• Family

  • Comrades

  • In-laws


  • BBC Radio 1′s BNP-gate continues


    by Sunny
    2nd October, 2009 at 11:46 am    

    The media commentator Roy Greenslade has also written about that softball Radio 1 interview with two BNP candidates. He’s planning to find out how many people complained about the interview (so do complain please!) and what the hell went wrong.
    In other news, BBC gives space to Boris Johnson on Eastenders but refused to do anything to do with Ken Livingstone. That’s sucking up to the Tories for you.

    Also: BNP ‘exploiting military charities’ as it plans to hijack poppy appeal


                  Post to del.icio.us


    Filed in: Media,Race politics






    59 Comments below   |  

    Reactions: Twitter, blogs
    1. pickles

      New blog post: BBC Radio 1′s BNP-gate continues http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6072


    2. Will Cameron

      RT @pickledpolitics: BBC Radio 1′s BNP-gate continues http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6072 [Complained, get reply in 10 days]




    1. Abdul Abulbul Emir — on 2nd October, 2009 at 1:01 pm  

      Well old fruit.
      It is a sad reflection on our times.
      As I was saying to Mrs A the other day

      ‘these leftlib luvvie duvvies. Now they are losing out in the scheme of things, they won’t go quietly. The gravy train has run out and there is no more money for multi-cult luxury’

      All this squawking about BNP is bad form now they have 2 MEPs you know.

      Mrs A agrees

      Peace be upon me.

    2. Morrigan — on 2nd October, 2009 at 1:15 pm  

      Sunny, what a change in tune!

      I think you should put a new sticker on your blogs now saying:

      ‘I DON’T TRUST THE BBC (BUT THEY WERE FINE WHILE LABOUR WERE IN POWER)’!

    3. Kismet Hardy — on 2nd October, 2009 at 1:19 pm  

      You’ve really got a beeb in your bonnet over this Morrigan, haven’t ya? I’m pretty sure Sunny ‘remember giving blow-jobs to blow-up dolls is a bad idea’ Hundal didn’t swear an oath of allegiance to the BBC for all eternity. If someone you trust in suddenly starts displaying questionable ethics, it’s quite logical to re-evaluate that trust, no?

    4. Morrigan — on 2nd October, 2009 at 1:35 pm  

      Fair enough. I’m always surprised when Sunny doesn’t swear….

      The sudden change of heart looks a bit desperate, but then my expectations shouldn’t be so high from a guy who apparently owns inflatable male dolls.

    5. Sunny — on 2nd October, 2009 at 2:00 pm  

      Do you own blow up dolls Morrigan? It’s not something yo should mention openly you know.

      I think the BBC is right-wing. Hence my problem.

    6. Col Blooknokk (ex M15) — on 2nd October, 2009 at 2:03 pm  

      Do you own blow up dolls Morrigan.

      Never take a black one home with you Sunny old chap.

      Bloodnokk
      The Bunker
      Hindhead

    7. Roger — on 2nd October, 2009 at 4:27 pm  

      “BBC gives space to Boris Johnson on Eastenders”

      Surely they recognise Johnson’s natural habitat: an absurd and unconvincing soap opera.

    8. dave bones — on 2nd October, 2009 at 4:29 pm  

      hypothetically there is a hypothetical link on incurable hippies blog here (which is also making its way round fuckface)

    9. Kismet Hardy — on 2nd October, 2009 at 4:33 pm  

      Nice one dave. I called the number from my mobile and left it on to go for a smoke but I’ve come back to find my entire £10 top-up for the week has gone. It better had cost the BNP a lot more than £10.

    10. Nick Seacole Griffin — on 2nd October, 2009 at 4:47 pm  

      And thank you again, Sunny, for the last link you gave: “BNP exploiting …”

      It takes us to a piece in the venerable but now Murdochoid* TIMES and to the e-mail responses to it, many of which are along the lines of

      “I don’t really much like the racism of the BNP but they’re the only political party which doesn’t hate and despise the British people and which is in favour of an immediate pullout from Iraq and Afghanistan …”

      * Murdochoid: owned or influenced by the lowest-common-denominator style of the Dirty Digger

    11. Shatterface — on 2nd October, 2009 at 5:21 pm  

      Listened to The News Quiz on Friday. Sandy Toksvig as hose, Jeremy Hardy, Mark Steel, Andy Hamilton and Karl Marx’s biographer Francis Wheel as panelists. So right-wing I thought they’d be burning cruciffixes at any moment.

      Sunny, having little sense of humour, is probably unaware of the BBC’s comedy output.

    12. Shatterface — on 2nd October, 2009 at 5:23 pm  

      Toksvig as ‘host’, that is. I’ll leave it uncorrected though in the hope someone posts it in and I get a mention.

    13. marie-odile — on 2nd October, 2009 at 5:24 pm  

      Could we get Katie Couric to interview the BNP instead?

    14. Shatterface — on 2nd October, 2009 at 5:35 pm  

      “BBC gives space to Boris Johnson on Eastenders”

      They also did an all Black episode a few months back.

      ‘I think the BBC is right-wing. Hence my problem.’

      Well that’s a start: the first step on the toad to recovery is admitting you have a problem.

    15. DisgustedOfTunbridgeWells — on 2nd October, 2009 at 5:40 pm  

      Fucking hell, the bbc supports the far right, what a shocker.

      Maybe piss weak establishment liberals will wake up and stop treating it like their first born.

    16. flipside — on 2nd October, 2009 at 5:59 pm  
    17. Joan Walters — on 3rd October, 2009 at 11:30 am  

      Because of the BNP interview I tuned into Radio 1 for the very first time (I normally listen to Radio 4) and was appalled by the sheer banality and unmusical noise which passes for “music” on this channel. I have since complained to the BBC not about having the BNP on, but about the fact that if millions of people are listening to this noisy, unmusical, distracting rubbishy “music” whilst working, driving etc it will most likely create a bad outcome in terms of psychological damage to their concentration, thought processes and general mental well being. That’s the problem with multiracialism and multiculturalism – the importation of alien concepts of what passes for music (especially African), concepts which are totally different and incompatible with our western European stadards of music. I guess a BNP government would re introduce music as a compulsary subject in school and educate young people into the joys of classical European music and the dangers of pop “music”.

    18. persephone — on 3rd October, 2009 at 1:27 pm  

      ” concepts which are totally different and incompatible with our western European stadards of music. I guess a BNP government would re introduce music as a compulsary subject in school and educate young people into the joys of classical European music and the dangers of pop “music”.”

      You mean like this example of BNP sonata Joan?:-

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cACfVGnMLJo

      I think compulsory spelling tests should be brought in too ….actually it already is…

    19. Sunny — on 3rd October, 2009 at 4:13 pm  

      Joan – haha! nice one

      Maybe piss weak establishment liberals will wake up and stop treating it like their first born.

      I agree.

    20. persephone — on 3rd October, 2009 at 7:24 pm  

      Will TV audiences recover from this? Y’know seeing two blonde bouffants competing for the same screen space.

      Yep get out those wide screens if you want to see Boris and Peggie Mitchell

      Ken Livingstone just didn’t have the right hair, see

    21. damon — on 4th October, 2009 at 10:06 am  

      I heard Ken wanted to talk politics on Eastenders and that’s why they didn’t have him on.
      He was (apparently) going to talk about green issues and be telling the regulars in the Queen Vic about the importance of recycling and cutting carbon emmisions.

    22. damon — on 4th October, 2009 at 11:25 am  

      I don’t want to misquote what Sunny said, but remember him saying how he had objected to the visit of Narendra Modi at an event in Wembley a few years ago, because of Modi’s complicity in the 2002 Gujarat violence, and that when things were wrong you had to speak out against them.
      And that what has happened in Guantanamo was wrong and needed to be opposed.

      Something like that, and it was a point well made I thought (even if I still can’t get too worked up about the current plight of the Guantanamo detainees).

      The names of all the prisoners were writen out on cards and these were handed to the people there to hold up. I wasn’t holding one, and a man asked me why not. I said I was just there to listen.

      I didn’t tell him this, but didn’t want to, as I wouldn’t know who the person named on the card I was holding was. The only one I know by name is Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and even though I think it was wrong to waterboard him so much (183 times) I wouldn’t want to be holding up his name outside parialment.

    23. douglas clark — on 4th October, 2009 at 11:32 am  

      Well, at least you were there damon. So, not a fundamental change of mind then?

      Waterboarding someone
      once is OK, is it?

      Fuck me!

    24. damon — on 4th October, 2009 at 11:47 am  

      Oops, wrong thread. This is obviously about the thing in Parliament Square yesterday.
      I’m not completely against torture. It depends on who it’s being done to and by whoom.
      I’m mostly against it, but I probably share the view of most of humanity on this issue. And my liberalism is somewhat frayed around the edges.

    25. Babara — on 4th October, 2009 at 4:44 pm  
    26. Joan Walters — on 4th October, 2009 at 4:49 pm  

      persephone – I deliberately made a spelling mistake in the anticipation that you would waste no time in showing us what a small minded, trivial, childish non entity you are. Picking on such small details is a typical get out for people who cannot face up and defeat an argument in a logical way. Why anyone would want to stay on this website is a mystery – perhaps you are a brown or black skinned, smelly alien yourself….yes I think so. Go back to your land of ancestry, take Sunny and all the other darkies, and leave us alone.

    27. douglas clark — on 4th October, 2009 at 5:00 pm  

      Joan Walters,

      deliberately made a spelling mistake in the anticipation that you would waste no time in showing us what a small minded, trivial, childish non entity you are. Picking on such small details is a typical get out for people who cannot face up and defeat an argument in a logical way. Why anyone would want to stay on this website is a mystery – perhaps you are a brown or black skinned, smelly alien yourself….yes I think so. Go back to your land of ancestry, take Sunny and all the other darkies, and leave us alone.

      Fuck off.

      ________________________________________________

      Sunny and Persephone are more my chums than you will ever be.

    28. chairwoman — on 4th October, 2009 at 5:33 pm  

      “perhaps you are a brown or black skinned, smelly alien yourself….yes I think so. Go back to your land of ancestry, take Sunny and all the other darkies, and leave us alone.”

      Smelly? Smelly? I suggest you get on a bus or train filled with the indigenous population and see how fragrant they are. Unwashed people smell bad, and there are those in every ethnic group, even yours.

      I am assuming from your old fashioned use of English that you’re elderly. In that case you must be wondering what awaits you on the other side. Isn’t meeting Jesus, a non-white, and like me a Jew to boot going to be a bit of a problem for you?

      Just off for another shower, having communicated ith you, I think I need one

    29. Don — on 4th October, 2009 at 6:54 pm  

      I deliberately made a spelling mistake…

      Sure you did.

      And you seem to think that calling someone brown and smelly is to defeat an argument in a logical way.

      Why anyone would want to stay on this website is a mystery. So what are you doing here, troll?

      CW may be right and you may be elderly, but I’m not inclined to cut you any slack for that.

      @Sunny #19,

      You thought she was being ironic, didn’t you?

    30. Ravi Naik — on 4th October, 2009 at 7:14 pm  

      the importation of alien concepts of what passes for music (especially African), concepts which are totally different and incompatible with our western European stadards of music. I guess a BNP government would re introduce music as a compulsary subject in school and educate young people into the joys of classical European music and the dangers of pop “music”.

      Uhm… a nationalist regime dictating what is good art and degenerate art… where did I heard that before?

    31. persephone — on 4th October, 2009 at 7:19 pm  

      Ok Joan lets tackle this your way. Heres some logic:

      If I am a nonentity (common useage is no space) then why do you feel such vitriol and difference? As a nonentity it doesn’t matter if I should stay or go – which reminds me of
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZBPu7jJbJU

      As to being brown or black skinned or a smelly alien.

      I am not brown, black or green and aliens do not exist (well not proven).

      I do smell of perfumed soap – logically, if that smell is alien to you suggest you get a bath. Bad hygiene can be due to low self esteem y’know.

    32. Joan Walters — on 5th October, 2009 at 10:11 am  

      Ah ah! stirred you faggots up!

      Douglas Clark – no points for you – your vocab. is far too limited (“Fuck off”) – you lose.

      Chairwoman – no points for ageism – you lose (also, I note you are a Jew – you deserve it! Anyone for gas chambers?)

      Don – I give you 1 out of 10 for effort.

      Ravi Naik – how would YOU know what western music is?

      persephone – that you should think “alien” means ET, I reckon you must be about 14 or 15 years old. Non entities are still worth winding up – they deserve it!!

    33. persephone — on 5th October, 2009 at 11:32 am  

      “persephone – that you should think “alien” means ET, I reckon you must be about 14 or 15 years old.”

      Joan, amongst other things, you are not very good with the use of the English language if you think I only used alien in one context @31. How childish and meagre your life must be to make comments with the purpose being to ‘wind up’ people. Perhaps you are judging others thresholds by your own low understanding.

      It would take much more. Because Asians have faced more racism than a mere few words on a blog and the Jewish people have faced the Holocaust. Going through these things has made us stronger in fact.

    34. chairwoman — on 5th October, 2009 at 12:05 pm  

      “Chairwoman – no points for ageism – you lose (also, I note you are a Jew – you deserve it! Anyone for gas chambers?)”

      Hardly ageist, you’re not very observant are you? As for the gas chambers, after you.

    35. Joan Walters — on 6th October, 2009 at 8:19 am  

      persephone – you mention the Jews and their holocaust – are you ref. to the story that 6m Jews were gassed, as often quoted in the media? Here’s a challenge for you and anyone else who believes in the gas chambers: can you show me any documentary evidence for the existence of homicidal gas chambers? I mean photos of them in use, plans for their construction, reliable and corroborated witness statements (and not “confessions” extracted under torture), evidence of cyanide residues in human remains or in the walls of the alleged “gas chambers”? If you can I would be most interested. I await with baited breath

    36. cjcjc — on 6th October, 2009 at 8:23 am  

      I thought Joan’s point at 17 was quite entertaining, as I too am appalled by the banality of such music.

      Since then she has rather gone downhill…

    37. bananabrain — on 6th October, 2009 at 8:54 am  

      oy, holocaust denier. perhaps you’d like to explain this to my wife’s father and uncle, whose entire family were murdered before their eyes. they were in auschwitz. they saw the gas chambers and they saw what happened. they saw their parents, grandparents, uncles and aunts – and their 8-year old sister, for whom my wife is named, go off to be killed.

      you are a disgrace to the name of human being.

      b’shalom

      bananabrain

    38. Joan Walters — on 6th October, 2009 at 4:27 pm  

      bananabrain – why should I believe you on such a vital issue? Who are YOU?

    39. bananabrain — on 6th October, 2009 at 4:34 pm  

      obviously, i’m someone who would lie about their own family to fake a genocide.

      you stupid, stupid, stupid individual.

      bananabrain

    40. Rumbold — on 6th October, 2009 at 4:54 pm  

      Should Joan be deleted or left up as an example?

    41. bananabrain — on 6th October, 2009 at 4:57 pm  

      no, leave her up. you wouldn’t believe anyone could be so vile unless you could see it for yourself.

      b’shalom

      bananabrain

    42. Rumbold — on 6th October, 2009 at 4:57 pm  

      Okay. That was my inclination, but I just wanted to check with the regulars.

    43. Sunny — on 6th October, 2009 at 5:20 pm  

      bloody hell, I thought this ‘joan walters’ was joking – but she / he really is a crackpot.

      leave up the comments, but if she starts invading other threads and trolling – just delete.

    44. Don — on 6th October, 2009 at 6:32 pm  

      #35

      Bated breath, bated.
      Unless your breath actually smells of bait, the word is bated.

      You may indeed be, as b’brain says, a stupid, vile disgrace of a human being but at least try to use the language correctly.

      I mean, what could ‘baited breath’ even mean? It would be nonsense. Words matter, show some respect. And don’t pretend you did that on purpose.

    45. Joan Walters — on 7th October, 2009 at 9:14 am  

      Don – I included “bait” in my breath as a means of drawing out nonsense – simply a “bait” – and I see it has worked. But what it hasn’t brought out is any sensible reply to my question regarding documentary proof for the gas chambers. Am I to understand that the gas chamber part of the holocaust has to be treated like much of the Bible and Christianity ie to be believed as an act of FAITH, no proof required? A new religion – Holocaustianity – to prop up the New World Order?

      Why does asking simple questions make one “a stupid, vile disgrace of a human being”?

    46. bananabrain — on 7th October, 2009 at 9:29 am  

      well, if simple questions are what we’re asking, how about “what really happened to my wife’s family, when the nazis selected the women and marched them off towards the large chimneys with smoke coming out of them?”

      six million jews and many others died in the holocaust. obviously not every single one died in a gas chamber, many were shot, starved, beaten, gassed in vans, died of typhoid, dysentery, neglect and horrific medical experiments, but apart from sick fools like yourself, this is plenty to go on. how about looking up what a “sonderkommando” was and then reading some of their testimony?

      http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=sonderkommando+testimony&meta=&aq=0&oq=sonderkommando+testi

      this should be helpful too:

      http://lipstadt.blogspot.com/2007/12/testimony-from-sonderkommando-who.html

      yes, that deborah lipstadt, the one who proved david irving was a liar in court.

      b’shalom

      bananabrain

    47. persephone — on 7th October, 2009 at 9:56 am  

      bananabrain

      I went to the holocaust museum in washington when on holiday. Seeing the mounds of spectacles, teeth mined for gold, childrens shoes was really shocking and was imprinted on my memory.

      It made me wonder what is the motive behind such denial.

    48. Noor the abducted — on 7th October, 2009 at 10:49 am  
    49. Noor the abducted — on 7th October, 2009 at 10:50 am  
    50. Noor the abducted — on 7th October, 2009 at 10:55 am  
    51. douglas clark — on 7th October, 2009 at 11:04 am  

      On the slightly broader story of Halocaust denial:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial

    52. douglas clark — on 7th October, 2009 at 11:24 am  

      On the slightly broader story of Halocaust denial:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial

      There is a common patholgy between people who believe in Holocaust denial, Climate Change denial and 9/11 truthers, etc, etc. They all believe that we are being lied to. They also believe that they have found a ‘smoking gun’ that proves their case. Contrary evidence is either completely ignored or trashed. They also all seem to have a complete faith that any or each of these beliefs have behind them some sort of shadowy super-conspiracy, usually, but not exclusively, Zionist or New World Order in nature.

      It is all a bit sad, because usually scepticism is a good thing to have. But like any other way of approaching reality that only matches tangentially with that reality, some lose their bearings completely.

      It should be noted also, that for some, the conspiracy industry provides a lucrative career.

    53. douglas clark — on 7th October, 2009 at 11:24 am  

      On the slightly broader story of Halocaust denial:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial

      There is a common patholgy between people who believe in Holocaust denial, Climate Change denial and 9/11 truthers, etc, etc. They all believe that we are being lied to. They also believe that they have found a ‘smoking gun’ that proves their case. Contrary evidence is either completely ignored or trashed. They also all seem to have a complete faith that any or each of these beliefs have behind them some sort of shadowy super-conspiracy, usually, but not exclusively, Zionist or New World Order in nature.

      It is all a bit sad, because usually scepticism is a good thing to have. But like any other way of approaching reality that only matches tangentially with that reality, some lose their bearings completely.

      It should be noted also, that for some, the conspiracy industry provides a lucrative career.

    54. Joan Walters — on 7th October, 2009 at 8:01 pm  

      “large chimneys with smoke coming out of them” are not homicidal gas chambers. No matter how much bullshit is produced on this topic, there’s still no documentary evidence for mass gassings which would succeed in getting a conviction in a UK court, so stop going on about it. Stalin’s Gulags – now there’s plenty of proof there, but nobody cares becos Jews were not the victims…..I’ve had enough of you people, so I’m off!

    55. douglas clark — on 7th October, 2009 at 9:02 pm  

      Joan,

      Byeee!

    56. Noor the abducted — on 7th October, 2009 at 10:07 pm  
    57. douglas clark — on 7th October, 2009 at 10:31 pm  

      Noor,

      I can do this, just posting a link and remaining silent on what we are supposed to make of it, just as well as you.

      I am not going to play a game of you posting something and me finding the counter arguement. It is just too wearying.

      If you have anything intelligent to say, say it.

    Sorry, the comment form is closed at this time.

    Pickled Politics © Copyright 2005 - 2010. All rights reserved. Terms and conditions.
    With the help of PHP and Wordpress.