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  • The new American crazies?


    by Sunny
    7th August, 2009 at 8:36 pm    

    And you thought the hard-left was crazy? Here is the latest ad by a right-wing American lobby group.

    And there’s plenty more examples of right-wing nutjobs in America trying to paint Obama as Hitler or Stalin. A lot of this is driven by racism, especially since it ties closely with the Republican “birther” movement who refuse to believe Obama was born in America. I wonder if the far-left in the UK will also buy into that racism by equating Obama with Hitler too.


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    1. pickles

      New blog post: The new American crazies? http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/5457




    1. jim jay — on 7th August, 2009 at 9:47 pm  

      The hard left in this country tend to be far more restrained. They compare him to Bush.

    2. Rumbold — on 7th August, 2009 at 9:55 pm  

      That’s not more restrained in their book jim jay.

    3. Neil — on 7th August, 2009 at 10:01 pm  

      Fun fact:

      Lyndon LaRouche, who apparently gave birth to this campaign, spent nearly 20 years in the SWP.

      Meanwhile, on Montgomerie’s ‘America In The World’ website, Samantha Power is still cited in the ‘varieties of anti-Americanism’ section. (http://bit.ly/mgRJQ)

      I would’ve ended this comment by saying something like “clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right”, but I think Gerry Raferty’s probably sick of his song being used as a political punchline by now..

    4. jim jay — on 7th August, 2009 at 10:04 pm  

      Rumbold: sad but true.

      Oh, people might be interested in this related image;

      http://imgur.com/ErvaP.jpg

    5. Amrit — on 7th August, 2009 at 10:09 pm  

      Good fucking Lord.

      Somebody needs to Photoshop ‘GODWIN’S LAW!’ in giant letters onto this, and then turn it into a viral.

    6. BenSix — on 7th August, 2009 at 10:35 pm  

      LaRouche? New? He’s been around since the dawn of thyme.

    7. soru — on 7th August, 2009 at 10:44 pm  

      laRouche is generally considered left wing, though he is so far off the map the question is pretty academic - he basically considers Torchwood to be a documentary.

    8. qidniz — on 7th August, 2009 at 10:55 pm  

      laRouche is generally considered left wing

      Shhhhhhhh!!

      You’re showing His Importance up, and that Just Ain’t Allowed, donchano?

    9. Vikrant — on 8th August, 2009 at 1:30 am  

      yeah… the ultra left… the new American crazies!

    10. damon — on 8th August, 2009 at 2:11 am  

      ”…spent nearly 20 years in the SWP”
      That’s the American SWP. Who publish The Militant nespaper.

      http://www.themilitant.com/index.shtml

      Not connected with UK SWP.

      I kind of like them, (even if they are a bit nutty).

    11. Chris Baldwin — on 8th August, 2009 at 9:16 am  

      “And you thought the hard-left was crazy?”

      Nope.

    12. Anas — on 8th August, 2009 at 1:02 pm  

      I’ve been watching talk radio host and conspiracy nutter Alex Jones froth at the mouth about Obama for weeks now, but this is just taking it to a whole other level:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGFw3hY20lM

    13. Anas — on 8th August, 2009 at 1:10 pm  

      Alex Jones actually brings up some valid points on occasion in amongst the bellowing preacher righteousness and the unbelievable paranoia but then he smothers it all in a extra huge layer of crazy.

    14. Don — on 8th August, 2009 at 5:31 pm  

      Seems like the most appropriate place to post this,

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKMRJK_YMAs

      …any disciplinary action would have been deemed as lowering the morale (of contractors)

    15. Soso — on 8th August, 2009 at 6:57 pm  

      These days everyone becomes Hitler or a ‘fascist’ at some point. It’s insane.

    16. Mostaque — on 9th August, 2009 at 1:00 pm  

      I believe the tone of the article is that how can anybody be so absurd as to compare Barack “Change we can believe in” Hussain Obama to Hitler or Stalin….well at least in America there are a number of reasons.

      In prudish S&M Britain where it is all smiles and cricket on the surface, it may seem absurd and extreme, but in America where they are a bit more “up front” such comparisons are not. Bush II was constantly compared to Hitler,

      http://www.phawker.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/adolf-hitler-bush.jpg

      as were Qaddafi, Saddam, Ahmedinejad and a few others…….this is certainly the case with the alternative media scene, and not the MSM in the USA.

      Auntie Ziona’s blog out of Golda’s Green constantly use to caricature Tzi Livni, the former Foreign minister, and PM of Israel as Hitler. http://azvas.blogspot.com/ certainly one wouldn’t describe the site as racist or extreme.

      Also there is the issue of powerlessness in America, where for many alternative writers, and a growing number of Americans, the uniformity of the two governing parties is a source of extreme worry, frustration……and yes powerlessness. By depicting Bush II and Obama as caricatures of Hitler thus fulfills their need to describe the policies of the previous and present presidents in stark terms, whether in the form of dark satire or in serious earnest which they truly believe.

      It would be unfair to call such comparisons as the work of “crazies”, but rather the work in the best tradition’s of satire………and radical thinking alternative writers in America would certainly be justified in depicting their leaders in such terms…..its a matter of opinion AND POLITICAL ACTIVISM. Though of course depicting a colored man as Hitler might seem in bad taste….with all the connotations.

    17. Mostaque — on 9th August, 2009 at 1:47 pm  

      Certainly Lyndon LaRoche is an “interesting” character whose articles I have read with an open mind, if only to gain an alternative perspectives on some pretty serious topics. I would not dismiss his thoughts and movement as that of “crazies” though I would certainly take issue with a whole range of his thoughts/ideas.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche

      As to Obama being Hitler, or being depicted as Hitler………Obama is an articulate highly cosmopolitan Harvard educated lawyer…….whilst Hitler was a down and out corporal in Munich picked up by certain groups and leveraged and manipulated into power as their fronts (bankers) ……..well in relation to Iraq Obama seems to be fudging, where he formerly promised to bring the troops back home and leave the Iraqis to run their affairs finally.

      In relation to Afghanistan he seems to be upping the ante with 21,000 more troops to make sure the Afghan Opium/Heroin is properly harvested and shipped via Kosovo/Alabania into Europe and North America……………whilst killing a lot of innocent Afghan civilians along this solemn process; wasting the American taxpayers money, and the lives of American servicemen.

      In the domestic arena there is no clear indication yet that the range of Gestapo laws introduced by Bush II will be rolled back under his term.

      In that “broad sense” whether as black humor, or in reality……where Obama is seen as yet another front for the bankers of Wall Street……he is thus depicted as another Hitler/Stalin.

      In the alternative blogesphere both Hitler/Stalin are believed to be puppets of the bankers……and so too is Obama.

    18. Mostaque — on 9th August, 2009 at 2:46 pm  

      How about posting the next one at 3.05 pm? Would that be suitable?

    19. Mostaque — on 9th August, 2009 at 3:00 pm  

      .
      .
      In the particular case of Lydon LaRouche, and his Executive Intelligence Review :

      http://www.larouchepub.com/

      He believes that there is a conspiracy against the USA, by the British, and specifically London, which has been going on since American independence; i.e His line of thinking is that the British never fully accepted American independence, and have been busy in a variety of ways subverting America. Overtly through military means since independence….1812-13 war……the British funding of the Confederates etc 1861-65, and covertly since then through the manipulation and finance of powerful business and social figures within American society……..Rockefeller, JP Morgan, George Soros,Rupert Murdock, Brzezinski, Kissinger, Clinton……..Al- Gore…….and so on, and that out of no where Barack Hussain Obama is another “British” representative in DC, who does not represent the best of American interests.

      http://www.larouchepub.com/lar/2009/webcasts/3612mar21_opener.html

      http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2009/3629obama_impeachable.html

      http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2009/3629expose_wennberg_hoax.html

    20. Mostaque — on 9th August, 2009 at 4:09 pm  

      In the particular case of Lydon LaRouche, and his Executive Intelligence Review :

      http://www.larouchepub.com/

      He believes that there is a conspiracy against the USA, by the British, and specifically London, which has been going on since American independence; i.e His line of thinking is that the British never fully accepted American independence, and have been busy in a variety of ways subverting America. Overtly through military means since independence….1812-13 war……the British funding of the Confederates etc 1861-65, and covertly since then through the manipulation and finance of powerful business and social figures within American society……..Rockefeller, JP Morgan, George Soros,Rupert Murdock, Brzezinski, Kissinger, Clinton……..Al- Gore…….and so on, and that out of no where Barack Hussain Obama is another “British” representative in DC, who does not represent the best of American interests.

      http://www.larouchepub.com/lar/2009/webcasts/3612mar21_opener.html

    21. Mostaque — on 9th August, 2009 at 4:11 pm  

      http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2009/3629obama_impeachable.html

      http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2009/3629expose_wennberg_hoax.html

    22. Don — on 9th August, 2009 at 4:15 pm  

      Barack Hussain Obama is another “British” representative in DC, …

      Dammit, chaps, they’ve rumbled us.

    23. Mostaque — on 9th August, 2009 at 4:34 pm  

      .
      .
      Shalom Don

    24. Don — on 9th August, 2009 at 4:37 pm  

      Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn Mostaque.

    25. Mostaque — on 12th August, 2009 at 8:34 am  

      The extensive narrative on Lydon LaRoache is not meant as an outright approval of his beliefs, which in many respects are “unique”, but is an attempt at an explanation as to why an octagenarian who is highly educated, with a following in the USA, holding often what may be termed left-wing views would resort to such stark portrayal of a serving American President, who is coloured, and from the Democratic Party.

      In doing so Don, we might get to understand American politics a little bit more, even from the perspective of the alternative scene.

      We must not be so basic as to interpret things literally.

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