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  • More clashes in Birmingham (video)

    by Sunny
    7th September, 2009 at 12:00 am    

    The video is by the Birmingham Mail, and gives some illustration to what happened in Brum over the weekend. A few points occur to me:
    1) Looks like the UAF / Salma Yaqoob crowd has lost control over the ‘counter-protest’ people. Rather than letting them vent and ignoring them, we now have a situation where the idiot EDL people will keep painting themselves as victims of gang-members. So far the blame for the fighting has been mostly attributed to the EDL. But one wrong incident and one stupid fight and this whole escalation can blow up in the face of the anti-fascist movement. I’m not happy with the way it’s progressing.

    2) Looks like the EDL louts are also determined to start a fight every time. Perhaps the police is justified in banning demonstrations in Luton - especially in the name of public order. Rumbold has already written about the crazy leadership of the EDL. While I don’t want to see their right to a peaceful protest stifled, it doesn’t look on video that they’re interested in peace.

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    1. douglas clark — on 7th September, 2009 at 6:31 am  

      While I don’t want to see their right to a peaceful protest stifled, it doesn’t look on video that they’re interested in peace.


    2. Boyo — on 7th September, 2009 at 7:02 am  

      Twas front page lead of some Italian papers. Interesting to see how these things are perceived.

    3. Boyo — on 7th September, 2009 at 7:22 am  

      ‘Some with bulldogs…” shurely “pitballs”?

      They look like classic thugs to me - this could replace football hooliganism: the traditional aggression of the British versus the readiness of Muslim lads for a bundle. It could be like the 70s all over except shopping malls replacing football stadiums.

      Reminds me of later Quatermass.

    4. Boyo — on 7th September, 2009 at 7:46 am  

      I note Jackie Ashley in the Guardian has begun to wake up…

      “But the country will be seen to have taken a strong and decisive move to the right. David Cameron’s period of soft-Blairite reassurance will be a half-forgotten footnote. Look at the most powerful thinking among today’s Tories on the alleged iniquity of the EU, or the need to slash the size of the state. An important article by the former BBC staffer Dennis Sewell in the Spectator calls for a slaughter of “sinister” quangos stuffed with Labour supporters, members and fellow travellers to prevent “a guerrilla insurgency” against the new Tory rule. Welcome to the new world.”

      I suspect the antics of the EDL et al will only feel as one with the rest of the disintegrating (quite an interesting word that) UK…

    5. Ger Francis — on 7th September, 2009 at 9:09 am  

      Not for the first time Sunny displays his ignorance of the facts, not that it appears to bother him. UAF deliberately did not call a counter demo and Salma Yaqoob was not there. However if fascists want to turn up in Birmingham, some people are going to turn up to oppose them, irrespective of what anybody says to the contrary.

      Talk Sport journalist Adrian Goldberg’s has the most accurate and up to date account of the EDL protest and events surrounding it on his website:

      Overall the situation is now playing much more favourably for anti-fascists, with growing fire in the city being directed where it should be: at the racist agenda of the EDL.

    6. camilla — on 7th September, 2009 at 2:45 pm  

      I saw it on my country’s national television

      you know Sunny, even from Russia there I live, it doesn’t look like Salma Yaqoob “anti-fascist” gang is interested in peace

      come on, it isn’t even funny yet “they are peaceful, they are anti-fascists, but they had been provoked bla bla bla”

      provoked to insult Bible and scream dity words?

      you can provoke person to show only what is inside him

    7. Andrea — on 7th September, 2009 at 5:07 pm  

      Talk about blackening someone’s name for the sake of it!

      I used to like your forhtright views and journalism Sunny but nowadays everything you write is trigger-happy and personal. So we all know you don’t like Salma Yaqoob but what the hell has she got to do with this demo?

      She wasn’t even there and the UAF didn’t have a counter-demo.

      Shoddy lazy journalism indeed. I’m surprised you didn’t just write about this event using facts floating around in your head from 2000′s summer Bradford riots. I mean, who cares anyway huh, as long as you get your point across, right? (!)

    8. Boyo — on 7th September, 2009 at 5:28 pm  

      Apparently the trouble was whipped up by Birmingham central mosque.

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