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		<title>By: damon</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6265#comment-182695</link>
		<dc:creator>damon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Pat Harrington. 

I guess &#039;going on automatic&#039; was a pretty normal reaction for a person to have when finding themselves in the middle of such a storm. I think I would have run away backpacking to Asia or Australia under such circumstances.

I had a look at your website and it does seem a much better place to be at as a human being than being part of the old National Front. I&#039;m afraid that some of my friends from back then never got out of that dreadful mindset. I still see some of them from time to time, and it&#039;s sad that they never got over their bigotry.

Joe Pearce seems to have had a journey of sorts too. 
From that sick &#039;Bulldog&#039; stuff to some strange Catholic view of the world.

I see that Searchlight and the &#039;Socialist Unity&#039; website still have strong misgivings about your party.
And I&#039;d be concerned about any ideas of &#039;&#039;cultural isolation&#039;&#039; being maintained. 

But if the quotation from you I saw on wikipedia is really what you said (about regretting many things from your past), then that&#039;s fair enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pat Harrington. </p>
<p>I guess &#8216;going on automatic&#8217; was a pretty normal reaction for a person to have when finding themselves in the middle of such a storm. I think I would have run away backpacking to Asia or Australia under such circumstances.</p>
<p>I had a look at your website and it does seem a much better place to be at as a human being than being part of the old National Front. I&#8217;m afraid that some of my friends from back then never got out of that dreadful mindset. I still see some of them from time to time, and it&#8217;s sad that they never got over their bigotry.</p>
<p>Joe Pearce seems to have had a journey of sorts too.<br />
From that sick &#8216;Bulldog&#8217; stuff to some strange Catholic view of the world.</p>
<p>I see that Searchlight and the &#8216;Socialist Unity&#8217; website still have strong misgivings about your party.<br />
And I&#8217;d be concerned about any ideas of &#8221;cultural isolation&#8221; being maintained. </p>
<p>But if the quotation from you I saw on wikipedia is really what you said (about regretting many things from your past), then that&#8217;s fair enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Harrington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Harrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Damon

I despised Joe Pearce then and I despise him now. This is on both a political and personal basis.

To answer your second question it was all surreal. I kind of went on automatic. The more they attacked me the more I was determined they would not win. I have always hated bullying and react against anyone trying to bully me or who I see bullying someone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Damon</p>
<p>I despised Joe Pearce then and I despise him now. This is on both a political and personal basis.</p>
<p>To answer your second question it was all surreal. I kind of went on automatic. The more they attacked me the more I was determined they would not win. I have always hated bullying and react against anyone trying to bully me or who I see bullying someone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Binky</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6265#comment-182279</link>
		<dc:creator>Binky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Damon

Damon posted a link which led to another link about a by-election in Vauxhall in 1989 and there was the name of Don Milligan, whom I knew in Lancaster in the sixties and early seventies, standing as a Revolutionary Communist.

Some steadfast souls cling, and have steadfastly clung, unswervingly - indeed, incurably - to crank politics.

For them , there MUST be a Heaven rather like that depicted in Jehovah&#039;s Witness literature, but full of Marx and Engels and Trotsky and the whole gang.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Damon</p>
<p>Damon posted a link which led to another link about a by-election in Vauxhall in 1989 and there was the name of Don Milligan, whom I knew in Lancaster in the sixties and early seventies, standing as a Revolutionary Communist.</p>
<p>Some steadfast souls cling, and have steadfastly clung, unswervingly &#8211; indeed, incurably &#8211; to crank politics.</p>
<p>For them , there MUST be a Heaven rather like that depicted in Jehovah&#8217;s Witness literature, but full of Marx and Engels and Trotsky and the whole gang.</p>
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		<title>By: Sticks and stones won&#8217;t break the BNP&#8230;. &#171; Moments of Clarity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sticks and stones won&#8217;t break the BNP&#8230;. &#171; Moments of Clarity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] themselves indicted for war crimes. A typical kind-of response can be found from Sunny Hundal on Pickled Politics: Talk about shooting yourself in the foot, if that were possible even more. The BNP website has an [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] themselves indicted for war crimes. A typical kind-of response can be found from Sunny Hundal on Pickled Politics: Talk about shooting yourself in the foot, if that were possible even more. The BNP website has an [...]</p>
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		<title>By: damon</title>
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		<dc:creator>damon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick Harrinton, were you a friend of Joe Pearce too when he was editor of the YNF paper &#039;Bulldog&#039;?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Pearce#Life

I knew a few &lt;i&gt;Young National Front&lt;/i&gt; back then, and I once heard him give a speech (in Maidstone I think) where he called for US bases in the UK to be closed down, and where he made some reference to their &#039;&#039;N*g*er infested armies&#039;&#039;.

Maybe just a youthful indiscretion? 

But I&#039;d be intersted to know (seriously) what it was like for you when you encounterd all those protests by students at the Polytechnic of North London in 1984.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Harrington#Polytechnic_of_North_London_protests

I do not like your politics, but it must have been scary all the same with so many people out for your blood. I remember seeing some TV footage on the news, and it was a a Grunwicks style battle almost, between the police and the students outside the PNL building.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick Harrinton, were you a friend of Joe Pearce too when he was editor of the YNF paper &#8216;Bulldog&#8217;?<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Pearce#Life" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Pearce#Life</a></p>
<p>I knew a few <i>Young National Front</i> back then, and I once heard him give a speech (in Maidstone I think) where he called for US bases in the UK to be closed down, and where he made some reference to their &#8221;N*g*er infested armies&#8221;.</p>
<p>Maybe just a youthful indiscretion? </p>
<p>But I&#8217;d be intersted to know (seriously) what it was like for you when you encounterd all those protests by students at the Polytechnic of North London in 1984.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Harrington#Polytechnic_of_North_London_protests" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Harrington#Polytechnic_of_North_London_protests</a></p>
<p>I do not like your politics, but it must have been scary all the same with so many people out for your blood. I remember seeing some TV footage on the news, and it was a a Grunwicks style battle almost, between the police and the students outside the PNL building.</p>
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		<title>By: Adnan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adnan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least flipside does try not hide his thuggish interior unlike some of the other BNP supporters. Civil war - sheesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least flipside does try not hide his thuggish interior unlike some of the other BNP supporters. Civil war &#8211; sheesh.</p>
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		<title>By: Dalbir</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6265#comment-182223</link>
		<dc:creator>Dalbir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flipside

Yep.

Some of us remember the last time the NF tried to grab power. 

This time you&#039;ll have greater numbers to deal with, as well as more wise and experienced people. Don&#039;t think you whites have a monopoly on bravery.  Watch the world get inspired by &#039;ethnics&#039; fighting hate filled thugs against the odds in the UK.

Remember your own people started all this by invading countries trying to steal whatever they wanted from non whites. 

If the concept of karma is true then Anglo-Saxons have a lot of the bad type coming to them.

Be prepared........muah muah haha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flipside</p>
<p>Yep.</p>
<p>Some of us remember the last time the NF tried to grab power. </p>
<p>This time you&#8217;ll have greater numbers to deal with, as well as more wise and experienced people. Don&#8217;t think you whites have a monopoly on bravery.  Watch the world get inspired by &#8216;ethnics&#8217; fighting hate filled thugs against the odds in the UK.</p>
<p>Remember your own people started all this by invading countries trying to steal whatever they wanted from non whites. </p>
<p>If the concept of karma is true then Anglo-Saxons have a lot of the bad type coming to them.</p>
<p>Be prepared&#8230;&#8230;..muah muah haha!</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Generals and war ...

http://vdare.com/buchanan/091005_generals.htm

Go Pat go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Generals and war &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://vdare.com/buchanan/091005_generals.htm" rel="nofollow">http://vdare.com/buchanan/091005_generals.htm</a></p>
<p>Go Pat go!</p>
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		<title>By: Dalbir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dalbir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;we,ll see what fight the Brits have come the civil war.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yep, if that&#039;s how you want it. Besides, don&#039;t forget that there will be plenty of Brits who WONT be on the side of their more backward, deranged and hatefilled countrymen. Go ahead, drag this island back to another dark age.

Pat &#039;NF&#039; Harrington. So you think it is okay to attack and abuse &#039;Asian&#039; families do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>we,ll see what fight the Brits have come the civil war.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yep, if that&#8217;s how you want it. Besides, don&#8217;t forget that there will be plenty of Brits who WONT be on the side of their more backward, deranged and hatefilled countrymen. Go ahead, drag this island back to another dark age.</p>
<p>Pat &#8216;NF&#8217; Harrington. So you think it is okay to attack and abuse &#8216;Asian&#8217; families do you?</p>
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		<title>By: Adnan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adnan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Abdul, does BNP Central think it&#039;s &quot;black humour&quot; or a &quot;robust&quot; response ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Abdul, does BNP Central think it&#8217;s &#8220;black humour&#8221; or a &#8220;robust&#8221; response ?</p>
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		<title>By: Abdul Abbulbul Emir</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6265#comment-182200</link>
		<dc:creator>Abdul Abbulbul Emir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Mrs A was saying to me,

&#039;you know it is jolly bad thing that generals get involved in politics. We left our beloved homeland after all because of such interferings&#039;

We came to England who stopped this army rule stuff after Cromwell left&#039;.

I have to say Mr Griffin is right to robustly respond to rude military men. They started political discourse complaining of BNP support for army history.

They also illegally invaded a country very close to my own. They should shut up....

Mrs A agrees.

Peace be upon me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Mrs A was saying to me,</p>
<p>&#8216;you know it is jolly bad thing that generals get involved in politics. We left our beloved homeland after all because of such interferings&#8217;</p>
<p>We came to England who stopped this army rule stuff after Cromwell left&#8217;.</p>
<p>I have to say Mr Griffin is right to robustly respond to rude military men. They started political discourse complaining of BNP support for army history.</p>
<p>They also illegally invaded a country very close to my own. They should shut up&#8230;.</p>
<p>Mrs A agrees.</p>
<p>Peace be upon me.</p>
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		<title>By: Adnan</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6265#comment-182187</link>
		<dc:creator>Adnan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though Nick said it was &quot;black humour&quot; (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/2009/10/bnps_hang_gener.html) on comment pages e.g. daily mail article the BNP supporters who post are using the arguments such as the generals are toffs who are part of a Tory / Establishment stitch-up and that
BNP has huge support amongst ordinary soldiers. Other arguments are that the generals / politicians don&#039;t fight and send the troops into battle ill-equipped. In other words, these BNP supporters seem pretty unapologetic for those remarks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though Nick said it was &#8220;black humour&#8221; (<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/2009/10/bnps_hang_gener.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/2009/10/bnps_hang_gener.html</a>) on comment pages e.g. daily mail article the BNP supporters who post are using the arguments such as the generals are toffs who are part of a Tory / Establishment stitch-up and that<br />
BNP has huge support amongst ordinary soldiers. Other arguments are that the generals / politicians don&#8217;t fight and send the troops into battle ill-equipped. In other words, these BNP supporters seem pretty unapologetic for those remarks.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Naik</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6265#comment-182182</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Naik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The irony, of course, is that the BNP sees itself as martyrs of freedom of speech - and when the generals exercised their right, Nick Griffin responds by threatening to hang them.

This is all over the news. What a stupid stupid thing to say just days before appearing in QT. Please, give them a platform and the spotlight, and they will bring the rope and end this freak show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The irony, of course, is that the BNP sees itself as martyrs of freedom of speech &#8211; and when the generals exercised their right, Nick Griffin responds by threatening to hang them.</p>
<p>This is all over the news. What a stupid stupid thing to say just days before appearing in QT. Please, give them a platform and the spotlight, and they will bring the rope and end this freak show.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Odd, my comment above was in reference to Rumbolds statement about Muslims originally...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odd, my comment above was in reference to Rumbolds statement about Muslims originally&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Harrington</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6265#comment-182179</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat Harrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure am Billericaydicky so what?
My politics and his differ.

As to Poppies I see Brown launching an appeal today in the paper. How is it right for him (warmongering useless swine that he is) to associate himself with this and not for others. He is responsible for many of the injuries for sending soldiers out to fight with poor kit in the first place. Hypocrite!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure am Billericaydicky so what?<br />
My politics and his differ.</p>
<p>As to Poppies I see Brown launching an appeal today in the paper. How is it right for him (warmongering useless swine that he is) to associate himself with this and not for others. He is responsible for many of the injuries for sending soldiers out to fight with poor kit in the first place. Hypocrite!</p>
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		<title>By: billericaydicky</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6265#comment-182175</link>
		<dc:creator>billericaydicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the Pat Harrington @19 the former NF member and big pal of Griffin&#039;s Patrick Harrington?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the Pat Harrington @19 the former NF member and big pal of Griffin&#8217;s Patrick Harrington?</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Naik</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6265#comment-182174</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Naik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On the poppy issue, thatâ€™s fair enough. But Iâ€™ve sometimes wondered what the politics of the average drinker at a British Legion club might be when it came to things like immigration.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Whatever their views are, it doesn&#039;t make them BNP voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On the poppy issue, thatâ€™s fair enough. But Iâ€™ve sometimes wondered what the politics of the average drinker at a British Legion club might be when it came to things like immigration.</p></blockquote>
<p>Whatever their views are, it doesn&#8217;t make them BNP voters.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Naik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ravi Naik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me get this straight - so there was a great deal done when a few Islamist protesters accused the military coming from Iraq of being butchers and terrorists (something I find utterly disgusting), and now we have the BNP saying that the generals could be hanged for war crimes in Iraq?  Not sure what is worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me get this straight &#8211; so there was a great deal done when a few Islamist protesters accused the military coming from Iraq of being butchers and terrorists (something I find utterly disgusting), and now we have the BNP saying that the generals could be hanged for war crimes in Iraq?  Not sure what is worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Dalbir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dalbir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is actually great. If only we could see some of the warmongering WASPS strung up for their deception. Top of the list should be Blair and his bum-chums. England seriously needs some &quot;sharp shock&quot; to help it overcome its destructive colonial/interfering instinct. 

But truth be told, had the recent wars been swiftly won, I am sure old cross eyes would have been spinning it as another example of how the British are so superior to the rest of us uncivilised darkies. 

Turns out that the Brits are actually crap warriors now they don&#039;t have their imperial subjects to help bail them out in their bullshit wars. Ha ha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is actually great. If only we could see some of the warmongering WASPS strung up for their deception. Top of the list should be Blair and his bum-chums. England seriously needs some &#8220;sharp shock&#8221; to help it overcome its destructive colonial/interfering instinct. </p>
<p>But truth be told, had the recent wars been swiftly won, I am sure old cross eyes would have been spinning it as another example of how the British are so superior to the rest of us uncivilised darkies. </p>
<p>Turns out that the Brits are actually crap warriors now they don&#8217;t have their imperial subjects to help bail them out in their bullshit wars. Ha ha!</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Harrington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Harrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the question of Poppies I recall that a Left group got a lot of flack when they produced and sold White ones. At that time the Legion and Poppy Appeal were at pains to say that the Red Poppy was for the whole nation and the group were being divisive. Now they are attacking Nick Griffin on the basis he is wearing a Poppy! Isn&#039;t this somewhat inconsistent? Do they want everyone to support the appeal or not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the question of Poppies I recall that a Left group got a lot of flack when they produced and sold White ones. At that time the Legion and Poppy Appeal were at pains to say that the Red Poppy was for the whole nation and the group were being divisive. Now they are attacking Nick Griffin on the basis he is wearing a Poppy! Isn&#8217;t this somewhat inconsistent? Do they want everyone to support the appeal or not?</p>
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