Richard Barnbrook found guilty


by Rumbold
25th September, 2009 at 10:36 am    

Richard Barnbrook, the BNP’s sole representative on the Greater London Assembly, has been found guilty of inventing three murders in order to spread fear amongst his constituents:

“The BNP representative is to be sent for training in ethics after he exploited peoples fears about knife crime in his constituency by inventing a series of murders. He was banned from B&D council today but escaped suspension from the Greater London Authority.

The BNP, however, are furious and Simon Darby has called the decision, “utterly vile hypocrisy”. The party are using the Baroness Scotland’s ”outrageous whoppers” to help deflect attention away from Barnbrooks own conduct. Lee Barnes, the BNP’s legal director and advisor to Richard Barnbrook, has said that the decision taken by B&D council will be appealed.”

Richard Barnbrook did lie about this. But we mustn’t forget that there are actually people in Barking and Dagenham who carry blades, and think nothing of posing for pictures with them.

Sir Richard

(Thanks once again to 5cc for the image)


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  1. damon — on 25th September, 2009 at 11:40 am  

    I was listening to ex Tory MP David Mellor talking about this yesterday on a radio programme he was hosting.
    He was talking to a reporter on the phone who was down at this hearing, and the reporter gave the information as this:

    The murder of one young woman from Barking and Dagenham had actually occured in the neighbouring borough of Newham.

    And that the other two that he refers to were not murders, but attempted murders with the victims being seriously wounded.

    Mellor made the point that as much as he was against the BNP, if the same rigour for accuracy was applied to all people in politics, there wouldn’t be many who would have escaped this kind of censure.

    Is it like getting Al Capone on his taxes when he couldn’t be brought to justice for his other crimes?

  2. 5cc — on 25th September, 2009 at 12:28 pm  

    “Is it like getting Al Capone on his taxes when he couldn’t be brought to justice for his other crimes?”

    Not really. The police confirmed that there had been no serious incidents with knives at all in the timescale we’re on about. The idea that there were attempted murders that put people in intensive care that were never reported to the police is closer to the ‘absurd’ end of the ‘plausible-absurd continuum’ I just made up in my head. The burden of proof is on Barnbrook to show these actually happened.

    Plus – Barnbrook previously admitted that he’d known the information was false when he said it (but changed his tune since) and he didn’t bother deleting the video for around four months after it was shown to be wrong.

  3. Abdul Abulbul Emir — on 25th September, 2009 at 12:58 pm  

    I was just browsing through the latest talent on the Baroness Scotland Overseas Temp Agency website when I heard this appalling news.

    I mean A POLITICIAN TELLING LIES for Allah’s sake.

    Some of us came to this country because of its reputation for the honesty and non corruption of its officials and politicians let me tell you.

    What are they going to think in the old country when I tell them of one R Barnbrook.

    I am most disappointed.

    Peace be upon me.

  4. Reza — on 25th September, 2009 at 1:51 pm  

    Guilty!

    Of exaggerating facts and bending the truth.

    In mitigation, wasn’t he highlighting a legitimate and real issue?

    But a politician lying! Whatever next?

    And the sentence: A day of ‘ethics’ training and a missed meeting.

    Clearly one hell of a crime. I’m waiting for the CNN coverage and Obama’s statement.

    I dislike the BNP but gleefully hopping up and down over something as pathetic as this demonstrates a real scraping of the bottom of the barrel from the anti-fascist brigade.

    Why don’t they try attacking them on policy?

    That’s right. Because any policy discussion would expose the anti-fascists as being every bit as extreme as the BNP.

  5. 5cc — on 25th September, 2009 at 2:10 pm  

    “Of exaggerating facts and bending the truth.”

    Nope – of inventing the facts, admitting to doing so and failing to retract claims for months after.

    “Why don’t they try attacking them on policy?”

    See above.

  6. Reza — on 25th September, 2009 at 3:25 pm  

    5cc

    Barnbrook is a cretin.

    His lie was stupid and unnecessary, as he could have made his point just as effectively using real knife-crime statistics.

    After all, it is an irrefutable fact that the overwhelming majority of knife-crimes are perpetrated by young black men. So ultimately, he didn’t actually mislead anyone on the actual issue. Certainly not to any great extent.

    I hate to get into moral equivilism, but isn’t it much worse when our ‘respectable’ politicians twist the truth in order to deliberately mislead the public on an important issue?

    And where can I find an example of anti fascists challenging the BNP on policy? In particular their immigration policy?

  7. douglas clark — on 25th September, 2009 at 3:39 pm  

    Reza,

    You could try looking through this:

    http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/4889

  8. Sunny — on 25th September, 2009 at 3:42 pm  

    I hate to get into moral equivilism,

    Funny Reza, that when it comes to Muslims you accuse others of doing that.. but when it comes to the BNP…

  9. DisgustedOfTunbridgeWells — on 25th September, 2009 at 3:48 pm  

    There is no ‘immigration policy’ there’s only globalization policy and the bnp (along with a lot of their alleged voters) take full advantage of all the trappings of globalization.

    Ergo, there’s no requirement to challenge them.

  10. 5cc — on 25th September, 2009 at 4:23 pm  

    Reza:

    “After all, it is an irrefutable fact that the overwhelming majority of knife-crimes are perpetrated by young black men.”

    But none of the things Barnbrook is accused of has anything to do with young black men at all.

    It’s funny how quickly we shift to talking about black people, just like the commenter on my blog. As I said in a comment there:

    “That was, of course, at least part of the point of Barnbrook ever latching on to the Great Tabloid Knifecrime Moral Panic of 2008 in the first place. That’s why his post ‘Blame the immigrants’ (since deleted) existed at all, and why he later called for a ban on the Notting Hill Carnival in the delightfully and definitely-not-racist-guvnor headlined ‘Smile – we’ve all just been mugged‘.”

    Nice to see it’s not just me who spotted the dog-whistling in Barnbrook’s activities.

    “And where can I find an example of anti fascists challenging the BNP on policy? In particular their immigration policy?”

    You can start here, from ,er, me (although I’m not a member of any anti-fascist organisation): BNP Immigration policy – something tells me it’s not just about immigrants

    Of course, part of the problem with addressing BNP policy directly is that it’s so wonderfully vague. Why, it’s almost as if it’s deliberate.

  11. Reza — on 25th September, 2009 at 5:48 pm  

    dougla clark

    Thanks for the link. I have read it before. And yes, I’ll be the first to admit that is a far better way of challenging the BNP than anti-democratic and counter-productive ‘no-platform’ policies or screaming “Naaahzi!” at them.

    5cc

    I haven’t had time yet to digest your link, but in a quick reading it also looks like a worthwhile and effective way of discrediting them.

    My point in all of this is that the BNP won’t be defeated by baying ‘anti-fascists’, ad hominem attacks, pathetic smear campaigns and worse, downright lies or denial of inconvenient truths about multiculturalism and integration

    These tactics only give the BNP a credibility they don’t deserve.

    Sunny

    Fair point. But in my defense, I did say “I hate to get into moral equivilism…” which weakened that point somewhat.

  12. Sunny — on 25th September, 2009 at 6:13 pm  

    or denial of inconvenient truths about multiculturalism and integration

    These tactics only give the BNP a credibility they don’t deserve.

    Well actually, the BNP sound remarkable to you on those issue. So I’m not surprised you want to separate that from the abstract concept that is the BNP. What do you think drives those people to be racist? Are brown people to blame?

  13. douglas clark — on 25th September, 2009 at 6:46 pm  

    Reza @ 11,

    Thanks for the link. I have read it before. And yes, I’ll be the first to admit that is a far better way of challenging the BNP than anti-democratic and counter-productive ‘no-platform’ policies or screaming “Naaahzi!” at them.

    Good.

    I have the greatest admiration for everyone who put that together.

  14. douglas clark — on 25th September, 2009 at 6:52 pm  

    Before it completely does my nut in, could someone explain, in very simple terms, for I am a bear with no brain, why Reza says moral equivalism, when I think she means moral relativism?

    I am genuinely struggling….

  15. damon — on 25th September, 2009 at 8:17 pm  

    I’m pretty sure I heard that (so called) journalist talking to David Mellor on the radio yesterday, say it how I said it in post 1. Maybe he should be suspended too, for his lack of professionalism.
    There would have been tens of thousands of Londoners listening to that LBC radio show yesterday afternoon.

    But I know that even if Barnbrook had been factually correct and there had been three murders in Barking and Dagenham like he talked about, the line is that this is really no big deal. Crime is on the way down, and anyone who makes too much of a fuss about this knife crime is falling for the sensationalism that Tory MP Chris Grayling did recently.

  16. Andy — on 3rd November, 2009 at 1:20 am  

    When will Gordon Brown ever tell the truth…. just once?

  17. Andy — on 5th November, 2009 at 8:59 pm  

    Why are the police now walking the streets in areas that have high knife and gun crime areas with machine guns? Before you pick fault with my description. 800 rounds per minute is a machine gun in my book. They use dum-dum (“hollow tipped”) bullets.. Banned by NATO. All this came to be since the time this thread was started..

    Even if Barnbrook told a deliberate or a mistaken Blarney. Does it really matter? People are still dying.
    Nonetheless, 5% of a “type” cause 58% of these crimes.

    That is unavoidable.

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