Glen Jenvey confesses to faking terror story


by Rumbold
20th August, 2009 at 3:31 pm    

Glen Jenvey, the disgraced former ‘security expert’ who lied about Muslims drawing up a hit list of prominent Jews, has now admitted what the rest of us long suspected: that he faked the offending comments himself (in a posting on Ummah.com):

“Brother i’m sorry for the Allan Sugar story plant. I’m retired now from spying on Muslims. I saw a chance to install fear back in Jews who were killing Muslims.I was wrong to use you and your site.If you need any thing to help you in any way in the name of Allah just ask.

But yes the Sun did not know who posted it.I say sorry to you from my heart. if you want show the police and get me arrested. but with the first ramadaam coming i want to clear my past sin’s before i start my fasting and pray.

I would write this on your forum but im blocked out. may Allah reward you for your good work you do.Ameen

Omar Hamza Jenvey

aka

Glen Jenvey”

Richard Bartholomew has verified that the message did come from Glen Jenvey, aka Omar Hamza Jenvey.


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  1. Sofia — on 20th August, 2009 at 3:40 pm  

    Bonkers!

  2. BenSix — on 20th August, 2009 at 4:26 pm  

    His newest writings include anti-semitism…

    “…the Jews have put the Palestinian people in prison and bomb them when they like.”

    Support for (unspecified) Lockerbie bombers…

    “…a small brave group of men in secret circles returned the American attack on a passenger plane with the attack’s on Lockerbie.”

    And praise for Osama Bin Laden…

    “Osama Bin Laden is to be awarded with membership to the PGGC like Hannah with the PGCC highest reward for his work fighting for Muslims around the world…”

    Source: http://www.google.com/profiles/omarhamzajenvey

  3. Sunny — on 20th August, 2009 at 4:31 pm  

    The more amazing thing is that the country’s largest newspapers splashed front page with this story – happy to basically smear all Muslims, without even checking it out properly.

    And unless people like Tim Ireland and others had started chasing this story up people would have bought it no problems.

  4. Dalbir — on 20th August, 2009 at 4:56 pm  

    Wow! I bet that will probably tip a few more over to the Muslim conspiracy theorists who believe that their religion is being campaigned against.

    If I was Muslim I would be like “WT MEGA F” right now.

  5. Random Guy — on 20th August, 2009 at 5:02 pm  

    Dalbir, that would be an accurate reading of the situation. I don’t know if Jenvey is bi-polar, batty, or still has some kind of kooky agenda…

  6. Gridlock — on 20th August, 2009 at 5:25 pm  

    Anti-semitism? Is that facetious? Because, umm, it’s kinda true…

    I can’t decide whether he’s truly gone the convert route or whether he’s trying for a SURPRISE! I WAS A SEKRIT SPY ALL ALONG! angle.

    I suspect the former – it’s a short step from Walter Mitty to Religious Zealot.

  7. BenSix — on 20th August, 2009 at 5:30 pm  

    Gridlock…

    “Anti-semitism? Is that facetious? Because, umm, it’s kinda true…”

    Attributing actions to “the Jews” is anti-semitic, yes.

  8. Gridlock — on 20th August, 2009 at 5:44 pm  

    So Israel isn’t the Jewish homeland?

    That’ll be news to Tel Aviv…

    The joys of Angry Sky Fairies…

  9. Don — on 20th August, 2009 at 5:57 pm  

    Gridlock,

    Israeli =/= Jewish
    Jewish =/= Israeli

    They are not interchangeable terms.

    Simple enough for you?

  10. damon — on 20th August, 2009 at 6:15 pm  

    But who really gives a stuff about any of this?

    Is it that we are so worried about the daily diet that the ‘the ignorant’ are fed? I’m an occasional Sun and Daily Mail reader, but I only have the slightest recollection of the Alan Sugar being targeted by Muslims story.

    What my Sun reading mum does know is that the very nice muslim family who run the local Spar shop are starting Ramadan soon .. because they have a chat and talk to each other – (and their kids have done well at school and are going to university etc).

    She doesn’t know much about Islamic custom or beliefs, but knows that you don’t believe what you read in the papers over what you know from real life.

  11. Gridlock — on 20th August, 2009 at 8:19 pm  

    But they are – when Israel does something, as the self-proclaimed nation of the Jews, the Jews do something.

    I’d draw you a Venn but I feel I won’t win this one.

    They’re all fucking nutters anyway – “god says wear this hat”, “god says don’t eat pigs”, “god says this biscuit is actually my flesh” – deluded self-righteous bigots.

  12. douglas clark — on 20th August, 2009 at 8:41 pm  

    damon,

    I’m sorry, I completely disagree.

    The perpetual drip, drip of anti-Muslim stories – which weeks, months even, after the headlines, turn out to be untrue – does suggest that there is a concerted effort being made by some folk to make the agenda anti Muslim rather than anti terrorist.

    Sunny, 5cc and others can give you examples of these propoganda articles with ease.

    For instance, I recall Sunny doing ‘catch up’ on a story about Muslims wrecking the house of some British Army Officers. It turned out to be a complete load of bollocks.

    You are an intelligent guy. The reason people advertise ‘stuff’ is because it works, and it is exactly the same for propoganda. If you continually push an agenda at folk, some of it sticks. You kinda remember Alan Sugar was ‘threatened’ when he wasn’t at all or that Muslims are vandals when they weren’t. Both of these stories have been completely debunked. And that is the message of this sort of shit. Keep going long enough with it and – without rigorous challenge – then some of it becomes part of our common story.

    I hate being manipulated like that. I hate the media telling lies on front page spreads and apologising, if ever, on page 63.

    I should be able to assume that what I read in newspapers is at least an approximation to the truth. Else, every paper should have a Government Health Warning saying ‘Caveat Emptor’ as the actress may have said to the bishop.

  13. Rumbold — on 20th August, 2009 at 8:45 pm  

    Damon:

    What Douglas said. How many people will hear about what Glen Jenvey did afterwards, compared to this story?

  14. douglas clark — on 20th August, 2009 at 9:28 pm  

    Rumbold,

    Thanks for posting your original article. I had read what Richard Bartholemew had to say, yesterday, and I am still astonished. This ought to be worth a headline or two of it’s own :-)

    At least in it’s competitors perhaps?

  15. damon — on 20th August, 2009 at 10:26 pm  

    Yes Douglas Clark and Rumbold, it’s true what you say.
    That part of the tabloid press and wider media really are awful.

    If there’s a ”but” here, it’s not to defend those made up stories about soldiers houses being attacked or the fake Alan Sugar story, it’s feeling a bit at odds with that part of the left (or liberals) who have this ‘Tabloid Watch’ mentality and end up (from my experience with some of those people) to be almost as closed minded as the Richard Littlejohns and Jon Gaunts that they despise so much.

    I read these Leo McKinstry Daily Express type people and guys like Rod Liddle, and while I might be opposed to much of what they what they say, I go looking through their articles for some morsels of truth.
    ”Is there any point here?” is what I ask myself.
    Not from a liberal point of view, but from a coarser more common one.

    I suppose that’s where the rub lies.
    There are those people in the world who are not thoughtful liberals and would support the death penalty and harsh punishments for criminals that others would balk at.
    I just heard on the news tonight some Scottish minister saying that they had released the Lockerbie plane bomber on compassionate grounds, and meanwhile an American guy also on the programme was listening in from the US, and when it was his turn to speak he was incredulous at such wimpish attitudes.
    The Scotish guy had been talking about how this was a sign of the compassion of the Scottish people etc etc (which is all well and good), but you can see it from the other ‘less civilised’ point of view too.

    Not that you agree with that less civilised point of view, but recognise that there are other points of view than your own.

    Yes the anti-muslim agenda sucks, but people on this very website have equated the MCB and Islamists with the far right.
    Geert Wilders is an Islamophobe of the higest order, and all this Eurabia stuff is so overblown.

    But it’s no wonder that people on the Daily Mail right have arguments that they can kind of back up.
    I still havn’t heard anyone say what we should do about all those young men over in Calais who want to come to Britain.
    All we need to do is let them over on the ferry. Will that sort the problem?
    I’d say let them come over, but I understand a Sun editorial might have a different view (and it might have some justification).

  16. douglas clark — on 21st August, 2009 at 9:11 am  

    Damon,

    Despite what Hillary Clinton said, the reason the guy stopped appealing against his probably wrongful imprisonment, a case he was likely to win, was that he was dying. It is pretty obvious that a deal was struck, give up on your appeal and we’ll release you on compassionate grounds.

    http://www.newsobserver.com/1635/story/1647119.html

    Even Jim Squire, an American who led the campaign for justice for the dead, thought the conviction was a bit dodgy.

    And I, for one, don’t give a shit what the Yanks think.

  17. douglas clark — on 21st August, 2009 at 9:43 am  

    Damon,

    If I were ever naive enough to think that my old fashioned liberal ideas carried any weight whatsoever in this world, then a few months of commenting here ought to have disabused me of that notion :-)

    I think we’ve got to differentiate between genuine conspirators – think Guy Fawkes – and conspiracy propoganda – think Glen Jevney. The former is a fact, the latter is a fabulists construct.

    Whenever we are being manipulated by folk with an agenda, we ought to say so. I think Tim Ireland showed enormous courage in tackling this story, along with Richard Bartholomew, so it is nice when, ever so occasionally, the good guys win.

    Unfortunately, getting this story out on new media doesn’t mean that the pernicious nature of the original article loses it’s impact. How many people will follow up the headline and read any of this? Precious few. But it is probably the best that good people can do.

    I should get a T Shirt with ‘I believe in Snopes – probably’ written on it.

  18. Rumbold — on 21st August, 2009 at 12:56 pm  

    Damon:

    The problem is the way the tabloids exaggerate things. Often there might actually be a useful point to make about a story, but they will twist it so much that it becomes a general rant against Muslims, immigrunts and the PC brigade.

  19. damon — on 21st August, 2009 at 1:34 pm  

    It’s my opinion that it’s not only the right that goes in for this fabrication and exaggeration.

    Did anyone hear about the racist Philidelphia swimming club which turned away a group of young black kids and it was said that they were told that they didn’t want racial minorities there?
    http://www.google.co.uk/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1W1RNTN_en&q=racist+philly+swim+club&meta=lr%3D&aq=f&oq=

    It certainly got a lot of coverage didn’t it?
    Black blog sites, CNN, the New York Times and the Huffington Post. Wow, so it must be true then.
    What a bunch of racists.

    Having just read another article on this that took a different view, I am of the opinion that this story might have done a great wrong to the people who run that swimming club.

    I’ll reveal what it is later (I have to go out right now), but in the meantime have a read of some of those links and look at the video news coverage of that story.

  20. 5cc — on 21st August, 2009 at 1:34 pm  

    Damon:

    “I read these Leo McKinstry Daily Express type people and guys like Rod Liddle, and while I might be opposed to much of what they what they say, I go looking through their articles for some morsels of truth.”

    Wouldn’t you rather not have to wade through for morsels of truth because there was no regurgitated made up cobblers at all?

    Plus, what Rumbold said. For me, one of the most shocking things about this case is not necessarily that the Sun was so easily hoodwinked, but that the messages the story was based on proposed a polite letter writing campaign, or at the most extreme – picketing outside people’s houses. This got turned into ‘TERROR TARGET SUGAR’ on the front page.

  21. 5cc — on 21st August, 2009 at 1:39 pm  

    Damon:

    “Black blog sites, CNN, the New York Times and the Huffington Post. Wow, so it must be true then.”

    Are any of these best-selling UK newspapers?

  22. damon — on 21st August, 2009 at 6:07 pm  

    ”Wouldn’t you rather not have to wade through for morsels of truth because there was no regurgitated made up cobblers at all?”

    Yes. But its sometimes more nuanced than you might allow here.

    ”Are any of these best-selling UK newspapers?”

    No, but it could seem like you are trying to stifle; and stories like that do have an international significance
    Olympic gold medalist and African American swimmer Cullen Jones released a statement yesterday calling what happened to the 65 children “acts of blatant racism” that has “no place in America and should not be tolerated by anyone”

    Anyway, the analysis I thought was the best was this from John McWhorter.
    http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/mcwhorter/archive/2009/07/13/the-philly-swimming-club-you-know-what-that-s-all-about-or.aspx

    ”The word on the street, however, is that Duesler and the other club members just didn’t want black kids swimming in their pool. The club has been picketed, and the incident is now the Racism Story of the Week, purportedly showing that despite our black president, We’ve Come a Long Way, But We Still Have a Long Way To Go – i.e. that America is still all about racism. Scratch the surface – like having dark-skinned kiddies scantily clad in the water alongside whites – and it’s the same old story.”

  23. 5cc — on 21st August, 2009 at 8:33 pm  

    “Yes. But its sometimes more nuanced than you might allow here.”

    I don’t see what’s all that nuanced about a bloke making some stuff up and not only getting it publlished, but having it slapped on the front page of a paper with extra exaggerations turning polite letter writing campaigns and a (made up) call to picket people’s homes into people obliquely named being TERROR TARGETS.

    “No, but it could seem like you are trying to stifle; and stories like that do have an international significance”

    Trying to stifle what? So some of the media in the States jumped the gun with a story about racism. I don’t see how that makes any difference to newspapers in the UK exaggerating a fake story about terror targets.

  24. Rumbold — on 21st August, 2009 at 8:37 pm  

    I think what we can all agree on is the need for more accurate, and less hysterical reporting.

  25. damon — on 22nd August, 2009 at 9:19 am  

    Sorry if I came across as a bit techy there 5cc. I agree there is a great deal of difference in the way that these stories were started, and the motivation for them being built up into the kind of ”news” that can affect public opinion.

    But instead of dismissing the racist swimming club story as not being relevant here, I thought it was interesting to compare them and look for similarities in them.

    I can bet that once this story is being discussed like it has been, that the swim club is forever to be seen as ”the racist Philiadelphia swimming club that kicked out all the black kids, and told them that minorities weren’t welcome there.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efMP45R-Wis&feature=fvw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54j60JaBwo4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEeUis7PJvg&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WW3PBMhvtc&feature=fvw

    In the way that BS stories like this (and the one about extremists attacking the home of soldiers serving in Iraq) can just become absorbed into public consiousness and where even a retraction, or proof that the story was made up doesn’t do much good.

    I would say the racist swimming club story has now been digested and stored away in the public consciousness of a significent number of people in the US. Particularly with black people I’d guess.

    And if your wondering why I’m calling it a BS story, you really need to look at the John McWhorter link I did in my last post.

    ”So is this about how America hasn’t come any further than when, say, CORE and the NAACP had to protest to allow blacks to be able to swim in the pool at Cincinnati’s Coney Island pool in 1961? For all of the histrionic thrill of supposing so, no. Progress does happen.”

    However, when we hear from one parent of a Creative Step kid that “the pool attendants came and told the black children that they did not allow minorities in the club and needed the children to leave immediately,” frankly, with all due acknowledgment of the pain caused by what actually was said around those kids, I must, with regret, charge that it’s a lie.

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