site</p>
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		<title>By: camilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>camilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and anyway - if people are tired of immigrants (or of whatever), what should they do? make themselves like things that they hate? why? for what? for the immigrants&#039; sake? good relation should be mutual</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and anyway &#8211; if people are tired of immigrants (or of whatever), what should they do? make themselves like things that they hate? why? for what? for the immigrants&#8217; sake? good relation should be mutual</p>
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		<title>By: camilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>camilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh Sunny, you did it again! you wrote all these comments to put the whole thing in your blog - that&#039;s really shameful

speaking of shame - I have read a lot of comments made by immigrants or their children on their forums about the native citizens - most of them were derogatory.

but I know it&#039;s not a shame for you ... or for them

maybe those commentatores have also read those comments?

who should feel shame? why should people feel it towards people who hate them? it&#039;s a complex issue and you are interested in one side only. so what&#039;s the point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh Sunny, you did it again! you wrote all these comments to put the whole thing in your blog &#8211; that&#8217;s really shameful</p>
<p>speaking of shame &#8211; I have read a lot of comments made by immigrants or their children on their forums about the native citizens &#8211; most of them were derogatory.</p>
<p>but I know it&#8217;s not a shame for you &#8230; or for them</p>
<p>maybe those commentatores have also read those comments?</p>
<p>who should feel shame? why should people feel it towards people who hate them? it&#8217;s a complex issue and you are interested in one side only. so what&#8217;s the point?</p>
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		<title>By: Abdul Abbulbul Emir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abdul Abbulbul Emir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Mrs A said to me (again):

That Sunny. He&#039;s on dangerous ground with this dead immigrant mularky Abdul.

After all 5 British soldiers have just been killed when an Afghan &#039;policeman&#039; opened fire on them.

What is he going to say about that. Another rant against our paper I suppose.

(We sell millions of Daily Mails in my corner shop incidentally )

Mrs A is not to be placated Mr Sunny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Mrs A said to me (again):</p>
<p>That Sunny. He&#8217;s on dangerous ground with this dead immigrant mularky Abdul.</p>
<p>After all 5 British soldiers have just been killed when an Afghan &#8216;policeman&#8217; opened fire on them.</p>
<p>What is he going to say about that. Another rant against our paper I suppose.</p>
<p>(We sell millions of Daily Mails in my corner shop incidentally )</p>
<p>Mrs A is not to be placated Mr Sunny.</p>
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