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		<title>By: Kismet Hardy</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6195#comment-181405</link>
		<dc:creator>Kismet Hardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A little ditty for the BNP...


The True Born Englishman

Thus from a mixture of all kinds began,
That het&#039;rogeneous thing, an Englishman:
In eager rapes, and furious lust begot,
Betwixt a painted Britain and a Scot.
Whose gend&#039;ring off-spring quickly learn&#039;d to bow,
And yoke their heifers to the Roman plough:
From whence a mongrel half-bred race there came,
With neither name, nor nation, speech nor fame.
In whose hot veins new mixtures quickly ran,
Infus&#039;d betwixt a Saxon and a Dane.
While their rank daughters, to their parents just,
Receiv&#039;d all nations with promiscuous lust.
This nauseous brood directly did contain
The well-extracted blood of Englishmen.
	
Which medly canton&#039;d in a heptarchy,
A rhapsody of nations to supply,
          Among themselves maintain&#039;d eternal wars,
          And still the ladies lov&#039;d the conquerors.

          The western Angles all the rest subdu&#039;d;
          A bloody nation, barbarous and rude:
          Who by the tenure of the sword possest
          One part of Britain, and subdu&#039;d the rest
          And as great things denominate the small,
          The conqu&#039;ring part gave title to the whole.
          The Scot, Pict, Britain, Roman, Dane, submit,
          And with the English-Saxon all unite:
          And these the mixture have so close pursu&#039;d,
          The very name and memory&#039;s subdu&#039;d:
          No Roman now, no Britain does remain;
          Wales strove to separate, but strove in vain:
          The silent nations undistinguish&#039;d fall,
          And Englishman&#039;s the common name for all.
          Fate jumbled them together, God knows how;
          What e&#039;er they were they&#039;re true-born English now.

          The wonder which remains is at our pride,
          To value that which all wise men deride.
          For Englishmen to boast of generation,
          Cancels their knowledge, and lampoons the nation.
          A true-born Englishman&#039;s a contradiction,
          In speech an irony, in fact a fiction.
          A banter made to be a test of fools,
          Which those that use it justly ridicules.
          A metaphor invented to express
          A man a-kin to all the universe.

          For as the Scots, as learned men ha&#039; said,
          Throughout the world their wand&#039;ring seed ha&#039; spread;
          So open-handed England, &#039;tis believ&#039;d,
          Has all the gleanings of the world receiv&#039;d.

          Some think of England &#039;twas our Saviour meant,
          The Gospel should to all the world be sent:
          Since, when the blessed sound did hither reach,
          They to all nations might be said to preach.

          &#039;Tis well that virtue gives nobility,
          How shall we else the want of birth and blood supply?
          Since scarce one family is left alive,
          Which does not from some foreigner derive.

Daniel Defoe (1701)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little ditty for the BNP&#8230;</p>
<p>The True Born Englishman</p>
<p>Thus from a mixture of all kinds began,<br />
That het&#8217;rogeneous thing, an Englishman:<br />
In eager rapes, and furious lust begot,<br />
Betwixt a painted Britain and a Scot.<br />
Whose gend&#8217;ring off-spring quickly learn&#8217;d to bow,<br />
And yoke their heifers to the Roman plough:<br />
From whence a mongrel half-bred race there came,<br />
With neither name, nor nation, speech nor fame.<br />
In whose hot veins new mixtures quickly ran,<br />
Infus&#8217;d betwixt a Saxon and a Dane.<br />
While their rank daughters, to their parents just,<br />
Receiv&#8217;d all nations with promiscuous lust.<br />
This nauseous brood directly did contain<br />
The well-extracted blood of Englishmen.</p>
<p>Which medly canton&#8217;d in a heptarchy,<br />
A rhapsody of nations to supply,<br />
          Among themselves maintain&#8217;d eternal wars,<br />
          And still the ladies lov&#8217;d the conquerors.</p>
<p>          The western Angles all the rest subdu&#8217;d;<br />
          A bloody nation, barbarous and rude:<br />
          Who by the tenure of the sword possest<br />
          One part of Britain, and subdu&#8217;d the rest<br />
          And as great things denominate the small,<br />
          The conqu&#8217;ring part gave title to the whole.<br />
          The Scot, Pict, Britain, Roman, Dane, submit,<br />
          And with the English-Saxon all unite:<br />
          And these the mixture have so close pursu&#8217;d,<br />
          The very name and memory&#8217;s subdu&#8217;d:<br />
          No Roman now, no Britain does remain;<br />
          Wales strove to separate, but strove in vain:<br />
          The silent nations undistinguish&#8217;d fall,<br />
          And Englishman&#8217;s the common name for all.<br />
          Fate jumbled them together, God knows how;<br />
          What e&#8217;er they were they&#8217;re true-born English now.</p>
<p>          The wonder which remains is at our pride,<br />
          To value that which all wise men deride.<br />
          For Englishmen to boast of generation,<br />
          Cancels their knowledge, and lampoons the nation.<br />
          A true-born Englishman&#8217;s a contradiction,<br />
          In speech an irony, in fact a fiction.<br />
          A banter made to be a test of fools,<br />
          Which those that use it justly ridicules.<br />
          A metaphor invented to express<br />
          A man a-kin to all the universe.</p>
<p>          For as the Scots, as learned men ha&#8217; said,<br />
          Throughout the world their wand&#8217;ring seed ha&#8217; spread;<br />
          So open-handed England, &#8217;tis believ&#8217;d,<br />
          Has all the gleanings of the world receiv&#8217;d.</p>
<p>          Some think of England &#8217;twas our Saviour meant,<br />
          The Gospel should to all the world be sent:<br />
          Since, when the blessed sound did hither reach,<br />
          They to all nations might be said to preach.</p>
<p>          &#8216;Tis well that virtue gives nobility,<br />
          How shall we else the want of birth and blood supply?<br />
          Since scarce one family is left alive,<br />
          Which does not from some foreigner derive.</p>
<p>Daniel Defoe (1701)</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6195#comment-181404</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep Bonnie Greer is on the panel...should be an interesting show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep Bonnie Greer is on the panel&#8230;should be an interesting show.</p>
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		<title>By: rJames Glover</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6195#comment-206170</link>
		<dc:creator>rJames Glover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;@MsKitton Did you know that you&#039;ve been linked by Sunny over at Pickled Politics? http://bit.ly/rPJcx&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@MsKitton Did you know that you&#39;ve been linked by Sunny over at Pickled Politics? <a href="http://bit.ly/rPJcx" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/rPJcx</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: highfieldoval</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6195#comment-181402</link>
		<dc:creator>highfieldoval</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing soft about the interview at all. The girl asked the obvious questions and challenged their answers. What did people expect a slanging match?

 The listeners that are open minded are quite capable of evaluating the views expressed and making a judgment. The interviewer&#039;s job is not to peddle UAF leftwing propaganda. 

From the editors blog it seems that most had already made up their minds about the BNP anyway and most seem to be in favour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing soft about the interview at all. The girl asked the obvious questions and challenged their answers. What did people expect a slanging match?</p>
<p> The listeners that are open minded are quite capable of evaluating the views expressed and making a judgment. The interviewer&#8217;s job is not to peddle UAF leftwing propaganda. </p>
<p>From the editors blog it seems that most had already made up their minds about the BNP anyway and most seem to be in favour.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6195#comment-181397</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bill - it was you screaming and frothing last night at me on Radio 5 live wasnt it? ;-)
admit it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bill &#8211; it was you screaming and frothing last night at me on Radio 5 live wasnt it? <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
admit it!</p>
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		<title>By: bananabrain</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6195#comment-181394</link>
		<dc:creator>bananabrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it seems bonnie greer is in the frame.

b&#039;shalom

bananabrain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it seems bonnie greer is in the frame.</p>
<p>b&#8217;shalom</p>
<p>bananabrain</p>
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		<title>By: billaricaydickey</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6195#comment-181392</link>
		<dc:creator>billaricaydickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You ask questions Sunny boy, but never come up with an answer. Give us one this time you tosser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You ask questions Sunny boy, but never come up with an answer. Give us one this time you tosser.</p>
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		<title>By: Unity</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6195#comment-181384</link>
		<dc:creator>Unity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The same will happen on Question Time next week when Nick Griffin turns up and says a whole bunch of things which, in many cases, may not be true but wonâ€™t be challenged because the other panellists wonâ€™t have read up on them.&lt;/i&gt;

Not necessarily, Sunny.

QT&#039;s production teams have, in past, shown themselves to be pretty adept at stitching up unpopular panelists, as happened when they fed Otis Ferry to Tony Benn and set Stephen Green up to be double-team by Simon Hughes and Janet Street-Porter.

So far, the only thing we know is that Jack Straw will be on the panel with Griffin and, to be fair, Straw does know how to carry the fight to the BNP for as much as I might have liked to have seen Cruddas take it one.

Much depends on who the other panellists are and, particularly, on whether the Tories put up a heavyweight of their own - given Griffin&#039;s past foray into Holocaust Denial, Michael Howard wouldn&#039;t be a bad choice.

If its just a Straw v Griffin slugfest with a bunch of also rans on the panel then the also rans will just get in the way, but the other parties are also up for this and we also get a halfway decent non-politico then Griffin could easily get royally shafted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The same will happen on Question Time next week when Nick Griffin turns up and says a whole bunch of things which, in many cases, may not be true but wonâ€™t be challenged because the other panellists wonâ€™t have read up on them.</i></p>
<p>Not necessarily, Sunny.</p>
<p>QT&#8217;s production teams have, in past, shown themselves to be pretty adept at stitching up unpopular panelists, as happened when they fed Otis Ferry to Tony Benn and set Stephen Green up to be double-team by Simon Hughes and Janet Street-Porter.</p>
<p>So far, the only thing we know is that Jack Straw will be on the panel with Griffin and, to be fair, Straw does know how to carry the fight to the BNP for as much as I might have liked to have seen Cruddas take it one.</p>
<p>Much depends on who the other panellists are and, particularly, on whether the Tories put up a heavyweight of their own &#8211; given Griffin&#8217;s past foray into Holocaust Denial, Michael Howard wouldn&#8217;t be a bad choice.</p>
<p>If its just a Straw v Griffin slugfest with a bunch of also rans on the panel then the also rans will just get in the way, but the other parties are also up for this and we also get a halfway decent non-politico then Griffin could easily get royally shafted.</p>
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		<title>By: pickles</title>
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		<dc:creator>pickles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;New blog post: Why didn&#039;t Radio 1&#039;s BNPgate get highlighted earlier http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6195&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">New blog post: Why didn&#39;t Radio 1&#39;s BNPgate get highlighted earlier <a href="http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6195" rel="nofollow">http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6195</a></span></span></span></p>
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